This is just fucking nasty. Even for the CIA.
Poles Shocked as Facts of CIA Torture Site Continue to Emerge - CIA Sought Local Contractor to 'Build a Cage' for Detainees (http://news.antiwar.com/2012/06/22/poles-shocked-as-facts-of-cia-torture-site-continue-to-emerge/)
Thanks tons, Texas Fairies. Fucking christ.
I'm going to go drink 4 liters of bourbon and hope the terror goes away.
Also: SHOCKFUL!
Pass the bottle. :x
Actually, this is pretty standard, for the CIA. Even restrained.
Usually, when the CIA gets involved in covert, paramilitary and interrogation programs, there is enough blood to fill several Olympic size swimming pools. That is, to say, tens of thousands of deaths. In Vietnam, they undertook torture programs where they tapped metal probes through people's skulls into their brain, obstensibly to see if they could "cure Communism". When they questioned people, they always did it in threes. Procedure was to waste the first two, who were usually nobodies and may not even be involved in the Viet Cong, to put the scare on the third. One of the favourite methods of execution was wrapping det cord around the neck of the prisoner, then blowing their head off.
Not that this makes any of this right. But the CIA have been much, much worse, in living memory.
Yeah, it's pretty sad when my only reaction is "well, at least it's not Uzbekistan."
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Actually, this is pretty standard, for the CIA. Even restrained.
Usually, when the CIA gets involved in covert, paramilitary and interrogation programs, there is enough blood to fill several Olympic size swimming pools. That is, to say, tens of thousands of deaths. In Vietnam, they undertook torture programs where they tapped metal probes through people's skulls into their brain, obstensibly to see if they could "cure Communism". When they questioned people, they always did it in threes. Procedure was to waste the first two, who were usually nobodies and may not even be involved in the Viet Cong, to put the scare on the third. One of the favourite methods of execution was wrapping det cord around the neck of the prisoner, then blowing their head off.
Not that this makes any of this right. But the CIA have been much, much worse, in living memory.
Oh of course. I'm not shocked by the
CIA, I'm shocked by the fact that this shit gets dug up regularly and not a damn person in the US gives a toss. This shit would be CLEAR THE LINES, THIS ONE'S BIG if it was any other country responsible, or if Poland did that in the US. But because it's us, and it's not next door where the crinimalz vapurs uf EEEVUL will corrupt the children, we tuck it under the bed and say it doesn't fucking exist.
Christ. I wish I had the money for more booze.
The thing is too that a lot of americans wouldnt care because were the good guys. We could never possibly be the bad guys. Were americans. Were making the world a better place. Blatant violations of human rights are necessary to maintain and promote freedom. Because the bad guys want to take away our freedom. God bless america.
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Actually, this is pretty standard, for the CIA. Even restrained.
Usually, when the CIA gets involved in covert, paramilitary and interrogation programs, there is enough blood to fill several Olympic size swimming pools. That is, to say, tens of thousands of deaths. In Vietnam, they undertook torture programs where they tapped metal probes through people's skulls into their brain, obstensibly to see if they could "cure Communism". When they questioned people, they always did it in threes. Procedure was to waste the first two, who were usually nobodies and may not even be involved in the Viet Cong, to put the scare on the third. One of the favourite methods of execution was wrapping det cord around the neck of the prisoner, then blowing their head off.
Not that this makes any of this right. But the CIA have been much, much worse, in living memory.
Yes, they had a big finger in that whole Guatemalan 40-year-torture-and-genocide clusterfuck too, didn't they? Del Monte needed the area to grow shit for canned goods or somesuch.
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 24, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
The thing is too that a lot of americans wouldnt care because were the good guys. We could never possibly be the bad guys. Were americans. Were making the world a better place. Blatant violations of human rights are necessary to maintain and promote freedom. Because the bad guys want to take away our freedom. God bless america.
IT'S FOR DEMOCRACY
I hate my government.
I hate your government too.
FACT: Back in the 50s/60s when the CIA was at the top of its game, a guy I know used to work for them. One of their favorite ways of deleting someone who had outlived his usefulness was to wrap him in bailing wire, fly over some awful part of the world at about 30,000 feet, and kick him off the airplane.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on June 24, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Actually, this is pretty standard, for the CIA. Even restrained.
Usually, when the CIA gets involved in covert, paramilitary and interrogation programs, there is enough blood to fill several Olympic size swimming pools. That is, to say, tens of thousands of deaths. In Vietnam, they undertook torture programs where they tapped metal probes through people's skulls into their brain, obstensibly to see if they could "cure Communism". When they questioned people, they always did it in threes. Procedure was to waste the first two, who were usually nobodies and may not even be involved in the Viet Cong, to put the scare on the third. One of the favourite methods of execution was wrapping det cord around the neck of the prisoner, then blowing their head off.
Not that this makes any of this right. But the CIA have been much, much worse, in living memory.
Yes, they had a big finger in that whole Guatemalan 40-year-torture-and-genocide clusterfuck too, didn't they? Del Monte needed the area to grow shit for canned goods or somesuch.
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 24, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
The thing is too that a lot of americans wouldnt care because were the good guys. We could never possibly be the bad guys. Were americans. Were making the world a better place. Blatant violations of human rights are necessary to maintain and promote freedom. Because the bad guys want to take away our freedom. God bless america.
IT'S FOR DEMOCRACY
America: Fuck Yeah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et0Bssnm1mw
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Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 24, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
The thing is too that a lot of americans wouldnt care because were the good guys. We could never possibly be the bad guys. Were americans. Were making the world a better place. Blatant violations of human rights are necessary to maintain and promote freedom. Because the bad guys want to take away our freedom. God bless america.
Of course... I mean haven't you seen 24? IF JACK DIDN'T TORTURE THEM THERE WOULD BE A HORRIBLE DISASTER!!!!
He does it to protect you!
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 25, 2012, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 24, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
The thing is too that a lot of americans wouldnt care because were the good guys. We could never possibly be the bad guys. Were americans. Were making the world a better place. Blatant violations of human rights are necessary to maintain and promote freedom. Because the bad guys want to take away our freedom. God bless america.
Of course... I mean haven't you seen 24? IF JACK DIDN'T TORTURE THEM THERE WOULD BE A HORRIBLE DISASTER!!!!
He does it to protect you!
I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment for America over the past decade.
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment indoctrination for America over the past decade.
Quote from: Telarus on June 25, 2012, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment indoctrination for America over the past decade.
I didn't have the heart to do it myself.
Quote from: Telarus on June 25, 2012, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment indoctrination for America over the past decade.
The two are synonymous these days anyhow, no?
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: Telarus on June 25, 2012, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Iron Twiddleton on June 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I was quite fond of 24. It does occur to me that it was the perfect form of entertainment indoctrination for America over the past decade.
The two are synonymous these days anyhow, no?
Depends how you get your fix.