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in reference to the topic i started in the PD section -- http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=313404#313404

-- here is some more food for thought



most if not all systems of 'belief' or knowledge have a central text or scripture that is referred to by those who follow the system

all of these scriptures follow the same format

1 - a detail of 'history' and how things came into being
2 - a series of suggestions of how to approach 'life'
3 - a suggestion of what the future has in store



the only differences between the books are

1 - the amount of detail
2 - the metaphors used
3 - the tone used by those who assembled the literature




all books are maps
all these maps represent the same place
what we are witnessing here is that some maps are better than others
and will help you better navigate the territory


but
the best approach is to take as many maps into account as possible

add on if you have any insights

if they will ever come out

tentatively --

- breaking the law (of fives)
-- in which the law of fives is revisited and applied to some other modes of thought
-- influenced by (and a possible remedy to) the continual nit-picking and semantic disagreements
-- also influenced by an attempt to account for the recent 'pagan' discussions about whimsical beings and invisible deities


- letting discordians off the hook
-- after an annual revisit of sun tzus art of war
it has become apparent that everybody here is smarter than they thought
-- the lack of tangible efforts (according to the art of war) is strategically advantageous
-- who/whatever it is that discordians are actually up against
is actually struggling harder than discordians
and has the unfortunate goal of accomplishing the impossible



i think there was a third one
but
i cant remember right now




it is possible that this post may have to suffice for the actual rants
because it doesnt look like they are going to ever make it out


at the least
i had to let these couple of nuggets of thought out
just in case i get hit by a bus or helicopter at some point today












and also
because i love you

that there is a difference between trying to build something in chaos
and
using chaos to build something

dear LHX

you glorious machine
how are you doing?

here are some tips to get you thru the next little while because we love you so much -


anything worth having on this planet can and will be repeated somewhere

that means if you fuck anything up
we will bring you back to give it another shot

we dont really need that many people on this planet to make the transition from here to there
so
dont take anything personally -
just know that we have everything looked after



and we know you have been wondering lately about what is going to happen to all of the cities
just remember this -
eventually
the areas where the cities are now
will be the most fertile locations
for the same reasons why regions near volcanoes are so fertile

cities are very nutirient dense and will eventually make great fertilizer


keep doing your thing you charming animal

with love

you-know-who

monitors
books
lights
signs
make the eyes numb

smoke
perfume
drugs
make the nose numb

sirens
music
voices
make the ears numb

plastic
metal
make the skin numb

sugar
salt
spice
chemicals
make the tongue numb

but
this damn brain keeps on going





rats

the god ganesh was known to be able to get thru anything
he was often shown riding a rat
because
the rat is said to be able to chew its way thru any obstacle

throughout its life
the teeth of a rat never stop growing
which is one of the reasons that they are always chewing on something
-- no cavities --



LHX - 2 parts

3 parts





and just remember

its all love

a lot of people have been wondering where you have been
and
how come you havent been around in awhile


it makes us glad to see that you are still doing your thing




i hope it wasnt something that they said that made you not come around any more
but
if it was
i just want you to know that they didnt mean it


also
now that you are here
could you give me one of those massages?



and maybe if you have any watermelon?

you still look good

maybe a little worn down
but
we are all a little worn down

look
just because the universe wants you dead
it doesnt mean that you have to be worried


when you disappear
we will all wonder what happened to you
tho
it will only be for a short while




we will say
'i wonder what happened to (your name here)'
and
'has anybody heard from (your name here)'

and
eventually
we will move on to other things

other discussions

while you are busy being not here




like that cool breeze on the hot day that come from who-knows-where
and
went to i-have-no-idea





or better yet
the breeze that came when you didnt even realize you could use a nice breeze


or maybe EVEN BETTER
the wind on a COLD day that is so bitterly cold it makes your face numb
and causes you to wonder about the nature of life
and leads you to more insight






regardless
i am getting carried away

the main points are
the universe wants you dead
but
we still love you
and
i could go on for hours with metaphors








even without food

since you guys are a fountain of insight -


the strangest things result when i am working on things
if you read my latest composition
it actually came while i was brain storming ideas for science fiction involving professional wrestling

but
thats beside the point

the question i have is this -
is there a difference between ABSTRACT art
and
art that uses the power of SUGGESTION?


