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Sigh.

Keep telling yourself it was about trade deals. It's easier than facing reality I guess.

So trade had absolutely nothing to do with it? Clintons support of the TPP and NAFTA was just trivia? Again, please oh person who was completely ignorant of Trumps victory explain to me how his voters ACTUALLY think.

And keep completely ignoring the economy brahs! Totally isnt a thing that people vote for at all!

...Because we live in hope that people aren't that damn stupid?

So theyre stupid for choosing the person who killed the TPP over the person who wanted "free trade and open borders"?

Also worth noting, at least a few people here called it right and early. I suppose we'll just ignore that to suit your narrative.

Not the people I am talking to right now. Also one of those few people was me.

[Texas]

I point you to the numbers around the popular vote.

This isn't brain surgery. First past the post systems and derivatives thereof, such as the electoral college are great for giving shitty unrepresentative results.

Mind you, nonetheless, more than half of the people who did vote -- and it was not a small turnout by historic figures, at all, DESPITE voter suppression -- voted for Hillary Clinton DESPITE THE FACT THAT MANY OF THEM DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE HER. Despite the fact that she's a woman. That's some pretty fucking impressive unity.

You see I already made a post before :

Requesting a thread split -- this thread is about Trump hilarity.

This is the thread where Rodger has been splitting all my posts that get split anyways

And Im surprised that someone with so many very impressive degrees doesnt understand the electoral college. Trump has 306, Clinton has 232. This is a landslide.

Do you even know where you are? You seem lost.

Explain to me how 306 electoral votes againts 232 isnt a landslide.

The electoral vote was a landslide, the popular vote was pretty much even. That's not a win, that sounds like a cry for reform.

Two things:

1) Would this reform extend to the senate as well? Because its the same principle and few people ever bitch about it.

2) This would have been no guarantee against a Trump victory this year and if it ever happens would not guarantee a lack of future victories. As he himself explained, he built his campaign around scoring electoral votes because thats what it takes to win. If the election was based on the popular vote he would have altered his strategy for that.

Also, think about this for a moment. California and New York being the big contendors seems nice, but the other two heavy weights would be Texas and Florida. I know you think Trump is bad, but do you really really want every Republican candidate from this point on basing his platform on winning the Texan vote out of necessity?

   Which brings us to the point of the EC. America isnt a homogeneous nation, it has a lot of different interests and cultures. Without the EC (and the Senate) America would be run by Texas, Florida, New York and California with the rest of us all just along for the ride. Do you honestly want this? Just because Clinton won in some alternate reality what if fanfiction where Article II vanished on November 7th?

Btw Keep it up guys! The reason you lost is totally because you did so well! Such turnout! Much unity! Just keep reminding yourselves that you did nothing wrong, keep doing the same nothing wrong and the election is in the bag!

Because correctly calling a coin toss is equal to infallibility.

I never said infallability, its just its ironic that someone who was completely deluded about the election is calling someone who was right delusional. And its a coin toss now? Trump won by a landslide, meanwhile most of you were absolutely dead certain that he was going to get destroyed. Up to the day of the election you were all insisting that Trump didnt even have a chance.

He lost the popular vote, that is definitely not winning by a landslide.

And he won the Electoral Vote 306 to 232. You know, the one that actually decides who wins.

Yep, also not a landslide.  He won by an extremely thin margin and lost the popular vote.

Ok you have successfully split that hair. Point still stands. You were all wrong about Trump. Despite being completely wrong none of you are any less smug. Have you ever stopped and thought about why you failed to see Trump coming?

Hmm, let's see:

I know I keep playing this fiddle, but THIS WASN'T ACCIDENTAL. This was orchestrated. Since the 2004 election, Republicans have been working furiously at local levels to close polls in poor and black areas, and to institute voter ID laws and other measures, like registration purges, to block poor and black voters, who trend strongly Democrat, from voting.

Oh, yeah.

So again. Do you honestly think the rust belt would have voted for Clinton if it wasnt for "voter suppression"?

Because correctly calling a coin toss is equal to infallibility.

