This Discordians thing isn't just End Times Porn. We're not just here to make an ugly situation uglier...We're here to strip away the glitter and makeup and drag the situation out into the light, so that the ugliness is viewed in its true form, to show the average human that their society is akin to a black velvet Auschwitz. After all, if they don't know what it really is, then they can't change it, right?
For this, of course, we are called all manner of horrible shit by stupid people. "conservopagans" & Magicktards, libertariantards, Democrats, Republicans, teabaggers, the DAR (& other racists), and I'm pretty sure the Rotarians have put hits out on us. It is un-American to point out that things aren't utterly perfect, that there might be a flaw or two in our glorious system.
We – at least the portion of Discordians that I feel comfortable speaking for – no longer buy into the left/right false dilemma that has been propagated by the media for the last 65 years or so. "Both sides" are moronic Punch & Judy dolls set up for you to throw rotten fruit at. If at this point you find yourself saying "Well, sure, but at least the <insert political party> isn't AS BAD as <insert political party>, then congratulations: You've bought half the lies, which is all that is required.
And the 3rd party morons? As I've said before, just because they're funnier doesn't make them better. No, the sad fact is that all politics is utter garbage which must be studied without buy-in...Because, though those police may be a social fiction, their pepper spray and billy clubs are just as real as they need to be.
This applies to ALL politics. Dumb fucking anarchists are buying the same shit in a different wrapper. In fact, anarchy is the STUPIDEST form of politics, because it doesn't even TRY to put forth a workable agenda, let alone a system that primates can live with. Also, it was invented by the French, and anyone who has studied their governmental history has no further need of any evidence, whatsoever.
Related to politics is, of course, religion. Religion, as defined by us in The Church™, means "any group of people who believe the same things without considering (or even looking at) evidence that contradicts those beliefs". Religion therefore includes the American Left & Right, all major denominations of all the Abrahamaic religions, Hindus, Zoroastrians, atheists, Bears fans, Free Market retards, communists, Scientologists, television viewers, and people who get their "information" from AM radio. Please note that this is by no means an exclusive list.
All of the above have one thing in common: They steal your Slack™, and then give your formulaic, false-slack pap in exchange. They typically do this by offering you what primates need: An alpha, usually a surrogate one. The character "Jack Bauer" comes to mind, as does the president, the pope, Rush Limbaugh, or anyone else who will take from the masses the burden of thinking for themselves. Typically, this is sold with John Wayne stapled all over it, the only example required to demonstrate this is the recent & laughable "Rick Perry is Strong" ad. Same with the fictional Jack Bauer...He's hard as nails, and has no time for hippie shit like due process & the rule of law. Don't you wish we had a Jack Bauer to cut the crap and do horrible shit to really bad people?
If you answered yes, for any reason – for any crime - then you are essentially no different than a Roman citizen in 50 BCE. You are part of the problem, and you need to REPENT, SINNER, or else resign yourself to a lifetime of walking on your knuckles. Know ye well the signs of the End Times, fools, for is it not written that false prophets shall deceive the multitudes? Is it not written that a sucker is a sucker, and should not be trusted with cash? IS IT NOT WRITTEN INDEED, THAT LO, THERE'S LOTS OF SHIT HAPPENING THAT YOU AREN'T TOLD ABOUT?
Indeed. You merely aren't told. Nothing is hidden from you, because they just have to convince you that many things aren't worth looking at. They're "uncool". "Math is boring!" "That's crackpot shit." "You'll never get a good job without what we have." "There's nothing I can do, anyway." "Watch our special report on the dangers of stepping outdoors, at 9."
People believe that shit, and it is the fucking ROAD TO PERDITION, paved by The Spider with bricks made out of the purest Conspiracy™. Jesus tried to warn you about this shit, and they turned him into the God of Capitalism. "Bob" tried to warn you about this shit, so they assassinated him a half a dozen times. The Occupy geeks are trying to warn you about something. They're not quite sure what it is, specifically, but they know there's something HIDEOUSLY WRONG.
And if a pack of smelly hippies and tragically cool hipsters can figure at least that much out, I expect no less from you. And, not unlike them, I expect you to fucking DO something. But I won't tell you what. Use your fucking head for something more than a glory hole lure, and FIGURE OUT YOUR OWN METHODS YOURSELF. Oh, and then SHUT THE FUCK UP. It's a sad fucking day when 35 year old hipster creepers get more done to fuck the system than we do.
