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#16
Quote from: triple zero on May 08, 2007, 09:31:53 AM
prometheus rising .. i read it a few months ago when Cram (or someone) posted the pdf:

Link, anyone?

EDIT:

http://www.rawilsonfans.com/downloads/prometheus.pdf

Thanks, 000.
#17
Or Kill Me / Re: War On Drugs
May 08, 2007, 02:27:33 AM
I really like that Cain.  I suppose I should have touched more on how the gov has control of the drug trade as well.  But yeah, they do sound similar.
#18
Nice job, LMNO.  I especially like 00020, you get a bit of a Jello Biafra rhythm going towards the middle.
#19
Or Kill Me / War On Drugs
May 06, 2007, 10:08:35 AM
This is an old one I found, I just touched it up a bit.


The government controls everyone with drugs.  Fuck mass media, fuck subliminal messages, fuck most of that tin-foil hat shit, it's all about drugs, both legal and not.  First off, way back in the day, the government was concerned with the blacks.  Damn near every white person still wasn't quite sure about them after the civil war, both north and south.  Mind you, cocaine was a legal drug back then, it was in all kinds of elixers and "energy drinks" of the time.  Then all of a sudden people started realizing that's not very good for you.  Health report after health report came out outlining the dangers of cocaine use.  Sigmund Freud, once a great supporter of cocaine, went through an addiction, and a nasty withdrawl period.  But it took some hick who claimed that cocaine made black people go crazy and rape white women, to finally get it taken away in the Harrison Act circa 1914.  1914 was the same year that opium too, found it's way to the no-no corner.  While many opium derivatives are still in use today(Morphine being the most widely known, but the prescription drug Oxycontin is also an opium derivative,) the plant itself will definately get you a nice time-out from uncle sam.  Want to know why?  The Chinese people were the biggest sourse of opium in the U.S. in the late 19th and early 20th century.  In 1875 opium smoking was outlawed in San Francisco. Why?  Among other things, it was suggested that chinese men who were high on opium were seducing white women in their opium dens.

Next we come to Marijuana, essentially outlawed in the Marihuana Tax Act circa 1937.  Now why would they outlaw this mellow little plant?  Surely it doesn't make some minority go crazy and try to rape white women.  No, it makes Everybody go crazy and murder and rape and steal.  Everything that's unsavory to do, you do when you're high on marijuana.  We can  thank Harry J. Anslinger for the propaganda tirade that hit Amerika in the 20's and 30's.  Although, he did make one critical blunder that goes to show just how societally driven this 'war' on drugs actually was.  In the course of the House hearings, Representative John Dingell of Michigan remarked, "I am just wondering whether the marijuana addict graduates into a heroin, an opium, or a cocaine user."  Commissioner Anslinger replied, "No, sir; I have not heard of a case of that kind. The marijuana addict does not go in that direction."  By 1955, however, Commissioner Anslinger was testifying before a Senate committee that "eventually if used over a long period, [marijuana] does lead to heroin addiction."  Also, No medical testimony in favor of the proposed federal anti-marijuana law was presented at the 1937 Congressional hearings. Indeed, the only physician to testify was a representative of the American Medical Association,Äì,Äì and he opposed the bill.  Marijuana, he pointed out, was a recognized medicine in good standing, distributed by leading pharmaceutical firms, and on sale at many pharmacies. At least twenty-eight medicinal products containing marijuana were on the market in 1937.  The AMA actually opposed the entire legislation, even though the proposed law would still give physicians the right to prescribe marijuana, and pharmacists the right to distribute it.  The May 1, 1937 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association has this to say:

"After more than twenty years of federal effort and the expenditure of millions of dollars, the opium and cocaine habits are still widespread. The best efforts of an efficient bureau of narcotics, supplemented by the efforts of an equally efficient bureau of customs, have failed to stop the unlawful flow of opium and coca leaves and their compounds and derivatives, on which the continuance and spread of narcotic addiction depends. The best efforts of the Public Health Service to find means for the prevention and cure of narcotic addiction have not yet accomplished that end. Two federal narcotic farms, operating under the supervision and control of the U.S. Public Health Service, cannot yet guarantee the cure of narcotic addiction. What reason is there, then, for believing that any better results can be obtained by direct federal efforts to suppress a habit arising out of the misuse of such a drug as cannabis? Certainly it is almost as easy to smuggle into the country and to distribute as are opium and coca leaves. Moreover it can be cultivated in many parts of the United States and grows wild in field and forest and along the highways in many places."

BOOYAH USA, the AMA just owned you.  But, nevertheless, the drug was still outlawed.

