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Yes, but probably a bad day to have any kind of accent.  The Daily Mail is arguing that we should expel all the estimated 3.8 million EU citizens who live here currently

If there's no deal, the UK defaults to WTO organisation rules for imports.  So, that's an automatic 20% on everything from Europe.

In addition to that, the government is preparing for a scenario where transit lorries are backed up in Calais and on UK motorways, as new customs rules come into force.  Due to "just in time" inventory management, shops put in the orders for new produce as needed.  They have giant warehouses out in the countryside, of course, but once those are depleted, we're dependent on trade moving to replenish those stocks, and we won't have it.  And the minute there is a whiff of disruption, the shops will be sold out (see how the UK reacts to snow, by way of example.  Bread and milk just vanish for the next few days).

If there is no deal, sterling will also likely further decrease in value.  So in addition to the 20% tariff, it will cost more to buy food and drink.

And there will likely be civil unrest if this happens.  There will be protestors out on the streets, and counter-protestors looking for "traitors" and "wreckers" to take their anger out on.

Airbus announcement seems to be causing an awful lot of consternation in government.  But why, if everything's going so well?

Have I mentioned I'm buying at least 3 weeks worth of food, water and medical supplies to prepare for Brexit?  I'm talking if there is no deal made by mid-January, I am ordering as much canned food and bottles as I can fit into my flat.

Bash Britain all you like, the way we're carrying on we deserve it.

So, Parliament decided to hand over all power on what the Brexit deal will be, if there is one, to the government.  It's an extraordinary neglect of duty which may only be off-set by the possibility that the government is going to shaft the Brexit ultras in the near future (indications are current concessions are designed to mollify the extremist fringe).

A BBC journalist has also alleged that the UK government has not been entirely cooperative with the strands of the Mueller inquiry here (such as the new allegation that Cambridge Analytica had the Clinton emails a month before Wikileaks released them) and that this is because the UK is holding out on the promise of a free trade deal with the USA.

It's also worth mentioning that this jacket is $39.  When do you think was the last time that Melania Trump wore something worth less than $200?  It was totally about the writing on the jacket, it wasn't simply some kind of completely tone-deaf fashion statement.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 pm »
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"

Exhibit A:

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 21, 2018, 07:43:14 pm »
 :horrormirth: This is what happens when you have a President who gets his info from FOX and Friends and random internet Nazis who tweet at him, instead of the 19 intelligence agencies (with a combined budget in excess of $50 billion) who report to him daily, because the Daily Presidential brief is "boring"

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: June 21, 2018, 07:31:19 pm »
Honestly, what the fuck, Cain.

Feels like you have to bring up a second complaint to HR... about how HR is treating you.

Which would be the second complaint of that kind, since the first complaint was, essentially a) you're making me work alongside the person who broke into my flat, b) and you took 5 months to make a decision on that.

Apparently she's got to do more "investigating", so either HR really fucked up somewhere, management really fucked up somewhere, or this whole incident is about to get turned around on me (in which case, I'm already packed to move, and I go nuclear on them).

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: June 21, 2018, 06:38:10 am »
So, speaking of work...

HR have rescheduled another meeting with me.  Given we've only arranged two meetings thus far, and both have had to be rescheduled (in each case adding an extra week into the process), that is quite impressive.

Oh well, at least this means I can have some beers and watch Egypt vs Uruguay tomorrow.

And....rescheduled again.  No date given this time, just a "I will be in touch with future date".


I was "joking" that this would happen just the other day with my co-worker.

Apple Talk / Re: What's the Matter THIS Time, Bunky?
« on: June 21, 2018, 01:40:53 am »
Oh, and you're gonna LOVE this:

Answering questions from Parliament, meanwhile, British Prime Minister Theresa May said Wednesday that “the pictures of children being held in what appear to be cages are deeply disturbing. This is wrong. This is not something we agree with.”

