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You two are pathetic.

How dare you attempt to involve him in this? Tell me in what manner he has had any part in any dispute you have ever had with me.Tell the whole forum just how you justify this calling him out in public on a board where I would warrant every regular user appreciates his contribution; his humour, his intelligence and his good nature.

Over something he has no knowledge of or control over.

Grow the fuck up and fight your own battles.

Hey Charley


Dok seems quiet tonight...cat got his tongue or what?

Just a bit busy at work¹.  Did you have something to say, or were you just here to brag about how your "avvie" is somehow offensive?  Anything of substance, or just more monkey howling?




¹  It's this thing some of us have to do, on occasion.

See? Punk as fuck

Hey Charley


Dok seems quiet tonight...cat got his tongue or what?

Replying to this thread, just because you know it'll piss people off to see your avvy..?

You know, there is a study I read, a long time ago, in which people managed to make themselves look very smart by asking questions about random facts that only they knew. Apparently the onlookers only noticed that the askers knew and the answerers didn't, and failed to adjust for the unfairness of the underlying game.

But I'm sure Eartha-ly isn't trying to change the topic from her earlier hilariously ill-informed conspiracy theorizing to ground she feels safer on in order to try and prove her superior intellect.

And besides, everyone knows science is bourgeoise, and Eurocentric.

I stand by my conspiracy theories you arrogant little arsewipe.....mine have at least more basis in fact than the awe inspiringly paranoid ones disseminated here in the last 24-36 hours. The Great Eartha/Capt Utopia Sub Continental Take Over Conspiracy...remember that one?

Christ it sounded like a meeting of Paranoid Delusionals Anonymous.

And I will also point out that there are a great deal more than a tiny number of people who are bright enough to know that not all Indians are Hindu...but that most of them do traditionally eat chili.....Such people are just not often found on pd apparently.

Oh and the reason why I seemed to hate Dok as much as that Utopia dude did is simple...Dok is really good at inspiring hatred. Seems to be one of his few natural talents.

Spoofing pagan porn fiction is certainly not one of them.

**Yawns** Even he got bored with it.

Well I have had people butt hurt by that Vindaloo in the past, but never quite in this fashion.

I would like to clarify a few things on the subject of India, Cows, Chilis and Faith. Oh and some basic geography and world history lessons need to be taken first.. Just Junior High Stuff...nothing too challenging.


Now I foolishly thought that the title of a thread being VINDALOO CONTEST denoted some kind of invitation for people to enter different versions of a similar recipe and see whose was hottest. I was so wrong. Freaky obviously meant it was a competition to see who could lick her arse hardest about what a master chef she is.

Equally vain was my expectation that at least a few of you had heard of Goa or knew something of basic European Colonial History. No one does apparently. Not even Cain or One Eye...and at first glance they seemed half bright.. How sad for you all that your Laureates turn out to be wanting.

Now One Eye, so erudite and well informed yet he apparently doesn't know that Goa, on the Northernmost coastal tip of India, was colonised by the Portuguese in the 15th Century. Its population are as a result, primarily Muslim and Christian. Both of which faith groups eat beef. I think you'll all agree, that point about religious demographics is germane to refuting many of the criticisms I received on the beef issue.

Very few Hindus live in the region....they are by way of being quite the tiny minority. Many of them have relocated from the South....  public servants and Military administrators etc...There are quite a few of them there, but they tend to leave again after retirement and go home. So with a two generation Hindu presence (Just those Admin workers and their wives and children) the Hindu population and cultural influence in Goa is small and pocketed.

Being in Northern India the region can be somewhat volatile, though it is cushioned from a lot of strife by a strong regional culture of tolerance, good agriculture and tourism, which has made it quite prosperous. Its cities are very clean and far less crowded than one finds in the South. They are famous for their cooking. Goan food is renowned as sublime and they give cookery lessons in many of the better hotels, just so tourists can experience real Goan cuisine and gain knowledge about Goan culture and history by doing so.

It obviously was $150 well spent for me, as I seem to know ever so much more about the region than any of you.

So no, One Eye...they don't "worship cows or some shit". They do however, eat quite a bit of beef there. From my experiences in the region, I found that they do indeed regard the partaking of dead cow and chili to be quite a traditional element to their lives.

The chili you see, was brought to India when the Portuguese dropped off the first lot of colonists...so again, approx 500 years or more. Now I hope you all do see that 500 years of eating a thing makes it quite the tradition...well in most cultures anyway.

Now should you go, any of you, to Goa (as if) and attempt to tell those people that they worship cows and chili is not a traditional food, I suspect they would have words to say back on the issue.