Next, I think we'll talk about alcohol.  First banned in 1918, as the distrust of the immigrant population within the country peaked, especially the anti-German sentiment that had swept the nation in anticipation of WWI.  The Great War gave the teetotalers fresh ammo.  Brewers and retailers were depicted as treacherously shooting Amerikan soldiers in the back because labor and materials were allegedy being diverted from the war effort to fuel an industry that greatly reduced the country's ability to properly defend itself.  It was said that a wartime prohibition would allow the use of grain and molasses to go towards helping the wartime effort, rather than hurting it.

"Liquor is a menace to patriotism because it puts beer before country," touted Prohibitionist Wayne Wheeler. The fact that the names Pabst, Schlitz, and Blatz broadcast their national origin only did further injury to their interests.  As such, the Wartime Prohibition Act hit the country in 1918.

So, fast forward to 1933, everything is illegal, marijuana is on it's way out the door, with many states having already outlawed it, and Henry J Anslinger cranking the great propaganda wheel for nearly a year.  I wonder what's happening in our country?  People are flipping out.  Everything is illegal and they don't like it.  They can't have a drink after work, can't snort some coke off a strippers backside, shit, these people are probably damn scared to light a cigarette the wrong way, and they are letting the government know.  At the 1932 National Democratic Convention, Franklin D Roosevelt, accepting his nomination, had this to say;

"I congratulate this convention for having had the courage, fearlessly to write into its declaration of principles what an overwhelming majority here assembled really thinks about the 18th Amendment. This convention wants repeal. Your candidate wants repeal. And I am confident that the United States of America wants repeal."

And goddamn, if he didn't get elected in a landslide, with 54.7% of the popular vote, and 472 of the 531 electoral votes.  And since then, I'm sure alcohol has been the favorite drug of control over the Amerikan people.  It dulls the pain of having a shit government, it dulls the pain of making shit money while the richest 5% of the population control the world, it dulls the pain of not having a college education, it dulls the pain of anyfuckingthing they want it to.

Now, let's get a little tripped out, maaaan.  Back in 1943, Dr Albert Hoffman, a research chemist, probably had the best day of his life.  He had been working with some ergot derivatives, one of which being LSD25(d-lysergic acid diethylamide,) and accidentally managed to dose himself.  Naturally, he took the day off work, and went home "ill."  A few days later, he had a chance to document these strange feelings;

"Last Friday ... I had to interrupt my laboratory work in the middle of the afternoon and go home, because I was seized with a feeling of great restlessness and mild dizziness. At home, I lay down and sank into a not unpleasant delirium, which was characterized by extremely excited fantasies. In a semiconscious state, with my eyes closed (I felt the daylight to be unpleasantly dazzling), fantastic visions of extraordinary realness and with an intense kaleidoscopic play of colors assaulted me. After about two hours this condition disappeared."

Not bad, eh?  Now LSD is currently measured in micrograms, that's one millionth of a gram, that's how potent it is.  An average hit of acid contains anywhere from 30-100 micrograms, and that should do you just fine.  Now, a few days later Dr. Hoffman decided to further test the effects of the previously untested ergot derivative, and dosed himself with -what he thought- was a measly dose of 0.75 milligrams(750 micrograms=7.5-25 HITS.)  He was in for a rough day.  He outlines the effects here;

"At this point, the laboratory notes are discontinued; the last words were written only with great difficulty. I asked my laboratory assistant to accompany me home, as I believed that I should have a repetition of the disturbance of the previous Friday. While we were cycling home, however, it became clear that the symptoms were much stronger than the first time. I had great difficulty in speaking coherently, my field of vision swayed before me, and objects appeared distorted like images in curved mirrors. I had the impression of being unable to move from the spot, although my assistant told me afterwards that we had cycled at a good pace. Once I was at home, the physician was called.

By the time the doctor arrived, the peak of the crisis had already passed. As far as I remember, the following were the most outstanding symptoms: vertigo; visual disturbances; the faces of those around me appeared as grotesque, colored masks; marked motoric unrest, alternating with paralysis; an intermittent heavy feeling in the head, limbs, and the entire body, as if they were filled with lead; dry, constricted sensation in the throat; feeling of choking; clear recognition of my condition, in which state I sometimes observed, in the manner of an independent, neutral observer; that I shouted half-insanely or babbled incoherent words. Occasionally, I felt as if I were out of my body.

The doctor found a rather weak pulse, but an otherwise normal circulation.... Six hours after ingestion of the LSD, my condition had already improved considerably. Only the visual disturbances were still pronounced. Everything seemed to sway and the proportions were distorted like reflections in the surface of moving water. Moreover, all the objects appeared in unpleasant, constantly changing colors, the predominant shades being sickly green and blue. When I closed my eyes, an unending series of colorful, very realistic and fantastic images surged in upon me. A remarkable feature was the manner in which all acoustic perceptions, (e.g. the noise of a passing car), were transformed into optical effects, every sound evoking a corresponding colored hallucination constantly changing in shape and color like pictures in a kaleidoscope. At about one o'clock, I fell asleep and awoke the next morning feeling perfectly well."

