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I know, I only meant it would make it harder.  (IE, not obtainable by somebody who has yet to evolve beyond script kiddie).

The machine is the sum of all forces that exert group influence over individuals.  A mathematical abstract that runs on top of human interaction.  The nature of the machine exists to preserve itself, and to preserve the society and memes it uses to live.





In response to something someone asked much earlier in the thread, I dunno just how old the term 'The Machine' is, but I've seen references to it as far back as 30s literature (Heinlein).  Usage wasn't quite the same, and referred specifically to democratic process political machinations, specifically the preservation of status quo.  (Two party system, redistricting, general brainwashing of people into one party or the other etc).

what do you mean, "knowing who is who" ?

IPs are logged, and since people don't go around and using eachother's accounts we usually have a fairly good idea of who is who?

I meant for an eavesdropper (IE, the FBI, CIA, freemasons or whoever you think would bother), to be able to tell who is who.  Not for the administrators to do the same.

The one thing I can thing of (which may be moot, I'm at work at the moment and can't see the page source), is that https would prevent an eavesdropper from knowing who is who with any real ease.  (It might still be possible to peice it together based on time of packets sent and the resulting changes to the page).