In fact, please try it. I dare ya. I double dare ya!
Esp. Dok. I'd like to see him say that to a Goan chef. But I hope he can fucken run.

And Cain. This is just for you dear: The powder you buy "all over India" is hotter than fuck and is NOT cayenne based. Cayenne is one of the many varieties of chili that did NOT make it to India with the Portuguese.

The most popular form of chilli in India is the Jwala. A long, slender chili which when unripe has a deep green colour and turns to red as it ripens. Jwala means "Volcano" in Hindi and is extremely pungent.

But the chili which is most often dried and powdered in India, sometimes smoked and dried, and which may look like Cayenne powder but is many times hotter than it, comes from the birdseye, or Dhani chili. As I said. It is not cayenne powder you "find all over India" for the simple reason that cayenne is a pussy's chili...far too mild for the Indian palate. Dhani are also called "Devils Chilis" after their fiery pungency.

Both of these varieties of chili are far hotter than the Cayenne. I know this not due to the miracles of superficial web research, (thank you Nigel for the short lesson at EBG on New World Foods)  but because I learned to cook Indian food from Indian people. From Sikhs and Hindus, Muslims and Christians, Jains and Buddhists. Its a very mufti faith society,  innit?? And multi cuisined as well. (yes I know cuisined is not a word, but it ought to be)

I am sure Cain, you would know that though...being so perceptive and devastatingly bright as you are...and so sensitive to cultural mores and all...had you been to India yourself, rather than relying on gastronomic reports from those of your associates who appear to be more adventurous than you in their choice of holiday destination.

So back we go to my suspicion that this joint might be just the tiniest bit Amerocentrist , innit? For even people with a Eurocentrist view of the world, would have had some high school level knowledge of the culture and religions in former Portuguese colonies such as Goa...being that it's, well you know, a reasonably important period of world history.

And those with an even more inclusive world view might have known, somewhere deep deep down, that not all 1 billion Indians are Hindus.

Now how on earth did I have the temerity to suggest you're all a pack of xenophobic dumb cunts?


Thank you for the patience and courtesy vitriolic abuse, adolescent name calling and paranoid ravings with which I am sure this information will be received.




And no I am sorry, but no matter how hard I try I simply cannot go fuck myself.
I only wish I could. It would have saved me listening to men snore over the years.


(NB: The conspiracy theory shit was comedy gold btw...thanks for that...the Indian-IP-address-inspired-panic section of the skit was especially entertaining.)

I was mistaken...and I was corrected...not caught.

Caught implies that I had meant to misrepresent the facts. I did not. I stated the facts as I believed them to be. When I had verified that I was in error I made haste to correct that mistake.

Lying and being mistaken are two quite different things...unless you're on pd and people with limited vocabularies and hyper sensitive egos are searching for epithets to fling at you, apparently.

Why would I have lied about something which Nigel posting a link to EBG would have shown up?

It was in the other thread, you dipshit. And it's still there.

Well then Nigel I humbly submit to you that there is something I have said in this thread that was unjust, uncalled for and needs an apology made for it.

I am sorry.

Just the one though.

WYF? This thread went to hell didn't it?

Yes, ED is my friend. You all all wrong about her politics though, she is more socialist/communist than anything. She doesn't hold back much either, says what's on her mind.

She is doing some amazing writing in Life Stories/Blogs at EB&G.

Personally I hope she sticks around.

Oh no sweety. I am a dyed in the wool anarchist. My family were communist/socialist. They hated the anarchy thing too. These people think they can name call? Hell they never been to one of my family party political debates.

But it has been edifying to find out why Nigel suddenly didn't think that Lost Things was a post she needed her name attached to.... well not when she'd told a fucktard cuntfaced idiot that it was beautifully told and incredibly well written, eh?

As I said Charley....don't worry about it. I think it's all vastly amusing, except that it's seemed to upset you. I just want you to get well.

I am however really chuffed that they kept going at it for hours after I logged off and got on with an actual life. Nice to know you've made an impact, innit?

I assume that by "got on with an actual life" you mean "frothing for a few hours about WHY THESE PEOPLE JUST DONT SEE IT YOUR WAY"

I mean, what does an anarchist do in Australia, for fuck's sake? how does one fight the power in the most benign western democracy going?

C'MON YOU BLOODY DINGOS, I'VE CUT ANOTHER HOLE IN THE FENCE!
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Well I laughed at one point till a little bit of pee came out, if that counts as frothing.

And anyone who can describe Australia as one of the most benign democracies in the western world has never seen inside one of the detention centres where children sew their lips together in desperate attempts to have the populace see how they are silenced. Where mentally ill inmates are left to self harm and jump from roofs. Where child molesters are held side by side with unaccompanied children.

Or spent time in an Indigenous Community, beset by alcohol and drug abuse, systemic child sexual assault, petrol sniffing, domestic violence and malnutrition. Where they have 300 school age kids and a school equipped to handle fewer than 50 students. No running water. No electricity. No sewerage system or garbage collection services. Where there are infant mortality rates akin to those in Central Africa and where life expectancy is 20 years lower than it is in the white community beside it.

See....Amerrocentrism once again. We're really nice to the Yank tourists and are keen to send our armies off in support of your own so we must be okay.

And who did remove that post then Nigel? Charley doesn't seem to know either, and it is his board...so surely if a Mod had done it he would have been informed?

WYF? This thread went to hell didn't it?

Yes, ED is my friend. You all all wrong about her politics though, she is more socialist/communist than anything. She doesn't hold back much either, says what's on her mind.

She is doing some amazing writing in Life Stories/Blogs at EB&G.

Personally I hope she sticks around.

Oh no sweety. I am a dyed in the wool anarchist. My family were communist/socialist. They hated the anarchy thing too. These people think they can name call? Hell they never been to one of my family party political debates.

But it has been edifying to find out why Nigel suddenly didn't think that Lost Things was a post she needed her name attached to.... well not when she'd told a fucktard cuntfaced idiot that it was beautifully told and incredibly well written, eh?

As I said Charley....don't worry about it. I think it's all vastly amusing, except that it's seemed to upset you. I just want you to get well.

I am however really chuffed that they kept going at it for hours after I logged off and got on with an actual life. Nice to know you've made an impact, innit?

Im not RL friends with people here, so i can, without personal interest, say that you making remarks about stalking Charley, and taunting Dok, arent good grounds for a serious discussion.

Also, Cain is pretty much a professional in regards to politics and i would suggest you reevaluate on what he mentions are weak arguments.

Bear in thought that you then went on to paint a picture of us as middle class apologists, all of us, so we take that as an insult.

So yeah, reevaluate all this and think on why people are acting the way they are.

Charley has adopted me as his pet stalker in fact. He even connected to me on facebook. I didn't connect to him...He uite likes me. I guess you'll try to put paid to that, but I have a feeling that Charley has a mind of his own and might make that decision for himself.

and taunting DOK??....fuck off. I have appeared on fewer than a dozen posts where he even was involved in the discussion and apart from this debacle here have interacted directly with him once. When I tried to subtly point out to Jenkem whatsherface that cayenne pepper is not considered an authentic Indian spice in India...and they got all butt hurt about it

Have I threatened poor old Dok now? Will he need to ban me in case I leap out a cupboard and attack him with a limp naan bread?
What a softcock he must be if he has to call in the troops every time some loud mouthed Aussie slapper gives him a bit of cheek.

If there had been opposing viewpoints they would have been inundated with shit like this one has been...dancing monkeys and pathetically overt attempts to change the topic to how much Dok isn't a guru . Like it always goes here...Discord seems somewhat confused with popular acclaim on this forum. Let's all agree to be discordant ...but only in the same way, innit?

Odd really as I would have thought the oxynmoronic qualities of that stand were fairly obvious.

Yes . Extremely articulate. My ego is mortally wounded by that rapier like thrust of wit. Rush me to the burns unit will you? I haven't felt pain like this since year 9 when Alice Freeman said I was flat chested.

Amerocentrist is not a term which means being an American. Nor does it mean one necessarily resides within America.

It is a term which means focusing primarily on the issues and events which are central to American politics and American military and economic interests.

And this site is most certainly that.

The board may well have lit up with talk of London now. But I waited 4 days to hear something insightful said on the matter here and it hadn't rated more than a passing mention.

Possibly there is another school of thought within Discordianism.....maybe even more than one other... which diverges from your own narrowly defined conception of the thing.

Perhaps in some of those anarchy is very much a central concern. Though I suspect that should you lot ever come across such a school of thought, or any of those who espouse its philosophies you'd flame and belittle them too.

I've come to the conclusion that the problem with this particular group for my purposes is that its far too Americentrist to be of interest.
Your understanding of and curiosity about geopolitics on pd seems to vacillate only throughout the regions sandwiched between Tijuana and Toronto.

But I'm quite confident that popular opinion on pd will be that I'm wrong about that too.
Popular opinion here seeming to be the only thing that resonates.

Funny that, for a group who claim to pride themselves on liking a bit of disharmony....atonal elements aren't really welcome  are they?