Maybe a little freaky, if you don't know what you're getting into, right?  Did he mention either homicidal or suicidal feelings?  How about the notion that he had gone insane?  Not really.  Actually, from then on until the early sixties, LSD was explored from many different avenues of psychology, studies of chemotherapeutic properties of LSD, exploration of euphoric and antidepressive effect of LSD, shock-inducing properties of LSD and its effect on personality structure, therapeutic use of the abreactive effect of LSD, use of the activating effect of LSD on chronic and fixated symptoms, and many more, I'm sure.  Shit, even the CIA used LSD in it's MKULTRA project, which was amassed to discover a "truth serum" among other things.  In a 1977 Senate hearing, CIA director Stansfield Turner testified;
"Senator INOUYE. ...Admiral Turner, MKULTRA subproject 3 was a project involving the surreptitious administration of LSD on unwitting persons, was it not?

Admiral TURNER. Yes, sir.

Senator INOUYE. In February 1954, and this was in the very early stages of MKULTRA, the Director of Central Intelligence wrote to the technical services staff officials criticizing their judgment because they had participated in an experiment involving the administration of LSD on an unwitting basis to Dr. Frank Olson, who later committed suicide. Now, the individuals criticized were the same individuals who were responsible for subproject 3, involving exactly the same practices. Even though these individuals were clearly aware of the dangers of surreptitious administration and had been criticized by the Director of Central Intelligence, subproject 3 was not terminated immediately after Dr. Olson's death.  In fact, according to documents, it continued for a number of years. Can you provide this committee with any explanation of how such testing could have continued under these circumstances?

Admiral TURNER. No, sir, I really can't."

Even the government thinks there's something to this drug, but as soon as those goddamned long-hair hippie faggots got ahold of it, the shit hit the fan.  Starting in the early 60's, the Amerikan public, awash in a new counter-culture movement, of which LSD was a headliner of, was inundated once again by bullshit propaganda.  The American Indians who used hallucinogenic drugs learned long ago that the expectations present in the mind of a user before he takes the drug are among the major factors determining the nature of his reaction to the drug; they took the drug within a framework that dictated favorable expectations. Scientists subsequently confirmed this phenomenon for LSD itself.  Dr. Sidney Cohen, for example, had noted in 1960 that "those with excessive initial apprehension" are particularly likely to experience bad trips.  So they let the mudslinging begin.  All of a sudden, LSD makes you insane, LSD makes you jump off of buildings and out of windows, LSD makes you homicidal, suicidal, LSD is cut with strychnine, if you take too much, you'll be poisoned.  And so it was; from 1962 to 1969, there was a dramatic increase in hospitalizations and LSD-related accidents, and yet, it wasn't because there were an increased number of people using the drug, the proportions of adverse effects per 1,000 users also increased, now what does that tell you?  Not to mention law enforcement didn't help one bit.  Imagine getting thrown in jail with a head full of acid, I know you'd rather not, but just think about it for a second.  Now imagine fucking around in a field, tripping your balls off, which do you think is more likely to cause adverse effects?  Prime example:  June 21, 1967, 5,000 tablets of the LSD-like drug STP were distributed without charge at a celebration in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. Scores of young people suffered bad trips; 60 of the 5,000 users came to professional attention. Of the 60, 32 were treated at the Haight-Ashbury Medical Clinic. All but one of these 32 patients were returned to their homes or to the care of their friends within a few hours, following explanation and very mild sedation, seven other users, however, were arrested and imprisoned,Äì,Äì and then, as their symptoms grew worse, were taken to the San Francisco General Hospital. They suffered much more severe and prolonged illnesses.  These patients differed from those seen at the Clinic, not so much in the intensity of their reaction as in its management. In the supportive atmosphere of the room of a friend or the Clinic, the patient recognized the drug-induced nature of his experience. If he was incarcerated, his paranoid, hallucinatory behavior was intensified and prolonged.  Fucking Duh.  And So, with a not-so grand hurrah, LSD got the dunce cap in 1967, more as an attempt to disarm the counter-culture than anything else.  It's been a hush-hush topic for 30-some years, but now many psychologists, doctors, and scientists are calling for it's return, at least for clinical testing.

This is the juicy bit here;  nowadays, with everything all fine and illegal, the government can make a killing in fines, it can pull so-called undesirables off the streets at a moments notice, they can bust into your house, shit, they could probably kill your cat if they wanted to, and it would all be A-okay as long as it's part of the war on drugs.  Hmm, how do we let gangs kill each other off so we don't have to deal with them?  Crack/cocaine.  How do we keep people from realizing their ghetto life is shit?  Crack/cocaine.  How can we arrest teenagers for meaningless offenses just to teach them that we have total control?  Marijuana/Alcohol/LSD/etc/etc.  But wait!  What if this backfires, and the gangs get too powerful?  What if crackheads start commiting crimes to feed their habit?  What do we do then?  Simple, just arrest them for using the drugs we want them to use.

