What the shit is this shit?
QuoteFrom July 15th to September 15th of 2015, the U.S. military will be conducting a massive military drill throughout 9 states in an operation entitled Jade Helm.
This rather alarming drill across the entire American Southwest will include the US Army's Green Berets, US Marines Special Ops Command, US Navy Seals, and US Air Force Special Ops Command.
The stated purpose of the drill contradicts how this unprecedented exercise will actually be carried out.
Combine this with the document labeling entire U.S. states as 'hostile' leaves one with a sinking feeling.
hxxp://www.truthandaction.org/operation-jade-helm-massive-military-drill-across-7-states-unconventional-warfare/
Is there anything to this story?
Yes, and no
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/
http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-truth-behind-jade-helm-15/203807/
http://www.inquisitr.com/2037309/jade-helm-15-special-ops-commanders-to-share-details-of-the-realistic-military-training/
It's the usual American conspiraloon "the army is secretly gonna takeover while doing a military exercise" freakout. You'll notice all the sites pushing this - Infowards, Breitbart, Russia Today, NaturalNews etc - share a certain...ideological affinity.
So, the usual... typical. Every time I keep hoping something interesting will happen... I wonder if that is the impetus behind most interest in the weird? Boredom.
Probably. You could always start following actual wars....they tend to involve highly weird people. Sub-Saharan Africa has some great conflicts, with warlords who have amazing nicknames, strange beliefs and often deal with equally weird arms dealers (Merex Arms International, for example. Nazi arms dealers).
Where would be the best place to start?
The War Nerd's archives, plus The Shadow World by Andrew Feinstein (I cannot recommend this book enough - it's great both as an intro to the arms trade and for those who follow the reporting on it)
I will pick it up this weekend, thanks!
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are claiming this is a means by which Obama intends to invade Texas.
Not shitting you.
Also, you don't occupy with special forces. It would be like tasking 4 doctors to do the work of a thousand nurses.
More importantly: how does Obama invade a state he already owns?
That's like claiming I illegally broke into my own house. It's retarded. I know Texas likes to think it's not America, at least when a black man is in charge, but it is.
The South lost, and it really fucking needs to get over that.
Quote from: Cain on May 01, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
More importantly: how does Obama invade a state he already owns?
That's like claiming I illegally broke into my own house. It's retarded. I know Texas likes to think it's not America, at least when a black man is in charge, but it is.
The South lost, and it really fucking needs to get over that.
There's an interesting optical illusion, where if you look at the South from Northern states, it's the Confederacy. But if you look at it from Mexico, it's "AMERICA where we speak ENGLISH also please pick my vegetables." It's like the blue-black/white-gold dress meme, but for a hundred years.
Quote from: Cain on May 01, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
More importantly: how does Obama invade a state he already owns?
That's like claiming I illegally broke into my own house. It's retarded. I know Texas likes to think it's not America, at least when a black man is in charge, but it is.
The South lost, and it really fucking needs to get over that.
You're kind of giving Texas a little too much credit for brains, here.
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on May 01, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 01, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
More importantly: how does Obama invade a state he already owns?
That's like claiming I illegally broke into my own house. It's retarded. I know Texas likes to think it's not America, at least when a black man is in charge, but it is.
The South lost, and it really fucking needs to get over that.
There's an interesting optical illusion, where if you look at the South from Northern states, it's the Confederacy. But if you look at it from Mexico, it's "AMERICA where we speak ENGLISH also please pick my vegetables." It's like the blue-black/white-gold dress meme, but for a hundred years.
Both posts are brilliant.
Cain, do you think this has anything to do with all the riots going on?
I'd find it unlikely. Like Roger says, spec ops guys are not cut out for holding territory, and riot/crowd control/restoration of order duties are similar enough in kind that I wouldn't expect commando units to be made to do it. It's more of a National Guard thing, is my understanding.
Instead, I'd be looking at geography. I'm no expert on US climates, but Texas, Utah and "parts of California" are all hot, arid and with some rugged/mountainous terrain. Sound like anywhere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Syria#Eastern_plateau) the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Iraq#Highlands) US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Iran#Topography) may (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Yemen#Topography) have an interest in?
And of course, it's also entirely possible that a training exercise is just a training exercise. With the relative wind down of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, now would be a good time to see what lessons have been learned in the field, in a large scale operation. See if anyone has seen or come up with anything especially clever in the last few years. That this may also help in future operations in the middle east against ISIS is, of course, entirely coincidence.
Cain, if I haven't said it enough, I LOVE these kinds of posts from you.
Thank you. I enjoy being able to contextualise things.
And just a reminder for our newer members, this thread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24624.0)exists.
So, in case anyone missed this, while Jade Helm appears to be an American-originated conspiracy theory (as far as I can tell), after it was popularised by Alex Jones, it was picked up on and spread by Russian disinfo networks on social media
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/03/martial-law-scare-russian-bots-michael-hayden-jade-helm
Quote"There was an exercise in Texas called Jade Helm 15 that Russian bots and the American alt-right media convinced most – many – Texans that Obama planned to round up political dissidents, and it got so much traction that the governor of Texas had to call up the [state guard] to observe the federal exercise to keep the population calm," said Hayden, who was CIA director from 2006 to 2009 after serving as director of the National Security Agency.
QuoteRumours spread over the internet, now revealed as apparently fuelled by Russian bots, or fake social media accounts controlled by individuals or software applications. These were not discouraged by high-profile figures including Ted Cruz, the US senator, who said he understood "the reason for concern and uncertainty", and the actor Chuck Norris, who described it as "likely more than a military exercise".
I will be forever disappointed that President Obama didn't close down a military base in Texas, to allay the fears of the denizens citizens of that bizarre state.
Anyway, is it too late to cede Texas back to Mexico? For humanity's sake, I believe we should at least try.
Then, we can give Trump's the money to build his wall around the Mexican state of Texas. Win-Win!
I thought jade helm was supposed to be a psy-op with hundreds (or thousands?) of undercover agents trying to get a feel for what citizens "really think"
No, that's what anonymous polling is for. Why would you waste tens of millions of dollars an a year of planning on a series of military exercises to find out "what people think", when you can do it for a few thousand? Shit, you could probably just run sentiment analysis softwarre under the top 100 linked stories on social media platforms, cut out the polling altogether and move straight to data analysis.
It was pretty blatantly an exercise for SOCOM to prepare for the liberation of northern Iraq from the ISIS "caliphate".
Why would waste tens of millions? This is the U.S. military you're talking about.
Not everybody tells the truth if they know they're being polled. Even if its anonymous.
But, now that you mention it, I do remember hearing about being a liberation type drill, too.
It sure seems like talking to the public undercover was part of it though - sort of a "learn who's on what side in a non confrontational way" technique.
Also- jade helm was a false flag WHAT ARE THEY DISTRACTING US FROM???
:roll: