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« Reply #90 on: April 11, 2004, 07:54:56 am »
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chaos magick is frustrating.

i've tried sigilization, that doesn't work. i've tried the exercises from Liber MMMbut i can't do anything from that, such as not thinking, object concentration, magical trances, etc.

i've read ALL of the websites, but that just makes me an "armchair wizard", since i can't actually DO anything.


 :?  :(  :?  :(  :?  :cry:  :?  :o  :cry:  :roll:


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« Reply #91 on: April 13, 2004, 02:20:48 am »
It's all in how you look at things, I think. If you're reading up on someone else's opinions and that doesn't quite jive with what you think, then, y'know, fuck 'em and find your own way. My view on what most would call magick is that it's really just redirection of psychic energy and is seen as occult because science hasn't found a way to measure it yet. But then, I read a lot of Carl Jung too.

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« Reply #92 on: April 13, 2004, 02:25:26 am »
Magic isn't real.
Therefore it makes the world go faster.
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« Reply #93 on: April 24, 2004, 10:00:06 pm »
my mind is too rational.

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« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2004, 02:46:53 am »
i found this thread on occultforums.com =   http://www.occultforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=12553


the guy pretty much sums up my problem with chaos magick. my mind is too rational, and I just can't believe that it will work. any advice?

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« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2004, 02:59:16 am »
Yes, I suggest that you buy a book called "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron.
Despite the name, this is much more than a book on how to be an artist.  
It teaches one how to be creative and playful again.
It's full of exercises to help you get in touch with the non-rational side of your brain.
We each have literally two sides to our brains and some people live more in the creative side,
while others are more comfortable in the rational side.
The ideal state is to move freely back and forth as it suits one's
best interests at the moment.  

I've read this book and followed the exercises in it (sort of) three or four times now.
Each time I do it, my life changes radically and so do my thought processes.
It really helped me get in touch with the magical side of my nature.
Cuz I used to be strictly rational and unable to believe.

PS: I just realized that I've never made it all the way through the entire
 book because all the changes it evokes sort of side track me.
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you can't believe your ears
you can't believe your friends
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« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2004, 03:14:35 am »
i'll buy the book, thanks bella.

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« Reply #97 on: April 25, 2004, 03:30:16 am »
You're welcome.  8)
Let me know what you think of it, k?
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« Reply #98 on: April 25, 2004, 04:51:28 am »
It doesn't work, plain and simple. It's a farse, made up by people who play to much D&D and can't tell the diffrence between illusion and reality.

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« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2004, 02:55:18 pm »
Well, it DOES work, but never the way you want it to. If you're good, it works the way you need it.

BTW, Bella, nice new avatar. Haven't been to PD for far too long.
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« Reply #100 on: April 25, 2004, 03:37:54 pm »
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Well, it DOES work, but never the way you want it to. If you're good, it works the way you need it.

BTW, Bella, nice new avatar. Haven't been to PD for far too long.

Thanks, Caramac. Where ya been?

And you're right about the magic (hopefully) working the way you need it to, as opposed to how you wanted it to work.
I like that statement so much that I just stole it.  :twisted:
just like in a dream
you'll open your mouth to scream
and you won't make a sound

you can't believe your eyes
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you can't believe your friends
you can't believe you're here

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« Reply #101 on: April 25, 2004, 04:09:17 pm »
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Well, it DOES work, but never the way you want it to. If you're good, it works the way you need it.

BTW, Bella, nice new avatar. Haven't been to PD for far too long.

Thanks, Caramac. Where ya been?

And you're right about the magic (hopefully) working the way you need it to, as opposed to how you wanted it to work.
I like that statement so much that I just stole it.  :twisted:


Oh, I don't believe in intellectual property, anyway. I don't even really believe in physical property.

Well, I'm mostly at my gf's place, and she hasn't got DSL or cable...
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« Reply #102 on: April 25, 2004, 10:17:20 pm »
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Well, it DOES work, but never the way you want it to. If you're good, it works the way you need it.

BTW, Bella, nice new avatar. Haven't been to PD for far too long.


uh, wrong.

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« Reply #103 on: April 25, 2004, 11:54:33 pm »
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It doesn't work, plain and simple. It's a farse, made up by people who play to much D&D and can't tell the diffrence between illusion and reality.


Actuall, until I moved, I played like a fiend.

What it actually led me to believe is that ALL superstition (any non-provable belief) is hogwash.
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« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2004, 12:55:19 am »
Chaos Magic, or anything of the sort (curses, hexes, etc...) isn't real, you all need to pull your heads out of your rectal regions, step out of your fantasy worlds, and accept it.