The only reason drugs are the scourge of today's society is because we let the government control them.
#20
Or Kill Me / Re: Rant #1: Un-Intelligent Design
May 05, 2007, 02:35:44 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on May 04, 2007, 11:49:40 PM
Quote from: cyberus on May 03, 2007, 07:42:28 AM
Bumped, because this is an awesome rant.  Also bumped because I can't find rant #2!

Rant number 2 was shit, as was rant number three.

And thats all I wrote.

DJ, just..... :roll: :lol: :lulz:

thanks.

I'd read moar.  Just sayin'

Also- sorry for ruinating your thread.
#21
Or Kill Me / Re: The Road to Hell...and Back
May 04, 2007, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on May 04, 2007, 09:49:05 AM
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions does that mean the road to heaven is paved with vengeful hatred and evil scheming?



I think the answer is painfully obvious.
#22
Bring and Brag / Re: Old Rhymes
May 03, 2007, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 03, 2007, 01:20:27 PM
for a kickass 808 and 909 synthesizer/emulator, get Rebirth. i think it's free. and otherwise it's on torrent.

it also features a 303 (acid bassline 18db lowpass resonance filtered square waves FOR THE MOTHERFUCKIN WIN)

only downside to it is that it also emulates the interface of those synths :) which is not too bad with the 808 and 909, but for the 303 it can be hell :) but it'll give you that authentic feel, you know :-P

I used to have rebirth, and yes, that's what pissed me off about it.  I don't have any noise apps installed atm, and considering I have 478mb of free space on my HD, I won't for awhile.

Quote from: LMNO on May 03, 2007, 02:16:19 PMI used to have Reason.  It was awesome.  I wish I could afford a new copy.

I've seen it on some torrent sites.  I d/led it awhile ago, but never got around to installing it.  Probably gone now.  Everything is, and I still have no disk space.
#24
Or Kill Me / Re: Rant #1: Un-Intelligent Design
May 03, 2007, 07:42:28 AM
Bumped, because this is an awesome rant.  Also bumped because I can't find rant #2!
#25
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
May 02, 2007, 09:38:45 AM
http://thetyee.ca/News/2007/04/23/Feldmar/

Apparently having used psychedelics is enough to be barred from coming into the US.
#26
Quote from: DJRubberducky on May 01, 2007, 10:53:33 PM
You know, I really try to make the Zen contribution to these boards by *not* posting inane crap in threads which contain useful information.  So if I have read something and can't think of anything to say rather than "wow, cool" or "yeah, I agree", I don't make any posts at all.

This is my general position also.  Personally, I tend to prefer paragraph form when it comes to reading shit online.  Reads more fluidly.  When I read things with lots of line breaks, it seems like the ideas can stop dead in their tracks.  While some people can do it well, I'm not one of them, and I wouldn't advocate everyone post in that style.

PS- While I wasn't around for the main MW debacle, I found this piece quite informative, and I especially liked the version for non-discordians as it ousts a lot of generalizations and stereotypes people who have heard of discordianism, but not in any learned sense, may tend to have.
#27
Quote from: Hawk on May 01, 2007, 06:05:52 AM
What was the name of that movie? I think Nicholson was in it.

One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest!

Fixxored.
#28
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2007, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: cyberus on April 30, 2007, 06:40:34 PM
Wait until you get to the bit where you read the people's narratives about their experiences, there's some pretty awesome stories in there.  I also like his theory about a release of DMT in the brain as an explaination for UFO abduction experiences.

I'd always seen sleep paralysis as the suggestion for that.  Having suffered it myself once, I can totally understand why people would think of abduction after it.

Yeah, sleep paralysis is no fun.  Happened to me once as well, along with a hypnogogic hallucination.  I was frozen in my bed, and there was a very sinister looking vitorian era dressed man, with a gigantic tophat standing over me.  I still get gooseflesh thinking about it.

Strassman has a whole chapter of that book devoted to people's stories about their DMT experience being a (literal) trip to meet super-intelligent beings.  Sometimes experiments were performed, sometimes knowledge was shared, but all the stories had a similar description of the events, and they were akin to the generic UFO abduction story.
#29
Wait until you get to the bit where you read the people's narratives about their experiences, there's some pretty awesome stories in there.  I also like his theory about a release of DMT in the brain as an explaination for UFO abduction experiences.
#30
Or Kill Me / Re: It's Not Romantic
April 29, 2007, 07:22:23 AM
Quote from: Felix on April 29, 2007, 05:18:23 AM
I'd paraphrase this, but you're too right to even bother.

The only thing I have to add to that is :mittens: