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Or Kill Me / Schilda's horse
« on: November 17, 2020, 10:04:01 am »
It has been made known to us, that the inhabitants of Schilda were in possession of a horse whose vigour for work made them very satisfied, and that they only had only one thing to reproach it: it consumed too much oat, expensive oat

They decided to take away this bad habit of his benevolently, reducing day by day its ration by several stalks until it was habituated to complete abstinence.

For a time, everything went greatly. The horse was accustomed to not eating, except a single daily stalk, and at last the next day it would work without the need of any.

That morning they found the treacherous animal dead; the inhabitants of Schilda could not explain the reason behind its death.

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Aneristic Illusions / A brief history of mind control
« on: August 28, 2019, 06:55:50 am »
(This version I'm presenting here is nowhere near the quality or lenght of what i will publish eventually, but here it goes)

A BRIEF HISTORY OF MIND CONTROL

From doing a lot of research, I have come to the consideration that there have existed 3 main theoretical/practical lines that have given birth to modern "mind control" (loosely defined ofc):

THE MESMER LINE

One of the most earlier lines relates to Franz Anton Von Mesmer, whom in 1775 cured a case of "demonic possession" thru other means than exorcism, thus opening up a new understanding of the processes behind such incidents (historiographically this event is sometimes designated as the birth of dynamic psychiatry).

This line was further develoved by Abbé Faria and James Braid, speaking of hypnosis and suggestion rather than "animal magnetism".

Even further down the line, this was picked up by Ambroise Lieaubeault which was the founder of the Nancy School of Hypnosis (Hippolyte Bernheim became his student and collaborator)... meanwhile in France, Jean Martin Charcot founded the Salpetriere School of Hypnosis, but more focused on the study of hysteria... and Sigmund Freud was influenced by both of these schools and lines of thought, he actually practiced hypnosis and suggestion before his theorical and practical modifications that later on resulted in psychoanalysis.

And from Sigmund Freud, sprang out Anna Freud and Edward Bernays... Anna Freud developed this thing called "Ego Psychology" which promoted "social adaptation", which would imply that the criterion for mental health would be being "well adjusted to social and moral norms" and influenced a lot of thinkers/authors alongside public policy... meanwhile, Edward Bernays turned the uses of political propaganda from the use against enemies, towards the utilization of the same methods domestically in times of peace - his works were utilized by Goebbels for the orchestration of the campaign against the Jews in Germany, influenced public opinion during elections in favour and against presidential candidates and basically got everyone on board for the invasion of Guatemala and the coup d'etat against Jacobo Arbenz, and helped the CIA with its propaganda operations.

China

"Re-education" and "thought reform" have its origins in China, and it can be traced back to Confucianism (or at least an adaptation of it), principles of purity of thought, sincerity being equated as absolute submission, the forced confessions of prisoners before their trials, etc etc

But the more solid origins can be traced to the time of the communist uprising of Mao, in which they adopted soviet strategies of "agitation and propaganda", but developed some of their own: when they captured low rank enemy soldiers, instead of brutalizing them, they would treat them well and have hours upon hours of conversation with them, inciting them to vent their frustrations with the regime and chain of command they served, and then they were told the Kuomintang's failures and deficiencies, and were given the option to join the cause or to support their efforts as a civilian; with higher ranked officials they talked about their specific place and position in the context of the civil war... and thru these trial and errors they developed an intricate methodology that got refined over time.

When the war was over and they were victorious, these techniques took a turn from friendly persuasion into pure violence and torture, which was utilized over foreign prisoners, domestic intellectuals and any trouble-maker they deemed as deviating from the glorious revolution. They were imprisoned, forced to confess to false crimes, criticized until they were a broken shell of a person and started to believe in anything they were fed... on average, prisoners that went thru "re-education"/"thought reform", graduated after 3 years on average... of course some never made it out.

And even though these camps allegedly stopped functioning a long time ago, there's an entire book dedicated to interviews of victims of this process that is documented in Robert Lifton's book "Thought reform and the psychology of totalism: a study of brainwashing in China", which although published in 1961, it details interviews from 1953 that he did with some 40 different people that suffered thru the process.

Perhaps after the 60's they toned it down, but how can we even know? As of today, in Xinjiang the practice of "re-education" camps still prevails, althought it is mainly directed against chinese Uighurs, as documented by the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48667221/inside-china-s-thought-transformation-camps

The Soviets

There's a line of thought that is attributed to Stalin called "transformism" which may or may not predate him, but there's also Lysenkoism, Minchurism, and Neo-Pavlovism

Transformism is the idea that all objects (which includes humans) have no inner drives or motivations, and that their form or behaviour or even ideas, are the consequences of the external forces of reality that act upon them... which has parallels to Lysenkoism/Minchurism in the realm of genetics, which minimizes the importance or relevance of genetics, while overemphazising the "environment".

