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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 12:49:52 am

Title: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 12:49:52 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Juana on June 26, 2012, 12:51:31 am
Did he actually say that? :lulz: I love that man.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 26, 2012, 01:53:46 am
It works the same way they can call Santa Clause a "jolly old elf" and "the spirit of giving" yet picture him as a six foot four fatass Coca-ColaTM shill.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 02:39:55 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 02:47:29 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Freeky on June 26, 2012, 02:52:50 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Emphasized for truth.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 03:09:49 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 03:24:46 am
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.

My ass is never reflective, but it glows.  Oh, yes.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Richter on June 26, 2012, 03:37:09 am
We can infer, then, that while Rudolph's nose utilizes and re-directs Holy Light tm, but is not actually a generating source.  These verses were added after a certain red triplane buzzed Santa's shop screaming about heretics. 
Nobody ever wrote the song "Don't argue theology with a drunken Baron" though.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 26, 2012, 06:41:15 pm
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.

But does a blue ghost firefly emit enough light to act as a guide in dense fog and/or blizzard conditions?  :fap:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 08:24:22 pm
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.

But does a blue ghost firefly emit enough light to act as a guide in dense fog and/or blizzard conditions?  :fap:

No, but they are decidedly /smaller/ than a reindeer's nose.

Exhibit 1:

(http://bugguide.net/images/cache/Q0W0R090DQ7QNRLQJRMQVRHQ9R40S0XQORJKNRG0CQFKFQJKAR3KOQ3KARYK9RM0CQM03QG0OQYKJQI0ARRQBR50WR.jpg)

Phausis reticulata, ventral view. 5-8 mm long. Note the shiny (yet not luminous) organ on the abdomen.

Exhibit 2: (http://www.mtevanstroutfishing.com/assets/reindeer-nose-closeup.jpg)

Reindeer nose, anterior view. ~2-3 cm. Note: not Rudolf.

As you can see, the size of a reindeer's nose is several times that of a blue ghost firefly, not to mention only a small portion of that firefly is bioluminescent. QED.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 08:37:21 pm
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.

But does a blue ghost firefly emit enough light to act as a guide in dense fog and/or blizzard conditions?  :fap:

No, but they are decidedly /smaller/ than a reindeer's nose.

Exhibit 1:

(http://bugguide.net/images/cache/Q0W0R090DQ7QNRLQJRMQVRHQ9R40S0XQORJKNRG0CQFKFQJKAR3KOQ3KARYK9RM0CQM03QG0OQYKJQI0ARRQBR50WR.jpg)

Phausis reticulata, ventral view. 5-8 mm long. Note the shiny (yet not luminous) organ on the abdomen.

Exhibit 2: (http://www.mtevanstroutfishing.com/assets/reindeer-nose-closeup.jpg)

Reindeer nose, anterior view. ~2-3 cm. Note: not Rudolf.

As you can see, the size of a reindeer's nose is several times that of a blue ghost firefly, not to mention only a small portion of that firefly is bioluminescent. QED.

Yes, but the common firefly flies much slower than a reindeer, so perhaps the firefly CAN navigate in fog.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 09:17:11 pm
"According to the song, Rudolph's nose is shiny, which means it reflects rather than emits light. Useless for navigating fog."
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's true. But also says "you could even say it glowed". So, the nose not only reflected light, it emitted light. Thereby being useful both in bright sun and in fog.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDLrwwOxnaA)

It states that his nose IS shiny, and COMPARES it to a glowing object.

Also, that video kicks ass.  Neil deGrasse Tyson is a fucking TITAN.

Let's consult the relevant lines, here:

Rudolf the red nosed reindeer/
had a very shiny nose
and if you ever saw it
you could even say it glowed.


The first observation is, indeed of reflectivity, but on closer scrutiny, it has some low level of bioluminescence. Many such natural lights are barely discernable under less than idea conditions. The blue ghost firefly (Phausis reticulata) has a very dim yet continuous light, not at all visible during twilight but spectacularly visible under dark conditions, especially in fog, where they look like will 'o the wisps. Such bioluminescent organs are reflective under normal lighting conditions.

But does a blue ghost firefly emit enough light to act as a guide in dense fog and/or blizzard conditions?  :fap:

No, but they are decidedly /smaller/ than a reindeer's nose.

Exhibit 1:

(http://bugguide.net/images/cache/Q0W0R090DQ7QNRLQJRMQVRHQ9R40S0XQORJKNRG0CQFKFQJKAR3KOQ3KARYK9RM0CQM03QG0OQYKJQI0ARRQBR50WR.jpg)

Phausis reticulata, ventral view. 5-8 mm long. Note the shiny (yet not luminous) organ on the abdomen.

Exhibit 2: (http://www.mtevanstroutfishing.com/assets/reindeer-nose-closeup.jpg)

Reindeer nose, anterior view. ~2-3 cm. Note: not Rudolf.

As you can see, the size of a reindeer's nose is several times that of a blue ghost firefly, not to mention only a small portion of that firefly is bioluminescent. QED.

