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Principia Discordia => Think for Yourself, Schmuck! => Topic started by: Neutral Party on August 02, 2017, 08:16:21 pm

Title: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Neutral Party on August 02, 2017, 08:16:21 pm
I was blessed with a revelation from the Goddess:
"If you define them, they will be."

A question immediately followed:
What if instead of punching Nazis we redefined them?

I think the first step is replacing racism and/or colorism
with good old fashion in-group favoritism.
In other words, we reduce the bias to "us" vs "not us".
This is much more normal and allows for diversity.

Beyond that I think we need to create a "list of shoulds".
I'll start. A progressive nazi should:
- have a funny mustache
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Bu☆ns on August 02, 2017, 08:27:48 pm
Not this shit again
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Neutral Party on August 02, 2017, 08:35:13 pm
"Not this shit again...", said the Strawman.
But Dorthy wasn't having any.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: PoFP on August 02, 2017, 08:37:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/3sQgIuM.jpg)

^^^ Applies to the other thread as well. Didn't wanna post it twice and waste post count on something so stupid.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Neutral Party on August 02, 2017, 09:02:38 pm
"shit" and "stupid"... Out of the mouths of babes.
The Goddess did not lead me astray.

Lesson learned: Human interaction isn't fun if it has already been done.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: PoFP on August 02, 2017, 09:31:07 pm
"shit" and "stupid"... Out of the mouths of babes.
The Goddess did not lead me astray.

Lesson learned: Human interaction isn't fun if it has already been done.

You're telling me  :lulz:

The only reasons one remains neutral in a situation:

1.) They are a coward (In particular, afraid of being incorrect)
2.) They are unaffected by the outcome of a situation

In the case of Nazism and its ability to spread, you are 1.) Affected by the outcome and 2.) don't seem to hold a position due to insistence of "Neutrality."

This makes you an idiot, and this type of thing has been seen here before a million times. So yes, I agree. Human interaction isn't fun if it has already been done.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Faust on August 02, 2017, 09:43:14 pm
I was blessed with a revelation from the Goddess:
"If you define them, they will be."

A question immediately followed:
What if instead of punching Nazis we redefined them?

I think the first step is replacing racism and/or colorism
with good old fashion in-group favoritism.
In other words, we reduce the bias to "us" vs "not us".
This is much more normal and allows for diversity.

Beyond that I think we need to create a "list of shoulds".
I'll start. A progressive nazi should:
- have a funny mustache
Lets redefine nazi's as extinct and do what we can to make that definition the real thing
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: PoFP on August 02, 2017, 09:49:55 pm
I was blessed with a revelation from the Goddess:
"If you define them, they will be."

A question immediately followed:
What if instead of punching Nazis we redefined them?

I think the first step is replacing racism and/or colorism
with good old fashion in-group favoritism.
In other words, we reduce the bias to "us" vs "not us".
This is much more normal and allows for diversity.

Beyond that I think we need to create a "list of shoulds".
I'll start. A progressive nazi should:
- have a funny mustache
Lets redefine nazi's as extinct and do what we can to make that definition the real thing

He just wants them to look funny while they steal the rights, property, and wealth of all the minorities.

10 bucks says it's a white guy.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Neutral Party on August 02, 2017, 10:10:59 pm
@PoFP

Only two reasons or options is a common indicator of an either-or fallacy.

You've taken a non-serious label seriously and mocked someone for it,
which makes you a(n)...???

I didn't realize this was a no-nonsense zone
where people are talkin bout real issues and get triggered so easily.

So you've seen similar content on the forum before? So what?
Welcome to the internet, and specifically forums,
where you are now the guy who needs a new hobby
but lurks around pointing out unoriginal content.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: PoFP on August 02, 2017, 10:39:43 pm
@PoFP

Only two reasons or options is a common indicator of an either-or fallacy.

You've taken a non-serious label seriously and mocked someone for it,
which makes you a(n)...???

I didn't realize this was a no-nonsense zone
where people are talkin bout real issues and get triggered so easily.

So you've seen similar content on the forum before? So what?
Welcome to the internet, and specifically forums,
where you are now the guy who needs a new hobby
but lurks around pointing out unoriginal content.