I never said infallability, its just its ironic that someone who was completely deluded about the election is calling someone who was right delusional. And its a coin toss now? Trump won by a landslide, meanwhile most of you were absolutely dead certain that he was going to get destroyed. Up to the day of the election you were all insisting that Trump didnt even have a chance.

He lost the popular vote, that is definitely not winning by a landslide.

And he won the Electoral Vote 306 to 232. You know, the one that actually decides who wins.

It isnt being claimed. It is a historic fact:





^This is the 2008 map btw, not the Romney map. So again, how did all these Obama states get taken over by literal Nazis?

Because correctly calling a coin toss is equal to infallibility.

I never said infallability, its just its ironic that someone who was completely deluded about the election is calling someone who was right delusional. And its a coin toss now? Trump won by a landslide, meanwhile most of you were absolutely dead certain that he was going to get destroyed. Up to the day of the election you were all insisting that Trump didnt even have a chance.

Lots of people don't vote because they don't feel like its very effective, and they are right to feel that.

And that's how they get the government they deserve.   

Now I feel a bit foolish. Of course taking the ~20 minutes to vote is worth it. It is more effective than other things you could do in that time. I should have just said that they don't feel like its effective but not said they were right to feel so. I guess I am prone to defeatism.

There were areas where it was five to seven hours. Basically, places where people had to miss a full day of work, if they even had the option, in order to vote.

I know I keep playing this fiddle, but THIS WASN'T ACCIDENTAL. This was orchestrated. Since the 2004 election, Republicans have been working furiously at local levels to close polls in poor and black areas, and to institute voter ID laws and other measures, like registration purges, to block poor and black voters, who trend strongly Democrat, from voting.

So without these laws rural/rust belt America would have voted Democrat? Do you still not understand what the electoral college is? Keep in mind, rural/rust belt America did vote Democrat for Obama twice. Very interested in your theory of how Obama won the raging white supremacist vote.

I'd just like to take a moment to point out that no matter how much unfunny eric has whined about me not accepting his vague blanket apology to the board, he never actually apologized to me.

I mean, since we're all really the same person, that's probably only a technicality though.

Noticed RP disappeared again. Pattern confirmed. Even if it's actually a different guy it's been almost impossible to tell them apart by methodology.

Yeah, for all practical purposes they are the same thing. RP might be fractionally smarter, but also fractionally more delusional.

>call the election right
>person who called the election wrong calls me delusional

Since the election I've been keeping an eye on 4chan's /pol/ subforum (which is a disgusting place, don't go there) because I like to understand the shitbag's thinking in their own terms. It has highlighted, to me, how useless it is to appeal to some of these people in moral terms.

4chan /pol/ is surface level stuff. You need to watch 8chan/pol/ /leftypol/ and far right Twitter. Especially twitter. Thats where the magic happens.

Better version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYoou3genk

COMPLETE THE SYSTEM OF GERMAN IDEALISM

Ron Paul's ENTIRE schtick up until this point has consisted of "Don't call us racist!"

Hows that been working out for you so far?

Dunno what to do with these, so here - add-ons that denormalize the term "Rebranded White Nationalism".

http://www.stopnormalizing.com/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/Rebranded White Nationalism-denormalizer/glfmlcifdhfpibfmokbcojfkbgfigeph/related?authuser=1

This is great, and I installed it. I am still astonished by how many people don't seem to get that the alt-right is a white nationalist movement.

"We cant normalize the alt-right"
Meanwhile:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/transgender-children-my-son-told-me-he-was-a-girl/

"Stunning. Brave."

What's your point?

That Purity-Spiraliers care more about tone policing coverage of a completely irrelevant hoverhanding loser but swoon over gushy media depictions of child abuse. By all means guys, keep obsessing over using just the right vocabulary to describe things, we cant let any semantic crimes go unpunished. If you all prove how absolutely disgusted you are with white nationalism over and over again to each other maybe it will eventually accomplish something. And keep up the articles about parents cross-dressing their children. Its completely inspiring and beautiful and totally doesnt make the average person want to join ISIS.