personally
i hate abstract art - the type that borders on nonsense
but
the thing that seems to separate 'art' from a straight up essay
is the use of metaphor and suggestion
rather than the use of blatant messages

does anybody have any insight on this?

i am thinking about it and it is making my head hurt

it may even be a retarded question

thanks

bedlam surrounded the artist before he even knew he could be an artist

all he knew was
1 - he seemed to be coming to his senses
2 - nobody seemed to have any idea what they were doing
and
3 - there was a big gun laying on the ground

as he bent down to look at the gun
he saw there was a note attached to it

the note read
'if you find this gun
use it'

i was visited by the god of creativity last night

yes

the god that created creativity

he was with the goddess of creation

who
together
look after the whole process of bringing things that werent there before



this was shortly after i had received the green-light from this very forum to pursue the writing of bad science fiction

being the type of person who is unable to put forth any effort into things
i had a dilemma
- how do i create stories without effort? -

so
i took to the streets

with a pocket full of raw carrots and another pocket full of brazil nuts
i walked
and walked and walked and walked
looking for the answer to my dilemma

i walked to the bookstore
and picked up several books to find if there were some clues
some sort of inspiration

i grabbed the latest book by henry rollins
i grabbed a book called TTYL by some woman who wrote a book about teenage high school drama in the form of Instant Messenger conversations
i grabbed a picture book of the planet earth
i grabbed a graphic novel called Chunky Rice

all of the books were novel
but
ultimately
they all made me want to vomit

except for the planet earth book
which included pictures of volcanos and ice burgs and no images of people
(i dont really have anything against people - just not too exciting anymore)

i seemed to be falling asleep at the bookstore
so
i decided it would be best to leave before i was 'politely escorted' for 'overstaying my welcome' by the 'kind and helpful employees' of the 'fine establishment'

it was cold as fuck last night in toronto
it felt like my eyes were being frost bitten
so
it may have been hallucination
or
some sort of effect of brain-numbness
but
the two immortals appeared to me

first in the middle of the intersection at eglinton and bathurst which i had been jay-walking and was wondering why those two people were just standing there
and then
further down the sidewalk
they caught up to me and stopped me

god -- excuse me
me -- sup? playa?
god -- what are you thinking about right now?
me -- uhhh i was actually wondering why you and your woman were just standing there in the middle of the road staring me down
goddess -- no - he means in general - whats on your mind?
me -- i am trying to figure out how to write bad science fiction without effort
god -- oh boy - so it is him
me -- ...
goddess - i told you - you can tell by the retarded look on his face
me -- you guys are strange
god -- you mean you arent gonna react to her saying you look like a retard?
me -- do you want a carrot?
goddess - its definitely him

she took a carrot

me -- can we continue walking? the cold aint that bad if you stay on the move
goddess -- sure

we continued walking

god -- we have come to reveal the everlasting fountain of creativity that will allow you to write bad science fiction without any effort whatsoever
me -- fuck - that would really help me out right now
goddess -- see - its not too hard - most of the people we reveal this to like to call it a form of pre-editing
me -- pre-editing?
goddess -- yeah - its like setting up a pre-defined format - and then you just let the ideas flow - and you will know before-hand that every idea that comes out will be viable
me -- damn - that kind of cheapens the whole thing doesnt it?
god -- well - if you enjoy the frostbite and the fruitless searching - we can just take off

i thought for a while

no
i actually dont enjoy the fruitless searching very much
and i had been searching that day
and these two attractive people were offering what seemed to be a type of fruit

me -- okay - lay it on me

goddess -- indecisive little fuck

the god shrugged his shoulders and gave a 'dont-ask-me' look


the goddess handed me a paper
and then
seemingly out of no where
- though he prolly just pulled a quick u-turn -
a taxi pulled up
and the god and goddess of nothing-to-something-ism got in


and the taxi took off to outer space
- no joke -

the paper was a list of instructions titled
'how to be endlessly creative'

