My tattoo, done, by a Discordian at a shop called Sacred Chao Tatoo.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/the_veg/DSCN0870.jpg)
There's srsly a place called Sacred Chao tattoo?
Yeah, in Valparaiso, IN.
http://www.myspace.com/sacredchaotattoos
The tattoo artist clearly has technical skill, but unfortunately for your leg, the symbol sucks goatse ass to begin with.
At least you can pull your sock over it.
50 posts, Net.
But do be careful, Certifnord. When THEY start rounding up the weirdos, that tattoo is gonna become awfully suspicious. Also, in accordance with the PD.com Abbreviation Act of the year 1984 ADD, you will be henceforth referred to as CF.
Quote from: Netaungrot on April 19, 2008, 03:37:20 AM
The tattoo artist clearly has technical skill, but unfortunately for your leg, the symbol sucks goatse ass to begin with.
At least you can pull your sock over it.
It can get revamped later with embellishments. Simplicity isn't so bad though, is it?
Personally, I like the symbol.
Wouldn't get it as a tattoo, but whatever floats your boat.
Since getting this tattoo, I am able to balance on one foot. I was also previously able to balance on one foot, but that does not by any means decrease the Significance.
I don't love the symbol, but the tat was done well and in general I have to give props to someone who is willing to brand themselves for life with an obscurely symbolic tattoo representing a joke religion.
It actually means alot more to me than that. I am a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, and I've gone through years of hell, and Discordianism is what freed me from that. So not only does it symbolize to me the balance between order and chaos, which I think is very important, but it's also a symbol of my acceptance and love of my brain, and it celebrates the fun I have with my paranoia, and it keeps me in check. I got it so that I would never again become a slave of the curse of the Greyface.
Congratulations then. I bet Omar and Mal never dreamed they'd have that kind of effect on anybody.
I wonder if they spent more than about 10s designing the Sacred Chao symbol....
Quote from: Certifnord on April 19, 2008, 06:33:39 AM
It actually means alot more to me than that. I am a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, and I've gone through years of hell, and Discordianism is what freed me from that. So not only does it symbolize to me the balance between order and chaos, which I think is very important, but it's also a symbol of my acceptance and love of my brain, and it celebrates the fun I have with my paranoia, and it keeps me in check. I got it so that I would never again become a slave of the curse of the Greyface.
I know some paranoid scizophrenics.
They're good people.
Quote from: Felix on April 19, 2008, 04:19:53 AM
Quote from: Netaungrot on April 19, 2008, 03:37:20 AM
The tattoo artist clearly has technical skill, but unfortunately for your leg, the symbol sucks goatse ass to begin with.
At least you can pull your sock over it.
It can get revamped later with embellishments. Simplicity isn't so bad though, is it?
1 - True.
2 - Without wit, wisdom, or innovation, simplicity fails.
Quote from: Certifnord on April 19, 2008, 03:24:06 AM
My tattoo, done, by a Discordian at a shop called Sacred Chao Tatoo.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/the_veg/DSCN0870.jpg)
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
The pentagon is supposed to be tilted somewhat (so that one of the nearly vertical lines in the above pic ARE vertical), to symbolise that neither "left" or "right" hand paths are dominant, or some such. I'm no expert, but that is a fairly fundamental part of the symbol...
what Payne said.
the pentagon forms the middle of a pentagram, for your tattoo it would be a down-pointing pentagram. the sacred chao should depict a pentagon that is neither the center of a pointing-up or pointing down pentagram, but one that sort of points sideways.
Quote from: Payne on April 19, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
Every statement is true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some....
anyway yeah, it's exactly as it should be to me, and I like how it looks on my leg, but I appreciate your semi-constructive negativism.
Quote from: Payne on April 19, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
The pentagon is supposed to be tilted somewhat (so that one of the nearly vertical lines in the above pic ARE vertical), to symbolise that neither "left" or "right" hand paths are dominant, or some such. I'm no expert, but that is a fairly fundamental part of the symbol...
In order to know that, you'd have to determine which way is "up" for the tattoo, and with tattoos "up" can be fairly subjective...
Quote from: Certifnord on April 19, 2008, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Payne on April 19, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
Every statement is true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some....
anyway yeah, it's exactly as it should be to me, and I like how it looks on my leg, but I appreciate your semi-constructive negativism.
