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#16
Quote from: Cramulus on July 03, 2019, 01:15:28 PM
Dear Tastycle,

if discordians no here
why me a dog can type???
Fuck, I must be hallucinating again.
#17
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 05, 2019, 07:23:21 AM
 :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 04, 2019, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 04, 2019, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
*some incoherent babble*


Okay, written off.
Come on, I didn't even bypass their points!

Quote from: Norman on July 04, 2019, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 04, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 04, 2019, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
*some incoherent babble*
If you say that the concept of social laws is detached from the physical laws then why, for the love of Eris, do they use the same word?
There is no law that says a word must mean the exactly the same thing in different contexts.
Attend a class in highschool physics, and you will learn that words like "energy", "power", and "momentum" have more rigorous meanings in a scientific context, which sometimes don't reflect how they are used in day-to-day language.
I was pretty good at highschool physics before DRUGS.

lolwut
It's true tho. I got good grades, but then I did a year glued to my bong and used more MDMA and shrooms than my brains, and now all the knowledge about science stuff I couldn't discuss with my druggie friends are gone. I know many more black metal bands tho, so maybe it evens out.
#18
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 04, 2019, 08:24:26 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 04, 2019, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
*some incoherent babble*
If you say that the concept of social laws is detached from the physical laws then why, for the love of Eris, do they use the same word?
There is no law that says a word must mean the exactly the same thing in different contexts.
Attend a class in highschool physics, and you will learn that words like "energy", "power", and "momentum" have more rigorous meanings in a scientific context, which sometimes don't reflect how they are used in day-to-day language.
I was pretty good at highschool physics before DRUGS.
#19
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 04, 2019, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
*some incoherent babble*
If you say that the concept of social laws is detached from the physical laws then why, for the love of Eris, do they use the same word? I'd argue they map onto each other quite well. Molecule with no right to exist would be physically impossible according to the physical laws we choose to use to describe the world. The reality doesn't give a shit if it has to break those laws when they are bullshit.

So an atom, according to the human concept of laws we apply to it, has a right to move around, hang out with other atoms, decay, exchange electrons around, and other shit I'm not aware about because I'm no atom lawyer. Likewise atom has no right to exceed the speed limit of teleport long distances. It still may be able  so that, but won't when the stupid humans making rules for them are watching.

I know this seems to fuck up my first "argument" because now there would be countless prohibited atoms, but chemical weapons wouldn't be among them. Luckily, being clinically stupid has an added benefit that I can subscribe to any legal model of physics of my liking.

(I once watched a movie called Anthropornorphizing cucumbers)
#20
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 04, 2019, 11:16:11 AM
P.S. you are claiming that bad things don't have right to exist when all the evidence points the other way.
#21
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 04, 2019, 06:27:40 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 04, 2019, 12:51:31 AM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 02, 2019, 07:38:53 AM
I've seen people shitpost in facebook. They are not fun at all.
Quote from: Faust on July 01, 2019, 11:30:44 PM
So, how are things? (you, yes you reading this)
I decided that university is for nerds, mainly because they didn't let me in. So now I'm gonna get a real job from trade school. How does one convince to itself and ones around it that it's actually unhealthy to be intellectual. Do I need  become an unronical Pol Pot fangirl or something to save my ego?

Nothing wrong with the trades, but there is nothing more dismal and banal than a tradesman griping about college kids.

Yep. Aside from the fact that college give you formal education in the basics of a range of subjects before you specialize, it makes you defend your ideas. It's not the only way to get those skills but if your GPA is on the line it's going to motivate you to do it. It also hopefully makes one realize that you're scratching the surface of subjects and respect expertise.

Society needs both tradespeople and academics.
I'm thinking about going to uni after getting a trade. Then I could shout at people for being detached from the reality.
#22
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 04, 2019, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 04, 2019, 01:28:49 AM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 03, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
2. I'm not sure about that superlative buddy :lulz: Are you really gonna award me the title of evil overlord for just wandering into morally questionable side of the argument?
Not every Nazi was Hitler.  There is a wide spectrum of "the most horrible monster" between "evil overlord" and "garbage wrapped in skin."

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3. I'm not gonna google your fancy terms.
"raison d'etre" = "reason for existence" and you didn't want to use the understandable form of the term because..?

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6. No, I didn't say sarin has a right to begin it's existence.
Do you know what "sophistry" is, or do I have to define that for you, too? This is the reason intellectuals cannot reach people.

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7. Stems from the idea that everything has a right to exist. Imagine if it didnt.
Rights are a social construct, not a physical one.  A pebble on the road has neither rights or obligations.  If I say that I think humans have the right to free speech, then I necessarily endorse free speech.  If you say chemical weapons have a right to exist, then you endorse their existence. Social rights follow social laws, physical rights follow physical ones. I was antropomorphizing all the way. I even kept referring Sarin as they.