Get the fuck on it.
Or Kill Me.
"THIS IS THE WORD OF "BOB""
Amen.
Quote from: Suu on December 12, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
"THIS IS THE WORD OF BOB"
Amen.
Bob who?
Or did you mean "Bob"?
TGRR,
Knows the Bob you can actually spell isn't worth talking about.
I kinda feel like this was a little bit directed at me (I don't feel attacked, so much as you're pointing out an error in what I said). I won't thread jack here, but I did respond by clarifying in the Obama Blinked thread.
And :mittens:
I meant "Bob".
Sorry, not enough coffee in the fucking world to wake me up, today.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
I kinda feel like this was a little bit directed at me (I don't feel attacked, so much as you're pointing out an error in what I said). I won't thread jack here, but I did respond by clarifying in the Obama Blinked thread.
And :mittens:
There was no connection. I'm blasted off my gourd on pills, and just spewed whatever came into my head.
QuoteYou merely aren't told. Nothing is hidden from you, because they just have to convince you that many things aren't worth looking at. They're "uncool". "Math is boring!" "That's crackpot shit." "You'll never get a good job without what we have." "There's nothing I can do, anyway." "Watch our special report on the dangers of stepping outdoors, at 9."
This really jumped out at me. Everything is right the fuck there. Just waiting to be looked at. You even get a handful of people who slip under the
fence Freedom Protector™ and are
pointing right at it, who are simply ignored. We've gotten to the point where you can go on TV and say any damn thing that comes into your head, and people will believe you, even if they know you're lying.
I can go on stage with a huge banner showing how (for example) Obama cut taxes for 95% of working families and say, "Obama raised your taxes!" to thunderous applause. Because people have forgotten how to look. They are led around by the body part of choice, and smile as the pretty pictures float on by.
It is hardly hyperbole to say that who we vote for on the next
American Idol will have a bigged impact on the economy than who we vote for to be president. Becasue
AI is a
brand, a commodity, something that will change what the average consumer buys, and what they will wear.
fucking Rah!
QuoteNothing is hidden from you, because they just have to convince you that many things aren't worth looking at. They're "uncool". "Math is boring!" "That's crackpot shit." "You'll never get a good job without what we have." "There's nothing I can do, anyway." "Watch our special report on the dangers of stepping outdoors, at 9."
:mittens:
You're so fucking right
I was just having this conversation with a friend of mine. She posted on FB "HERE'S AN IDEA: WHY DON'T YOU TRY #OCCUPYING A JOB FAIR". And I had to talk to her about that crazy BS she just posted. And unlike most online arguments, I actually got her to see my side, which was essentially the point you're making ITT..
they WANT you to get distracted and think of the protesters as "hipsters" or "college kids who majored in womyn's studies" or "scroungers" or "that's just some hippies who want to drum and be shouted at by police" or whatever. They WANT us to say "This stopped being relevant a few months ago" so that the Nov 2012 election can be about Iran and the actual grassroots democratic movement in this country gets swept under the rug like a special interest group or something.
I keep coming back to the question, Why is this Discordia thing relevant in the year 2011? And coming up on 2012, I think we [collectively] need the discordian vibe more than ever.
Because nothing takes the wind out of Grayface like mockery and satire. We need people standing
outside of the false dichotomy, casting doubt on the whole thing.
We need to remind people about Slack
TM. Once you know what Slack is, you're LIBERATED from the false slack treadmill. You realize that you and you alone hold the keys to your own happiness and enlightenment, and if you're going to get there, you need to filter out the noise.
We need to teach people to "see the fnords"... to recognize manipulative language which pulls at your gut and shuts down your brain. Stuff like the "patriot act", and the "defense of marriage act". More people need to learn about Frank Luntz, and spot the linguistic tactics which shape our world. It pisses me off when I see it happening, and I want other people to get pissed off about it too.
Back in the 1960s and 70s, we were in the middle of a cultural upheval, a transition between two societies. And the discordians put their hands on that change -- it's not explicit, but their influence is there. And we need it even worse now.
