http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
OMG :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
HOW ARE THERE ANY CHILDREN LEFT, WITH ALL THIS BUTTHASH AND ALCOHOL SMOKING?
Here's the original basis for the story that the TERRIBLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN is based on: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/02/20/172488104/the-vaportini-a-cocktail-inhaled-not-stirred
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
Here's the original basis for the story that the TERRIBLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN is based on: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/02/20/172488104/the-vaportini-a-cocktail-inhaled-not-stirred
QuoteThink of it as something between warming a brandy snifter over a candle and freebasing Knob Creek bourbon.
:lulz:
And, on no evidence at all, our children are obviously doing this behind their bedroom doors.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
Here's the original basis for the story that the TERRIBLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN is based on: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/02/20/172488104/the-vaportini-a-cocktail-inhaled-not-stirred
QuoteThink of it as something between warming a brandy snifter over a candle and freebasing Knob Creek bourbon.
:lulz:
And, on no evidence at all, our children are obviously doing this behind their bedroom doors.
:lulz:
IT BYPASSES THE LIVER AND GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BRAIN! IT ENTERS THE BLOODSTREAM AND DOESN'T LEAVE IT! IGNORE THE INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS IN EVERY VAGUELY MEDICAL-SOUNDING THING I SAY, I HEARD IT FROM A DOCTOR WHO WILL REMAIN UNNAMED!
:lulz: What.....
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
Here's the original basis for the story that the TERRIBLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN is based on: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/02/20/172488104/the-vaportini-a-cocktail-inhaled-not-stirred
QuoteThink of it as something between warming a brandy snifter over a candle and freebasing Knob Creek bourbon.
:lulz:
And, on no evidence at all, our children are obviously doing this behind their bedroom doors.
:lulz:
IT BYPASSES THE LIVER AND GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BRAIN! IT ENTERS THE BLOODSTREAM AND DOESN'T LEAVE IT! IGNORE THE INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS IN EVERY VAGUELY MEDICAL-SOUNDING THING I SAY, I HEARD IT FROM A DOCTOR WHO WILL REMAIN UNNAMED!
What I love about the article I linked, is that no scientists or doctors were quoted at all. There was a youtube video that showed someone claiming to "vaportini", and the only person quoted was some prevention asshole. No doctors, no scientists, no law enforcement...And they were even good enough to say that "nobody knows how many hospitalizations have occurred", rather than "nobody knows IF hospitalizations have occurred".
This is what passes for evidence among the prevention community.
Remember "Pharming"?
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
Here's the original basis for the story that the TERRIBLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN is based on: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/02/20/172488104/the-vaportini-a-cocktail-inhaled-not-stirred
QuoteThink of it as something between warming a brandy snifter over a candle and freebasing Knob Creek bourbon.
:lulz:
And, on no evidence at all, our children are obviously doing this behind their bedroom doors.
:lulz:
IT BYPASSES THE LIVER AND GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BRAIN! IT ENTERS THE BLOODSTREAM AND DOESN'T LEAVE IT! IGNORE THE INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS IN EVERY VAGUELY MEDICAL-SOUNDING THING I SAY, I HEARD IT FROM A DOCTOR WHO WILL REMAIN UNNAMED!
What I love about the article I linked, is that no scientists or doctors were quoted at all. There was a youtube video that showed someone claiming to "vaportini", and the only person quoted was some prevention asshole. No doctors, no scientists, no law enforcement...And they were even good enough to say that "nobody knows how many hospitalizations have occurred", rather than "nobody knows IF hospitalizations have occurred".
This is what passes for evidence among the prevention community.
Remember "Pharming"?
:lulz:
Oh yeah, totally! It's a simple formula; you take something that is a real phenomenon, like inhaling alcohol, throw in some alarmist verbiage and talk about what "might" happen, and VOILA! Sensationalist gold!
Remember vodka tampons? :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
WARN RHMN!
Quote from: /b/earman on June 25, 2013, 06:27:38 PM
WARN RHMN!
DID YOU MEAN RWHN? ARE YOU ON THE PIPE RIGHT NOW?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Yep. But perhaps the most telling is that they only have one quote from this guy but several from the prevention guy.
Get a random quote from a doctor, just to make the whole thing legit.
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Yep. But perhaps the most telling is that they only have one quote from this guy but several from the prevention guy.
And the nature of the doctor's quote sort of leads me to believe the reporter called some doctor and asked him "what's the difference between drinking booze and inhaling booze?", and he answered, probably laughing at what kind of asshole would ask that, same is if they'd asked, "what if they INJECTED it?"
So, some hipster assholes in NYC figured out how to get fucked up without actually enjoying the booze, and suddenly it's the newest DIRE THREAT TO THE CHILDREN.
:lulz:
And let's assume that the youtube video is accurate; that a couple of kids actually tried this.
