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#1
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 20, 2006, 11:19:53 PM
You helped.

You made me giggle.

:-D
#2
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 20, 2006, 02:19:44 PM
Quote from: triple zero on December 20, 2006, 01:45:14 PM
(this may have already been suggested but) possibly the right kind of ending would be then with the heroprankster dying/getting squashed/locked up/etc, but having waked up a lot of people, following in his footsteps, jaking the fuck out of the rest of the world.

Yeah, I think that's what I'm angling towards.
#3
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 20, 2006, 12:55:38 PM
I'm looking to find a cross between "the hero dies" and a Disney ending.

I hate Disney endings, but I also want to leave the reader with a sense that it's not all entirely futile.
#4
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 09:41:10 PM
Nah, you did fine.

Especially since I was the dunce who had to ask who/what RAW is.  :-D
#5
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 08:56:52 PM
No, I think I was going to stay away from the Illuminatus! approach.

I wasn't aiming for silly, esoteric, or global conspiracies.
#6
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 08:48:56 PM
RAW = ?
#7
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 08:48:03 PM
I guess my plan was to drive home the point in terms that the average reader would be familliar with.

Referencing things in terms of concepts like The Machine and the BIP would probably put off a great many folks who hadn't come to terms with those concepts, much less understood what they were.

Baby steps.
#8
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 08:02:54 PM
As an ending, though, I think I like it.
#9
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:56:31 PM
Hmm.

So he gets stomped, but other people see, cheer, and go and do?
#10
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:52:50 PM
Hmm.  What about the sort of ending where the protagonist would've been totally squished, but The Machine had to run off and deal with the anonymous jakers?

He still looses his job, his house, his wife and his dog, but he gets to wander off.

I'm no big fan of happy endings either, but what's to encourage the consumer if it looks like there's no point to trying?
#11
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 19, 2006, 07:45:17 PM
Ha...I see "someone" was right.

:thanks:

Do I know you?

:-D
#12
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:40:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 19, 2006, 07:38:11 PM
Quote from: Daniel on December 19, 2006, 07:28:44 PM
What do you guys think would work better:

1) Anonymous pranksters, where the plot is more about public reaction

2) Prankster characters that we get to watch and cheer on

?


Both.  First one, then the other.  However, to have a story arc, have your protagonist be a greyface who becomes enlightened, and joins in the fun, only to be destroyed by the System,Ñ¢

OOO!

Have the anonymous pranksters, then someone gets the idea and signs up, they get totally stomped, and then the pranksters spring them out!
#13
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: DJRubberducky on December 19, 2006, 07:34:45 PM
If you choose to have characters, you'd better make it clear how they're hiding their tracks.  You know as well as I do the PTB would squish anyone who pulled too many pranks, or too large of one.

PTB?

Quote from: DJRubberducky on December 19, 2006, 07:34:45 PM
If you want to use any of my stuff, feel free, but DO NOT credit me.  Seriously, do not mention me whatsoever.

Understood.  Danke.
#14
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:28:44 PM
What do you guys think would work better:

1) Anonymous pranksters, where the plot is more about public reaction

2) Prankster characters that we get to watch and cheer on

?
#15
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Looking for some help.
December 19, 2006, 07:25:38 PM
Alright, LMNO, will do.  Thankya.

And LHX -- you might be right, but I've got nothing to loose but some free time.

Might as well try.