The
Discordian Moment, to me, is the moment when the season of
Bureaucracy is transcended, and the new season of
Aftermath begins. We are facing towards Aftermath, looking for the handholds and footholds that will let us climb over the security state, the police state, the bipartisan state, the mental state, the Bureaucracy of Modern Living. And we're going to be in Aftermath together. And in the Discordian way of thinking, Aftermath is not utopia, it's not paradise, it's going to have other bullshit about it. But it'll be NEW bullshit, OUR bullshit.
Things are moving quickly now. Wikileaks. Arab spring. Financial crisis. Occupy. Iran? In terms of current events, this is the most exciting year of my life. From my American point of view, it feels like we're in a freefall towards the election in November 2012. The year long countdown has begun. The election will be the medium in which these cultural forces to duke it out. All of the story threads will come together. They will combine in new ways until the things we're talking about today are no longer relevant. Then, we'll stand hand in hand in aftermath.
Roger my friend,
for me, it's time to start giving a shit again (http://www.scribd.com/doc/49099137/PosterGASM-Sparks).
Discordia is always relevant, particularly as a society becomes too complex to function (as is the case with America). Cicero had the right idea, but his methology was flawed. He screamed and he screamed and he pointed at the writing on the wall...He screamed so loud and so long that they cut his hands and head off, and nailed them over the senate door, as an example of what happens when you bother people too much.
Thomas Paine was the same way. He spoke only The Truth, and he was hounded to a pauper's grave for it.
Let the bobbies be martyrs. Let the hipsters play their own "general assembly" control games between sessions of getting gassed and beaten by The Machine™. What we must instead do is point out The Truth without getting caught. Postergasm is an excellent way to do this...In fact, it's one of the BEST ways of doing it. I've been doing it for years, though not under than name.
Flyers left in dentist's offices, the DMV, or any other place where people get bored waiting around, are effective. Getting yourself stomped flat is not.
Besides, people will believe what they read - or see on television - but they won't believe you. There's some very concrete reasons for this, but the fact is that people aren't believeable, but media IS. Even Ben Franklin understood this, a couple of hundred years ago, hence Poor Richard's Almanac.
In particular, posters or signs that look official carry the most weight. I've been bouncing a few around, and as soon as I get the laptop de-virused, I'll post some examples.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2011, 04:43:48 PM
This really jumped out at me. Everything is right the fuck there. Just waiting to be looked at. You even get a handful of people who slip under the fence Freedom Protector™ and are pointing right at it, who are simply ignored. We've gotten to the point where you can go on TV and say any damn thing that comes into your head, and people will believe you, even if they know you're lying.
The best part is, most of what they say aren't necessarily lies. They're just irrelevant distractions. Example: Abortion. Even when discussed by the few rational anti-abortionists, it's an entirely religious issue, there's no proof one way or another that the fetus has a soul, etc. It's a non-issue, like prayer in school, that is used to distract the masses from the fact that they're getting fucked up the ass by diseased bankers, and that NEITHER party has any intention of stopping that buggery.
For something to be The Truth, it has to meet the following criteria:
1. It exists whether or not anyone believes in it.
2. It is relevant to the topic at hand, and
3. It is presented in context.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2011, 04:43:48 PM
This really jumped out at me. Everything is right the fuck there. Just waiting to be looked at. You even get a handful of people who slip under the fence Freedom Protector™ and are pointing right at it, who are simply ignored. We've gotten to the point where you can go on TV and say any damn thing that comes into your head, and people will believe you, even if they know you're lying.
The best part is, most of what they say aren't necessarily lies. They're just irrelevant distractions. Example: Abortion. Even when discussed by the few rational anti-abortionists, it's an entirely religious issue, there's no proof one way or another that the fetus has a soul, etc. It's a non-issue, like prayer in school, that is used to distract the masses from the fact that they're getting fucked up the ass by diseased bankers, and that NEITHER party has any intention of stopping that buggery.
For something to be The Truth, it has to meet the following criteria:
1. It exists whether or not anyone believes in it.
2. It is relevant to the topic at hand, and
3. It is presented in context.
THIS
1000
Also, can I repost the OP elsewhere? Credited fully, of course.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
Also, can I repost the OP elsewhere? Credited fully, of course.
Yeah, sure.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
Also, can I repost the OP elsewhere? Credited fully, of course.
Yeah, sure.