Unless you've created a new account, it appears your first two posts on the forum were based on preference of "Neutrality" and ambiguous language for definitions of known concepts. If these were jokes, they weren't funny. If they were some kind of performance art, it's likely going to go unappreciated.

If this is your first time coming here, and you haven't been lurking awhile, understand that this kind of forum entrance is a pattern we all recognize as heading straight for "tard-town." It's kind of a pattern that's gone on for years, and we are mostly annoyed by it at this point.

If you're here just for laughs, that's cool. We like laughs. But posting out of pure irony with little context or humor is not the way to get laughs, here. Also keep in mind that the forum section you posted in is mostly for presenting new perspectives on serious issues, or presenting new ideas in general, which alters the perceived context of your post a little for those who've been here awhile. But I do understand that the Forum Section titles are a bit ambiguous and less indicative of what they stand for, for the sake of subversive comedy. Keep in mind that the section descriptions, however, while occasionally subversive as well, are a bit more indicative of the section's purpose.

Also, responding to an initial negative response with ambiguous condescension is not the best way to give the impression that you weren't serious about what you posted. A better route would be to clarify your intentions.

Anyways, if your intentions are good, and you're not neutral on Nazism, stick around. I'm also unfunny, so no hard feelings there. Pool's on the roof.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Faust on August 02, 2017, 10:45:30 pm
I was blessed with a revelation from the Goddess:
"If you define them, they will be."

A question immediately followed:
What if instead of punching Nazis we redefined them?

I think the first step is replacing racism and/or colorism
with good old fashion in-group favoritism.
In other words, we reduce the bias to "us" vs "not us".
This is much more normal and allows for diversity.

Beyond that I think we need to create a "list of shoulds".
I'll start. A progressive nazi should:
- have a funny mustache
Lets redefine nazi's as extinct and do what we can to make that definition the real thing

He just wants them to look funny while they steal the rights, property, and wealth of all the minorities.

10 bucks says it's a white guy.
Im ok with them looking funny if they are in the cold cold ground
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Bu☆ns on August 02, 2017, 11:05:44 pm
I admit to being triggered.  I'm triggered a lot and i'm glad for it. It reminds me that I still have values in a world where the powers that be push toward the opposite.

So again, and again folks come along with that all-too familiar tone of normalizing intolerance, i don't think you'll get quite the "haha silly goose" reaction you possibly expected.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Junkenstein on August 03, 2017, 12:06:05 am
Just noting my hands are clean here.

Also noting nazinazinazi is the new drugsanddrugs.

Carry on, you can't help yourselves. I mean, I'm curious to see how mentally deficient the new rube is too, bit we all know where this is going.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Neutral Party on August 03, 2017, 12:18:07 am
I appreciate your consideration.

You are correct that I would benefit from
informing new aquaintances of the nature of my absurdity.

It is a form of satire inspired by
the absurd theater people are calling civilization.
"fight absurdity with absurdity" in a half-assed way
or full-assed... whatever the Goddess prefers.

My intention was only to have some fun.
Hopefully that can be added to The Book
under a section titled "the folly of the absurd".
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 03, 2017, 12:24:21 am
I was blessed with a revelation from the Goddess:
"If you define them, they will be."

A question immediately followed:
What if instead of punching Nazis we redefined them?

I think the first step is replacing racism and/or colorism
with good old fashion in-group favoritism.
In other words, we reduce the bias to "us" vs "not us".
This is much more normal and allows for diversity.

Beyond that I think we need to create a "list of shoulds".
I'll start. A progressive nazi should:
- have a funny mustache
Lets redefine nazi's as extinct and do what we can to make that definition the real thing

 :dream:
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Scott The Cuck on August 03, 2017, 05:06:11 am
OP is a fag.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: LMNO on August 03, 2017, 01:19:03 pm
I appreciate your consideration.

You are correct that I would benefit from
informing new aquaintances of the nature of my absurdity.

It is a form of satire inspired by
the absurd theater people are calling civilization.
"fight absurdity with absurdity" in a half-assed way
or full-assed... whatever the Goddess prefers.

My intention was only to have some fun.
Hopefully that can be added to The Book
under a section titled "the folly of the absurd".

