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Notes from a Small Island Vol 3a: Neo-liberalism

Started by Cain, October 02, 2005, 05:40:09 PM

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#15
October 04, 2005, 06:57:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCNeo-liberal = Neo-Con = Fascist = Jeebus-worshipping

How are neocons ANY kind of liberal?

You looked up the definition of liberal recently?

Actually, they are signed up to the theory of neoliberalism.  The fact what the theory promotes is neither is not the point.

The Good Reverend Roger

#16
October 04, 2005, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Cain
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCNeo-liberal = Neo-Con = Fascist = Jeebus-worshipping

How are neocons ANY kind of liberal?

You looked up the definition of liberal recently?

Actually, they are signed up to the theory of neoliberalism.  The fact what the theory promotes is neither is not the point.

Then what the fuck IS the point, man?  I haven't got all day!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#17
October 04, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCNeo-liberal = Neo-Con = Fascist = Jeebus-worshipping

How are neocons ANY kind of liberal?

You looked up the definition of liberal recently?

Yeah, I did. The definition said "rare species of spineless hominid on Earth."

Neo-liberalism and Neo-cons say "different" things but their economic policies and social crap ends up being the same old crap. Remember, neo-liberals think that the banks owning our lives is a GOOD thing.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#18
October 04, 2005, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Yeah, I did. The definition said "rare species of spineless hominid on Earth."


No, that's the entry for democrats.  Try again.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#19
October 04, 2005, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Cain
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCNeo-liberal = Neo-Con = Fascist = Jeebus-worshipping

How are neocons ANY kind of liberal?

You looked up the definition of liberal recently?

Actually, they are signed up to the theory of neoliberalism.  The fact what the theory promotes is neither is not the point.

Then what the fuck IS the point, man?  I haven't got all day!

The point is to be a pain in the arse.  Its one of the reasons the left and right seem so similar nowadays, they all operate under the neoliberal thinking.  Its why, when we voted Labour here, we ended up with Thatcher MKII

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#20
October 04, 2005, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC

Yeah, I did. The definition said "rare species of spineless hominid on Earth."


No, that's the entry for democrats.  Try again.

Right you are there. Must not read while drinking. Dangerous.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#21
October 04, 2005, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: Cain

The point is to be a pain in the arse.  Its one of the reasons the left and right seem so similar nowadays, they all operate under the neoliberal thinking.  Its why, when we voted Labour here, we ended up with Thatcher MKII

So, define this "neoliberal" thingie you are talking about...because all *I* see is plain old fascism, and we already have a word for that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#22
October 04, 2005, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Cain

The point is to be a pain in the arse.  Its one of the reasons the left and right seem so similar nowadays, they all operate under the neoliberal thinking.  Its why, when we voted Labour here, we ended up with Thatcher MKII

So, define this "neoliberal" thingie you are talking about...because all *I* see is plain old fascism, and we already have a word for that.

Neoliberalism; set of beliefs that the Free Market and Western Style democracy are the best for everyone, and that if we give it to everyone right now, war will stop and everyone will be happy and the trains may even run on time.

The Good Reverend Roger

#23
October 04, 2005, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: Cain
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Cain

The point is to be a pain in the arse.  Its one of the reasons the left and right seem so similar nowadays, they all operate under the neoliberal thinking.  Its why, when we voted Labour here, we ended up with Thatcher MKII

So, define this "neoliberal" thingie you are talking about...because all *I* see is plain old fascism, and we already have a word for that.

Neoliberalism; set of beliefs that the Free Market and Western Style democracy are the best for everyone, and that if we give it to everyone right now, war will stop and everyone will be happy and the trains may even run on time.

Fascism; set of beliefs that the the fascists ways are the best for everyone, and that if we give it to everyone right now, war will stop and everyone will be happy and the trains may even run on time (but nobody wants to know where they go).

See?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#24
October 04, 2005, 07:32:40 PM
Yeah, but most people don think like that.  And some people actually believe its truly the best way for the world.  Unfortunately, they run the banks, the political parties and alot of the NGOs.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#25
October 04, 2005, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Fascism; set of beliefs that the the fascists ways are the best for everyone, and that if we give it to everyone right now, war will stop and everyone will be happy and the trains may even run on time (but nobody wants to know where they go).

See?

That's why I said "Neo-liberal = Neo-Con = Fascist = Jeebus-worshipping"
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#26
October 04, 2005, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: CainYeah, but most people don think like that.  And some people actually believe its truly the best way for the world.  Unfortunately, they run the banks, the political parties and alot of the NGOs.

That doesn't mean they aren't fascist.  They just dressed it up with a new name and image, and sold us the same old product.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Irreverend Hugh, KSC

#27
October 04, 2005, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: CainYeah, but most people don think like that.  And some people actually believe its truly the best way for the world.  Unfortunately, they run the banks, the political parties and alot of the NGOs.

That doesn't mean they aren't fascist.  They just dressed it up with a new name and image, and sold us the same old product.

But it's a shinier more marketable product.
"Time for the tin-foil hats, girls and boys!"

The Good Reverend Roger

#28
October 04, 2005, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: CainYeah, but most people don think like that.  And some people actually believe its truly the best way for the world.  Unfortunately, they run the banks, the political parties and alot of the NGOs.

That doesn't mean they aren't fascist.  They just dressed it up with a new name and image, and sold us the same old product.

But it's a shinier more marketable product.

Troof.  There's a lot to be said for packaging.

But it's still the same old rotten bullshit, once the colorful wrapping is torn off.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#29
October 04, 2005, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
But it's still the same old rotten bullshit, once the colorful wrapping is torn off.

Isn;t Everything?
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