Yes, but the common firefly flies much slower than a reindeer, so perhaps the firefly CAN navigate in fog.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 09:23:27 pm
Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Epimetheus on June 26, 2012, 09:35:44 pm
Another relevant line y'all are forgetting is within Santa's request:

"Rudolph, with your nose so bright..."

Rudolph's nose is not only shiny, and SEEMS to glow, but is BRIGHT, which specifically means giving off light.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 26, 2012, 10:13:58 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 10:31:11 pm
Another relevant line y'all are forgetting is within Santa's request:

"Rudolph, with your nose so bright..."

Rudolph's nose is not only shiny, and SEEMS to glow, but is BRIGHT, which specifically means giving off light.

No, while that verse supports my position, it is irrelevant because reflected light can be bright. e.g. glare from water, etc.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 10:33:12 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Indeed. But perhaps there was only fog around the Pole. The poem is unclear. What /is/ clear, is that human settlement increases as one approaches 45N, so city lights would be far more helpful for navigation by that point.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 10:34:51 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 10:39:05 pm
Another relevant line y'all are forgetting is within Santa's request:

"Rudolph, with your nose so bright..."

Rudolph's nose is not only shiny, and SEEMS to glow, but is BRIGHT, which specifically means giving off light.

Subjective opinion.  The omniscient narrator only offered the shiny part as stated fact.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 10:39:12 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.

Ultraviolet, you mean? That would suggest why the glow was only visible under close scrutiny.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.

/Catapulted/ is not flight.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 10:42:48 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.

Ultraviolet, you mean? That would suggest why the glow was only visible under close scrutiny.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.

/Catapulted/ is not flight.

Jumping off of a cliff, however, IS.  It is not efficient flight, nor are we discussing the technical difficulties presented in landing, but there would be a slope that was bounded, so it's flight.

So, the firefly maxes out at about 8KM/hour.

The reindeer accelerates at 9.8 M/S^2, until terminal velocity (or the base of the cliff) is reached.

Reindeer are faster fliers.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 10:43:40 pm
Also, the path of a baseball is considered "flight".  If you had a big enough bat...
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 10:48:13 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.

Ultraviolet, you mean? That would suggest why the glow was only visible under close scrutiny.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.

/Catapulted/ is not flight.

Jumping off of a cliff, however, IS.  It is not efficient flight, nor are we discussing the technical difficulties presented in landing, but there would be a slope that was bounded, so it's flight.

So, the firefly maxes out at about 8KM/hour.

The reindeer accelerates at 9.8 M/S^2, until terminal velocity (or the base of the cliff) is reached.

Reindeer are faster fliers.

This is still irrelevant. Light travels at C. The only thing that matters is if Rudolf's nose is luminous enough to avoid obstacles in heavy fog at that speed. It would seem, if you measure the volume of the nose and relevant surface area, the luminosity is plenty allowing for that increased speed.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Epimetheus on June 26, 2012, 10:50:51 pm
Another relevant line y'all are forgetting is within Santa's request:

"Rudolph, with your nose so bright..."

Rudolph's nose is not only shiny, and SEEMS to glow, but is BRIGHT, which specifically means giving off light.

No, while that verse supports my position, it is irrelevant because reflected light can be bright. e.g. glare from water, etc.

True, I was going by the dictionary definition of bright rather than the scientific use.

Another relevant line y'all are forgetting is within Santa's request:

"Rudolph, with your nose so bright..."

Rudolph's nose is not only shiny, and SEEMS to glow, but is BRIGHT, which specifically means giving off light.

Subjective opinion.  The omniscient narrator only offered the shiny part as stated fact.

This I realized, but thought I'd say it anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 26, 2012, 10:53:47 pm
Roger is just upset because after Rudolf returned from the Great Foggy Ride and was lauded as a hero, no one wanted to play reindeer games with the guy who claimed Rudolf's nose was only reflective, not luminous.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 11:43:55 pm
Roger is just upset because after Rudolf returned from the Great Foggy Ride and was lauded as a hero, no one wanted to play reindeer games with the guy who claimed Rudolf's nose was only reflective, not luminous.

Neil deGrasse Tyson would kill them with one punch, if they tried that shit.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 11:46:29 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.

Ultraviolet, you mean? That would suggest why the glow was only visible under close scrutiny.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.

/Catapulted/ is not flight.

Jumping off of a cliff, however, IS.  It is not efficient flight, nor are we discussing the technical difficulties presented in landing, but there would be a slope that was bounded, so it's flight.

So, the firefly maxes out at about 8KM/hour.

The reindeer accelerates at 9.8 M/S^2, until terminal velocity (or the base of the cliff) is reached.

Reindeer are faster fliers.

This is still irrelevant. Light travels at C. The only thing that matters is if Rudolf's nose is luminous enough to avoid obstacles in heavy fog at that speed. It would seem, if you measure the volume of the nose and relevant surface area, the luminosity is plenty allowing for that increased speed.