Really amazing piece, I wish I could say something which had more meat, but I seem to be in major derp mode today. I really loved it though.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2011, 06:25:12 PM
I think it started with cardboard, Roger.
People can howl at the mouth about plastic all day long, and don't get me wrong, plastic is a cold heartless product invented to keep chili fresh far far longer than Judge Bean ever intended... but this quiet compartmentalization of society started with the cardboard. Boxes. Labels. Categories. Shelving units. Decimal filing systems. Does anyone remember when we had just ONE box we had to worry about being trapped inside? One big wooden box. It was cramped, humid, and smelled vaguely of farts, but at least we knew that outside was everything else... but now, jesus Roger, the CARDBOARD. The cardboard and the fucking trickery. It's like a system of Matryoshka dolls, one inside the other inside the other inside the other, tortoises all the way down, and now christ, now we don't know which way is which.
But I am a boxer, Roger. I am one lean and cool Sugar Ray Leonard motherfucker, and I am reclaiming the word boxer, for me and everyone else. Not as one who boxes, or creates boxes, but absofuckinglutely NUKES boxes, from the inside. Cardboard and plastic alike. Paul Simon knew the score, Roger: In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade; he carries the reminder of every glove that laid him down. And boy, DO I.
Yep. Like I was saying, society has become to complex, the previously orderly systems now serve only to screw peoples' paperwork up for life. There's no benefit from it, or from what we laughingly call "the free market", but we cling to it because it USED to work, and it's kind of become a religion, you know. Cargo cultists. We hit all the buttons and file all the paperwork, but no planes come in loaded with goodies.
Hell, it's even infecting the Discordians. The ways we used to do things no longer works, because the new & cool has worn off, and everyone waits for the Next Big Thing™, because the previous Coming Weird Times™ showed up, and it was just kinda banal and dirty and evil with a small "e".
Well, the Next Big Thing™ ain't happening unless we work at it, just as the system doesn't work, because nobody works at it.
But I, like yourself, am a boxer. And I will continue to shadowbox the next period of the Coming Weird Times™ as long as I draw breath, even if I have to do it alone.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
I kinda feel like this was a little bit directed at me (I don't feel attacked, so much as you're pointing out an error in what I said). I won't thread jack here, but I did respond by clarifying in the Obama Blinked thread.
And :mittens:
There was no connection. I'm blasted off my gourd on pills, and just spewed whatever came into my head.
Ah. :) Well, it made me think anyway, which is good. I'm a little bit fried right now, but I may have a better response later, when less fried.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
I kinda feel like this was a little bit directed at me (I don't feel attacked, so much as you're pointing out an error in what I said). I won't thread jack here, but I did respond by clarifying in the Obama Blinked thread.
And :mittens:
There was no connection. I'm blasted off my gourd on pills, and just spewed whatever came into my head.
Ah. :) Well, it made me think anyway, which is good. I'm a little bit fried right now, but I may have a better response later, when less fried.
Fried = extra Holy shit. Because your spew gland is locked in the open position.
This is fucking amazing. Black Velvet Auschwitz.
And the thing is, yes. It's all out in the open, just sitting there to be seen if only anybody would look, and there are just a few people out of every thousand pointing and screaming but nobody else will just turn around and LOOK.
So, we have to come up with other ways to get their attention.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:49:00 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
I kinda feel like this was a little bit directed at me (I don't feel attacked, so much as you're pointing out an error in what I said). I won't thread jack here, but I did respond by clarifying in the Obama Blinked thread.
And :mittens:
There was no connection. I'm blasted off my gourd on pills, and just spewed whatever came into my head.
Ah. :) Well, it made me think anyway, which is good. I'm a little bit fried right now, but I may have a better response later, when less fried.
Fried = extra Holy shit. Because your spew gland is locked in the open position.
My urge to spew is totally locked on the aftermath of the Civil War/Redemption, lol. Which I find fascinating, but has only tangential value to the OP. Unless you want a semi-coherent analysis of how it came to be a false dichotomy with specific focus on racism.
It'll unfocus on that and latch onto something else. I've had a couple essays brewing lately, which need some more meat and research before I post them.
Also, yes, love the black velvet Auschwitz.
Quote from: Nigel on December 12, 2011, 06:49:54 PM
This is fucking amazing. Black Velvet Auschwitz.