There's a video of some teenage assmonkey shoving a bottle rocket up his ass and lighting it, which is PROOF that THE CHILDREN are ALL EXPLODING THEIR RECTUMS.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Yep. But perhaps the most telling is that they only have one quote from this guy but several from the prevention guy.
And the nature of the doctor's quote sort of leads me to believe the reporter called some doctor and asked him "what's the difference between drinking booze and inhaling booze?", and he answered, probably laughing at what kind of asshole would ask that, same is if they'd asked, "what if they INJECTED it?"
So, some hipster assholes in NYC figured out how to get fucked up without actually enjoying the booze, and suddenly it's the newest DIRE THREAT TO THE CHILDREN.
:lulz:
I think this is the most important part to keep in mind. You already have the booze there, why not sip at it and keep a buzz longer?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:39:32 PM
And let's assume that the youtube video is accurate; that a couple of kids actually tried this.
There's a video of some teenage assmonkey shoving a bottle rocket up his ass and lighting it, which is PROOF that THE CHILDREN are ALL EXPLODING THEIR RECTUMS.
:lulz:
:spittake:
Yeah, just kids seem idiotic to us, doesn't mean that stuff seems idiotic to them either.
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:40:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Yep. But perhaps the most telling is that they only have one quote from this guy but several from the prevention guy.
And the nature of the doctor's quote sort of leads me to believe the reporter called some doctor and asked him "what's the difference between drinking booze and inhaling booze?", and he answered, probably laughing at what kind of asshole would ask that, same is if they'd asked, "what if they INJECTED it?"
So, some hipster assholes in NYC figured out how to get fucked up without actually enjoying the booze, and suddenly it's the newest DIRE THREAT TO THE CHILDREN.
:lulz:
I think this is the most important part to keep in mind. You already have the booze there, why not sip at it and keep a buzz longer?
Or, you know, enjoy the taste.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
Remember vodka tampons? :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
PERSONALLY, I JUST SCRAPE SOME SKIN OFF AND GRIND THE BOOZE INTO THE WOUND.
This is what happens as a result of Jenkem legalisation. I blame Canada. Prohibition must be re-enacted.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:40:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Yep. But perhaps the most telling is that they only have one quote from this guy but several from the prevention guy.
And the nature of the doctor's quote sort of leads me to believe the reporter called some doctor and asked him "what's the difference between drinking booze and inhaling booze?", and he answered, probably laughing at what kind of asshole would ask that, same is if they'd asked, "what if they INJECTED it?"
So, some hipster assholes in NYC figured out how to get fucked up without actually enjoying the booze, and suddenly it's the newest DIRE THREAT TO THE CHILDREN.
:lulz:
I think this is the most important part to keep in mind. You already have the booze there, why not sip at it and keep a buzz longer?
Or, you know, enjoy the taste.
Yeah, I was implying that bit with the sipping, but kinda failed with it.
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
I think that's the other part too. It's making something unnecessarily complicated for less reward.
Hey dude, I just got this guy in the parking lot to buy me a 30 rack, lets go find a way to huff it!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
All of these instant-download wifi drugs from the App Store have made things really confusing. You can't even get a ditch weed-level buzz without four Instagrams and an Xbox.
Lamest future EVER.
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
I think that's the other part too. It's making something unnecessarily complicated for less reward.
Hey dude, I just got this guy in the parking lot to buy me a 30 rack, lets go find a way to huff it!
Actually, thinking back on it, my generation went to ridiculous lengths to get high. Licking toads (!!!), all kinds of shit.
Fortunately, I had access to Toledo window-box crapweed and shitty American beer, so I didn't have to work too hard.
Needless to say, this all led to heroin and butthash, and RUINED MY LIFE.
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
All of these instant-download wifi drugs from the App Store have made things really confusing. You can't even get a ditch weed-level buzz without four Instagrams and an Xbox.
Lamest future EVER.
The day they actually invent that shit is the day everyone stops moving and starves to death.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
I think that's the other part too. It's making something unnecessarily complicated for less reward.
Hey dude, I just got this guy in the parking lot to buy me a 30 rack, lets go find a way to huff it!
Actually, thinking back on it, my generation went to ridiculous lengths to get high. Licking toads (!!!), all kinds of shit.
Fortunately, I had access to Toledo window-box crapweed and shitty American beer, so I didn't have to work too hard.
Needless to say, this all led to heroin and butthash, and RUINED MY LIFE.
Mine probably did too, but I can only seem to remember it entailing my friends coming up with different types of bongs just as a creative exercise. We were pretty good kids, all in all. Pretty much the same thing with me, even nowadays I get an occasional nostalgic urge to drink a Busch.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 25, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
FUCK ALL OF THAT, these kids need to GET WIT DA TIMES
The way of the future is sitting your bare ass in a bedpan filled with street-grade Four Loko (or homemade equivalent), playing D&D and wearing Harry Potter wizard hats. And then put it on YouTube.
When I was a kid, we just smoked bad weed and called it a day. There wasn't time for all this complexity.