the list went as follows -

****************************************
1 - begin with some idea of 'heaven on earth'
2 - populate it
3 - make the majority of the population there ignorant of what they are and where they came from
4 - fill all these gaps with tricks and things that cannot be verified with the eye
5 - to make sure you have no loose ends - keep track of how you have made your people ignorant and all the fake things you created
*** note here that the more work you put in here - the more you can make your people scramble
6 - create some sort of looming threat that would 'make the people disappear'
or
the idea of some 'better place to be' than where they currently are
7 - at this point the stories should start pouring out as all you have to do is observe as you introduce your population to the 'threats' and watch them search for the 'promise'


additional ingredients
to make it 'science fiction'
all you have to do is create things that look different from the people

to make it 'comedy'
all you have to do is create outcomes that dont make sense

to make it 'shocking'
all you have to do is double-up on the outcomes and introduce things late in the story that were not previously mentioned

mix and match as you like

remember - good content has the power to turn bad style into good style
******************************************

i got home and i didnt sleep much

today i went to the library to use the computer and tell you all what happened


i exaggerated on some of the story tho
there was no 'god'
it was actually two women
and they had a pet with them

but
i wont say what it was

just kidding

and the last american eagle got shot

after having not read the newspaper consistently for about 3 years

it is proving to be a treasure chest full of shit

today
i read about how technology advances seem to be affecting so many - or all - industries that obtain their income from broadcasting information

the whole music download situation
the fact that newspaper editorials are being found online
the alternative media streams of blogs
wikipedia
etc
etc
etc


which is making me wonder if information has any value at all

my hunch is no




what MAY have value tho
is the presentation of the information
- that which separates something 'entertaining'
from something which serves only to deliver a message



with the increasing presence of these alternative and instantly available forms of communication
do any of the old-standard forms of selling information stand a chance?

[why do i have this body?]

yeah

so

up until yesterday - i felt good about this maybe logic shit

but
the big problem with it seemed to be that it made everything ambiguous or mysterious


ladies and gentlemen and mutants and other creatures -
that has all changed



i found myself at the book store where they sell coffee and baked goods
in the philosophy section
when i decided to translate philosophical questions into maybe logic


i spotted this book called 'the meaning of things'
so
i decided to aim at the most basic of the questions

what IS the meaning of life?

i took me some time to translate it into maybe logic

but

the best i could translate it to is something along the lines of -

why do i have this body?

and - for those who may not be fans of the concept of property -

what do i do with this body?
or
what do i use this body for?


this is one instance where the use of maybe logic took something vague and turned it to something much more specific

-- and a question what actually seem like it might have an answer

please
insights
please

[IS]

after reading about maybe logic and e-prime
it seems that there is suggestion that perhaps not only is the verb 'to be' not good to use
but
it may in fact be a fallacy altogether



as in - it may be inherently contradictory to say this IS that


has anybody here read into any of this e-prime or maybe logic business?



if the language we use to communicate really does reveal itself as faulty as it seems
then perhaps maybe logic goes a long way in determining how the mess developed on this planet




adherance to maybe logic immediately puts to rest nearly all causes of conflict that are known
there does not seem to be any room for opinions in maybe logic
and as such
no room for differences of opinion



the biggest drawback that i can see regarding maybe logic
would be that it could prove difficult to come to an agreement to get certain things done
(basically anything political)
but
that may not be such a bad thing



maybe logic also lends itself to all the new age folks hellbent on crowley - aquarius - the mayans - 2012 - ufos - etc etc etc

as all of these can be summed up with a resounding maybe



does anybody have any insights on e-prime or maybe logic?

the shit is looking pretty damn good from where i am sitting right now

[tricknology]