The thing is, if you're looking to do satire in an Absurdist fashion with "neutrality", you really need to go there.  I mean, you gotta dig in and get really extreme about it.  Take it to the wall; break down the wall; keep going.  You need to be fucking unhinged about neutrality. 

The signal you're sending in the OP is, "It doesn't affect me, and I don't care."  That's not neutrality, that's callous indifference. 

Like, if you want to be neutral about Nazis as absurdist satire, you want to up the stakes and state your neutral position on genocide, and baby rape.

Sure, that would make you look like even more of an asshole than you already do, but at least you wouldn't be boring.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: PoFP on August 03, 2017, 04:47:51 pm

The thing is, if you're looking to do satire in an Absurdist fashion with "neutrality", you really need to go there.  I mean, you gotta dig in and get really extreme about it.  Take it to the wall; break down the wall; keep going.  You need to be fucking unhinged about neutrality.   

Like, if you want to be neutral about Nazis as absurdist satire, you want to up the stakes and state your neutral position on genocide, and baby rape.

 :lulz:

A:"Alright everyone, we NEED to talk about the baby rape epidemic."

B:"What's there to talk about? Kill every baby rapist. It's wrong."

A:"I cannot believe how biased you're being right now. How are we supposed to have intellectual discussions if you're just going to jump on the first Morality bandwagon that comes through the station?"

B:"???"

A:" :roll: I bet you've got a stance on genocide, too."

I appreciate your consideration.

You are correct that I would benefit from
informing new aquaintances of the nature of my absurdity.

It is a form of satire inspired by
the absurd theater people are calling civilization.
"fight absurdity with absurdity" in a half-assed way
or full-assed... whatever the Goddess prefers.

My intention was only to have some fun.
Hopefully that can be added to The Book
under a section titled "the folly of the absurd".

We love fighting absurdity with absurdity. That is certainly in the spirit of Discordianism (Even though most of us here aren't "Real Discordians"). But as LMNO pointed out, you gotta go all the way. "Full-assed" in your words.

But even then, I'd pay attention to what your purpose is for the satire. If you look around in Operation: Mindfuck, for example, you might find some ideas and proposals for projects you might like that are intended to not only be hilarious, but also invoke some sort of change in a system. Whether it's exemplifying some Facebook Group's attitude about one topic in regard to another in order to get them to think about it differently, or even just mocking a group's attitude so well that observers rebel against that group. We love making a difference when we get the chance, especially if it means making somebody look dumb. Hilariously.

If you wanna satirize something on this board only, maybe to get us all to look at an issue a bit differently, that's great, too. Adding a new perspective to something we might already all be in agreement on (And we don't always agree on everything, believe me) can lead to pretty in-depth discussions around these parts, which may lead to epiphanies about other related/unrelated topics.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 04, 2017, 12:17:36 am
 :noob:
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 04, 2017, 12:18:04 am
Not this shit again

We're all gonna get shaved by this edge.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Bu☆ns on August 04, 2017, 12:26:48 am
Not this shit again

We're all gonna get shaved by this edge.

hopefully not our heads.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Bu☆ns on August 04, 2017, 12:28:21 am
okay okay you're right.


Hey new guy welcome!
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 04, 2017, 01:39:11 am
okay okay you're right.


Hey new guy welcome!

Was referring to the new guy.
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Bu☆ns on August 04, 2017, 02:38:16 am
okay okay you're right.


Hey new guy welcome!

Was referring to the new guy.

Gotcha
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2017, 09:06:09 pm
 :roll:
Title: Re: Progressive or Postmodern Nazism
Post by: Teacher22 on August 09, 2017, 10:48:54 am
I have to agree with POpF
Quote
You're telling me  :lulz:

The only reasons one remains neutral in a situation:

1.) They are a coward (In particular, afraid of being incorrect)
2.) They are unaffected by the outcome of a situation

In the case of Nazism and its ability to spread, you are 1.) Affected by the outcome and 2.) don't seem to hold a position due to insistence of "Neutrality."

This makes you an idiot, and this type of thing has been seen here before a million times. So yes, I agree. Human interaction isn't fun if it has already been done.

He is 100% right.