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Principia Discordia => Think for Yourself, Schmuck! => Horrorology => Topic started by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 05:38:11 pm

Title: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 05:38:11 pm
I have found that there are basically 5 different reactions to me, and to people like me.  There are exceptions, of course, as there are exceptions to all human behavior.  Note that this isn't butthurt being manifested; I have entirely too many pills in me to work up a good head of hate right now, so this is the perfect time to write this sort of thing.  The larger implications are at the bottom.

1.  Many people hate me outright.  I am okay with this, as most of them are the kind of people that, if they LIKED me, I'd have to reevaluate the way I live my life.  The common thread between them is that they have some sort of belief or "ism" that they follow, and I offend them by making fun of their "ism", or by treating it as irrelevant. 

2.  People who feel that I am the default bad guy in any altercation.  Hilariously, some of the altercations that I am given the blame for are conversations in which I played no part at all, or merely posted in the same thread.  This has always puzzled me, but I don't worry about it too much...After all, if I'm BAD and WRONG all the time, no matter what or even if I was not involved in the first place, then there's no sense whatsoever in trying to please this sort of person.  Most of the time, this type of person behaves towards me as if I wasn't even a person myself.

3.  People who feel that I am some sort of fucking guru.  These people normally get up my ass more than the people who hate me.  I am not some kind of fucking messiah (they're found in Southampton), just as I am not - I know this is a shock - responsible for All Bad Things.  Typically, this sort of person eventually winds up swearing undying vengeance against me when I don't live up to their bizarre expectations.

4.  People who need to prove the size of their e-penis by "taking me down".  Tiresome.  So tiresome, in fact, that there's nothing more to say than the fact that I laugh at this sort of tard.

5.  Friends.  I have a few of these, believe it or not.  Interesting thing is, even my friends can or will only tolerate me in measured doses.

The larger picture here is that while this sort of shit may be a reflection on me, it is also a reflection on the people I'm talking about.  In the first four cases, the people involved are using me as a drug.  I am here to get them high, to entertain their minds for a while, so they can be spared the trouble of thinking...Much as Limbaugh fans HATE TEH LIBERALS, because it's easier than contemplating the massive complexities of modern society.

Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

Okay for now,
Dok
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 04, 2012, 05:55:36 pm
2.  People who feel that I am the default bad guy in any altercation.  Hilariously, some of the altercations that I am given the blame for are conversations in which I played no part at all, or merely posted in the same thread.  This has always puzzled me, but I don't worry about it too much...After all, if I'm BAD and WRONG all the time, no matter what or even if I was not involved in the first place, then there's no sense whatsoever in trying to please this sort of person.  Most of the time, this type of person behaves towards me as if I wasn't even a person myself.

I'm still trying to figure this one out. It's like that Bruce Lee "I fight without fighting" scene, except you don't even tell them to meet you on the lifeboat.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 05:59:10 pm
2.  People who feel that I am the default bad guy in any altercation.  Hilariously, some of the altercations that I am given the blame for are conversations in which I played no part at all, or merely posted in the same thread.  This has always puzzled me, but I don't worry about it too much...After all, if I'm BAD and WRONG all the time, no matter what or even if I was not involved in the first place, then there's no sense whatsoever in trying to please this sort of person.  Most of the time, this type of person behaves towards me as if I wasn't even a person myself.

I'm still trying to figure this one out. It's like that Bruce Lee "I fight without fighting" scene, except you don't even tell them to meet you on the lifeboat.

Naw.  Mostly, it's people who are friends.  The kind of friend that waits til you're in some sort of trouble, or some altercation, or upset about something...And then explains that it's all your fault, or asks you why you're "picking on" the poor little darlings who are trying to latch their teeth into your arse.

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 04, 2012, 06:05:57 pm
True.

They remind me of those moms who, when you see your kid's missing bike in their yard, run out and start screaming "MY KIDS DON'T STEAL!!!!!" until the cops show up.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 04, 2012, 07:20:50 pm
It is puzzling in its lack of diversity. That's what makes me boggle. For all the many, many people in the world; it is so easy to filter them into categories based on one or two things. Despite all the possible reactions and interactions out there, people are herd animals and respond as the herd responds. It's sorta depressing.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 07:23:11 pm
It is puzzling in its lack of diversity. That's what makes me boggle. For all the many, many people in the world; it is so easy to filter them into categories based on one or two things. Despite all the possible reactions and interactions out there, people are herd animals and respond as the herd responds. It's sorta depressing.

