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Title: Western RPG system?
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 07, 2011, 10:34:58 AM
One of my GMs is talking about getting a group together to do a western game, and I was wondering if anybody knew a system thats either already appropriate for that, or could be adapted with minimal issues.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Phox on January 07, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Deadlands.1890's Cthulhu. GURPS.There maybe be some d20 Modern stuff that works too, but not sure.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Cramulus on January 07, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
assuming you guys are hip to d20 engine, you can find a lot of stuff by googling up "d20 old west"

in googling around myself, I found this game which sounded interesting. It's a homebrew RPG so you'd have to make the playing cards yourself, etc. http://www.1km1kt.net/rpg/dueling-papers-san-francisco-edition

Dueling Papers
QuoteIn the 1860s San Francisco is emerging from an economic depression with the discovery of the Comstock silver lode in western Nevada. This boom will be richer and longer-lived than the California Gold Rush and began to make a real city out of San Francisco, and millionaires out of some of its citizens. The boom only fuels the justly deserved reputation for vice of every sort.

In the midst of this stand the Editors and their Newspapers; men of the highest ideals and passions who seek to make their influence felt throughout this growing city. None willing to back down, none willing to quite in this struggle of ideas leaving only one form of final arbitration: the Duel.


the rules look relatively simple

most of the game is about coming up with the weird stories your newspaper prints

and then dueling each other


sounds like a cool concept for a game
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Richter on January 07, 2011, 03:59:21 PM
If you're looking for fantasy / steampunk Old West, there is Deadlands (out of print I think).  Had a few funny mechanics, such as using playing cards in place of dice, but the setting was pretty interesting.

There's likely a GURPS module for it, or at least relevant equipment and mechanics.  If you have to write you own content, I recomend the IRL antics of Jim Bowie, Wyatt Earp, and the Donner Party.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 07, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Ill take a look at Deadlands.  GURPS isn't really appropriate for anything.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Delta Green.

It's like the X-Files meets the Cthulhu Mythos.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Richter on January 07, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 07, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Ill take a look at Deadlands.  GURPS isn't really appropriate for anything.

Bullshit.

GURPS Black Ops and Discworld.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Phox on January 07, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Delta Green.

It's like the X-Files meets the Cthulhu Mythos.

Only everyone's a crazy Viet Nam veteran in stead of a crazy FBI agent.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 07, 2011, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: Richter on January 07, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 07, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Ill take a look at Deadlands.  GURPS isn't really appropriate for anything.

Bullshit.

GURPS Black Ops and Discworld.

The core of the GURPS system is the problem, and settings books can't fix that.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Richter on January 07, 2011, 08:40:11 PM
Granted, I'd play another system given a choice. 

For what it is though, the system has never been cause for me to say "No" to a game.  It's not perfect, but I have complaints about every RPG system I've run across.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2011, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 07, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Deadlands.1890's Cthulhu. GURPS.There maybe be some d20 Modern stuff that works too, but not sure.

Aces & Eights, from Kenzer and Company.

It's complex as hell, but rewarding.  I mean, when you have a shootout in a bar, where DO all the stray rounds go?

TGRR,
Has killed the piano player, 2 hookers, the old prospector, and the bartender.  Scatterguns indoors.  Do Never.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Phox on January 07, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2011, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 07, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Deadlands.1890's Cthulhu. GURPS.There maybe be some d20 Modern stuff that works too, but not sure.

Aces & Eights, from Kenzer and Company.

It's complex as hell, but rewarding.  I mean, when you have a shootout in a bar, where DO all the stray rounds go?

TGRR,
Has killed the piano player, 2 hookers, the old prospector, and the bartender.  Scatterguns indoors.  Do Never.

Totally looking that shit up.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 07, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Delta Green.

It's like the X-Files meets the Cthulhu Mythos.

Only everyone's a crazy Viet Nam veteran in stead of a crazy FBI agent.

Which just adds to the fun.

Well, that and the possibility of the Mi-go anally probing your entire group at some point.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Phox on January 07, 2011, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 07, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Delta Green.

It's like the X-Files meets the Cthulhu Mythos.

Only everyone's a crazy Viet Nam veteran in stead of a crazy FBI agent.

Which just adds to the fun.

Well, that and the possibility of the Mi-go anally probing your entire group at some point.

Oh most definitely. Paranoia + Top Notch Military Hardware always ends hilariously.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Richter on January 07, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Paranoia is one of my favorites. :lulz:

Also, didn't mean to gank your list.  Didn't read back enough. :oops:
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Phox on January 07, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: Richter on January 07, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Paranoia is one of my favorites. :lulz:

Also, didn't mean to gank your list.  Didn't read back enough. :oops:

I meant "paranoia" as in the kind found when professional soldiers fight eldritch abominations, not the game.  :lulz:

And it's all good.  :)

Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2011, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: Richter on January 07, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Paranoia is one of my favorites. :lulz:

Also, didn't mean to gank your list.  Didn't read back enough. :oops:

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Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Telarus on January 07, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
I can recommend "Dogs in the Vineyard", which is an odd little narrative game about pseudo-Morom 'Gunslinger-Paladins' having to troubleshoot "the whole territory" for the main Church in Salt-Lake City.

Good supernatural elements, very very interesting dice system.

Here's a review: http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/10/10742.phtml

And here's the game: http://www.lumpley.com/dogs.html


Another very interesting game that would make a killer western is "The Mountain Witch", a game about a group of ronin samurai climbing Mt. Fuji in order to take on the Sorcerer who lives on the peak.

The game mechanics focus around how much each character "trusts" each other (spending trust one each other seriously helps the dice odds), and allows each character to have a "Dark Fate"(random card draw) that they can pull out near the endgame to affect the plot. Characters also have to re-rate their "trust" in each other during chapter breaks, and can even spend 'trust' to betray/back-stab somebody. Even better, if your character dies, you still get to spend your 'trust' on the other players, explaining it as either psychological motivation from them remembering your character's fate, or even supernatural intervention from beyond the grave.

These tropes can easily be re-framed as "dust-caked bandits waiting on the 314 Line's Gold Shipment", or what have you.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 08, 2011, 02:58:04 AM
Dogs I've got to get for an in person gaming group later (this game is online).  Even if the game sucks the concept would be a hoot.
Title: Re: Weatern RPG system?
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 08, 2011, 03:01:55 AM
Deadlands also has the nation of Deseret.  :lulz:

Is there some obsession in alternate history setting with Utah, or am I just getting lucky today?