This is where Neo-Pavlovism comes in, as a mindset of what should be done to the population at large, which is conditioning them and creating an environment that would determine their configuration... either thru education, psychological treatment, propaganda or public policy. Overall with the motto of "Adapt or die".

CIA and MKULTRA

The newly formed CIA learned from all of these experiences and events... the russian Show Trials had high profile officials confessing and admitting their (alleged) crimes shamefully and with regret...american pows that came back from the Korean War presented this ideological change, apparently having become communists themselves even after being liberated and coming back to their homeland... the Guatemalan operation was a resounding success...

So the CIA formed their own program in 1953, MKULTRA, allegedly to experiment with advanced interrogation techniques, but their scope was much broader, they wanted to develop techniques of "brain-washing" and how to control someone beyond their conscious will.

The new invention of LSD was a godsend, so they setup dozens of safehouses to experiment with the homeless, prostitutes and drug addicts... then they moved on to experiment with their own, with members of the army, and funded research programs in universities.

They also funded Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron in Canada, in his Allan Memorial Institute, where he drugged patients to sleep for up to 2 consequtive months, while playing tape recorders in an infinite loop, and doing electro-convulsive therapy... all with the supposed purpose of curing peoples mental disorders, thru what he called "depatterning" and "psychic driving".

Conclusions

Manipulating people has always existed, and perhaps religion has historically been the greatest offender... but mostly they play a game of abusing people's illussions, hopes, desires and fears, etc.

What changed from Mesmer onwards in the late XVIIIth century, lead to what happened between 1860 and 1973... the calculated and scientific technification of manipulation of human thoughts and the mind.

I really do wonder what kind of bullshit has happened from 1970's onwards that we don't even know about.

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Or Kill Me / Your audience doesn't care
« on: April 22, 2019, 03:38:22 pm »
And you shouldnt care about if they care or not either.

Is expression intrinsecally an act of communication? I propose that it is not.

This repugnant person named Anna Freud once said, that when we express ourselves we are trascending our "autistic tendencies" towards a social "communication directed towards others", to be recognized and praised by others... but she was wrong in this as she was wrong in so many other things.

If the only thing that differentiates an "autistic activity" which is gratifying but without form, from an elaborate  polished product, is the search from self gratification to a gratification by others, then they cant be technically called too different from one another. Its the same godamn thing, its all the ultimate search for gratification, be it in a masturbatory manner in the first sense or a voyeuristic masturbatory manner in the second sense. Not only one would be jacking off for pleasure, but demanding that those observing like it! How unreasonably demanding!

Perhaps the real mark of craftmanship is about transforming this formless idea that you have in your mind, and making it tangible, polishing, correcting and perfecting it in the process... its like diving for jewels from a wrecked ship in the ocean that is our mind, which we retrieve and then restore them to their former glory.

Thinking about an audience in the creative process and seeking for them to accept or even worse, to praise your work is just pure corrupting madness... its the perspective of a salesman or a seducer, that implies stooping low to the stylistics, themes and fantasies of the lowest common denominator.

At what point, does thinking about your potential or current audience, degrades your entire work into a glorified type of "fanservice"?

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Apple Talk / Joh'Nyx: the Netflix Remake
« on: March 03, 2019, 10:42:06 pm »

I felt nostalgic about all of us playing "Spiders" and "Wererwolf Village" years ago, so i came back  :lulz:

Jokes aside, wanted to know hows everyone doing, and that im here for all your south-of-The-Walltm and psychological needs


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Aneristic Illusions / "El Chapo" escapes prison AGAIN.
« on: July 12, 2015, 11:49:35 pm »

http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias/2015/07/150712_mexico_chapo_guzman_fuga_detalles_wbm.shtml

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One year ago, after recapturing Joaquín Guzmán Loera, "El Chapo", mexican authorities assured there didnt exist the possibility that the druglord would escape again.

But it wasnt as they said.

 :lulz:

A year and a half later, a mile of quality tunnels 30ft under the ground, leading directly to the showers and hes gone again.

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Aneristic Illusions / Texas Ranger Teacher
« on: March 01, 2015, 08:14:41 pm »
http://rt.com/usa/228003-texas-bill-kill-students/

In the future, not turning in homework and failing an exam might mean YOUR DEATH.

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Apple Talk / Sobriety vs. Disconnection (beating a dead horse)
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:19:18 am »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-real-cause-of-addicti_b_6506936.html

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It is now one hundred years since drugs were first banned -- and all through this long century of waging war on drugs, we have been told a story about addiction by our teachers and by our governments. This story is so deeply ingrained in our minds that we take it for granted. It seems obvious. It seems manifestly true. Until I set off three and a half years ago on a 30,000-mile journey for my new book, Chasing The Scream: The First And Last Days of the War on Drugs, to figure out what is really driving the drug war, I believed it too. But what I learned on the road is that almost everything we have been told about addiction is wrong -- and there is a very different story waiting for us, if only we are ready to hear it.

....