And the thing is, yes. It's all out in the open, just sitting there to be seen if only anybody would look, and there are just a few people out of every thousand pointing and screaming but nobody else will just turn around and LOOK.
So, we have to come up with other ways to get their attention.
I have recently, in my despair, contemplated violence. Shocking as this sounds - I AM, after all, a man of the cloth - it is in fact how low I have sunk in recent weeks.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 06:55:05 PM
Also, yes, love the black velvet Auschwitz.
Who doesn't like black velvet?
You can get Elvis, Jesus, Elvis AND Jesus (if you're in the Ozarks, they're a little confused), a bunch of fruit, death camps, and clowns. Lots of other shit, too.
As an aside, people tell me that clowns are scary because, you know, "what's under the mask"? But I don't think that's the scary part. What if there
isn't anything under the mask, and that gaily decorated & grotesquely smiling head coming up over the footboard of your bed is
exactly as advertised?
:horrormirth: That image!
The clown. I've never been scared of clowns, but that particular image creeped me the fuck out.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 12, 2011, 07:05:02 PM
The clown. I've never been scared of clowns, but that particular image creeped me the fuck out.
One phobia delivered. That'll be $10.
Chapter 80:
In a place where information is suppressed
and curiosity stifled,
the people will be uncaring, unwise, and not free.
They will rely on tradition as their guides;
They will not make observations,
or try new things,
or experiment,
or play.
They will be suspicious of outsiders
just as they are with new ideas.
Their minds will be as stagnant
as the pond where they dump their garbage.
They are surely as dead as they can be,
though they still draw breath.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2011, 07:17:09 PM
Chapter 80:
In a place where information is suppressed
and curiosity stifled,
the people will be uncaring, unwise, and not free.
They will rely on tradition as their guides;
They will not make observations,
or try new things,
or experiment,
or play.
They will be suspicious of outsiders
just as they are with new ideas.
Their minds will be as stagnant
as the pond where they dump their garbage.
They are surely as dead as they can be,
though they still draw breath.
Yeah, that.
How come every time I get full of rant juice, the damn Chao Ting thingie says it better? :crankey:
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
Plus
we've been working
on it
for about
THREE
FUCKING
YEARS.
However,
there's a good chance
that it will be in print
before 2012
kicks us in the nuts.
Damn,
I think I get
What LHX
was on about.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
:tgrr:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2011, 07:17:09 PM
Chapter 80:
In a place where information is suppressed
and curiosity stifled,
the people will be uncaring, unwise, and not free.
They will rely on tradition as their guides;
They will not make observations,
or try new things,
or experiment,
or play.
They will be suspicious of outsiders
just as they are with new ideas.
Their minds will be as stagnant
as the pond where they dump their garbage.
They are surely as dead as they can be,
though they still draw breath.
Yeah, that.
How come every time I get full of rant juice, the damn Chao Ting thingie says it better? :crankey:
Better? I dunno. Different, yes. Well, yes. Better? Depends on the listener.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
My grocery list didn't look profound. :?
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 12, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
My grocery list didn't look profound. :?
It doesn't?
Huh. Must be doin' it wrong.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rLZ59RzsdWk/TudFz7WAQlI/AAAAAAAAAVw/4mXmOs5i-3Q/s640/11%2B-%2B1)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2011, 12:33:23 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 12, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
My grocery list didn't look profound. :?
It doesn't?
Huh. Must be doin' it wrong.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rLZ59RzsdWk/TudFz7WAQlI/AAAAAAAAAVw/4mXmOs5i-3Q/s640/11%2B-%2B1)
This image should be the front cover of 'Cooking with LMNO'. And like that "Julie & Julia" chick, your next book should obviously be about exploring your kinks.
Shit. Sorry for the threadjack.
QuoteAll of the above have one thing in common: They steal your Slack™, and then give your formulaic, false-slack pap in exchange. They typically do this by offering you what primates need: An alpha, usually a surrogate one. The character "Jack Bauer" comes to mind, as does the president, the pope, Rush Limbaugh, or anyone else who will take from the masses the burden of thinking for themselves. Typically, this is sold with John Wayne stapled all over it, the only example required to demonstrate this is the recent & laughable "Rick Perry is Strong" ad. Same with the fictional Jack Bauer...He's hard as nails, and has no time for hippie shit like due process & the rule of law. Don't you wish we had a Jack Bauer to cut the crap and do horrible shit to really bad people?