All of these instant-download wifi drugs from the App Store have made things really confusing. You can't even get a ditch weed-level buzz without four Instagrams and an Xbox.
Lamest future EVER.
The day they actually invent that shit is the day everyone stops moving and starves to death.
I'm for anything that stops the fuckwits from cramming quarter pounders in their gaping maws. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Oh fuck. 40 pages.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 07:32:42 PM
Oh fuck. 40 pages.
Optimist. Asshole is now here to tell us what a serious threat this is. 200+ pages, with us being regaled with tales of pharming and vodka condoms and all the other things that killed all the children.
On just as much evidence, mind you. :lulz:
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Of COURSE it is, RWHN. Just like all the other VIRAL, TRENDY THREATS TO THE CHILDREN that preventionists screech about every fucking year.
All of which turn out to be humungous killers, which is why the species is going extinct.
You guys are a joke.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Of COURSE it is, RWHN. Just like all the other VIRAL, TRENDY THREATS TO THE CHILDREN that preventionists screech about every fucking year.
All of which turn out to be humungous killers, which is why the species is going extinct.
You guys are a joke.
So how many kids would it have to kill/seriously ill before we are allowed to talk about it and make parents aware?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Of COURSE it is, RWHN. Just like all the other VIRAL, TRENDY THREATS TO THE CHILDREN that preventionists screech about every fucking year.
All of which turn out to be humungous killers, which is why the species is going extinct.
You guys are a joke.
So how many kids would it have to kill/seriously ill before we are allowed to talk about it and make parents aware?
This isn't North Korea. You can talk all you like...but nobody's listening, no matter WHAT you tell each other under the fart-huffing blanket.
You've cried wolf way too often.
(edit for typo)
So why are you whining about it?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Of COURSE it is, RWHN. Just like all the other VIRAL, TRENDY THREATS TO THE CHILDREN that preventionists screech about every fucking year.
All of which turn out to be humungous killers, which is why the species is going extinct.
You guys are a joke.
So how many kids would it have to kill/seriously ill before we are allowed to talk about it and make parents aware?
Let's start with "one" and I'll see you in 40 pages to request this again.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/2183-look-at-him-look-at-him-and-laugh.jpg)
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401 (http://www.today.com/news/dangerous-viral-trend-threatens-teens-smoking-alcohol-6C10435401)
Quote"These videos scare the hell out of me," says Steve Pasierb, who runs the partnership at drugfree.org.
This could be even worse than when the little bastards were smoking banana peels.
QuoteThis is so new that there are no hard numbers yet on how many kids have ended up in the hospital from smoking alcohol.
I CAN NAME THIS SONG IN TWO NOTES!
It is quite a bit worse than smoking banana peels. This is a pretty dangerous activity, particularly for teens and children.
Of COURSE it is, RWHN. Just like all the other VIRAL, TRENDY THREATS TO THE CHILDREN that preventionists screech about every fucking year.
All of which turn out to be humungous killers, which is why the species is going extinct.
You guys are a joke.
So how many kids would it have to kill/seriously ill before we are allowed to talk about it and make parents aware?
Let's start with "one" and I'll see you in 40 pages to request this again.
And at 80 and at 120 and etc etc ad nauseum.
It's easier to deal with imaginary threats than real ones, after all. That's how you preventionist.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Naw, I tripped across this retarded shit on NBC's website, and I thought of you.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/He%20sees.png)
Is it just me that is reminded of RWHN when cheap, sensationalist bullshit appears on the news?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Naw, I tripped across this retarded shit on NBC's website, and I thought of you.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/He%20sees.png)
Hmm, and yet you are already whining about me posting in the thread that you started because of an article that you found that made you think of me. :|
Have you been huffing alcohol?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Naw, I tripped across this retarded shit on NBC's website, and I thought of you.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/He%20sees.png)
Hmm, and yet you are already whining about me posting in the thread that you started because of an article that you found that made you think of me. :|
Have you been huffing alcohol?
Naw. Saw you attention-whoring and thought maybe you were lonely.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,34752.msg1272212.html#msg1272212
Just kidding. I wasn't whining about you posting, RWHN, I knew you'd have to. You're sort of OCD about these sorts of things.
Besides, I didn't even bring your name up in the first place. I was just laughing at the whole idea of preventionists. Not everything is all about you.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 07:32:42 PM
Oh fuck. 40 pages.
Optimist. Asshole is now here to tell us what a serious threat this is. 200+ pages, with us being regaled with tales of pharming and vodka condoms and all the other things that killed all the children.
On just as much evidence, mind you. :lulz:
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 25, 2013, 07:32:42 PM
Oh fuck. 40 pages.
Optimist. Asshole is now here to tell us what a serious threat this is. 200+ pages, with us being regaled with tales of pharming and vodka condoms and all the other things that killed all the children.