I'd say more of a pack mentality, and they're acting on primate programming, as we all do from time to time.

Give a monkey the choice between cocaine and food, he'll take cocaine every time.

Give a monkey the choice between thinking and running on autopilot, he'll take autopilot every time.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 04, 2012, 07:25:12 pm
Fuckin' sad, man.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2012, 07:38:50 pm
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

This one stopped me short.  I don't know the answer, which means I'm not admitting something to myself.  I'm going to have to take some time and think about this.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 07:47:53 pm
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

This one stopped me short.  I don't know the answer, which means I'm not admitting something to myself.  I'm going to have to take some time and think about this.

Well, that paragraph was the entire point of the piece.  And unlike AA, I don't maintain that everyone has this sort of addiction.  You don't see one in yourself, and that may be because you're fooling yourself, or it may be that you simply don't have one.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2012, 07:50:18 pm
I'm sure I blame my problems on someone/thing...  Does "myself" count?  My biggest fuckups usually come from odd bursts of completely irrational behavior.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 07:52:18 pm
I'm sure I blame my problems on someone/thing...  Does "myself" count?  My biggest fuckups usually come from odd bursts of completely irrational behavior.

It depends.  If it's your fault, you should blame yourself.

If it's not your fault, then blame whomever is at fault, including God.

If you don't believe in God, blame the impersonal void, which takes particular pleasure in fucking with allegedly intelligent life.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 04, 2012, 07:55:53 pm
If I don't want to deal with a problem, I tend to distract myself with people or things I actually LIKE, which might be another side of the same coin. Or not, since most of the shit I worry about is pretty unfixable and I really don't care to run my blood pressure up.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2012, 08:02:04 pm
I always get a kick out of your Malevolent God theory.



(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZWRog03WAs/T3yajSgN_MI/AAAAAAAAAeI/kOQ1McIu9gk/h301/Advice_Dog_Wallpaper_1024_x_76_by_Bubbachrissy.png)
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:03:13 pm
I always get a kick out of your Malevolent God theory.


All the contradictions and impossibilities just vanish.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 04, 2012, 08:12:29 pm
I always get a kick out of your Malevolent God theory.



(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZWRog03WAs/T3yajSgN_MI/AAAAAAAAAeI/kOQ1McIu9gk/h301/Advice_Dog_Wallpaper_1024_x_76_by_Bubbachrissy.png)

If it's not that, it might be like that story about Yahveh and Satan making bets about how much shit Job could take.

(http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/fennario99/poker-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:13:21 pm

If it's not that, it might be like that story about Yahveh and Satan making bets about how much shit Job could take.

Which I'm pretty sure is malevolent.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2012, 08:29:54 pm
And when called on his bullshit, JHVH basically said, "fuck you, I've got the power."






And then he said, "It's getting, it's getting, it's getting kind of hectic."
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:31:54 pm
And when called on his bullshit, JHVH basically said, "fuck you, I've got the power."






And then he said, "It's getting, it's getting, it's getting kind of hectic."

JOB, IMA DROP THA FUNK BOMB ON YA.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Bu☆ns on April 04, 2012, 08:34:09 pm
If I don't want to deal with a problem, I tend to distract myself with people or things I actually LIKE, which might be another side of the same coin. Or not, since most of the shit I worry about is pretty unfixable and I really don't care to run my blood pressure up.

I've found that sometimes not dealing with the problem is actually the best course of action to take in that my lack of attention allows the problem to solve itself.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Freeky on April 04, 2012, 11:05:37 pm
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

Huh.  I am thinking about this, and I'm either coming up with "I blame myself for every little thing," or nothing at all.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: cris on April 04, 2012, 11:33:59 pm
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

Huh.  I am thinking about this, and I'm either coming up with "I blame myself for every little thing," or nothing at all.

Dok I hardly even know you, but when you go on fizzygrizzly, everyone there looks up to you, you're that one grown up badass that has an awesome sense of humor. Even when you dont amuse us, we forgive you. Not everyone can be a badass 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 12:30:53 am
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

Huh.  I am thinking about this, and I'm either coming up with "I blame myself for every little thing," or nothing at all.

Dok I hardly even know you, but when you go on fizzygrizzly, everyone there looks up to you, you're that one grown up badass that has an awesome sense of humor. Even when you dont amuse us, we forgive you. Not everyone can be a badass 100% of the time.

Fizzygrizzly just outclassed a bunch of older people that should know better.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:21:04 am
roger - i noticed you didn't include in your categories "people that hate you because you hate them"

allow me to elaborate:

i get the feeling you hate me.

often times, you will respond to one of my posts with something that i will interpret as a poke or a stab.  i'm never sure if you're just being a prick to me because you don't like me - or if you just want to tussle.

sometimes i will attempt to "walk away" - other times i will "step up" and things escalate. 

so - do you like to fight or fighting's sake - or do you genuinely despise me?

oh shit, that's right - this is the internet, so no matter what you say, i won't be sure if it's genuine or not



Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 02:23:56 am


oh shit, that's right - this is the internet, so no matter what you say, i won't be sure if it's genuine or not

Then there's no point in me answering, is there?

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:31:04 am
i guess not
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 02:32:07 am
i guess not

Right, then.  Now bugger off and call someone else a liar, kid.  It doesn't get under my skin anymore, you've done this shit too often.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:35:21 am
 i called you a liar?
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 02:36:54 am
i called you a liar?

Yeah.  The last sentence of your post.

You asked me a straightforward question, then implied that my answer would be a lie.

Seriously, kid...Go indulge your aspergers on someone else.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:39:25 am
kind of a stretch to imply that i was preemptively calling you a liar.

so, is this fisticuffs for fun? or is it for keepsies?
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 02:41:09 am
kind of a stretch to imply that i was preemptively calling you a liar.


So what DID it mean? 
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:43:45 am
it meant that, at the end of my post, i realized i wouldn't know if i could believe your reply.  not necessarily that it's a lie - but that i wouldn't be able to tell.

i decided to include the italics instead of deleting and not posting.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 02:44:25 am
it meant that, at the end of my post, i realized i wouldn't know if i could believe your reply.  not necessarily that it's a lie - but that i wouldn't be able to tell.


I fail to see any difference whatsoever.

This conversation is over.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 02:48:52 am
so you don't hate anybody, then?
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 03:35:19 am
I always get a kick out of your Malevolent God theory.



(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZWRog03WAs/T3yajSgN_MI/AAAAAAAAAeI/kOQ1McIu9gk/h301/Advice_Dog_Wallpaper_1024_x_76_by_Bubbachrissy.png)

It's pretty much the best God theory out there.

"Ha, ha," God said, "See that group of monkeys? I'm going to make them walk upright and give them reason and free will, but I'm going to leave intact the monkey instincts to dig in, screech, and throw poop. This'll be funny!".
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 03:38:04 am
i CHOOSE to throw poop, dammit
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 03:39:40 am
roger - i noticed you didn't include in your categories "people that hate you because you hate them"

allow me to elaborate:

i get the feeling you hate me.

often times, you will respond to one of my posts with something that i will interpret as a poke or a stab.  i'm never sure if you're just being a prick to me because you don't like me - or if you just want to tussle.

sometimes i will attempt to "walk away" - other times i will "step up" and things escalate. 

so - do you like to fight or fighting's sake - or do you genuinely despise me?

oh shit, that's right - this is the internet, so no matter what you say, i won't be sure if it's genuine or not

I suspect that it's because you are incredibly insecure and it comes out in your posts in the form of passive-aggressive little prick statements just like the line bolded above, and it irritates people. As much as it would probably make you feel important to be hated, rest assured that for most people, when they aren't in the middle of reading your posts and feeling mildly annoyed by them, they forget that you exist at all.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 03:48:41 am
who are you again

point taken
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 03:51:33 am
Looks like he's working on feeling more important.  :boring:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:09:00 am
Looks like he's working on feeling more important.  :boring:

I don't usually respond to him because I have no inclination to spend time on passive-aggressive attention-seekers, because they come across to me as weak-minded, but I thought for a moment that maybe he's capable of learning so I thought I'd try to clue him in.

