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A declaration of defeat

Started by Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell, July 04, 2005, 07:40:57 AM

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Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy

#30
July 06, 2005, 07:01:15 AM
You know who's coming to get me?  My cats, my hubby and my son.  It's a toss up any night who will rob me of the most sleep.  Add to that my hormones and well, I was so exhausted and my son was out of town, I slept for 10 or 11 hours last night.

Iron Sulfide

#31
July 06, 2005, 07:14:01 AM
the juice did it.

or was it the jewes?
Ya' stupid Yank.

LMNO

#32
July 06, 2005, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjathe juice did it.

or was it the jewes?

Nice Jack the Ripper reference.



Oh, and I think someone once mentioned a 50-year social pendulum... WHich means we're still about 5 years from the turnaround.

Hoshiko

#33
July 06, 2005, 04:57:31 PM
Only, in terms of what most of us like to think of as a "system" (law, politics, social order,) it's more of a 7 year pendulum. Which means that right as you're getting hopeful, you're just about to get fucked again.

But I figure, if I'm not making any type of difference whatsoever, and I have no hope of ever doing so, at least I'm not going to go crazy sitting on my ass and worrying about "what if?"

As a wise woman once said, sometimes you have to see the pointlessness and still keep your purpose in mind. Because you have to get through the day somehow, right? Might as well do it playing whatever awful odds you were given and enjoy yourself that way. Hell, they can take whatever they want from you and own whatever parts of you they want, but there are some things they can't take. And it's those things that I think most of us librels/activists/rebel types put most stock in.  horab, I think that you were wrong when you said that there's nothing someone wouldn't do for money given the circumstances. I think most of us would do plenty, sure, but to think that there are no limits? It's been proven throughout history that people do have their personal limits, and some of them will defend those to the death if necessary. And those little shows of rebellion have had devastating effects on order before, if done at the right time and in the right place. It's not necessarily about winning, it's about knowing your limits and also knowing how far you would go to defend them, and living your life accordingly. I think if more people knew that, and DID that, things would be different right now. There's a certain freedom in that, and it's probably the only freedom that can't be taken away. Everything else is gravy, really.

Because if there's one thing about oppression, it's that it always tries to take too much. And that's when people fight back. I think it's easy to get jaded about the times we live in and think that all of this is something special and unchangeable, but the truth is that it's all been done before, and the only thing left for us to do is pick our roles and play them. Because if you've been paying attention for the past 10,000 years you know where all of this is going. The big boys might seem all-powerful and in control now, but they're fucked by history just the same. The real question is: Which team do you want to play with? How do you want to spend you little time here?

It's called a circle of influence. And right now I'm willing to bet that most of us here have a pretty small one. But so do the higher-ups, in the grand scheme of things. When you get right down to it, aren't we pretty much equal in the ways we interact and impact each other? You never know where that ripple effect is going to take something that you do. And your small influence doesn't have to stay that way, if you work hard enough and believe in what you're doing, however misguided that may be. It's not all black and white. Just because something doesn't have the social effect of an atom bomb doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to the big picture. Hell, look at how many stupid, small destructive decisions are impacting our lives daily. There must be a flip side to that, correct?

Besides, some of the most beautiful things out there are pointless.
Making people sorry they asked since 1983.

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She got the speakers in the trunk
With the bass on crunk.

Hoshiko

#34
July 06, 2005, 04:59:08 PM
And Chaplin, I'm sorry, but you can't really claim defeat until you're dead. You have to earn it, first.
Making people sorry they asked since 1983.

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She got the speakers in the trunk
With the bass on crunk.

Horab Fibslager

#35
July 06, 2005, 05:32:19 PM
you will not defeat em again hoshi! lol.


of course keep in mind the views expressed in this thread are nto necessarily the ones i i always or msot of th etiem espouse. i was merely excercising the ol dynamic thought.
Hell is other people.

Hoshiko

#36
July 06, 2005, 05:44:38 PM
I figured as much, because it's fun to play devil's advocate :wink:
Making people sorry they asked since 1983.

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With the bass on crunk.

Bob the Mediocre

#37
July 07, 2005, 02:42:02 AM
My duct tape hat will protect me from the Conspiracy!


(Once I make it that is)
"we are building a religion
we are making a brand
we're the only ones to turn to when your castles turn to sand
take a bite of this apple
mister corporate events
take a walk through the jungle
of cardboard shanties and tents
some people drink pepsi
some people drink coke
the wacky morning dj says democracy's a joke
he says now do you believe in the one big song
he is now accepting callers who would like to sing along"

I AM A COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKING IDIOT!

Iron Sulfide

#38
July 07, 2005, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjathe juice did it.

or was it the jewes?

Nice Jack the Ripper reference.



Oh, and I think someone once mentioned a 50-year social pendulum... WHich means we're still about 5 years from the turnaround.

danke...was wondering is anyone would get that...

ties the jews and masons right together, don't it?

(not to mention crowley and his masonic view on messianic judaism...)

i'd have to agree with hoshi, though, on the 'more like 7 years' thing...

2012...

that's all i'm sayin (because those who don't know will scoff, and those
who know may be watching and lynch my arse for exposition this soon)
Ya' stupid Yank.

The Good Reverend Roger

#39
July 08, 2005, 03:33:20 AM
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenja
Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjathe juice did it.

or was it the jewes?

Nice Jack the Ripper reference.



Oh, and I think someone once mentioned a 50-year social pendulum... WHich means we're still about 5 years from the turnaround.

danke...was wondering is anyone would get that...

ties the jews and masons right together, don't it?

(not to mention crowley and his masonic view on messianic judaism...)

i'd have to agree with hoshi, though, on the 'more like 7 years' thing...

2012...

that's all i'm sayin (because those who don't know will scoff, and those
who know may be watching and lynch my arse for exposition this soon)


JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

COMING TO GETCHA!
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#40
July 08, 2005, 08:38:02 AM
That's just too mean.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#41
July 08, 2005, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCThat's just too mean.

Well, I have very little patience with conspiracy theories about the Jews.

They've been kicked around enough, don't you think?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Fox News

#42
July 08, 2005, 03:57:39 PM
The Good Reverend Roger Supports the Israeli Zionist movement!  Anonymous Sources quote him as saying "That wall... Pretty good idea."

Morew after this Michael Jackson update!
We're better than CNN because we're RIGHT!

Iron Sulfide

#43
July 09, 2005, 05:47:52 AM
Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjathe juice did it.

or was it the jewes?

Nice Jack the Ripper reference.



Oh, and I think someone once mentioned a 50-year social pendulum... WHich means we're still about 5 years from the turnaround.

do you have any more info on the 50-year social pendulum thing?
Ya' stupid Yank.
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