On just as much evidence, mind you. :lulz:
If you look a little further back, you'll see that:
1. You had already been brought up, and
2. You had already posted your usual bullshit.
Do try to keep up, you weedy little nerd.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Naw, I tripped across this retarded shit on NBC's website, and I thought of you.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/He%20sees.png)
I mean, it's entirely possible to make fun of all the other retards in your "field", without specifically mentioning you, right? The whole pack of you seem to be alarmist morons.
It's possible, except the posts above clearly indicate I was a motivating factor. I mean, it's okay, it was either that or you were looking for a reach around from the choir.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 09:56:06 PM
It's possible, except the posts above clearly indicate I was a motivating factor. I mean, it's okay, it was either that or you were looking for a reach around from the choir.
You seem to have confused me for someone who takes you and your sniveling seriously. I saw something INANE, it DID remind me of you, but I would have posted it
anyway.
Just because you're a fucking idiot doesn't mean you're the
only fucking idiot. Seriously.
And I don't suppose you've figured out that there IS a choir, not because of mind lazors, but because, you know, everyone hates your stinking, low-rant fascist guts. No, it couldn't be that. It must instead be Dok's EVIL MIND CONTROL TECHNIQUES and CLONE ARMY.
:lulz:
Dumbass.
I didn't say anything about mind-lazors, but, by that same token, the latest posts in the stickied "New Friends" make it pretty clear that you and Nigel revel in the idea of it. :lulz:
Which is understandable, everyone wants to feel valued and respected by others.
Oh and I'm a fascist now, eh? Cool!
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 10:07:38 PM
I didn't say anything about mind-lazors, but, by that same token, the latest posts in the stickied "New Friends" make it pretty clear that you and Nigel revel in the idea of it. :lulz:
Which is understandable, everyone wants to feel valued and respected by others.
REMEMBER, KIDS: DO NOT USE SATIRE AROUND DUMB PEOPLE.
:lulz:
C'mon, you and I both know you crave that kind of attention. It's why you get your shorts in a twist when people aren't posting and interacting with you. I'm here just trying to keep you happy. ;-)
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 10:52:25 PM
C'mon, you and I both know you crave that kind of attention. It's why you get your shorts in a twist when people aren't posting and interacting with you. I'm here just trying to keep you happy. ;-)
This is the part where I stop laughing and get mad, right? :lulz:
Remember, kids: No matter how busy you are, or how focused you are on anything, there's always time to stop, smell the flowers, and crap all over a "policy maker". In this case, the dumbass at the link, but if there's a local one, he or she will be sure to stick his head underneath your pooper, too.
It's like having targets that aim for the bullet.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9zbf75kZ1r6hyw8o1_400.png)
Kind of looks more like a really bad mucus problem.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 25, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
Remember vodka tampons? :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
PERSONALLY, I JUST SCRAPE SOME SKIN OFF AND GRIND THE BOOZE INTO THE WOUND.
:lulz:
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I mean, technically you CAN inhale it that fast, it's just that, like sticking vodka in your vagina, it would be neither simple nor particularly pleasurable, as I'm sure anyone who has accidentally inhaled a bit of bourbon can attest. :lulz:
:lulz:
I want to see someone shooting this "smoked" booze buttchug style. Back to the days of blowing smoke up your own ass.
Quote from: Richter on June 26, 2013, 02:03:24 AM
:lulz:
I want to see someone shooting this "smoked" booze buttchug style. Back to the days of blowing smoke up your own ass.
Which is, when it's all said and done, what this is all about.
HOW MANY KIDS HAVE TO GET HURT OR DIE FROM SNORTING SKITTLES, HUH?
BAN AIR BEFORE THEY HYPERVENTILATE
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Well, yes, people are doing it which can be easily proven by the fact that a) there is a product (Google: Vaportini) and b) people are buying and using the product.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 02:30:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Well, yes, people are doing it which can be easily proven by the fact that a) there is a product (Google: Vaportini) and b) people are buying and using the product.
So, how many kids are using it?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 02:34:01 AM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 02:30:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Well, yes, people are doing it which can be easily proven by the fact that a) there is a product (Google: Vaportini) and b) people are buying and using the product.
So, how many kids are using it?
I'll bet the farm it ain't zero.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 02:37:14 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 02:34:01 AM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 02:30:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
Well, yes, people are doing it which can be easily proven by the fact that a) there is a product (Google: Vaportini) and b) people are buying and using the product.
So, how many kids are using it?
I'll bet the farm it ain't zero.
Well, yeah, you kind of have a vested interest in it, the same way a vulture has a vested interest in alkaline water holes.
Do you think it's zero?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:03:36 AM
Do you think it's zero?
I think it's probably about the same number as the kids who had pharming parties. IE, the ones in your head.
That was a yes or no question.
Let's try again.
Do you think it is zero?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:07:32 AM
That was a yes or no question.
Let's try again.
Do you think it is zero?
Fuck you, you're not the boss of me.
Ooh, feisty tonight.
Of course I know that means that you know it isn't zero, but you are too afraid to utter the words.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:14:43 AM
Ooh, feisty tonight.
Of course I know that means that you know it isn't zero, but you are too afraid to utter the words.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect, here. YOU think we're having a debate, and I'M laughing at you because you're a DUMBASS.
Oh, I know you don't want to have a debate on this, you are making that very clear. :lulz:
Because of course you know that kids are doing this, because of course they are. It's what kids do, test boundaries. What, there's a machine that can turn alcohol into vapor? Cool, let's get one and try it out.
It's the same curiousity that leads to kids huffing.
Nowhere in any of the articles provided in this thread does it say the sky is falling amd that every kid in America is going to be huffing bourbon. That doesn't mean you can't make parents and others aware of this new gizmo and that some kids do appear to be drawn to it.
You live in a very odd all-or-nothing paradigm. Reality isn't that neat and tidy I'm afraid.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:44:57 AM
Oh, I know you don't want to have a debate on this, you are making that very clear. :lulz:
He CAN be taught!
Debate would necessitate a reality-based discussion.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 04:10:59 AM
Debate would necessitate a reality-based discussion.
And also an interest on my part in talking about something with a pompous, proudly-arrogant ass.
:lulz:
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 25, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
So why are you whining about it?
:lulz:
Nobody's listening but I need to make a thread about it anyway.
Slow day on PD Rog?
:lulz:
Naw, I tripped across this retarded shit on NBC's website, and I thought of you.
(http://www.fizzygrizzly.com/forum/images/smilies/He%20sees.png)
Hmm, and yet you are already whining about me posting in the thread that you started because of an article that you found that made you think of me. :|
Have you been huffing alcohol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:18:17 AM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:14:43 AM
Ooh, feisty tonight.
Of course I know that means that you know it isn't zero, but you are too afraid to utter the words.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect, here. YOU think we're having a debate, and I'M laughing at you because you're a DUMBASS.
YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE! HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Someone make a pic of Roger shitting in RWHN's mouth
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:57:32 AM
Because of course you know that kids are doing this, because of course they are. It's what kids do, test boundaries. What, there's a machine that can turn alcohol into vapor? Cool, let's get one and try it out.
It's the same curiousity that leads to kids huffing.
Nowhere in any of the articles provided in this thread does it say the sky is falling amd that every kid in America is going to be huffing bourbon. That doesn't mean you can't make parents and others aware of this new gizmo and that some kids do appear to be drawn to it.
You live in a very odd all-or-nothing paradigm. Reality isn't that neat and tidy I'm afraid.
There is a machine that turns children into RWHN.
Do you know how many children are killed RWHNing a year?
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I'm quoting this because RWHN seems to have neglected it in favor of not zero.
Nigel's a brain thingy. I'm going to trust her physiological perspective on it.
So apparently this has been a thing for years... I recall an article about a company in Japan that sold packets of vaporized alcohol. In Spain, alcohol vaporizers have been in use for awhile. I've seen how-to's on various drug sites for years.... So I suppose the most simple question is "Has anyone been hospitalized for alcohol poisoning from vaporized alcohol? If so, was it worse or more dangerous than alcohol poisoning from drinking?"
If people have been hospitalized and its been proven that its more dangerous, then fine... but so far I haven't found anything except for variations on a Chicken Little "OMGZ THE VAPORIZED ALCOHOL!!!"
Its been around, its been done, what are the current results? So far, I haven't found a single report on real numbers. Without that, I don't understand how anyone could make any claims about its danger or lack thereof.
It's even worse because it takes attention away from the silent Jenkem epidemic afflicting the masses.
While you're worrying about little billy with his vaportini, little Jimmy is exploding in a haze of shit. Deal with the real problems in society.
Just to highlight the fruitlessness of the cause:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23048267
QuoteThe UK has the largest market for so-called "legal highs" in the European Union, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC).
A total of 670,000 Britons aged 15-24 have experimented with the substances at least once, it says in its 2013 World Drug Report.
It says there has been an alarming increase worldwide in new psychoactive substances, known as NPS.
Mephedrone use, though, has declined in England and Wales since it was banned.
Mephedrone, also known as meow meow or M-CAT, is the most widely used of the new psychoactive substances in the UK. It was banned in 2010.
Drawing on European Commission data from 2011 and United Nations population statistics, the World Drug Report says the UK is Europe's largest market "for legal substances that imitate the effects of illicit drugs".
QuoteIt added that while the use of traditional drugs such as heroin or cocaine is globally stable, new psychoactive substances "are proliferating at an unprecedented rate".
And new substances are being identified all the time.
At the end of 2009, 166 NPS had been identified worldwide. By mid-2012 that had risen to 251.
"For the first time, the number of NPS exceeded the total number of substances under international control (234), " the report said.
BAN ALL THE THINGS.
QuoteIn 2010-2011, mephedrone was the second most widely misused substance in England and Wales, on a par with cocaine powder, according to the report.
But following an import ban and classification as a Class B substance, mephedrone use has declined, after years of increase.
"We have seen a decrease in use (in the UK) since the legislation got put in place," Mr Tettey said.
The UK has a moral panic on some substance regularly. Usually after a kid "was nearly hospitalised". It's easier to lose your shit about the new possibly dangerous to kids thing. That does not mean it makes sense. David Nutt pointed out more people die from Horse riding than Ecstasy and his views were taken with the consideration they warrant in the UK - None.
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I'm quoting this because RWHN seems to have neglected it in favor of not zero.
Nigel's a brain thingy. I'm going to trust her physiological perspective on it.
A college student? Set the bar high.
If you vaporize alcohol instead of drinking it you get drunk faster with less alcohol. THIS IS A GOOD THING. Especially for your liver.
You also get over the buzz faster and you get no hangover.
Except since it is bypassing your stomach and liver you are getting it in a much more concentrated form which means alcohol poisoning can also happen a lot quicker.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 26, 2013, 10:37:43 AM
QuoteIn 2010-2011, mephedrone was the second most widely misused substance in England and Wales, on a par with cocaine powder, according to the report.
But following an import ban and classification as a Class B substance, mephedrone use has declined, after years of increase.
"We have seen a decrease in use (in the UK) since the legislation got put in place," Mr Tettey said.
Oh, look, the ban lead to decreased use. Awesome!
Yet another tragic case of RWHN not doing his research:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/shortcuts/2012/dec/02/mephedrone-heroin-cheap-rival
QuoteResearch carried out among police forces, drug agencies and frontline drug workers across the UK, published this month by the charity DrugScope, shows that while use of substances such as cannabis, heroin, speed and cocaine is decreasing, mephedrone use is on the rise.
"It has become really prolific in the past 12 months; we have young people from 13 years old taking it," says Lucy Hulin, a substance misuse worker in Gloucester. "People we see are using the drug all day, mainly because they are bored." Hulin says the young people's drug service in Gloucester has seen more than 50 new cases of problematic mephedrone use in the past nine months.
In Barry, south Wales, drug workers have witnessed an epidemic of mephedrone injecting among the town's 200 or so users of intravenous heroin and amphetamine. "It happened very quickly and we didn't see it coming," says Mike Brown, a case manager at drug charity Inroads. "Virtually all our heroin and speed injectors suddenly began injecting mephedrone instead. It's a close community, so habits spread quickly. They call it 'M-smack'."
It is easy to see how the drug might flourish. Less reliant on a traditional distribution system than crack, cocaine, ecstasy and crystal meth, mephedrone is more accessible to those living outside major city centres. And it has none of the "junkie" stigma associated with heroin and crack.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/11/mephedrone-more-popular-after-ban
QuoteMoves to criminalise the new wave of synthetic drugs, known as legal highs, appear to have backfired after it emerged that mephedrone is now more popular among clubbers than when it was not banned.
Confirmation comes in a survey of London club-goers carried out by researchers at Lancaster University and Guy's and St Thomas' NHS foundation trust. Published on Monday in the Journal of Substance Use, it assesses the impact of the classification of mephedrone as a class B drug.
The survey builds on earlier work, conducted one evening in July 2010, three months after the drug was made illegal, which found the popularity of mephedrone had surpassed that of all other drugs, with 27% of people questioned in two gay-friendly south London dance clubs reporting that they had or were going to take it that night.
The results of the follow-up study, conducted at the same two clubs in July 2011, found mephedrone had become even more popular. On the night the study was conducted, 41% of club-goers said they had taken or intended to take mephedrone that night.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/28/mephadrone-clubbing-ecstasy-polydrug
QuoteClubbers are regularly taking the former legal high mephedrone alongside ecstasy and cocaine, a trend that experts warn could have grave health implications.
Mephedrone prices have more than doubled from around £10 a gram to between £20 and £25 since the drug was banned in April 2010. However, a new survey of more than 300 clubbers, conducted in south-east London shortly after the ban was introduced and published in the academic journal European Addiction Research, shows they are regularly adding mephedrone to their drug mix, in spite of the higher prices.
The research found that polydrug use was now the norm among clubbers, who are happy to mix legal, newly banned and established illegal club drugs. It indicates that criminalising drugs has little effect on consumption other than to provide new revenue streams for dealers selling established illicit substances. Experts say the findings are important because what happens on the club scene is often copied by wider society later on.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/sep/15/mephedrone-usage-children-drug-workers
QuoteConcerns over the dramatic rise in the use of mephedrone are intensifying as drug workers report seeing more children abusing the drug.
In the last few days police in south Wales, where figures issued last month show offences linked to mephedrone use had increased by more than 400% in 12 months, have issued warnings to parents and schools after a 15-year-old boy was taken to hospital following use of the illegal drug.
Growing anecdotal evidence coming from those working to help people with addictions suggests that the stimulant, which is cheap and easily obtained, is being used by younger people as it becomes increasingly prevalent on Britain's streets.
:lulz:
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I'm quoting this because RWHN seems to have neglected it in favor of not zero.