Not negativism at all. I just feel that if you are going to ink a symbol on your body, you'd want it to be done correctly.
However, it's none of my business what you do to your body, so..... MEH!
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2008, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: Payne on April 19, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
The pentagon is supposed to be tilted somewhat (so that one of the nearly vertical lines in the above pic ARE vertical), to symbolise that neither "left" or "right" hand paths are dominant, or some such. I'm no expert, but that is a fairly fundamental part of the symbol...
In order to know that, you'd have to determine which way is "up" for the tattoo, and with tattoos "up" can be fairly subjective...
It just looks wrong in relation to the rest of the symbol.
As I'm not the one wearing the thing though, I could really care less beyond that.
I was only pointing out the apparent inconsistancy, not actually criticising him...
Quote from: Jenne on April 18, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
A better place to leave pr0n would be the legislators' offices.
:lulz:
I must admit: I have fleetingly considered incorporating the Chao in to a tattoo, but I decided against the whole tattoo idea, mostly cause (A) no one cares if I have ink and (b) I'm not going to see it after I get it anyway.
I have, however, far more seriously considered making or acquiring some sort of discordia themed jewelry, but I've decided that rather than worry too much about something I'll never really wear and then lose, I should just continue yelling discordian themed things in public to identify myself as discordian.
Few people will recognize the symbols, but many can hear the words (I have a pretty loud voice if I want to.)
Quote from: Akara on April 20, 2008, 05:18:06 PMdiscordia themed jewelry
i think i mentioned this before, but i've been looking for ages for an ouroboros ring. that is, not a ring that has an ouroboros symbol on it or something (i've seen those), but one that actually just consists of a snake biting its own tail, around my finger, nothing more nothing less.
closest i got so far was a crocodile doing the same thing, but i didn't buy it because it was on my holiday in Turkey and the ring was crappy quality and i didn't really have the time to haggle/barter about it.
if I find a ring like this (I know I've seen them) I will either send you the URL, or, if it's locally and not too expensive, see if you might like one sent to you. we have a lot of original jewelry and silver jewelry places out here. I think it helps that a sizable portion of our population is Navajo, Hispanic, and Pueblo indian... either that or New Mexico just attracts hippy freaks that make lots of jewelry... lol
that'd be really cool, thanks :)
certainly! :D
Quote from: Akara on April 20, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I must admit: I have fleetingly considered incorporating the Chao in to a tattoo, but I decided against the whole tattoo idea, mostly cause (A) no one cares if I have ink and (b) I'm not going to see it after I get it anyway.
I have, however, far more seriously considered making or acquiring some sort of discordia themed jewelry, but I've decided that rather than worry too much about something I'll never really wear and then lose, I should just continue yelling discordian themed things in public to identify myself as discordian.
Few people will recognize the symbols, but many can hear the words (I have a pretty loud voice if I want to.)
I got my tats where I can look at them, 'cause I'm selfish that way. :)
I also have a Hand of Eris pendant which I wear a lot.
Trip0: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sterling-Silver-Ouroboros-Snake-Ring_W0QQitemZ230245089408QQihZ013QQcategoryZ67728QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I've been looking at this guy's rings for a while, they look nice.
My tat (getting soon) will be somewhere visible.
My main issue with the OP tat is that, well, hair is gonna grow over it. And then it'll be like mostly gone. And that's silly.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on April 21, 2008, 02:58:18 AM
My tat (getting soon) will be somewhere visible.
My main issue with the OP tat is that, well, hair is gonna grow over it. And then it'll be like mostly gone. And that's silly.
Listen you smooth-skinned twit, some of us hairy fucks have to make do with what we have, okay?!
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on April 21, 2008, 02:58:18 AM
My tat (getting soon) will be somewhere visible.
My main issue with the OP tat is that, well, hair is gonna grow over it. And then it'll be like mostly gone. And that's silly.
Where that tat' is located, in about 50-60 years that are will be bald. Seriously.
Older men go bald around the shins and ankles.
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
I don't love the symbol, but the tat was done well and in general I have to give props to someone who is willing to brand themselves for life with an obscurely symbolic tattoo representing a joke religion.
What joke religion?
Taoism I believe
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 21, 2008, 03:52:12 AM
Taoism I believe
Oh, well. Fuck Taoism. Silly bastards are always trying to hump your leg while they jabber and drool about the "middle of the road" or whatever the hell it is that they're talking about.
