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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:14:12 PM

Poll
Question: Which party should my presentation be on?
Option 1: Democrats votes: 1
Option 2: Republicans votes: 1
Option 3: Green votes: 3
Option 4: Libertarian votes: 3
Option 5: Constitution votes: 4
Option 6: Other votes: 0
Title: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
Alright, dudes, time to make me famous.

I have to do a presentation on one of the US political parties. My first instinct was to go Green, as their platform is most agreeable to me right now. I also thought Republican would be fun, my teacher needs more lulz in her class.

I can do another party, but she said we have to first be able to justify it. I think I can do that, so I'm open to it. Whatever your choice, please explain why you chose, I need to know what angle to take. The poll is weighted by argument.

Two votes because we get to pick in random order, our first choice may be blocked.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
Alright, dudes, time to make me famous.

I have to do a presentation on one of the US political parties. My first instinct was to go Green, as their platform is most agreeable to me right now. I also thought Republican would be fun, my teacher needs more lulz in her class.

I can do another party, but she said we have to first be able to justify it. I think I can do that, so I'm open to it. Whatever your choice, please explain why you chose, I need to know what angle to take. The poll is weighted by argument.

Two votes because we get to pick in random order, our first choice may be blocked.

Constitution Party.  They're the funniest bunch of right-wing freedom-hating whackjobs out there.  They make the fucking teabaggers look sane.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2012, 10:19:37 PM
If you're allowed to go historical, you absolutely have to go with the Anti-Masonic Party.

If modern, the Objectivist Party.  They're formed of people who consider the Libertarian Party to be dangerously liberal and subversive to free market principles.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Constitution Party.  They're the funniest bunch of right-wing freedom-hating whackjobs out there.  They make the fucking teabaggers look sane.

Nice. I know nothing about them, it would force me to research.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 27, 2012, 10:19:37 PM
If you're allowed to go historical, you absolutely have to go with the Anti-Masonic Party.

If modern, the Objectivist Party.  They're formed of people who consider the Libertarian Party to be dangerously liberal and subversive to free market principles.

Damn, I need to see this.

There is a confirmed Libertarian in the class, and he's easy to troll. I obviously considered being a dick by taking it, but going even further right would be a great move. I'd love to call him liberal.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Constitution Party.  They're the funniest bunch of right-wing freedom-hating whackjobs out there.  They make the fucking teabaggers look sane.

Nice. I know nothing about them, it would force me to research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on September 27, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Constitution Party.  They're the funniest bunch of right-wing freedom-hating whackjobs out there.  They make the fucking teabaggers look sane.

Nice. I know nothing about them, it would force me to research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)

Enjoy.

George Wallace in the first paragraph. Outstanding. We may have a leader.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2012, 10:27:11 PM
Their economic policy is:

QuoteFREE MARKET CAPITALISM: We advocate a completely free market with no government interference. We oppose tariffs, embargoes, rent controls, wage controls, corporate taxes and all other forms of government interference in private businesses. We oppose any and all legislation which forces or "encourages" employers to hire employees based on any standard other than their ability to perform the required tasks (e.g. affirmative action). We oppose any and all legislation which forces banks to lend money to unqualified candidates (e.g. the Community Reinvestment Act). We oppose all government bureaucracy which interferes with the rights of individual citizens to contract freely with businesses and individuals of their choice (e.g. the Food and Drug Administration), and we radically oppose the socialization of ANY industry in the United States and its territories, especially the health care industry.

TAXATION: We advocate a flat-rate income tax at both the Federal and State levels. We oppose all sales tax, property tax and progressive income tax structure. We radically oppose all tax-funded welfare programs, including but not limited to medicare, medicaid, government subsidized housing, and food stamps. 

That said, the Constitution Party is both larger and funnier.  Not to mention heavily linked with crazy survivalist militia groups.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2012, 10:27:35 PM
QuoteThe party opposes same-sex marriage, and believes state and local governments have the right to criminalize "offensive sexual behavior".
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 27, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Free soil party.  All politics since them has been merely footnotes.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: Freeky on September 28, 2012, 02:34:40 AM
Constitution and Lbertarian parties FOR THE LULZ!
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: LMNO on September 28, 2012, 01:26:05 PM
The COnstitution party is fucking nuts.  You should do it.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 29, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
Guns and Dope party. Explains itself.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: Freeky on September 29, 2012, 05:18:33 AM
RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH PARTY.

THAT ONE.

RIGHT TGE FUCK NOW.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on September 29, 2012, 05:29:54 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on September 29, 2012, 05:18:33 AM
RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH PARTY.

THAT ONE.

RIGHT TGE FUCK NOW.
This got some consideration, because Jimmy McMillan

But constitution is looking strong now. The hate is bubbling in from so many minds.
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: hunter s.durden on October 09, 2012, 04:41:23 AM
Today was judgement day, and it was decided:
I will be doing a 15 minute presentation on the Constitution Party.

I am now taking requests.
Do I act sarcastic and critical?
Do I pretend to support them (my teacher is fairly blatantly liberal, and I'm doing horribly in this class)?
Magic trick (I got a 76 on the last one about Military Dictatorships; I need to up the WOW! FactoR!!!!1
Title: Re: Help: Political Science
Post by: LMNO on October 09, 2012, 12:47:17 PM
From http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,33244.0.html

I think you should shoot for DH7: Improve the Argument, then Refute Its Central Point. Black Belt Bayesian writes: "If you're interested in being on the right side of disputes, you will refute your opponents' arguments. But if you're interested in producing truth, you will fix your opponents' arguments for them. To win, you must fight not only the creature you encounter; you [also] must fight the most horrible thing that can be constructed from its corpse."

So, describe the CP without snark, point out some flaws, improve the party model, then tear that down.  If you frame it right, it'll be a roller coaster of appearances: first you're neutral, then you're against it, then you seem to be supporting it, and finally, you knock the house of cards to the ground and set it on fire.