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8. If sarin cannot manufacture itself that's its own choice. We gave it a chance tho.
What kind of amoral psychopath would give sarin a chance to exist? They wanted to end the war quick to minimize the losses.

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9. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with sarin is a good guy with sarin.
There are no good guys with sarin, because it is already illegal for mortals.

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10. You either keep mistaking stupidity to malice or you really want to make me question my morality. Or something entirely different.
So which is it?  Are you stupid, or malicious? ...nah, I'm just kidding.  I already know. I may be braindead, but my nose still works. You stink.

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If ya wanna take this off the streets, I have a comfy cellar. PM me for the address.
...wait...am I talking to a teenage boy?  Eww. I have handcuffs and shit.

You also forgot the 1.. I was especially proud of that one.
#23
Quote from: Pergamos on July 03, 2019, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 02, 2019, 07:38:53 AM
I've seen people shitpost in facebook. They are not fun at all.
Quote from: Faust on July 01, 2019, 11:30:44 PM
So, how are things? (you, yes you reading this)
I decided that university is for nerds, mainly because they didn't let me in. So now I'm gonna get a real job from trade school. How does one convince to itself and ones around it that it's actually unhealthy to be intellectual. Do I need  become an unronical Pol Pot fangirl or something to save my ego?

You could always cultivate an attitude of disdain toward the institutions of indoctrination, while still pursuing your own intellectual improvement independently.
My motivation has been lacking since I blew my brains with various chemicals. That's totally on the institution though.
#24
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 03, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 03, 2019, 02:26:06 PM
1.Chemical weapons (of the lethal type) are brutal, horrific, inhumane.  (Let's not pretend we're talking about pepper spray and tear gas in this context.  Not that I'm a fan of those, either...)
2. Only the most horrible monster would believe that chemical weapons should exist.
3. Sarin's only raison d'etre is as a chemical weapon.
4. Sarin is a molecular compound.
5. Sarin only exists if someone synthesizes it.
6. The unqualified statement that all molecules have a right to exist is equivalent to claiming that Sarin should be synthesized.
7. You have claimed all molecules have a right to exist.
8.Therefore, you have claimed we should manufacture Sarin.
9. Therefore, you are a proponent of chemical weapons.
10. Therefore, you, personally are a horrible monster.
1. Yep. Imagine if they weren't.
2. I'm not sure about that superlative buddy :lulz: Are you really gonna award me the title of evil overlord for just wandering into morally questionable side of the argument?
3. I'm not gonna google your fancy terms.
4. Really? For me sarin is a fluffy little creature that goes around eating peoples toenails.
5. And stops existing the second someone stops synthetizing it?
6. No, I didn't say sarin has a right to begin it's existence.
7. Stems from the idea that everything has a right to exist. Imagine if it didnt.
8. If sarin cannot manufacture itself that's its own choice. We gave it a chance tho.
9. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with sarin is a good guy with sarin.
10. You either keep mistaking stupidity to malice or you really want to make me question my morality. Or something entirely different.

If ya wanna take this off the streets, I have a comfy cellar. PM me for the address.
#25
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 03, 2019, 09:10:58 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 03, 2019, 04:37:51 AM
:kingmeh:
Why would I want to fit into your frame of valid answers? I bet you have already built heurestics to counter each of the 4 options you presented. That discussion would've been terminally boring, as we've both wandered down that path.

Anyways, what makes Sarin dangerous is that they are kept locked in containers and they become angry and never evolve into less harmful substances. Saying Sarin is bad is like saying strong interaction is bad because it can kill people.

I'm not sure what you are arguing, but you are wrong and you smell.
#26
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 03, 2019, 03:27:03 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 02, 2019, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: TastyCle on July 02, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 02, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
Sarin is a synthetic molecule, which is used in chemical warfare.  It does not appear to occur in nature, nor does it appear to have any use other than killing people horribly.

Do you believe that this molecule, Sarin, has a right to exist?
Well at least Sarin knows what they want to do when they grow up.
#27
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 02, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 02, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Sarin.
Even prions have NOAEL, our biology is just noninclusive.
#28
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: DRUGS
July 02, 2019, 06:34:55 PM
Drugs are good. I believe every molecule has the right to exist. If someone can trick you to OD on potatoes without suffering major consequenses  for taking too much immorality you MAY have deserved it.
#29
I've seen people shitpost in facebook. They are not fun at all.
Quote from: Faust on July 01, 2019, 11:30:44 PM
So, how are things? (you, yes you reading this)
I decided that university is for nerds, mainly because they didn't let me in. So now I'm gonna get a real job from trade school. How does one convince to itself and ones around it that it's actually unhealthy to be intellectual. Do I need  become an unronical Pol Pot fangirl or something to save my ego?
#30
So, where is everyone? Legends tell that once the place was thriving and filled with actual people. For some reason i keep refreshing the page like this was some social  media. Does anything happen like, ever?