They must be doing something right if most of them haven't died in a crash yet.
Quote from: triple zero on April 20, 2008, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: Akara on April 20, 2008, 05:18:06 PMdiscordia themed jewelry
i think i mentioned this before, but i've been looking for ages for an ouroboros ring. that is, not a ring that has an ouroboros symbol on it or something (i've seen those), but one that actually just consists of a snake biting its own tail, around my finger, nothing more nothing less.
closest i got so far was a crocodile doing the same thing, but i didn't buy it because it was on my holiday in Turkey and the ring was crappy quality and i didn't really have the time to haggle/barter about it.
Thats animal cruelty.
Training a snake to bite its own tail, just so you can wear it. For shame.
Quote from: Nigel on April 21, 2008, 02:11:31 AM
Trip0: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sterling-Silver-Ouroboros-Snake-Ring_W0QQitemZ230245089408QQihZ013QQcategoryZ67728QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I've been looking at this guy's rings for a while, they look nice.
cool thanks, that's pretty much exactly what i was looking for!
ok i had actually preferred a slightly heavier ring but this is definitely the closest i've seen so far ;-) on the other hand, i haven't really looked online yet. i hardly ever order stuff from online, so i just didn't thought of it.
this one's also nice, looks slightly more like the common ouroboros symbol:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aes-Sedai-Ouroboros-Infinity-Silver-Snake-Ring_W0QQitemZ160230771013QQihZ006QQcategoryZ110666QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also slightly more expensive--and what's up with these people unable to take decent closeup photos?? you spend all that time making a pretty work of art and you cannot be bothered to make sure the photo is correctly focused? :)
in constrast, the photos on your website are not only sharp, but also look very nice with the grey slightly reflective surface in the background, as opposed to an index finger and a thumb with dirty nails ...
Quote from: Payne on April 19, 2008, 10:54:40 AM
Uh, it's incorrectly done though!
The pentagon is supposed to be tilted somewhat (so that one of the nearly vertical lines in the above pic ARE vertical), to symbolise that neither "left" or "right" hand paths are dominant, or some such. I'm no expert, but that is a fairly fundamental part of the symbol...
BAH.
I wish I could remember the URL of the guy who made my Hand pendant, he makes rings too and I'm pretty sure he had an Ouroboros one.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 21, 2008, 03:49:18 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
I don't love the symbol, but the tat was done well and in general I have to give props to someone who is willing to brand themselves for life with an obscurely symbolic tattoo representing a joke religion.
What joke religion?
I was having the hardest time last night explaining to Boots how something can be a joke and completely legit at the same time. I have some satan-worshipping friends (who are probably Discordian, but also satanists, but not Church of Satan satanists) and I couldn't seem to convey that they're REALLY into Satan, but it's a joke, but they take it seriously.
Apparently he's not cut out for Discordia.
This guy?
http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/home.html
Quote from: Felix on April 21, 2008, 09:10:53 PM
This guy?
http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/home.html
YES that is the guy! Also he was very nice and apparently is open for suggestions.
I'm going to get Nigel's face tattooed multiple times in various places on my body, sometimes three in a row.
Quote from: Nigel on April 21, 2008, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 21, 2008, 03:49:18 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
I don't love the symbol, but the tat was done well and in general I have to give props to someone who is willing to brand themselves for life with an obscurely symbolic tattoo representing a joke religion.
What joke religion?
I was having the hardest time last night explaining to Boots how something can be a joke and completely legit at the same time. I have some satan-worshipping friends (who are probably Discordian, but also satanists, but not Church of Satan satanists) and I couldn't seem to convey that they're REALLY into Satan, but it's a joke, but they take it seriously.
Apparently he's not cut out for Discordia.
This is the problem with lots of cabbages as well. I've talked with LMNO about it before, at EB&G, when we were trying to dissect a certain Pagan mindset. Apparently, not serious = insincerity in your beliefs, was the conclusion I think we came up with.
OK, here we are
Mary: Why would you want to be a real (or fake) religion, anyway? And who cares what a bunch of loser Pagans think?
Religion sucks.
Me: Because fake religion = insincere belief, apparently. Yes, I have been told this more than once, and while its kind of amusing when you first hear, it gets to be a drag reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal fucking fast. And I don't, I care about being lumped in with a bunch of loser Pagans who do not represent my beliefs or the beliefs of many Discordians I know, on a site which is ranked very high in Pagan and Wiccan searches on Google.
