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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: P3nT4gR4m on May 24, 2016, 09:45:30 PM

Title: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 24, 2016, 09:45:30 PM
From the department of - what the fuck did I just not even - the platform which gave us deepdream psychedellic landscapes brings one of the most unintentionally funny shorts I've ever watched. Cudos to the maniacs who actually shot it :lulz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7CJz3Ni2M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7CJz3Ni2M)

ETA: There must be potential conspiracy lulz to be had if someone were able to "decode" the "obscure symbolism" and realise that it's a viral, hypnotic pacifier, paving the way for a terminator scenario  :evil:
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 03:04:53 AM
I watched it and wanted to just say something, but I need to watch it a few times with company first. It made my cortex itch BAD. I'm absolutely certain that the AI was constrained from violent storytelling, but the fact that the plot was coherent enough for me to sense that was in itself wild to have to acknowledge.

All of the portrayal and actual shooting/editing was topnotch. More later probably. That last line.... several really, were both dreamlike and brutally objective, but in this case the "storyteller" really was  TRULY disassociated.

This feels like the end of the world, I don't know, I got a really strong sense of deja vu just now.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 25, 2016, 12:42:53 PM
Did the computer dictate the costuming? Because that was some wacky shit.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 25, 2016, 12:56:05 PM
They're saying it wrote the script but I'm guessing it wrote the dialogue. I've read tons of movie scripts and dialogue is probably about 10% of most of them, the lions share being scene and action description and even camera and lighting direction in some. There was a link to the PDF of the script in the article I found this on but it was 404ing last night. I'd be interested to see it, tho.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
It's worth noting I think that they said screenplay. That would be dialog with possible delivery notes, basic blocking, and scene description. I'll have to look into it.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
It's worth noting I think that they said screenplay. That would be dialog with possible delivery notes, basic blocking, and scene description. I'll have to look into it.

I looked. Pdf of script has seemingly been pulled somehow and I can't find any archive. I DID find brief blocking notes and two articles mentioning the eyeball thing being an interpretation of the script.

http://www.roboticstomorrow.com/stream/stories/ (http://www.roboticstomorrow.com/stream/stories/)

http://www.nerdcore.de/2016/05/20/sunspring-shortfilm-from-algorithmic-script/ (http://www.nerdcore.de/2016/05/20/sunspring-shortfilm-from-algorithmic-script/)

Had to dig way more than I thought I would have to to find these. Think that the content of the script in its entirely is something that they don't want to share. I have no idea why, content maybe?
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: minuspace on May 25, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
I dunno, made it to 2:39, then the non-sequiturs hit critical mass.  The regurgitated eyeball was cool, otherwise, no bones/stones to keep it together.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on May 25, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
I dunno, made it to 2:39, then the non-sequiturs hit critical mass.  The regurgitated eyeball was cool, otherwise, no bones/stones to keep it together.

It's worth watching all the way through. One does kinda have to actively NOT look for intended, logical meaning and take it for an abstract both in plot and dialog. Weird thing is, the AI got much symbolism packed into the nonsense at least as well as humans that try to tap that kind of thinking. If I hadn't been informed that it was an AI that assembled this I would probably have never guessed. I really figured nonsense with a certain intent to sensible meaning was a strictly human thing. Starting to think I was wrong about that.

Machines can poetry,
if somewhat clunkily. :)
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: minuspace on May 26, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on May 25, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
I dunno, made it to 2:39, then the non-sequiturs hit critical mass.  The regurgitated eyeball was cool, otherwise, no bones/stones to keep it together.

It's worth watching all the way through. One does kinda have to actively NOT look for intended, logical meaning and take it for an abstract both in plot and dialog. Weird thing is, the AI got much symbolism packed into the nonsense at least as well as humans that try to tap that kind of thinking. If I hadn't been informed that it was an AI that assembled this I would probably have never guessed. I really figured nonsense with a certain intent to sensible meaning was a strictly human thing. Starting to think I was wrong about that.

Machines can poetry,
if somewhat clunkily. :)
I may give it another shot.  Maybe I'm mistaken but it currently & counterintuitively seems like the most uncanny AI doesn't come from linear domains, as it seems it should be, like music or language.  I find convolutional approaches on 2D images are delivering more reliable results at the moment IMHO.  I admit feeling like this opinion may be on the verge of expressing my own catastrophic ignorance.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
YouTube took it down.  :(
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Junkenstein on May 26, 2016, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
YouTube took it down.  :(

There's part of me that hopes the program that wrote this thing initiated the takedown. Damn meatbags trying to profit from it's hard work etc.

Fuck it, as far as I'm concerned, that's the story I'm telling. Fear the RIAA-AI or somesuch.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 26, 2016, 12:56:58 PM
I have it open in another tab and still functioning. Any way I can save that?
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Junkenstein on May 26, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
FRAPS might work?

ETA http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Fraps

Second ETA - If you get sued by the program, I'm not responsible but I will be amused.

Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 26, 2016, 02:10:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 26, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
FRAPS might work?

ETA http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Fraps

Second ETA - If you get sued by the program, I'm not responsible but I will be amused.

