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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:17:19 PM

Title: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
It was brought to my attention this morning that the Facebook group I help admin has disappeared from Facebook. No search using Facebook can find it. I found a link to it on Google, but the link is broken. It says the page may have been removed, but I do not know what for or by whom. If anybody reading this has any information about what happened I would appreciate it if you post in this thread. Also posting this to let other people that admin here from PD know about the disappearance.

The Facebook help desk is useless. It just said the link may be broken or the Group may have been removed. I'm guessing the group was removed by an admin, but I don't know. There are no messages in my inbox about Facebook removing it for content.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 18, 2019, 08:40:10 PM
Well shit. Wanna start a new one?
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:42:42 PM
That seems to be the thing to do. I'm a little bit busy today. Going to go visit my girlfriend in a bit. We can brainstorm here and see where it goes.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 08:44:08 PM
I hate a Facebook and it hates me back, or I'd offer to help. Good luck and all that for now?
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Cramulus on April 18, 2019, 08:53:28 PM
Fucking shit!!!

it was, like, one of the only good ones
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 18, 2019, 08:53:28 PM
Fucking shit!!!

it was, like, one of the only good ones

I feel you Cram. I'm going to miss it sorely. Perhaps we can find some way to make Facebook still a presence, but there will be no replacing it.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: nullified on April 18, 2019, 08:44:08 PM
I hate a Facebook and it hates me back, or I'd offer to help. Good luck and all that for now?

Thanks. Not sure where we go after this, but I like the idea of a new Facebook group to replace it.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
I think you need at least one non-awful Discordian group on FB, so I encourage that.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
The discordian bird watching Society isn't that bad, but it's kind of specialized. The rest are drek. Especially the libertarian one. Perhaps we could start one that represents pd.com more directly. I don't know how that would work out though. I kind of like having this place somewhat cloistered from the public.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 09:25:21 PM
I'm heading out to visit my girlfriend out in the sticks where I don't get internet access. I'll check back sometime late tomorrow. In the meantime if anyone's got any ideas throw them out there. Later folks!
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Telarus on April 19, 2019, 01:38:06 AM
I'm one of the three spags running the Discordianism facebook page (wtf, how did that happen?). Let me know if that is useful.


I like the idea of a more PD(here) focused community page, too.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: altered on April 19, 2019, 01:56:56 AM
I'm torn. I agree with TWJ a bit: it's a bit fart-huffy you could argue, but having a sudden influx of new community members to the forum would result (I think) in more Nobles than Al Qedics. We have little patience for that and it wouldn't be likely to end well I think.

Conversely, encouraging an exodus from the forum when our community is already so whittled down is pretty much a death sentence. This forum going down would be a crime, we have over a decade of drama, stupidity and sweat-blood-and-balls work invested. But if everyone's over on the FB... why's Faust paying?

I feel like the Facebook group should probably be kept separate for those reasons.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: altered on April 19, 2019, 02:01:00 AM
I should clarify: I'm not opposed to bringing in new blood. But I do think that advertising our presence in the open and encouraging randoms on social media to show up is not the right way to do it.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Al Qədic on April 19, 2019, 02:25:32 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 19, 2019, 01:56:56 AM
having a sudden influx of new community members to the forum would result (I think) in more Nobles than Al Qedics
D'aww, I'm one of the good ones? How sweet of ya.  :oops:

But I agree, reviving an FB page could turn out more a curse than a blessing. I'm a bit optimistic in terms of the prospect of new blood to the forum, but you're certainly right in that there will be some amount of assholes and trolls. We'll see what happens as decisions are made, I suppose.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: altered on April 19, 2019, 06:31:22 AM
Oh no, reviving the lost group is fine. Making a PD.com group I'm concerned about as a concept.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
It was brought to my attention this morning that the Facebook group I help admin has disappeared from Facebook. No search using Facebook can find it. I found a link to it on Google, but the link is broken. It says the page may have been removed, but I do not know what for or by whom. If anybody reading this has any information about what happened I would appreciate it if you post in this thread. Also posting this to let other people that admin here from PD know about the disappearance.

The Facebook help desk is useless. It just said the link may be broken or the Group may have been removed. I'm guessing the group was removed by an admin, but I don't know. There are no messages in my inbox about Facebook removing it for content.

Someone posted something that got the page deleted.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: nullified on April 19, 2019, 06:31:22 AM
Oh no, reviving the lost group is fine. Making a PD.com group I'm concerned about as a concept.

Yeah, that's a bad idea.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: LMNO on April 19, 2019, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
It was brought to my attention this morning that the Facebook group I help admin has disappeared from Facebook. No search using Facebook can find it. I found a link to it on Google, but the link is broken. It says the page may have been removed, but I do not know what for or by whom. If anybody reading this has any information about what happened I would appreciate it if you post in this thread. Also posting this to let other people that admin here from PD know about the disappearance.

The Facebook help desk is useless. It just said the link may be broken or the Group may have been removed. I'm guessing the group was removed by an admin, but I don't know. There are no messages in my inbox about Facebook removing it for content.

Someone posted something that got the page deleted.

Considering there are blatantly open neo-nazi pages over there, what the hell was posted? 



A human nipple?
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 19, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
Probably someone said men are trash, or nazis should be punched
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 19, 2019, 09:13:48 PM
I was able to get into the notifications box for the group. There were no content warnings since 2018, and then only two total. I'm not sure it was content that got the group taken down, but if it was I didn't get any notice.

I think it would be best to just try and revive the group. We'll have to start from scratch in terms of membership and content. The original International Discordian Society was that about 3000ish people when it went down. I'm not sure about how to attract more people to the group or set up invites. I have about 20 something discordians that I know of on my Facebook list. A fair number of those are from here active or inactive.

When I was first admining the group from 2015 to 2016 I had to be very heavy-handed about banning people to cut the Disco crap. If I wind up admining a new group I will be equally merciless about it. I just won't tolerate hate speech or much spamming. I also had an unspoken policy against sockpuppet accounts. If an obvious sock puppet tried to join the group I would just block it instead of admitting it to the group.

I am now solidly of the opinion that a pd based Facebook group would be disastrous. I can see linking to content here from time to time, especially things not from the Forum.
Title: Re: The International Discordian Society est. 2015 is MIA
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 19, 2019, 06:48:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
It was brought to my attention this morning that the Facebook group I help admin has disappeared from Facebook. No search using Facebook can find it. I found a link to it on Google, but the link is broken. It says the page may have been removed, but I do not know what for or by whom. If anybody reading this has any information about what happened I would appreciate it if you post in this thread. Also posting this to let other people that admin here from PD know about the disappearance.

The Facebook help desk is useless. It just said the link may be broken or the Group may have been removed. I'm guessing the group was removed by an admin, but I don't know. There are no messages in my inbox about Facebook removing it for content.

Someone posted something that got the page deleted.

Considering there are blatantly open neo-nazi pages over there, what the hell was posted? 



A human nipple?

If Jonathan Bost was around, probably something to do with child rape fantasies.

Otherwise, some edgy race bullshit.