Nigel's a brain thingy. I'm going to trust her physiological perspective on it.
A college student? Set the bar high.
Yes, with a specialization in brain stuff.
What's your degree in again?
One in science stuff, with a minor in economic thinigies, to go along with a Masters in public policy something or others, and a PhD in awesomesauce.
Wasn't there a scare a few years back concerning kids hyperventilating for fun?
BAN BREATHING.
Quote from: Cain on June 26, 2013, 01:43:37 PM
Yet another tragic case of RWHN not doing his research:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/shortcuts/2012/dec/02/mephedrone-heroin-cheap-rival (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/shortcuts/2012/dec/02/mephedrone-heroin-cheap-rival)
QuoteResearch carried out among police forces, drug agencies and frontline drug workers across the UK, published this month by the charity DrugScope, shows that while use of substances such as cannabis, heroin, speed and cocaine is decreasing, mephedrone use is on the rise.
"It has become really prolific in the past 12 months; we have young people from 13 years old taking it," says Lucy Hulin, a substance misuse worker in Gloucester. "People we see are using the drug all day, mainly because they are bored." Hulin says the young people's drug service in Gloucester has seen more than 50 new cases of problematic mephedrone use in the past nine months.
In Barry, south Wales, drug workers have witnessed an epidemic of mephedrone injecting among the town's 200 or so users of intravenous heroin and amphetamine. "It happened very quickly and we didn't see it coming," says Mike Brown, a case manager at drug charity Inroads. "Virtually all our heroin and speed injectors suddenly began injecting mephedrone instead. It's a close community, so habits spread quickly. They call it 'M-smack'."
It is easy to see how the drug might flourish. Less reliant on a traditional distribution system than crack, cocaine, ecstasy and crystal meth, mephedrone is more accessible to those living outside major city centres. And it has none of the "junkie" stigma associated with heroin and crack.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/11/mephedrone-more-popular-after-ban (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/11/mephedrone-more-popular-after-ban)
QuoteMoves to criminalise the new wave of synthetic drugs, known as legal highs, appear to have backfired after it emerged that mephedrone is now more popular among clubbers than when it was not banned.
Confirmation comes in a survey of London club-goers carried out by researchers at Lancaster University and Guy's and St Thomas' NHS foundation trust. Published on Monday in the Journal of Substance Use, it assesses the impact of the classification of mephedrone as a class B drug.
The survey builds on earlier work, conducted one evening in July 2010, three months after the drug was made illegal, which found the popularity of mephedrone had surpassed that of all other drugs, with 27% of people questioned in two gay-friendly south London dance clubs reporting that they had or were going to take it that night.
The results of the follow-up study, conducted at the same two clubs in July 2011, found mephedrone had become even more popular. On the night the study was conducted, 41% of club-goers said they had taken or intended to take mephedrone that night.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/28/mephadrone-clubbing-ecstasy-polydrug (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/28/mephadrone-clubbing-ecstasy-polydrug)
QuoteClubbers are regularly taking the former legal high mephedrone alongside ecstasy and cocaine, a trend that experts warn could have grave health implications.
Mephedrone prices have more than doubled from around £10 a gram to between £20 and £25 since the drug was banned in April 2010. However, a new survey of more than 300 clubbers, conducted in south-east London shortly after the ban was introduced and published in the academic journal European Addiction Research, shows they are regularly adding mephedrone to their drug mix, in spite of the higher prices.
The research found that polydrug use was now the norm among clubbers, who are happy to mix legal, newly banned and established illegal club drugs. It indicates that criminalising drugs has little effect on consumption other than to provide new revenue streams for dealers selling established illicit substances. Experts say the findings are important because what happens on the club scene is often copied by wider society later on.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/sep/15/mephedrone-usage-children-drug-workers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/sep/15/mephedrone-usage-children-drug-workers)
QuoteConcerns over the dramatic rise in the use of mephedrone are intensifying as drug workers report seeing more children abusing the drug.
In the last few days police in south Wales, where figures issued last month show offences linked to mephedrone use had increased by more than 400% in 12 months, have issued warnings to parents and schools after a 15-year-old boy was taken to hospital following use of the illegal drug.
Growing anecdotal evidence coming from those working to help people with addictions suggests that the stimulant, which is cheap and easily obtained, is being used by younger people as it becomes increasingly prevalent on Britain's streets.
:lulz:
Eh, I was just going with what Junk posted. Sounds like your data wonks over on that side of the pond can't get their acts together.
Nice to focus on the second quote while ignoring the first. Prohibition clearly does work, we just need to ban everything.
Still no mention of one kid actually harmed by vapourtini bullshit. But you don't want to talk about that.
Where's that picture?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:57:32 AM
Because of course you know that kids are doing this, because of course they are. It's what kids do, test boundaries. What, there's a machine that can turn alcohol into vapor? Cool, let's get one and try it out.
It's the same curiousity that leads to kids huffing.