There's some backroom wierdness going on with the UK lately re: anything to do with the US, so I would take what our PM says with an even bigger grain of salt than usual.

The thinking has been that May has been slow/reluctant to criticize Trump because she believes in the event of a bad Brexit deal, which is increasingly likely, the UK can pull the wool over the eyes of the US and get a far more favourable trade deal than they would with, say, someone competent in the White House (questionable, given how bad the FCO has shown themselves to be thus far, but that's the theory).

HOWEVER, lately there has been something of a shift at the elite levels in the UK, among not just sections of the media, but also the financial and administrative elite.  A lot of people are fearing a "no deal" Brexit, there are growing suspicions that Russian information ops may have been decisive in the vote (and the links between the Brexit vote and Trump campaign are even more entwined than previously thought), there are major security concerns about what Brexit will mean....and while that hasn't had a noticeable effect on the PM's conduct, it is likely exerting pressure somewhere in the background.

Just keep in mind that there is a large part of the Brexit iceberg that isnt obviously visible at the moment, and it's not clear what that means, or how it is affecting the UK's previous indulgence towards Trump.

Apple Talk / Re: What's the Matter THIS Time, Bunky?
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:32:42 pm »
Exactly, this is how it will play out.  Family separation will be ended, which is undeniably good.  However, treating immigrants and asylum seekers as de facto criminals and sticking them in camps in the middle of the desert, will continue.  And so internment itself will be accepted as being OK, and then come 2020 and 2024, the extremists will come out of the woodwork and claim that family separation was too soft, that actually the children should be sent to labour camps.  And then the "moderate" position will be "send children to camps while parents do slave labour" and Serious Pundits everywhere will nod profoundly and pontificate on the moral goodness of this course.

Apple Talk / Re: What's the Matter THIS Time, Bunky?
« on: June 20, 2018, 08:20:27 pm »
I just can't wait until 2024, when Ivanka Trump (running mate: Kanye West) runs on the platform of "more children in camps."

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 20, 2018, 07:31:20 pm »
There was some discussion about it recently, when Guiliani brought it up as a possibility.

The problem is:

1) He can't.  DoJ looked into it in 1974, it would effectively make the President the judge in his own case, which of course isn't legally permissable
2) If he did, it would mean he would have to admit his guilt on collusion and obstruction.  Can't pardon something that didn't happen.  He would also lose all his 5th amendment rights relating to the investigaton, which opens up a can of worms
3) Congress might actually spontaneously grow a spine and impeach him.
4) Pence could just assassinate Trump, then pardon himself under this legal logic.  It's retarded.

Apple Talk / Re: DSPN Presents: World Cup 2018
« on: June 20, 2018, 01:45:23 am »
England will probably get through the group stage, which is more than can be said for Australia.  But I am endlessly amused by England fans who insist on the World Cup as their birthright, despite winning it exactly once, 52 years ago.  So watching England, who are IMO are a consistently overrated team, fail at what should be slam dunk games is extremely satisfying for me.

It needn't be this way, either.  Individually, England has some pretty talented players.  But I don't think I've seen a team more averse to the idea of playing as a team than England.  Compare any footage in the last 20 years of England playing, and then throw up some footage of Brazil, Portugal, Serbia or Germany (probably a better comparison for the overall style of play).  In theory, when playing football, you should be playing against 11 other men, but in the case of England, because everyone's out for themselves, they gimp themselves, and so you only ever have to worry about the one with the ball.

And then they wonder why they can't progress past the quarter finals.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 20, 2018, 01:39:27 am »
There was a recent New Yorker article about how when the children are taken from their parents, the parents are meant to be given some kind of reference number to be able to track their child.  So guess what ICE hasn't been doing?

The article followed the story of just one family simply trying to find out where their daughter was being kept.  They didn't even know where she was.  ICE could confirm that the family tried to enter with a child, and that said child was taken from them, but nothing more.

The potential for child abuse and trafficking is off the charts here.

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