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Dignity in Death.

Started by Zurtok Khan, March 03, 2006, 07:26:23 AM

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Zurtok Khan

March 03, 2006, 07:26:23 AM
You have been fooled.  You are a fool.  You fool other people.  Other people fool you.  The television lies.  You lie.  Other people lie.  You eat shit out of a can put in there by a machine that also lies.  Yes, machines lie.  They do it better then people, because you,Äôve been trained to think they do not lie.  Yes, that is botulism in your string beans.  You,Äôre now dead.  Yes, that is botulism in your forehead, it,Äôll make you look better, I swear.

We are obsessed with superiority.  We are intrigued by mystery.  We are dependant upon machines.  And, despite everything else we die anyway.  But, we want to look good doing it.  

Death is a nasty, messy business.  There is little dignity in death.  You can try to put it there, but shit still stinks, and corpses still rot.  Get over it.

Taxidermists never work on humans.  Though, once I kissed a dead dear on the lips, while dressed as a preacher who was a member of the KKK.  It,Äôs all rather involved.  But, the dear still looked rather nice.  I,Äôm sure grandma would look great mounted on the wall, don,Äôt you?

There are things in life that will never be pretty.  No matter how much we wish to run from biological fact, we can never outrun the very thing providing us with our locomotion.  Society today runs from the facts, rather then facing them.

If you can,Äôt run, hide.  If you can,Äôt hide, then the Gestapo will be happy to help you comply with regulation.  

If you do not fight the Jihad, the quiet things will creep up on you and kill you slowly.  Better to fight them out in the open and let them kill you like a man.  At least then we,Äôll have some respect for you.

But, there is no dignity in death.  Though, the way you live, there is no dignity in life either.
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

Cain

#1
March 03, 2006, 07:44:38 AM
I disagree, there is dignity in death.  The only shame, as Musashi says, is in dying a stupid and meaningless death.  I would rather go down knowing I had fought with every trick I know, for a cause which was true and right, then live on my knees as a craven slave, robbed even of hope.

Death is virtually never pretty, I can attest first hand.  But to die with dignity is possible, because dignity is in the eye of the one dying.  Few people want to die anymore.  But the way of Death can be another form of liberation, as all paths lead to a death of some kind.

AFK

#2
March 04, 2006, 04:51:11 PM
I also disagree.  Death is the welcome slumber from a long life spent on this mortal and vicious plane.  For some it comes sooner than others.  Call it God's will or the will of the universe it will happen to everyone.  And not everyone is going to die in a blaze of glory.  We simply don't live in those times anymore.  Society makes us fear death which is ridiculous because it is the one thing we all know for certain is going to happen to us.  But we can do the best we can to maximize the brief blink of time we share in this mortal world so that when we finally do close our eyes for the final time, it will be well deserved and quite dignified.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LHX

#3
March 04, 2006, 04:53:30 PM
it may be possible that death is the ONLY place you can find dignity
neat hell

AFK

#4
March 04, 2006, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: LHXit may be possible that death is the ONLY place you can find dignity

I was actually attending a funeral yesterday.  My uncle passed away on Wednesday and while it was unexpected and very tragic I couldn't help but to look at him lying there and think about how peaceful he looked.  Of course if he had the choice I'm sure he'd much rather be alive but there was a man who's done alot in his life and raised a wonderful family and has left quite a legacy.  He didn't move mountains, he didn't win a Nobel prize but he was a good man.  To me, he looked very dignified in death.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#5
March 04, 2006, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: LHXit may be possible that death is the ONLY place you can find dignity

Except for the whole bowels releasing thing.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Zurtok Khan

#6
March 04, 2006, 11:50:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: LHXit may be possible that death is the ONLY place you can find dignity

Except for the whole bowels releasing thing.

This is the correct hearst.
Resistance is Fertile.

Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more.
-Mark Twain

I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him.
-Mark Twain

East Coast Hustle

#7
March 05, 2006, 12:14:35 AM
did you mean "hearse"?

or did you really mean ?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Shibboleet The Annihilator

#8
March 05, 2006, 01:09:23 AM
I hearby award Zurtok with "teh awesum spellur awarrd!"

Edit:

The Good Reverend Roger

#9
March 05, 2006, 06:51:18 AM
Quote from: fnordiscordiaI hearby award Zurtok with "teh awesum spellur awarrd!"

Careful.  He's a mod.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

#10
March 05, 2006, 08:35:22 PM
I know but we must

FIGHT THE POWER

at any and all costs.

The Good Reverend Roger

#11
March 05, 2006, 08:41:35 PM
Quote from: fnordiscordiaI know but we must

FIGHT THE POWER

at any and all costs.

Indeed.  Mister Power.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

#12
March 05, 2006, 08:43:41 PM
Thou doth protest too much, Mr. Mod.

The Good Reverend Roger

#13
March 05, 2006, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: fnordiscordiaThou doth protest too much, Mr. Mod.

Shut it, tyrant-boi!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

#14
March 05, 2006, 08:44:31 PM
STOP OPPRESSING ME!
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