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You think calling yourself a discordian should place you above criticism?  You can spout whatever nonsense you like, and everyone is expected to sit by and nod in silent reverence at your profundity?

Yes.

Wow, you really have no idea what discordianism is, do you?  Discordianism is about criticizing everything, especially itself.  If you cannot step back and see your own dogmas for what they are, then you are as much a cabbage as anyone.

Who cares?  The PD may have been appropriate for the sixties, but that style of "enlightenment" doesn't land well today.

   You are rejecting something "old" in its own house, for being too old.  You are also rejecting a new religion mod for being too new.

I'm not rejecting PD for being old, I'm rejecting your brain-dead idea that because some book has nonsense in it, that this somehow makes your nonsense worthwhile.

Therefore, yes, Discordians are infallable.

You are obviously fallible (see extensive evidence, above); therefore, you are not discordian.

What if your writing is incoherent to the point of being incomprehensible?  Do you even want to improve your "atrophied forum ability", or is it just an excuse?

Not really.  I may buy a new computer merely to continue this troll argument properly.

Your computer isn't the problem, it's your brain.

I haven't worked in a factory sector,.

Whereof you do not know, thereof you should not speak.

I will address this "im ok, youre not ok" statement.  First of all, I am a Discordian and this is a Discordian forum.

You think calling yourself a discordian should place you above criticism?  You can spout whatever nonsense you like, and everyone is expected to sit by and nod in silent reverence at your profundity?

"Discordians should not talk about things they dont know much about."   The Principia Discordia is full of nonsense the authors didn't know much about,

Who cares?  The PD may have been appropriate for the sixties, but that style of "enlightenment" doesn't land well today.

Principia Discordia is easier with this than other religions, because it doesnt have rules.

Wrong.  Discordianism has rules.  I should know, I'm the Pope.

Here for example, my forum ability is severely atrophied from what it was years ago on other forums, both in my attitude and in the hardware.

You're the only person I've ever met who used "atrophied forum ability" as an excuse for being wrong.

I feel an utter lack of interest in correcting grammar.

What if your writing is incoherent to the point of being incomprehensible?  Do you even want to improve your "atrophied forum ability", or is it just an excuse?

I haven't worked in a factory sector,.

Whereof you do not know, thereof you should not speak.

Also, gerrymandering carpetbaggers playing as Nosferatu clan in the cities.

Sentence fragment.

I apologize for what might appear as forum illiteracy.  I am typing on touchscreen keyboard and have many computer problems.

I'm posting from an ice dimension via 300 baud modem.  altered writes on demonskin parchment using illithid blood and molten tungsten for ink.  Her pen is the screams of a thousand dying suns.

You can hardly ascribe the quality of your posts to the method of entry.

It's all about the waveforms, y'know?

That was really good.

Establishing friendly trade relations with a former enemy or potential adversary doesn't put you in a position to exert a positive influence; it makes you more vulnerable.  It's like having kids because you think it will save the marriage.

The shredder bin is full of indispensable trade contracts.

Never start a proxy war with yourself as the proxy.

They were wiped out, they just weren't fully extinguished

After you first said they were wiped out, you were surprised when when I told you the real population numbers.  But now you're doubling down, and pretending that "wiped out" means something other than "destroyed completely".  Or does "wiped out" have a different connotation in your dialect of English?  Maybe next time say "the population was devastated" instead.

I was unaware of any previous reparations

Speaking of matters of which you are unaware would seem to be a problem.

I didnt think that the process could have dragged on that long so you have me there

Well, at least you admit to being in error in two out of three cases.

The bottom line is the Canadian government made a wholly inadequate token gesture and then had to be forced via legal means to meet its obligation, which I saw as a recent development based on the news story from last week.

That is arguably true.  Perhaps you understand why this is a sensitive issue domestically, and why misinformation might provoke a reaction?

Your specific claims have been that the indigenous were wiped out; that wrongdoing wasn't acknowledged until five years ago; and that the apology was disjoint from any attempt at reparation, adequate or otherwise.

Those claims were false.

I know a fair amount of indigenous people from the Kettle Point reservation, but never heard a single one ever mention receiving any reparation payments... maybe they just don't talk about it to me, since... you know. But some of the houses there sure don't look like they are getting much from the government.

Those are the "Common Experience Payments" in the link I posted.  I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't enough to noticeably improve conditions for the recipients; I was just snapping back at Faust's "as long as there is absolutely no talk of reparation" comment.

There are plenty of real criticisms to be levied at Canada's treatment of the indigenous, without making up new ones.

Why would I read a British Tabloid? I was reading this last week, has there been a scheme for redress available before it?

That's what I just said.  There was a settlement agreement in 2007.  https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100015576/1571581687074
The then-prime minister issued an apology in 2008, not this "5 years ago" you guessed at.

This isn't some new thing that suddenly showed up last week.

Fair, wasnt it was only in the last 5 years they acknowledged the schools taking native American kids, changing their names and completely hiding their heritage, not to mention lots and lots of them died. But they have taken an official stance on that now accepting wrongdoing (as long as there is absolutely no talk of reparation)

What on earth are you talking about?  Survivors of residential schools have been eligible for reparation payments since 2007.  Are you just making shit up, or did you read this in some British tabloid?

Apologies yeah I was reading a more reactionary take on it,Canada is gradually becoming more and more right wing and yes did wipe out the indigenous people.

Not to whitewash the atrocities committed, or anything, but there are 1.8 million indigenous living in Canada, about 5% of the population.  Their cultural history has been decimated, but they haven't been wiped out.

[...]  though I couldn't see it any time soon based on the medical malpractice suit culture it shares with other countries

I'm not sure where you got that from.  Canada's rate of medical malpractice lawsuits is a fraction of the US, and the payouts are much lower.  We have more in common with Europe.  Who are you comparing us to?

Give me back my drugs.   

After people make a decision, they have a predisposition to believing it was the right one (also see: Sunk Cost Fallacy; Brand Loyalty).  I took the road less traveled by, which, in hindsight, was the correct choice, and proves my intellectual and moral superiority.

This type of bias is often present even when the person didn't actively make a decision, and their state is a result of external factors, or an accident of birth (My food preference/skin colour is superior to your food preference/skin colour).

Naturally, this extends to the country of one's birth.  On average, the citizens will show a natural tendency to construct and amplify a narrative that "this" is the best country in which to live, and other countries' way of doing things is evil/wrong/backward/barbaric/inefficient.

If a country's narrative is broadcast widely enough, and loudly enough, they attract immigrants.

I don't know where I'm going with this.

Why, what have you been hearing?

If I didn't know these two so well, I'd assume that someone strapped them to a chair in front of a Tucker Carlson show (he has gone from screeching about this to "liberating Canada" in the last few days).

Yeah, I was thinking this has the same vibe as the American rhetoric about how socialized health care leads to "DEATH PANELS".