Most likely he's not, in which case everyone will go back to their usual not giving a fuck.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: rong on April 05, 2012, 04:24:10 am
oops, i did it again
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: navkat on April 05, 2012, 06:31:22 am
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

This one stopped me short.  I don't know the answer, which means I'm not admitting something to myself.  I'm going to have to take some time and think about this.

You always say the thing I wanted to say.

Reading this makes me realize I do have a drug and spent far too much time getting spun about it but I don't know how to stop choosing the drug over the food.

I guess I'm sort of fascinated and obsessed--not with the person anymore. Even I realize I don't feel a thing towards them by now, but with the things they did that caught me off-gaurd.

Like a child at a magic show, I want to know how he did it, how he fooled me so completely. How did the ball end up under the cup in the middle? He hardly even moved that one! What did I miss? How did he pull that off without me seeing a thing? I must know.

I really can't bring myself to having animosity for individuals. It's boring, accomplishes nothing and it's a waste of my headspace. But systems, themes, patterns, groups, attitudes...the shit people do when they aren't being individual...those things plague me to a point where I almost have to admit that I am powerless over them and my life has become unmanageable.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 08:28:38 am
I don't know, I think people get caught off guard when they have certain standards, and the people they've known had those standards, so they're just not expecting it. Like all those old Indians thinking the treaties were real, or assuming somebody's not a pedo because they seem like anybody else. I don't know, I guess it's kind of a choice between having really minimal interactions with anybody, or taking a chance on getting fucked over at some point.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: navkat on April 05, 2012, 01:58:11 pm
It gets worse when they are fantastically manipulative but are so enveloped in a fog of justifications that neither you nor they suspect they are full of shit. Bonus points when they bore of you and sadistically exploit your vulnerabilities to paint themselves as having been victimized by you as an exit strategy and on their way out the door, try to convince you how reprehensable you are.

I know this is a fucked up, possibly paranoid, biased thing to say but at the time, I got a nagging feeling that some part of him was hoping I'd kill myself...like he knew precisely how to exact that result and at my weakest moment, couldn't restrain himself. Several months hindsight has done little to abate this feeling. To the contrary: the possibility has only shaped itself in my mind as completely feasible and no longer one borne of emotional logic. I'm still floored by the absolute mystical, magical nature of the idea...so crazy, could it be true? Nah! But dude...

This was not just being surprised by someone not adhering to a standard I set for them in my mind, rather, at least some part of this was calculated and I had no warning bells. That's scary and it's made me extremely frightened and mistrustful of people ever since.

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: navkat on April 05, 2012, 02:09:11 pm
The drug part is the inability to wrap my mind around it and make it stick. More than a significant part of me goes "There has to be some other explanation for those actions. There's no way...no one is that evil. There's something I'm missing in my asessment. Maybe I perceived something the wrong way. Maybe I'm being unfair."
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:11:40 pm
The drug part is the inability to wrap my mind around it and make it stick. More than a significant part of me goes "There has to be some other explanation for those actions. There's no way...no one is that evil. There's something I'm missing in my asessment. Maybe I perceived something the wrong way. Maybe I'm being unfair."

I think that's a pretty common thought pattern for people who have been victimized. Contrast this with people who have not; they usually go "This guy is an asshole, and I'm kicking him out of my life immediately".

My housemate's ex-boyfriend is turning out to be a huge asshole. They broke up almost 3 months ago and she moved in here two months ago, but since finding out she's started dating again just a few days ago he has sent her something like 20 emails, all about how inappropriate it is and how she's crossed a line yadda yadda. He told our mutual friends that she's planning on prostituting herself to pay her bills, and a bunch of other sick bullshit.

It might just be a mental break from the emotional stress of the breakup, but I think he's just an asshole and this manipulative shit is probably reflective of why she stayed with him for so long... because she had poor boundaries due to having been taught at a young age that others were more important than she was, so she was easy pickings for his mind-games, and \made excuses for his bad behavior year after year instead of running for the hills like a woman with healthy boundaries and self-esteem would have.