It's easier to choose between two things or choose between
all things; it's even easier when one of the two things to be chosen is demonstrated to be BadWrong. A firm handshake, a confident voice, and demonstrating a basic knowledge of the subject matter at hand is usually all you need to set up the false dichotomy. If you're the one making the speech, you control the set-up. You can frame the debate any way you want to. You get to define the terms. You also get to shout how the other guys are DOING IT WRONG. They will
have to respond to your bullshit, and use your bullshit terms. And in using your bullshit terms, their own arguments are now yours to control.
That's why it is written:
Chapter 57
Authority rules through miscommunication.
Wars are waged by pandering to fears.
The world can be won by joining opposites:
Tell people what they want to hear, and they will follow.
Make them think like apes, and they will act like monkeys.
Relieve them of their responsibilities, they will call you wise.
Show them what they fear, they will call you just.
Therefore, the wise spags say,
"Pay no attention to the speeches of Authority,
but listen instead to what the audience is hearing.
And if at all possible,
try to be the one making the speech."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2011, 12:33:23 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 12, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:29:14 PM
line breaks
concentrate attention
& suggest
profundity
:p
My grocery list didn't look profound. :?
It doesn't?
Huh. Must be doin' it wrong.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rLZ59RzsdWk/TudFz7WAQlI/AAAAAAAAAVw/4mXmOs5i-3Q/s640/11%2B-%2B1)
I'm going to start doing mine like that and dropping them in the aisles when the cart's full. Thank you. :lulz:
I like going to peoples houses and adding special things to their grocery lists, which are often kept on the refrigerator.
The thread title gave me nostalgia for a book I really, really must have back in my library.
Your OP is also great, and has given me a lot to think about, so thanks twice.
:mittens: to the OP! Good stuff, there.
Quote from: Nigel on December 12, 2011, 06:49:54 PM
This is fucking amazing. Black Velvet Auschwitz.
And the thing is, yes. It's all out in the open, just sitting there to be seen if only anybody would look, and there are just a few people out of every thousand pointing and screaming but nobody else will just turn around and LOOK.
So, we have to come up with other ways to get their attention.
True enough, but I think the problem is more complex. To me it seems like out of every 1000 people, 1005 of them are pulling your arm, pointing, and screaming in your face. The real problem is that they are all pointing in different directions. Which is bad enough by itself, but add to it that most of the places they are pointing to, the SPIDER-APPROVED places, are so much
shinier and gussied up than the places that they
should be looking.
Mhm. Spiders like people to point at grand story book evils and at the less fortunate, and really, any place that isn't them.
The board has a conspicuous absence of Roger today. :sad: Where is he?
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 12:09:03 AM
The board has a conspicuous absence of Roger today. :sad: Where is he?
He had today off, so we've been gaming since 11. Then he went up to play Civilization 5.
Thatll do it.
Done the same thing myself.
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 24, 2011, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 12:09:03 AM
The board has a conspicuous absence of Roger today. :sad: Where is he?
He had today off, so we've been gaming since 11. Then he went up to play Civilization 5.
:lulz: Explains everything.
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 02:03:38 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 24, 2011, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 12:09:03 AM
The board has a conspicuous absence of Roger today. :sad: Where is he?
He had today off, so we've been gaming since 11. Then he went up to play Civilization 5.
:lulz: Explains everything.
This was followed by naughty shit and some pondering. I have, it seems, discovered the root cause behind the universe itself, and who is to fucking blame.
Rant follows sometime today.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 24, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 02:03:38 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 24, 2011, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Nigel on December 24, 2011, 12:09:03 AM
The board has a conspicuous absence of Roger today. :sad: Where is he?
He had today off, so we've been gaming since 11. Then he went up to play Civilization 5.
:lulz: Explains everything.
This was followed by naughty shit and some pondering. I have, it seems, discovered the root cause behind the universe itself, and who is to fucking blame.
Rant follows sometime today.
Hooray!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 24, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
This was followed by naughty shit
Given the title of this thread, that sounds both sinister and cathartic.
Bump for use elsewhere.
Bump for revamping for 2018.
Bump for use elsewhere.