But in the 1970s, a professor of Psychology in Vancouver called Bruce Alexander noticed something odd about this experiment. The rat is put in the cage all alone. It has nothing to do but take the drugs. What would happen, he wondered, if we tried this differently? So Professor Alexander built Rat Park. It is a lush cage where the rats would have colored balls and the best rat-food and tunnels to scamper down and plenty of friends: everything a rat about town could want. What, Alexander wanted to know, will happen then?

Yes yes i know, drugs, and yes yes, double-crossed for making a point by citing a behaviourist, BUT, its such a short and well constructed argument as to how drugs in themselves are not the devil's seed, but rather the fertile soil which is alienation is what can make addiction flourish instead of it merely being a recreational activity.

I could possibly make it an interesting sob story as to why it caught my eye but i bore myself... some solid points as to why criminalization is a doomed and ignorant approach and that it serves nefarious purposes rather than "the children", etc.

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Apple Talk / Dating someone who is depressed.
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:16:31 am »
I usually like to keep my problems to myself, because usually its very clear to me what needs to be done, but it is not the case now... specially since i havent dated in ages out of lack of interest or time, im a bit out of touch not only in the general but also the specific sense, and ive seen a lot of you are experienced in multitude of dating scenarios.

I dont know where to start. Its about a specific girl named F.

I met F around 2006,  when i lived with my alcoholic bandmates when i was a bit of a druggie. She split from her home and cqme to live in the house, and we hit it off from day one, and we shared my room from day one... 4 months later she split to Cancun ot live with her ex gf from her teenage years, but she was not well received... came back to me, spent 2 more months together... then i got fucking done with life itself, took my things one night, left the band, quit drugs, lived in seclusion in the middle of nowhere, amd shortly after leaving for the cqpitol and started university.

Over the years she intermittently reached out to me thru email, and we sporadically went out, something like once a year, no bad blood, just myself having no interest other than school itself.

In january 2014 we had a chance encounter in the streets of her city, where my family lives, in vacations. Since then weve been in contact thru messages and since July, i think it was, weve gone out around 10 times. 3 times when i came to do some business inthe city. The rest of the times since i left the capitol to return to live to this city.

Idk, shes told me she dropped out of university after two years to watch over her mother which sometimes passes out, has a crappy job but with flexible schedules, and around 3 months ago she quit drugs, so im sure that feels pretty bad too.

And well, last tuesday when i asked her out she told me she felt bad, that she didnt feel like doing anything, and that she was going absentee for an (undetermined) while.

And i dont know how i should take it, i mean, i really enjoy her company, we have a lot of fun together and we have no trouble spending half a day togther justdoing whatever, were both not fond of large groups of people or peple in general and a lot of stuff regarding biography amd interests. Some days she has told me she feels bad and doesnt want to go out, but every time i go unnanounced im always well received.

 :?


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Apple Talk / Nazi Killer Cows in the UK !!!!!
« on: January 10, 2015, 08:53:57 am »
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30703082

I really thought BBC was renowed for its quality content but omg

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Apple Talk / Homosexuals barred from driving in Russia
« on: January 10, 2015, 08:48:20 am »
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30735673

Among others... this aint April Fools nor dia de los inocentes, wtf? Ruskia jump the shark.

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Apple Talk / Female PUAs equivalent?
« on: January 09, 2015, 01:13:24 am »

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Apple Talk / MY NAME IS PHIL DAVISON
« on: January 06, 2015, 08:11:40 am »

I would vote for him, wouldn't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsCe2LIYkNo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLiS1n2GqU4

As others may or may not have noticed, what recently makes my toes curl is not great arguments that give one the feeling of "wow, such amaze, very impress" or some FOX caliber conservative radical... no, rather i live for the arguments that catch you like a bass in spring - and then the discourse takes a sharp turn, making you cringe and clench your teeth in loathing...

This person starts analysing in a matter worthy of Bruno Bettelheim in his "The uses of enchantment: the meaning and importance of fairy tales" - but at some point, his interpretations stop making sense as they lose a basis to support them, starts talking about real people, then groups of people and goes off the deep end...

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Apple Talk / Female Spider-Woman Cover: "I don't even" arguments edition
« on: September 15, 2014, 06:55:54 pm »

To be honest, I couldnt care less about comics, I bring this up rather for the amusement of the arguments that arose around the given issue... Its like Rhetorics 101 if you ask me!

The important points is how this person brings up important facts that debunk general opposition stance which is hypocritical and uninformed, but then proceeds to make some very strange argumentative square dancing which will leave nobody satisfied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q

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Like, have you people ever used qualitative analysis programs (NVivo, MAXQDA) that you could recommend?

I personally think NVivo is utter garbage, but MAXQDA seems very user friendly, ofc thats only from experience from using their Demos for like 5 days and im gonna be working with material of over 1000 pages, so any suggestion is welcome.

I dont have much experience using this kind of software, everything ive done "by hand" so to speak (Word, copy paste much) and with materials of 200ish pages at most.

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