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A little something I wrote while on the psychedelics

Started by Charlemagne, August 27, 2005, 12:47:32 PM

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LMNO

Quote from: East Coast Hustledrugs are shit.

druggies are shit.

if you need drugs to be creative, the guess what?

you're NOT fucking creative, you're a drugged out hippie fucktard.

that is all.

8)

He said, as he sparked up another bowl, and finished off the last of his beer.





I'm only half-teasing, because I've done some of my best initial songwiting after finishing the second bottle of red wine.

A lot of it was crap, however.  I've also done some geat songwiting sober.  Whatever.  I'm in a bad mood today.  Make some room for me on TWSotT Crew's bench, huh?

East Coast Hustle

actually, I'm done with sparking the bowls (aside from the very occasional special occasion). my crippling scotch addiction remains, but as it's all that keeps me from killing every living motherfucker I come in contact with, I probably shouldn't quit just yet.

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

LMNO

Quote from: gnimbleyDidn't you have Monday in the pool, LMNO?

Oh, SNAP!

gnimbley

Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: gnimbleyDidn't you have Monday in the pool, LMNO?

Oh, SNAP!

What?

LMNO


gnimbley

Sorry. I was referring to that fact there is no post from which you
quoted.

LMNO


HAXXX0R!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

::cough::

:oops:

Charlemagne

When did I say I did the drugs to be creative? Well, if I did, I lied. I am creative enough while low, thank you.
I take the drugs to other reasons, however, with insight that listing those reasons would cause a lot of people to call me hippie and flame me, I decided no to post them.
Rightfully claiming the title Emperor of Scandinavia since 2003

deet

One cannot see a light, when his eyes are closed.
One cannot distinguish a lighthouse from a fire, when his vision is not clear.
All walls have two sides.

Iron Sulfide

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenja
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger0/10, for bringing your acid-crazed jabberings to our attention.

TGRR,
Knows that drugs don't make you more artistic, they just make you fucked up.

the question: when you did drugs, were you trying to get fucked up, or
trying to do something entirely different?

I did both, in my mis-spent youth.

Fact is, "artwork" that is seen as profound when done under hallucinagenics invariably turns to tripe when the drugs wear off.

Read some William Burroughs, if you don't trust me.  Utter garbage.

sounds like someone is a failed artist, taking it out on drugs.

i never said anything about creativity either.

the fact of the matter is:
certain drugs resemble certain chemicals naturally produced in your brain,
while other drugs are 'latent', they don't simulate the chemical (be it
endorphines, or adenal, etc), they just block off re-uptake receptors.

now, most people play with the former, a smaller few play with the latter.
a lot of people, for example, won't 'feel' a vicodin. that's because in
addition to the hydrocodine in it, it has a 'latent' porperty that will increase
the sensation fo dopamine (pain killing enzyme) if you brain starts producing
it for pain in your body.

moving on...

certain drugs, then, correspond to certain neuro-receptors.
the five main types of receptors are:

acetylcholine
glutamate
norepinephrine
dopamine
serotonin

drugs are drugs. right? wrong.

one drug may stimulate certain areas of your brain, particularly, only
certain neuroreceptors, another drug may stimulate (be an agonist) a
different receptor, while counter acting the other drug (being an antagonist.)
sometimes this agonist antagonist clash is experienced as "static" or
"confusion", disorientation, dizzyness...lots of thigns can happen, depending
on exactly what interactions are going on, chemically.
Example: you smoke a bowl of Mary Juana, say...45 minutes-1 hour later,
when you're starting to "come down" (the serotonin and dopamine agonist
THC is diminishing in appearance in your brain), you light up a cigarette.
after finishing the cigarette, you get a little dizzy-mildly euphoric. the
dizziness turns to mild diorientation and the mild euphoria turns to mild
dysphoria.

this is because nicotine, a pseudo-acetylcholine, is an antagonist to serotonin
and counteracts. (nut shell- nicotine= stimulant: THC = sedative: Nic+THC=Jumbled.)

othertimes, drugs can seem to "synergize" quite well. (i still don't feel
comfortable enough with that word to not put it in the quotes of irony.)
it's largely determined by: what chemicals are intereacting, the quantities
consumed, the timeperiod over which it/they were consumed, and your
personal tolerance/body chemistry.

the overall point:

drugs don't do shit but mess with your brain. this can be good, this
can be bad. it's up to you.

it's what you put in your body, then what direction you want to take it,
then the amount you use, then the other interactants, then...then...
that's why any even half intelligent druggie will tell you "don't fuck around
with something you kow absolutely shit about."

RESEARCH BEFORE HAND

i'm sure you probably function better off any kind of drugs.

oh, wait. i bet you drink something with caffeine in it. you probably smoke
tobacco, too (going off numbers here..) and drink booze of some sort.

no one is drug free.

on that note, for amusement purpses:
http://www.whale.to/b/sp/3.html
Ya' stupid Yank.

Charlemagne

For the record, while writing that "poem" I had eaten 12 seeds of Hawaiian Baby woodrose. If you dont know what that is, check out wikipedia or erowid.
Rightfully claiming the title Emperor of Scandinavia since 2003

East Coast Hustle

I seem to have been misinterpreted.

I didn't say I was against recreational drug use, I was saying that drugs are shit, and so are druggies. sparking up once in a while or taking the occasional handful of mushrooms or the odd line of blow here and there does not make one a druggie. when you get to a place where you feel that you NEED the drugs to function/create/socialize/etc. properly, then you are a druggie, and your fuckstock is completely assprone.

drugs can be an occasionally entertaining escape from a harsh reality, but you're fucked if you use them to REPLACE reality.

and since I KNOW someone will pop up with the tired old line about "pot and shrooms aren't drugs, man, they grow in the ground, man, they're natural", I refer you to my sig.

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

DJRubberducky

Quote from: East Coast Hustleand since I KNOW someone will pop up with the tired old line about "pot and shrooms aren't drugs, man, they grow in the ground, man, they're natural", I refer you to my sig.
I hate that argument.  Horse shit is 100% natural too; doesn't mean it's good for you to ingest it.
- DJRubberducky
Quote from: LMNODJ's post is sort of like those pills you drop into a glass of water, and they expand into a dinosaur, or something.

Black sheep are still sheep.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: East Coast Hustledrugs are shit.

druggies are shit.

if you need drugs to be creative, the guess what?

you're NOT fucking creative, you're a drugged out hippie fucktard.

that is all.

8)

Motorcycle.

TGRR,
No longer uses drugs unless the court orders it.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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