LMNO: Cain, that's very interesting. I never really made the connection between fake religion ~ incencere belief. But I'm starting to see that a lot of the arguments I've had have more-or-less clustered around this.
In fact, if I can get some free time, I think this would be a good kernel to start a new wiki section on the BIP site; the fallacy that a do-as-you-please religion means that one's beliefs are incencere.
Most pagans are still working under the protestant work ethic, and they seem to think anything that doesn't require two weeks of fasting, sitting under an ice cold waterfall for five hours, chanting holy names for two days whilst envisioning ones self in a flaming chariot, while at the same time burning fifteen specially selected types of (handmade) incense and focusing on a triangle on the ground drawn in the colours of the entity you are bringing forth is cheating. And, it pisses them off.
Quote from: Epimetheus on April 22, 2008, 04:41:17 AM
I'm going to get Nigel's face tattooed multiple times in various places on my body, sometimes three in a row.
That's kind of hot.
Quote from: Hoopla on April 22, 2008, 12:36:47 PM
Most pagans are still working under the protestant work ethic, and they seem to think anything that doesn't require two weeks of fasting, sitting under an ice cold waterfall for five hours, chanting holy names for two days whilst envisioning ones self in a flaming chariot, while at the same time burning fifteen specially selected types of (handmade) incense and focusing on a triangle on the ground drawn in the colours of the entity you are bringing forth is cheating. And, it pisses them off.
:lulz:
I think you've hit the nail on the head. It's also similar to the "you have to be initiated into a coven to be a Really Real Wiccan" mindset... it irritates people who have jumped through hoops to see others enjoying the exact same results without any hoops, much as it irritates religious people to see non-religious people being all happy and fulfilled without all of the hoops they've convinced themselves are necessary for happiness and fulfillment.
That there's an entire religion that endorses this approach is maddening to people like that, and they want to be able to brush it off as a joke. Therefore it's even more of an affront to them to be told "Well, yes, it's a joke, and it's supposed to be funny, but it's also a real religion and we're not kidding about it". I call this an unliteral truth; that it both is and is not a joke.
If they can't wrap their heads around an unliteral truth, it infuriates them even further because now our "joke" religion that they don't understand appears to have a doctrine or philosophy that eludes them, and since we seem to have a grasp on it, the logical conclusion is that we have a form of enlightenment that they do not, which implies that our "joke" religion actually does have something legit to offer, which makes their heads explode.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/forumspecific/mittenspixelated.jpg)
This is probably one of the better threadjacks I've seen on these forums.
Fuck your tattoo, we're on a roll here.
Quote from: keeper entropic on April 23, 2008, 02:21:08 AM
This is probably one of the better threadjacks I've seen on these forums.
Fuck your tattoo, we're on a roll here.
:lulz:
and to what Nigel said: :mittens:
Quote from: keeper entropic on April 23, 2008, 02:21:08 AM
Fuck your tattoo, we're on a roll here.
I've been trying to fuck half of it since far before I got it.
Quote from: Nigel on April 22, 2008, 12:59:34 AM
Quote from: Felix on April 21, 2008, 09:10:53 PM
This guy?
http://www.markdefrates.com/pages/home.html
YES that is the guy! Also he was very nice and apparently is open for suggestions.
I have the exact same Hand of Eris pendant. My wife got it for me for Xmas and I must say that it's one of the best presents that I've ever received. The Chaosphere pendants also look awesome, yet dangerous.
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
I don't love the symbol, but the tat was done well and in general I have to give props to someone who is willing to brand themselves for life with an obscurely symbolic tattoo representing a joke religion.
ive been meaning to get a picture of the apple behind my ear. (done at mind's eye)
my hair covers it so you really have to look at my skull to see it but yeah
i actually think a pillage to the store would be rather fun test for the first irl safari
you mean "pilgrimage", right?
depends if there is a bar nearby
:| whatever. i found your post quite hard to understand with the mistake you made.
would be nice if you acknowledged that what I thought you intended to write was indeed that, instead of evading the question.
do this often enough and I'll just skip your posts if they dont immediately make sense to me, it's not as if I'd miss out much.
sorry i thought it was implyed
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