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A stripper. I hope this hasn't been posted already.

A reminder that language and expression is already one step removed from your true identity (your mind) and that adding stupid names and rituals to get an effect is adding another redundant layer.

When I want to feel something I narrate it "and so I felt a melancholy" or "and so my mind entered a state of intense focus and concentration".
If you need to call that magic or attach redundant ritualistic fluff to that, I pity you.

I'm pretty sure they've produced technology using quantum stuff but I just can't make the connection how saying "how the fuck should I know?" helps them to arrive at such goals.

because the uncertainty principle is only a part of QM, and there are other things that have direct physical applications.

So are you saying Schroedinger and Heisenberg were anti-QM people too? Only one I head about was Enistein with the "god doesn't play dice" thing.

Eh, while Einstein did do some amazing work on relativity that doesn't obay classical physics, he never did much on the quantum scale. Funnily schroedinger didn't take relativity into account with the Schrodinger wave equation, it was Dirac who did that (his equations are HORRIBLE to follow), but schrodingers wave eqn can be used to solve certain characteristics of the hydrogen atom (these are sometimes referred to as the crowning jewel of physics). Saying Schrodinger was anti QM is like saying a carpenter is anti whatever he crafts.

So if QM is all fuzzy and full of shit like "we'll never know" how the fuck is it useful for anything?

pls note: I'm not disputing it's use (apparently it is) I just need an explanation as to how. 

Well there are now spectrometers that are highly accurate due to their ability to take into account quantum tunneling. That and in meso scale semiconductors. It has a huge range of applications, just no magical ones.

its merely cause and effect.

Exactly that! Anything else is just overly worded and confusing for the sake of confusing

NO IT MUST HAVE CANDLES AND CHANTING AND MAGIC IN IT OR IT CHALLENGES MY WORDVIEW

it doesn't even have a precise location until a measurement event, and it likewise doesn't have a precise momentum until a measurement event.

I've heard/read that before, but how was such a thing found out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem

People used to be split among three camps:
a) Particles don't have a position before they're measured (which is counterintuitive)
b) They do, we just don't know where that position is (which means QP is incomplete, since it can't tell us where)
c) Asking what the state of something is before it was measured is moronic, since it's completely untestable and therefore unscientific - by definition you can't know what an unmeasured quantity is.

Then Mr. Bell came along and showed that it made a testable difference whether a) or b) was correct, which immediately threw out c).  Later, the experiment he proposed gave really good evidence for a).

Thats because particles (like photons) don't collapse to particle vectors unless they are interacting with another particle. Otherwise they are more like a probability cloud, diffuse over an area. The very act of measurement causes the collapse.

Am I close?

The act of measurement doesn't cause the collapse, it creates an uncertainty in Your data as you can only know it to arbitrary accuracy. Additionally its more because position and momentum are tied together that you cannot know both to exact accuracy, as you increase the accuracy of knowing one, the other becomes harder to pinpoint, however you can get the expectation value which is its overall probability for position/momentum for an area.

We are psycho-somatic beings... the mind can affect the body functions, just as the body can affect the minds function...

And although one shouldnt rely on psychological will to cure cancer, it sure can help in a matter of degree.

In other words, if you psychically give up on life, it WILL affect your immune system; the percentage that this affects the condition, do, is very variable, and i think, unmeasurable in a quantitative scale.

The effect of stress on the immune system is measurable on a quantitative scale.  "Giving up on life" is a little trickier, however.

OK so we go from "voodoo can kill you"
to "voodoo can give you cancer"

If you believe a voodoo curse can hurt you, it will.

Gullibility/Suggestion - not the voodoo itself, but the response that evokes from you

If I had some asshole waving chicken bones and cats menstruation at me  my stress levels would rise ->More susceptible to cancer.
Its just that the practitioners cause (magic) is not the actual cause, its the actual physical significance of the act.
For instance leaving a dagger on someones pillow to give them bad dreams, same deal, no magic. The actual Physical significance of what happened would effect my mental state and my nerves. I don't think gullibility has anything to do with this, its merely cause and effect.

We are psycho-somatic beings... the mind can affect the body functions, just as the body can affect the minds function...

And although one shouldnt rely on psychological will to cure cancer, it sure can help in a matter of degree.

In other words, if you psychically give up on life, it WILL affect your immune system; the percentage that this affects the condition, do, is very variable, and i think, unmeasurable in a quantitative scale.

The effect of stress on the immune system is measurable on a quantitative scale.  "Giving up on life" is a little trickier, however.

OK so we go from "voodoo can kill you"
to "voodoo can give you cancer"

Your Heart Has Just Stopped.

I blame you for this shit.

Least the other one is about Quantum

I'm not reading that, every time I see someone misunderstanding QM or warping to their own needs I feel horrible dismay.

why do you need to trick yourself if you already know it's a trick?

how is that even possible without some serious cognitive dissonance?

Need?  So that I can achieve magical results.

you dont.

Seems like I do to me.  Which is the important part for me.

Delude yourself with as many simulacra as you want. What you are doing isn't magic and the importance you are placing on it is on the part that doesn't do anything.
The effect has different roots and just because you say "well I don't want to think about it" makes it the exact same as religious delusion.

why do you need to trick yourself if you already know it's a trick?

how is that even possible without some serious cognitive dissonance?

Need?  So that I can achieve magical results.

you dont.

It usually is tl;dr, at least in this form and on a screen but I feel that these things I write here can't really be called anything but rants and I never really know what kind of response they will provoke, if any, for these are just chunks of life and words I need to get out. These are streams of consciousness not flicked upon but just words and thoughts cluttering my brain and writing this shit down is comparable to me to take a dump, they bring a sensation of physical catharsis, just like emptying your bowels do, I'm just glad someone finds something useful in here.

You shit diamonds, and are one of the few writers actually able to conjure up an emotional response in me, thank you for emptying your bowels here.

I can't even accomplish a one man utopia, increasing the scale at all makes it seem impractical to me.