Even IF his nose glowed, it would cause other, insurmountable problems:

1.  If it was bright enough, Rudolf would go blind.
2.  Diffused light reflects back at you in fog, meaning they'd be worse off than if they had nothing, crash into a mountain, and die.
3.  At the speeds necessary to maintain flight with fat guy and a billion toys in the sled, they would "overdrive the headlights".  Mountain, death.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 11:55:39 pm
Brightness is relative. If you live at the North Pole and it's a few days after the winter solstice, ANY source of even the tiniest bit of light is going to seem bright, even if it's just Rudolf's nose reflecting the starlight.

But if it's foggy when they get to the Falklands, all of a sudden Santa's in a heap of trouble.

Also, brightness depends on visible wavelengths. Since Santa is referred to as an "Elf," it is possible that his eyes are sensitive to wavelengths of light that Human eyes cannot detect - perhaps Rudolph's nose is merely "shiny" by Human standards, but does actually emit a powerful light in Elf-compatible frequencies.

Ultraviolet, you mean? That would suggest why the glow was only visible under close scrutiny.

Reindeer can't fly. Note the complete lack of reference to flight in the lyrics.

When I get home tonight, I will offer a mathematical proof of my position.  They fly, and faster than a firefly.

/Catapulted/ is not flight.

Jumping off of a cliff, however, IS.  It is not efficient flight, nor are we discussing the technical difficulties presented in landing, but there would be a slope that was bounded, so it's flight.

So, the firefly maxes out at about 8KM/hour.

The reindeer accelerates at 9.8 M/S^2, until terminal velocity (or the base of the cliff) is reached.

Reindeer are faster fliers.

This is still irrelevant. Light travels at C. The only thing that matters is if Rudolf's nose is luminous enough to avoid obstacles in heavy fog at that speed. It would seem, if you measure the volume of the nose and relevant surface area, the luminosity is plenty allowing for that increased speed.

Even IF his nose glowed, it would cause other, insurmountable problems:

1.  If it was bright enough, Rudolf would go blind.
2.  Diffused light reflects back at you in fog, meaning they'd be worse off than if they had nothing, crash into a mountain, and die.
3.  At the speeds necessary to maintain flight with fat guy and a billion toys in the sled, they would "overdrive the headlights".  Mountain, death.


Pardon the intrusion, Roger, but your understanding of Santanic Physics seems somewhat lacking. To your points:

1. There is no scientific evidence that a Flying Reindeer's eyes are damaged by a Flying Reindeer's ultra-bright bioluminescent nose. While your assertion here may be accurate, the burden of proof is on you.

2. This is true, except for points raised in Point 3.

3. While this is true for normal objects under normal conditions, there is no evidence that they apply to Santa. For example, since no one has ever filmed, photographed, or reliably been known to have witnessed Santa's flight, it is reasonable to assume that during his commute, Santa magically transforms to the size of an atom or smaller, along with his cargo. At this size, not only would the issue of fog become moot, but his smaller size and mass would allow for much greater speeds, possibly eliminating the "How does one jolly fat guy fit down every chimney on earth in one night" conundrum. Rudolph's bioluminescence in this scenario is obviously a metaphor for a kind of subspace warp field allowing the change in size, however, which may be another can of worms.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 12:00:53 am
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Freeky on June 27, 2012, 12:03:52 am
Inarguable proof if I ever saw it.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 12:24:14 am
Well, now you've gone and bloody well bumped it off the page.

:crankey:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Freeky on June 27, 2012, 12:31:07 am
My bad.

Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Kai on June 27, 2012, 03:21:33 am
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Telarus on June 27, 2012, 03:59:12 am
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 02:02:47 pm
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:

Everything works better with a diagram.

I should make more of them, on different subjects.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 27, 2012, 05:34:43 pm
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:

Everything works better with a diagram.

I should make more of them, on different subjects.

Yes.
Or a map of the US.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Epimetheus on June 27, 2012, 08:08:36 pm
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:

Everything works better with a diagram.

I should make more of them, on different subjects.

Yes.
Or a map of the US.  :lol:

THISSS
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Salty on June 27, 2012, 08:09:41 pm
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

Fantastic.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Richter on June 28, 2012, 02:40:43 am
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:

As a safety professional though, I feel TGRR has failed in not higlighting such features as :

A: the horn-based roll bar system
B: the self inflating emergency impact scrotum.

No reindeer would make Santa's team without these, by OSHA regs., and hence they must be taken into account in any scientific study of trajectory.
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 28, 2012, 02:50:11 am
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
 

I see now why you said you were giggling through making that. Love the extra touch in the upper right hand corner.

Well done, Reverend, it seems you have passed peer review.  :lulz:

As a safety professional though, I feel TGRR has failed in not higlighting such features as :

A: the horn-based roll bar system
B: the self inflating emergency impact scrotum.

No reindeer would make Santa's team without these, by OSHA regs., and hence they must be taken into account in any scientific study of trajectory.

That would be Tanuki[url].

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5YNZKBI0Q)
Title: Re: Hey, Kai...
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2021, 07:26:17 pm
Proof as earlier promised:

(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa417/DoktorHowl/shutup.jpg)

I had completely forgotten about this, and I should perhaps get back on diagramming truth.