Nowhere in any of the articles provided in this thread does it say the sky is falling amd that every kid in America is going to be huffing bourbon. That doesn't mean you can't make parents and others aware of this new gizmo and that some kids do appear to be drawn to it.
You live in a very odd all-or-nothing paradigm. Reality isn't that neat and tidy I'm afraid.
So we need to alert parents every time something new could potentially harm a child? I call that fear-mongering. Which makes a lot of sense as your job seems to depend on people being scared and stupid.
But no, worry about potential threats. They're much more important than actual problems.
I was first made aware of this by police officers I work with, not the news media. Do we shout about it from the rooftops? No, because one of the negatives of dealing with these things through the news media is it becomes counterproductive and you turn kids onto it that would otherwise never have known about it. But, it is important for professionals to be aware so if/when it does become a problem in our communities, we are equipped to respond accordingly.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
I was first made aware of this by police officers I work with, not the news media. Do we shout about it from the rooftops? No, because one of the negatives of dealing with these things through the news media is it becomes counterproductive and you turn kids onto it that would otherwise never have known about it. But, it is important for professionals to be aware so if/when it does become a problem in our communities, we are equipped to respond accordingly.
Oh? And what were their numbers? Anything about hospitalization rates?
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 01:57:50 PM
One in science stuff, with a minor in economic thinigies, to go along with a Masters in public policy something or others, and a PhD in awesomesauce.
No brain thingies?
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 02:45:57 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 01:57:50 PM
One in science stuff, with a minor in economic thinigies, to go along with a Masters in public policy something or others, and a PhD in awesomesauce.
No brain thingies?
"Public policy". It is sort of the opposite of brain thingies. It's how you train people to sit on committees.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I'm quoting this because RWHN seems to have neglected it in favor of not zero.
Nigel's a brain thingy. I'm going to trust her physiological perspective on it.
A college student? Set the bar high.
It's higher than letting professional committee members deal with things.
You have no training in the subject. You've been trained to sit at tables and blah BLAH blah
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :sad:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :sad:
Oh, and it WAS hilarious. But he had to make it about him, and of course, everybody bit.
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 02:45:57 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 01:57:50 PM
One in science stuff, with a minor in economic thinigies, to go along with a Masters in public policy something or others, and a PhD in awesomesauce.
No brain thingies?
Yes, I have background in brain thingies too. It's kind of necessary for this job.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :sad:
Oh, and it WAS hilarious. But he had to make it about him, and of course, everybody bit.
All drug threads are about RWHN. It's
all he has, Nigel.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 26, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: FRIDAY TIME on June 25, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Well, they do quote one doctor:
Quote"The normal sensation when you drink and you are getting more drunk is to vomit: It's your body's way of expelling alcohol," explained Dr. Robert Glatter of Lenox Hill Hospital. " However, when you inhale alcohol, your brain has no way of expelling it."
And that's true information. But at what point is he saying that people are actually doing this, that kids are actually doing it, or that he's dealt with any cases of this at all?
It's also WRONG
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
You can't inhale vaporized alcohol fast enough to get to the puking point, and it gets into the brain the same way it gets out, through the blood.
NO, IT'S TRUE, YOUR BRAIN CAN'T VOMIT, THOUGH IT PROBABLY WANTS TO AFTER READING SOMETHING THIS MORONIC.
I'm quoting this because RWHN seems to have neglected it in favor of not zero.
Nigel's a brain thingy. I'm going to trust her physiological perspective on it.
A college student? Set the bar high.
It's higher than letting professional committee members deal with things.
You have no training in the subject. You've been trained to sit at tables and blah BLAH blah
Hmm, funny, I don't remember seeing you in any of my classes or trainings.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :(
Oh, and it WAS hilarious. But he had to make it about him, and of course, everybody bit.
You can set your watch to it can't you? :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :sad:
Oh, and it WAS hilarious. But he had to make it about him, and of course, everybody bit.
All drug threads are about RWHN. It's all he has, Nigel.
Lame. :cry:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 26, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 26, 2013, 03:07:54 PM
Why is this happening again?
You know he only posts to troll, right?
I blame myself. I saw another buttchugging article. :(
Oh, and it WAS hilarious. But he had to make it about him, and of course, everybody bit.
All drug threads are about RWHN. It's all he has, Nigel.
I could bore you with the details of my vacation:
This morning I woke up to my son jumping up and down on my bed screeching, "Wake Up Time!"
Next, we all enjoyed a breakfast of Frosted Flakes and OJ.
Now, the kids are having story time with Grandma. Awwwww!
I'm thinking perhaps the original OB might have stayed in business had The Scrid had a few Vaportinis around.
Quote from: My Other Username Is A Pseudonym on June 26, 2013, 03:20:44 PM
I'm thinking perhaps the original OB might have stayed in business had The Scrid had a few Vaportinis around.
Shhhh. Gay things are happening.
It has been 6 years and we are still at zero deaths from vaportinis.