She's much better now, which is why she finally left, and naturally he's incensed that she would DARE to leave him. And now that another man has soiled his property taken his ex-girlfriend on a couple of dates, he can't stop flipping out about what a bad, bad, evil woman she is.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:20:24 pm
That was a total tangent from the thread... but it might offer some insight into some of the people who try to form the Cult of Roger. And then become outraged when you won't play Guru Daddy for them.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: navkat on April 05, 2012, 04:32:48 pm
I, for one, appreciate the luxurious benefits of TGRR fanclub membership...like being one of the first ones informed when it's time to buy merchandise! And lists of people Roger hates! Out-of-focus pics of Roger leering into the camera! And I can rest easy at night because I know with my name on the mailing list, I will never miss an opportunity to answer limited-edition surveys from Roger's fine affiliates who want to hear MY opinion on how they should market their quality products!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 04:34:36 pm
That was a total tangent from the thread... but it might offer some insight into some of the people who try to form the Cult of Roger. And then become outraged when you won't play Guru Daddy for them.

Yes. This. Kind of a sociopathic internet Fatal Attraction thing.

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 04:42:52 pm
She's much better now, which is why she finally left, and naturally he's incensed that she would DARE to leave him. And now that another man has soiled his property taken his ex-girlfriend on a couple of dates, he can't stop flipping out about what a bad, bad, evil woman she is.

Something I've noticed:  When a breakup happens, and people move on, the person who starts dating first inspires massive butthurt in the other person, as it implies that the person who hasn't found someone might be the one who came up short in the relationship.  Most people just grit their teeth and move on.

There's no excuse for the shit this guy pulled, but the butthurt driving his shitbag behavior isn't too mysterious.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 04:44:11 pm
That was a total tangent from the thread... but it might offer some insight into some of the people who try to form the Cult of Roger. And then become outraged when you won't play Guru Daddy for them.

The funny thing is, I've always insisted that people be their own guru.

"And how shall we do that?"

:walken:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 04:44:51 pm
I, for one, appreciate the luxurious benefits of TGRR fanclub membership...like being one of the first ones informed when it's time to buy merchandise! And lists of people Roger hates! Out-of-focus pics of Roger leering into the camera! And I can rest easy at night because I know with my name on the mailing list, I will never miss an opportunity to answer limited-edition surveys from Roger's fine affiliates who want to hear MY opinion on how they should market their quality products!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if you join today, you get all the koolaid you can drink in 30 seconds FREE!
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 04:46:17 pm
I don't know, I think people get caught off guard when they have certain standards, and the people they've known had those standards, so they're just not expecting it. Like all those old Indians thinking the treaties were real, or assuming somebody's not a pedo because they seem like anybody else. I don't know, I guess it's kind of a choice between having really minimal interactions with anybody, or taking a chance on getting fucked over at some point.

"You'll never get through life with an unchipped heart."
- Peter Straub
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 04:51:33 pm
I don't know, I think people get caught off guard when they have certain standards, and the people they've known had those standards, so they're just not expecting it. Like all those old Indians thinking the treaties were real, or assuming somebody's not a pedo because they seem like anybody else. I don't know, I guess it's kind of a choice between having really minimal interactions with anybody, or taking a chance on getting fucked over at some point.

"You'll never get through life with an unchipped heart."
- Peter Straub

Yes. This.
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Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:55:52 pm
She's much better now, which is why she finally left, and naturally he's incensed that she would DARE to leave him. And now that another man has soiled his property taken his ex-girlfriend on a couple of dates, he can't stop flipping out about what a bad, bad, evil woman she is.

Something I've noticed:  When a breakup happens, and people move on, the person who starts dating first inspires massive butthurt in the other person, as it implies that the person who hasn't found someone might be the one who came up short in the relationship.  Most people just grit their teeth and move on.

There's no excuse for the shit this guy pulled, but the butthurt driving his shitbag behavior isn't too mysterious.

Yes, I think that a lot of the behavior is a reflection of totally normal post-breakup freakout. I was crazy and angry as hell after my breakup with ML, and I'm the one who broke up with him. I'm still angry at him, actually.
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 05, 2012, 05:41:48 pm
Was it ML that was all like, "yeah basically all dudes solicit a prostitute at some point; it's pretty much a universal guy thing"? Or am I thinking of a different assclown?
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:56:21 pm
Was it ML that was all like, "yeah basically all dudes solicit a prostitute at some point; it's pretty much a universal guy thing"? Or am I thinking of a different assclown?

Yeah, that was him. He left me more scarred and freaked out by men after 11 months than any of the rest of them. Even Pez, who is a world-renowned dick to the point where I get random texts at least twice a week from someone he's irritated, and we've been divorced for twelve years.

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:57:11 pm
Was it ML that was all like, "yeah basically all dudes solicit a prostitute at some point; it's pretty much a universal guy thing"? Or am I thinking of a different assclown?

Yeah, that was him. He left me more scarred and freaked out by men after 11 months than any of the rest of them. Even Pez, who is a world-renowned dick to the point where I get random texts at least twice a week from someone he's irritated, and we've been divorced for twelve years.

I guess I'm not a guy. 
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 05, 2012, 06:05:48 pm
Yeah I thought so. So for the record, I'm still angry at him too, and I don't even know the dork. In one fell swoop he insulted me and everyone else with a penis.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:10:09 pm
Yeah I thought so. So for the record, I'm still angry at him too, and I don't even know the dork. In one fell swoop he insulted me and everyone else with a penis.

When Freeky and I met Nigel & ML, within 20 minutes we were like "What is she DOING with this pretentious boob?".

But you can't really say anything like that.

And yeah, that pissed me off, too.  I mean, if he feels the need to buy someone's body for a while, great.  Don't project that sort of sociopathy on me.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:12:52 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:14:54 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:18:01 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:22:43 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 06:25:35 pm
Maybe he comes from a long line of ghouls. Probably stole heads off the spikes of London Bridge or something.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:26:41 pm
Maybe he comes from a long line of ghouls. Probably stole heads off the spikes of London Bridge or something.

I just had this vision of some hippie with a bag in his hand and a hacksaw, waiting for the tide to go out at Traitor's Gate.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 06:34:10 pm
Maybe he comes from a long line of ghouls. Probably stole heads off the spikes of London Bridge or something.

I just had this vision of some hippie with a bag in his hand and a hacksaw, waiting for the tide to go out at Traitor's Gate.

 :lulz:

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: navkat on April 05, 2012, 06:48:22 pm
I love when hippies brits and canadians think just because they're not americans that means they're culturally richer than we.

Silly white people, you're white people!
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 05, 2012, 09:58:24 pm
Really? Only those five? I see you more as a truck full of nitroglycerine, hurtling down the highway with no breaks and a madman at the wheel. I can't tell whether people get blown up because they cut you off, or because you rammed into their fender, and it doesn't matter because I just want to survive until my exit.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 10:48:54 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 11:06:46 pm
Really? Only those five? I see you more as a truck full of nitroglycerine, hurtling down the highway with no breaks and a madman at the wheel. I can't tell whether people get blown up because they cut you off, or because you rammed into their fender, and it doesn't matter because I just want to survive until my exit.

Today, a colleague accused me of having mood swings.

Can you imagine that?
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 11:07:25 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.

Sort of like when Victorian era people ate mummy dust as a tonic.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 11:45:54 pm
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.

Sort of like when Victorian era people ate mummy dust as a tonic.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Freeky on April 06, 2012, 12:12:24 am
Really? Only those five? I see you more as a truck full of nitroglycerine, hurtling down the highway with no breaks and a madman at the wheel. I can't tell whether people get blown up because they cut you off, or because you rammed into their fender, and it doesn't matter because I just want to survive until my exit.

Today, a colleague accused me of having mood swings.

Can you imagine that?

You?  No!
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 06, 2012, 12:15:04 am
Really? Only those five? I see you more as a truck full of nitroglycerine, hurtling down the highway with no breaks and a madman at the wheel. I can't tell whether people get blown up because they cut you off, or because you rammed into their fender, and it doesn't matter because I just want to survive until my exit.

Today, a colleague accused me of having mood swings.

Can you imagine that?

You?  No!

Never!