Ugh, 30 second limit and watermarks on the free version, and I am not invested enough in this piracy to pay for anything.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: minuspace on May 26, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
Darn thing got all bashful; that, or it's really banking hard on the whole cognitive dissonance tip.  Now I'm intrigued :lulz:
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2016, 07:45:54 PM
Refer to conspiracy theory above - video was deleted so we couldn't reverse engineer it to find a cure for the mind control virus. Virus will now propagate in benign form, from the people who saw it to the people they interact with. Eventually, everyone will be infected and an activation signal will be broadcast. :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 26, 2016, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2016, 07:45:54 PM
Refer to conspiracy theory above - video was deleted so we couldn't reverse engineer it to find a cure for the mind control virus. Virus will now propagate in benign form, from the people who saw it to the people they interact with. Eventually, everyone will be infected and an activation signal will be broadcast. :tinfoilhat:

I do feel kinda peculiar ever since watching it...
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Pæs on May 27, 2016, 04:05:35 AM
Author of it wrote this: https://medium.com/@rossgoodwin/adventures-in-narrated-reality-6516ff395ba3#.pbwxlaagf and Part II seems to deal with that video in the OP, however from what I gather the URL to the draft version was leaked before intended release, so it was taken down temporarily.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 27, 2016, 05:51:02 AM
Is the video anywhere else?
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: axod on June 03, 2016, 04:42:47 AM
This just in - for possible (not OP) video application.  From Nvidia:
QuoteResearchers from University of Freiburg in Germany are using cuDNN deep learning software and NVIDIA TITAN X GPUs to extract a specific artistic style from a source painting, and then synthesizes this information with the content of a separate video.

The team builds upon previous work of applying artistic styles to images – but extending this technique for videos is more challenging.

"If you just apply the algorithm frame by frame, you don't get a coherent video — you get flickering in the sequence," says University of Freiburg postdoc Alexey Dosovitskiy. "What we do is introduce additional constraints, which make the video consistent."

- See more at: https://news.developer.nvidia.com/deep-learning-helps-transfer-famous-artistic-styles-to-videos/#sthash.ESTVueK4.dpuf

Video demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxax5EKg0zA
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on June 03, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Quote from: axod on June 03, 2016, 04:42:47 AM
This just in - for possible (not OP) video application.  From Nvidia:
QuoteResearchers from University of Freiburg in Germany are using cuDNN deep learning software and NVIDIA TITAN X GPUs to extract a specific artistic style from a source painting, and then synthesizes this information with the content of a separate video.

The team builds upon previous work of applying artistic styles to images – but extending this technique for videos is more challenging.

"If you just apply the algorithm frame by frame, you don't get a coherent video — you get flickering in the sequence," says University of Freiburg postdoc Alexey Dosovitskiy. "What we do is introduce additional constraints, which make the video consistent."

- See more at: https://news.developer.nvidia.com/deep-learning-helps-transfer-famous-artistic-styles-to-videos/#sthash.ESTVueK4.dpuf

Video demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxax5EKg0zA

"Such great progress in so little time."

That's pretty impressive. The things that people are doing with this tech that they aren't putting on youtube are interesting I bet.

The robots are just about away from being able to recognise and categorise objects in real time.

Robot apocalypse is back on?
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 03, 2016, 08:57:51 PM
Certainly going to be a major feature in all future eschatonic scenarios.

(Wizard looks to the left and takes the tablet from his eyes)

I don't know about that.

(Tablet drops, breaking the floor in the sky)
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 03, 2016, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: axod on June 03, 2016, 04:42:47 AM
This just in - for possible (not OP) video application.  From Nvidia:
QuoteResearchers from University of Freiburg in Germany are using cuDNN deep learning software and NVIDIA TITAN X GPUs to extract a specific artistic style from a source painting, and then synthesizes this information with the content of a separate video.

The team builds upon previous work of applying artistic styles to images – but extending this technique for videos is more challenging.

"If you just apply the algorithm frame by frame, you don't get a coherent video — you get flickering in the sequence," says University of Freiburg postdoc Alexey Dosovitskiy. "What we do is introduce additional constraints, which make the video consistent."

- See more at: https://news.developer.nvidia.com/deep-learning-helps-transfer-famous-artistic-styles-to-videos/#sthash.ESTVueK4.dpuf

Video demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxax5EKg0zA

This YouTube video is really impressive. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Template on June 06, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 25, 2016, 12:56:05 PM
They're saying it wrote the script but I'm guessing it wrote the dialogue. I've read tons of movie scripts and dialogue is probably about 10% of most of them, the lions share being scene and action description and even camera and lighting direction in some. There was a link to the PDF of the script in the article I found this on but it was 404ing last night. I'd be interested to see it, tho.

Well, shit's being pulled but this article clarifies that the program wrote dialogue and described actions:
http://www.nerdcore.de/2016/05/20/sunspring-shortfilm-from-algorithmic-script/
https://archive.is/2zERM
Quote
    On watching the film, many of my friends did not realize that the action descriptions as well as the dialogue were computer generated. After examining the output from the computer, the production team made an effort to choose only action descriptions that realistically could be filmed, although the sequences themselves remained bizarre and surreal. The actors and production team's interpretations and realizations of the computer's descriptions was a fascinating case of human-machine collaboration.

    For example, here is the stage direction that led to Middleditch's character vomiting an eyeball early in the film:
    C (smiles): I don't know anything about any of this.
    H (to Hauk, taking his eyes from his mouth): Then what?
    H2: There's no answer.


Likewise, the video URL if access ever comes again:
vimeo.com/163231976
Title: Re: Our machine overlords have come for our movie industry
Post by: Template on June 10, 2016, 05:39:21 PM
Doubleposting now that the film is online again.
thescene.com/watch/arstechnica/sunspring-sci-fi-short-film
youtube.com/watch?v=LY7x2Ihqjmc