****************************************
When Yacub reached the age of six years he was playing in the sand one day with two pieces of metal, two pieces of steel, at which time he discovered what is known as the law of magnetism: that unlike attracts and like repels. Two objects that are alike repel each other like two women repel each other, but man and woman attract each other. Unlike attracts and like repels. Yacub discovered this. So Yacub knew that all he had to do was make a man unlike any other man on this Earth and because he would be different he would attract all other people. Then he could teach this man a science called tricknology, which is a science of tricks and lies, and this weak man would be able to use that science to trick and rob and rule the world. So Yacub turned to his uncle and said, "When I grow up I'm going to make a man who will rule you." And Yacub's uncle said, "What can you make other than that which will cause bloodshed and wickedness in the land?" And Yacub pointed to his head and said," I know that which you know not." Yacub was born with a determined idea to make this man because it had been predicted 8400 years prior to his birth that he would be born to do this work. So he was born with this idea in him, and when his uncle realized that Yacub was the one about whom it had been prophesied, his uncle submitted. Yacub went to school in the East; he studied the astronomical sciences, mathematical sciences, and the germination of man. He discovered that in the black man there are two germs. IN the black man there's a brown man. In the black man, or the black germ, which is a strong germ, there's a weak germ, a brown germ. Yacub was the first one to discover this and Yacub knew that by separating that brown one from the black one, and then by grafting the brown one from the black one so that it became lighter and lighter, it would eventually reach its lightest stage which is known as white. And when it got to that stage it would be weak, and because it was weak it would be susceptible to wickedness. And then Yacub could take that weak man that he made and teach him how to lie and rob and cheat and thereby become the ruler of all the rest of the world.

*************************************

maybe?

how
exactly
would somebody go about 'giving up' in this society if one were so inclined to 'give up'?

just out of curiosity

we see some bad shit in the future

we can talk about it
and we generally see what the factors involved are / will be

but
it isnt imminent

and therefore we suffer from a collective lull of
'something may happen between now and then'
'ill be ready for it when it comes'
'i wouldnt know what to do or where to start'


although it may seem uncomfortable for some
(me included)
this is okay

it would be wrong to expect anything else

we have nothing to compare the current situation to



and so we will wait
until we are almost physically dead
and/or gripped by poverty
and/or abandon(become abandoned by) everybody we know
to 'do something'


and it probably wont be too late
but
it will hurt a lot



a lot of pain
and mental anguish between now and 'then'



even if the 'truth' were to present itself right now
or
the 'right' course of action would make itself known

very few people would accept it because it would look like shit







i apologize for using 'we'
but
i dont know how else to refer to myself and all the other people

in reference to the other thread:

article about online access to everybody
$100 computers
etc

Q: Given that currently the global production of laptops is under 50 million, can the 100 dollar laptops be built and shipped in the quantities that Negroponte is promising -- 100 million to 150 million every year by 2007?

A: The computers have to be manufactured in those kinds of numbers if the price point of 100 dollars is to be achieved. It costs as much to make one microchip as to make one million microchips. The cost lies in setting up the manufacturing infrastructure. The more they build, the cheaper they can make the computer. This computer will change the global laptop market because of the scale of its production.

and the rest of the article:

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=31103

[insane]

the machine relies on being able to control people

the machine is driving people insane thru entertainment and drugs (of all sorts - mental / physical)

insane people cannot be controlled


thus
the machine contributes to its demise
and
the demise of the machine is imminent

and messy

here is a list of things that it may be useful to come to terms with to help improve your chances of a clean escape from the machine from .000000000001% to .001%

1. get rid of all property
2. overcome any need for privacy
3. overcome any problems with solitude
4. overcome any feelings of dependency
5. overcome any illusions of control
6. learn about food and nutrition
7. develop a tolerance to dirt and grime
8. become host to as many viruses as possible
9. develop an appetite for heavy metals
10. keep refining a list of things to come to terms with




(love will guide you through)

[none]

that old saying 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' holds weight
and implies we must communicate


that old saying 'familiarity breeds contempt' holds weight
and implies we must have a way of avoiding communication


the intranet has demonstrated the only system of communication that actually works

we call it posting on forums


it is the one commonly used method of communication that highlights the amount of obligation that any two people truly have toward one another

and that is none


you can read posts and never post
you can post things and never come back to see what happened after you posted
you can post ideas as a way to get feedback
you can post for the fuck of it

it is the only medium which gives you complete control regarding when you are going to communicate
and
when you are going to receive communication


it is also the only reason to have hope that it is possible for more than one person to co-exist on this planet for the long term


the abuse of communication that we commonly experience is horrifying

there are many circumstances these days where 'polite' conversation really exposes itself as phony
and
for that reason
obsolete

'hi how are you?'
'how is everything?'
'how about the weather?'

enough
please
enough

gossip
details of the work day
salespeople who have the right to rape your ears at any moment
opinions opinions opinions

these are all fine if you WANT to hear them
but
broadcasting bile and forcing people to have to deal with it is foul

if i went outside and started broadcasting this shit at people - i would be ignored and/or beaten - FOR GOOD REASON (just another crazy fuck)


words fill people like bullets fill guns
the tongue has often been compared to a weapon

the answers seem fairly simple - either people become more responsible with their words
or
we use a medium of communication that reduces the volatility involved in communicating

misunderstandings are much easier to resolve when there is a physical (and not mental) barrier between the people involved

communication is a process
forums allow the process to fully take place better than live-action exchanges

maybe it is the only way for people to REALLY communicate

if we were all forced to have these discussions on a regular basis in person - i got a hunch it would have got real messy a long time ago

i will now STFU

dear mr teh machine administration what has control of determining my mortal fate

how are you doing?

this message is actually directed to the machine as a whole
but
i know not everybody in your system will get to read it



i would like to say many bad words to you
but
i will not do that

because it might throw you off
and it might affect the chances of you actually paying attention to what i am going to tell you



you are fucked
you have nearly reached your peak
but
have done nothing to make sure that you can maintain your position
your leverage in the situation is slipping
and
the mechanisms you use for applying pressure on people have become faulty
in that they dont always work anymore


see
down here
some people have come to understand such things as 'chaos' and 'disorder'
and have learned to find comfort in these things
as opposed to the illusions of control that used to provide those moments of temporary peace
in fact
it has come to the attention of some that this 'chaos' and 'disorder' is really a back door which leads to 'eternal salvation'
which runs directly contrary to your fear-generating tactics


but
since you still seem willing to deprive people of food
and to bother and pester for no apparent reason
and to continue making and enforcing rules that inhibit movement

i just wanted to let you know that you are fucked
your presence is not appreciated or necessary anymore
and nobody - except you - likes what you are doing


so
you can continue to try and solve your problems by killing things
including me
but
just be aware that we got your number
and we are going to fuck you up
and if it isnt me
then it is going to be somebody what LOOKS JUST LIKE ME when you have your eyes shut




if we decide to keep a written language after you go down
you will probably be represented as a square with a diagonal line through it
or something else suggestive of 'that big piece of shit that isnt around anymore because it had to be put down'
but
i cannot show this symbol to you right now because your keyboards are incompetent

you will be buried in the air

you dumb piece of shit

much love

being a part of a self-destructive society which claims to be something else is not enjoyable

especially with solutions to this apparent 'problem' in plain sight
the solutions that nobody wants


sustainability has been identified as something to 'strive' for
strange
since this society exists on a planet what sustans itself


somewhere early on
'production' got confused with 'progress'

and of course
consumption rises to match production
("smoke em if you got em")
and now
this society seem more like a junky trying to justify getting a fix
instead of a 'civilization' what give a shit about longevity


truth is
everybody wants to live in a sustainable society on their (crack fiend) terms
but
nobody wants ANY PART of the sustainability what is already there



we came from the dirt
but
we dont love the dirt anymore

the implications of this arent hard to see

at this point
any end would be a good end



like a long movie
(at a theater that you cant leave)
that was intesting for a while
but
is painfully lingering

any end would be a good end



it just aint relaxing anymore

every scene is predictable
the bad guys are retarded and poorly scripted
the good guys are gonna get pummeled and lose numbers
but
they will limp to a pre-determined victory

the seats were comfortable when you got in
but
now the cushion is worn down and you cant shift your position

its getting stuffy

and every time you try to talk to somebody
you get told to shut up and pay attention to the movie



LHX
enough metaphors to drown holy books

you dumb fuck

what?
youre surprised?

what did you want me to do?
yeah
now you say i should have stopped you

but
you wouldnt listen before


i tried to warn you
actually fuck that

i DID warn you
but
you gave me that look

- come on
lets see you flash that look now

show it to me
where is it?

what do you mean you dont know what im talking about?

give me the 'theres no way thats gonna happen' look
the 'i know better' look
the 'everybody else cant be wrong' look

you dont got it in you anymore?


stupid stupid fuck
too numb to react to the pain hunh?
all you can do is watch it?

watch the pain from the inside

that tingling feeling?
yeah
see - thats your soul
right now its shaking your body off like a cheap piece of shit suit


how come youre not looking at me like im crazy now for talking that soul shit?
hunh?
you feel it now dont you?


you dumb fuck
just go to sleep

ill take care of the rest

just sleep

"dead seriously even though we smilin'
and thats how we like it"
- keith murray - intro to 'the most beautifullest thing in this world'


- introduction -
the days of entertainment are over
you have lost your innocence toward entertainment
and can be entertained only as much as you are carrying out your work

i notice that being convinced into a course of action is simply a matter of effectively trapping yourself into NOT being able to do any alternative


- part 1 - trapping yourself -
people seem to want one of two things
1. to be left alone to relax and do as they please
or
2. to be the champion of planet earth and the universe


unfortunately
for those who want to be left alone
they have been and will continue to be interrupted by those who want to be the universal champions

and thus
they are called into action and are forced to push themselves to become the champs simply in order to get all the knuckleheads to leave them the fuck alone

coming to terms with this is an effective way of climbing out of the bottomless pit of why-me-wishful-thinking
and approaching your days accordingly


- part 2 - what do you do for a living? -
since we have a thing called 'the inevitable'
it is wise
and the sign of a true champ
to encourage this 'inevitable' to hurry up

thru communication media we have the ability to tarnish and ruin all forms of entertainment
this can be done in a few ways
1. the creation of mass amounts of abstract bullshit nonsense to clog up and flood the airwaves
2. create entertainment that is so good that it becomes too good (in the 'more fun than you really wanted' category)
3. stampeding through safety-zone-support-group type entertainment outlets (internet forums or any live platform) and making it uncomfortable and no longer useful

- part 3 - are you fucked? -
maybe
probably
i am suggesting that the smart money is on ruining other peoples entertainment AS YOUR MAIN PRIORITY (aside from eating and feeding dependents)
this will force people to look for alternatives
and then when they find an alternative
wreck that too
until they too are trapped into acknowledging that this place has become what it has become
and there is no escapism
until there is only escapism

fuck the confusion angle
changing signs and rearranging things to make your fellow man do a double-take is not even a blip on the radar screen
actually
they are a waste of your time

it would be just as useful to rearrange your own shit and then try to forget

an ideal course of action would be one that results in something compelling yet unenjoyable and results in something bad coming to an end

medication
but not synthetic

LHX
has unenjoyable down
needs to work on compelling

so

1.
once we identified the existence of something inevitable
(namely the END)

2.
the next step was to see what form that inevitable is going to take
disaster
disease
conflict
confusion
hunger
horsemen

basically
the fact that nutrition in all its forms will become scarce
and the surface of this planet will not be very conducive to life

this state of affairs will creep in slowly and it will not be obvious (as in: it already happened)
and it will make us very irritable toward one another

3.
the step after that becomes a little more urgent for some folks
it is the question why?
because this 'inevitability' does not look very comfortable
and we get the hunch it could be avoided

through some investigation we discover -

the default approach that most people take to 'life' is

a) to find something to do that does not immediately feel self-destructive
nor does it look like it will be self-destructive in the near future

b) when encountering pressure
to avoid the immediate pressure by any means necessary even if it includes putting more pressure on some body/thing else
or
accumulating more pressure for you yourself to deal with at a future point

examples of shifting / relocating / accumulating pressure is:
anything that involves a spray
anything that involves smoke
anything that involves a raised voice

4.
after figuring out that we create our own demise by being ignorant
the next step is easy to determine
but
hard to execute

it involves
-avoiding ignorance at all costs
-watching 'tragic' things happen which appear as tho they could have been prevented
-refusing dependency on anything other than self and and a higher something
-acknowledging that if this was a movie that you will prolly play the role of the dude that everybody thought was a villain
but
by the end of the movie it turns out he was the good guy after all
-the annoying realization that deception is absolutely everywhere
-the annoying realization that you can only figure out who was trustworthy AFTER the point at which it could have been useful to know who was trustworthy

once all of this has been resolved
it is time for action

which is the subject of rant number 2

principia discordia and principiadiscordia.com issues

1. the principia discordia
the principia discordia is a cute book and can provide material to people who seek to defend themselves from the world intellectually

as such
it also presents ideas that people can align themselves with and create some sort of communal feeling about

2. real discordians
my two cents (which are prolly just blank pieces of copper) on the 'real discordian' issue is that a real discordian is either
a) somebody who actually wants to be called a real discordian
or
b) somebody who doesnt want to be called a real discordian but is a real discordian by somebody elses definition

my definition of a real discordian is unclear but it would likely have something to do with discord

3. alternate accounts
a) alternate accounts for the purpose of ruining the internet-entertainment-experience for others is good
b) alternate accounts for any other purpose such as
-having fun
-being cute
-being bored and having nothing else to do
-because everybody else is doing it
-because it represents a different yang of your yin
-or any other unexplainable reason
is not good and will likely result in an unexpectedly severe punishment

4. discordians vs. subgenius (pl)
the appearance of discord and discordians is SUGGESTIVE of the end of 'society'
the appearance of subgenius(pl) REPRESENT the end of 'society'

discordians loosen it up and get it moist
subgenius(pl) slip it in

it makes sense that they both made their appearance at around the same time

it wouldnt make sense for the subgenius to wait

once discordians are done their job
they are no longer needed

but
all efforts are appreciated

[the person on the other forum wrote:]

this is a metaphor
but
it might be a parable - only i cannot remember what exactly a parable is

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background:
i have had this idea on my mind for a while now
it is sort of a response to the 'what the fuck is really going on?' question which is still liable to swim thru my head

as of late - it was inspired by a conversation in another forum about krishna which had me rolling my eyes

the person on the other forum wrote: According to Bhagavadgita, we are parts and parcels of God (Krishna). We are Krishna's marginal potency, which means that we have free will. We're one with Krishna and different from Krishna at the same time. This philosophy is called acyntia abheda bheda tattva -inconcievable potency of God. We're one in quality, that means that as God has free will, we also have free will in minute form. But in quantity we're different. Krishna is greater than us in that sense, that he is all pervading, we're not.

it was also brought to mind by this comic:



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here is the lowdown:



you create a fictional character

you are the creator of this character and this character is able to live as long as you do

this character knows that you are its creator
and knows that it lives as long as you do


nothing goes on for this character
it has no need for anything
because
you provide for it

because of the relationship the character has with you
it has no need to do anything
ever


so
for the fuck of it
you create a character of the opposite sex


you let this character know the lowdown as well
and you provide the means for them to create more characters on their own


so your two characters get busy making more
but
they decide not to let their offspring know about you

and instead
they tell them other versions of
where they came from and how to provide for themselves
(fear etc)


eventually
all knowledge of you
-the creator-
gets jumbled into a mess


fast forward until the civilization that you created has 6.5 billion people
some of these 6.5 billion have NO FUCKING IDEA that you created them
and they are approaching this universe you created
with the intent of controlling it all


yes
that means some of these characters
which exist in your imagination
have NO IDEA that they are in your imagination
and they are trying to control you


yes
fictional characters
trying to control you


eventually
they develop an internet-type system for communication
and due to the seemingly infinite amount of information available to them
some of the imaginary characters manage to piece together what the deal is
that they are a part of your imagination

these characters cease trying to control the universe that you created
because they realize that it would be ridiculous


i am not sure where this goes yet
but
the characters wind up realizing that they could create a metaphorical scenario where

they create characters in their imagination
and they wind up posting messages very similar to this one on the internet

*****

can somebody please let me know where this metaphor falls apart?

many efforts have been made
dear sweet heavens
how sweat has soaked the brow

**

the machine has been identified
it has been observed that the machine is faulty
it has been observed that the machine is building itself up only to fall apart
it has been observed that we are part of the machine
it has been observed that there is no enemy and nobody to blame
it has been observed that it is going to be messy
it has been observed that it was destined to be this way

but still

how to approach it all?

doom
impending doom

efforts have been made to avoid the tragedy
we got smart
we became aware that one of the weaknesses of the machine is its affinity for routine and order
and that these affinities would eventually become so complex that they would be unmanageable

we became aware that chaos highlights these very glitches
so
we got together and did little things to confuse the machine
and we laughed because it was so predictable

but
the novelty wore off
and it became just as rewarding to discuss these type things as it was to actually do them


and the machine still lingered


we recognized that the only way to save ourselves from the seemingly imminent mess of the falling machine would be some other kind of group action
yes
something that would involve a group of people
a chunk of the machine itself
getting together and doing
something

but
it became apparent that we could not agree
and even if we could
the machine is still powerful enough to get rid of any threat to its illusion of control

and when it was observed that it could not be avoided
the efforts shifted to finding ways to keep our minds off it

hopefully
it would happen while we were sleeping
or
the machine would fall while we were in the movie theater
and we would exit
and see a path of destruction that somehow spared us
and left a trail of nourishment from the movie theater to the garden of eden
or
in between playing a quirky word game on an internet forum
the news ticker at the bottom of our monitor would say
'the end has come - everybody can stop pretending and relax'

but no
it is not gonna go down like that

the machine still lingers
and it still builds


in our search for escapism
both physical and mental
we found the internet
and the machine let us have it

for all of the outcasts and discontents which the machine had become so good at creating
there is a home on the internet
a feeling of togetherness

the machine would have you turn on the computer to release some tension
so you can muster up some strength
and go at it again tomorrow

the perfect form of entertainment

entertainment -
for the machine it is like saliva
it softens you up so you can be digested easier
so you dont know how to put up a fight


fuck that shit

the fun will not really start until the machine is down for the count

until then
the potential for being interrupted by the machine
and/or
tricked into doing machine work is always there

those who 'enjoy' the internet or search the internet for enjoyment
have been tricked into and endless search for escapism

and
the reason we cannot agree on anything is because the machine will not allow it

so
out of love

turn the internet into something that cannot be enjoyed
examine your motives
until loading a flash movie
or trolling an internet forum
becomes part of your job
and not something you do until the next time the machine calls your name

**
it will hurt a lot
but
it wont hurt for long
**

LHX - visions of a long sleep

how to develop a method of delivery which is useful
regardless of style or aesthetics:

1.
speak with the intent of accomplishing something
for example: ending the use of all words
(getting everybody - including you - to shut the fuck up)

2.
direct comments at yourself

3.
become sufficiently aware of what is going on so that you do not communicate anything that is
a) emotionally charged
b) ignorant
c) retarded
(if you do - it is better to communicate something retarded than ignorant and better to be ignorant than emotionally charged)

4.
if your comments turn out to be inflammatory or cause discomfort
it is a good sign that they were useful

5.
view all topics of conversation as something that can be bent in a useful direction
instead of
viewing it as something which is already established
or
something which is already being of use

6.
never pass up an opportunity to remind the audience that it is going to hurt
and then laugh
because there is nothing you can do about it except
a) avoid the mental anguish of searching for non-existent alternatives
b) avoid unnecessary discomfort

7.
acknowledge that everything you say is a subtle variation of the same thing
so
find the thing you enjoy saying
and
let the environment dictate fun and creative ways to say it


LIGHT
HOUSE
X
the beacon that will lead you over the cliff at the edge of the world




(notes for later -
rules
- create your own grammar
- not being compelled to spell things correctly - as in - TEH MACHINE
- feeling free to leave words out - as in - discordia will fucking ANYTHING)

discordia will fucking anything
even teh machine
(eventually)