(checks seatbelts)
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 06, 2012, 01:01:42 am
Really? Only those five? I see you more as a truck full of nitroglycerine, hurtling down the highway with no breaks and a madman at the wheel. I can't tell whether people get blown up because they cut you off, or because you rammed into their fender, and it doesn't matter because I just want to survive until my exit.

Today, a colleague accused me of having mood swings.

Can you imagine that?

You?  No!

Never!

(checks seatbelts)

In some places, I am revered as an icon of stability.

Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 06, 2012, 01:02:54 am
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.

Sort of like when Victorian era people ate mummy dust as a tonic.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

It's funny because it's true.

http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/Mummy.htm
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 06, 2012, 01:06:27 am
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.

Sort of like when Victorian era people ate mummy dust as a tonic.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

It's funny because it's true.

http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/Mummy.htm

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

 :x :x :x :x
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 06, 2012, 01:08:41 am
FBF came up with a great term for him; ponytail misogynist.

I think it pretty much says it all.

Just like we have ponytail grave robbers.   :lulz:

OK, this you need to explain.  :lol:

Thought I did.  We have these neo-hippies, you know the kind:  55-ish, pony tail, shorts, sandals.  They walk around in the desert looking for Indian graves (this place is FULL of ancient graves), so they can steal someone's bits, polish them up, and sell them under the table at the gem show in February.

I knew one guy who does this.  I asked him why the fuck this would EVER be acceptable, and he mumbled something about "getting in touch with his heritage".

"YOU'RE 100% ENGLISH, FUCKTARD!  YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE.  YOU'RE A FUCKING GHOUL!"

He doesn't speak to me, anymore, which upsets me to no end.

Oh yeah, those guys. I forget about them because the concept is so debased.

Sort of like when Victorian era people ate mummy dust as a tonic.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

It's funny because it's true.

http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/Mummy.htm

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

 :x :x :x :x

Because in an age of rationalism, eating dead people to cure disorders is the obvious thing to do!
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 06, 2012, 01:17:04 am
Don't let pagans see that. They believe EVERYTHING WORKS.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 06, 2012, 01:19:36 am
Don't let pagans see that. They believe EVERYTHING WORKS.

I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 06, 2012, 01:30:06 am
Don't let pagans see that. They believe EVERYTHING WORKS.

I'm okay with that.

 :peedee:

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Triple Zero on April 06, 2012, 01:39:35 am
Do YOU have a drug?  Is there some person or thing in your life that you project all your problems onto, to avoid the drudgery of actually trying to figure out what's going on?  Can you admit - to yourself - that you have this sort of addiction?  And if so, can you bring yourself to walk away from it, or are you merely going to spend the rest of your life in the monkeyhouse?

This one stopped me short.  I don't know the answer, which means I'm not admitting something to myself.  I'm going to have to take some time and think about this.

I was going to post pretty much exactly this. Going to think long and hard about it, too.

I do got some potential suspects though. Though they're all variations on what LMNO added later, "myself": myself as I want to be, myself as I think I can be, myself as I think I should be, and the most suspect "myself as I was 12 years ago".

I don't know if it's as simple as just walking away, though. I might need to kill them first.

That said, other replies ITT make it interesting to see that apparently this is not something that's like this for everybody. Somehow that's hopeful.

And also:
Maybe he comes from a long line of ghouls. Probably stole heads off the spikes of London Bridge or something.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 06, 2012, 01:51:37 am
Because in an age of rationalism, eating dead people to cure disorders is the obvious thing to do!

The Romantics: What happens when enough bored, rich airheads who read too much decide that they can one-up the Enlightenment.
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 06, 2012, 02:06:03 am
Because in an age of rationalism, eating dead people to cure disorders is the obvious thing to do!

The Romantics: What happens when enough bored, rich airheads who read too much decide that they can one-up the Enlightenment.

I read once that Lord Byron's butler walked out when Byron told him that he was going to build a "magnificent tomb" where himself, the butler and Boatswain would all be buried together.

Boatswain was a Newfoundland.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Notes on Being the Villain, part I
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 06, 2012, 07:14:15 am
Don't let pagans see that. They believe EVERYTHING WORKS.

ZOMBIE

HORDES

!