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It seemed to me when I read as if it was probably full of meaning inside a personal mental context.  And that personal space having meaning to oneself could easily make it seem like it's truly valuable and that everyone else is deluded when they don't understand it.

I think some people fuck with their own minds so much that they lose touch with external contexts, and how their own horrible shit sounds from an outside perspective.  Some of that sometimes generates wonderful ideas(You ever watch the movie "A beautiful mind"?), but lots of times it is just total shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgLKkNY9eUA&feature=related

Billy Thorpe - Children of the Sun

If I were to take a class to teach me to be a trickster, I'd assume that the point would be to trick me into believing that I was getting something of value when I shelled out the money for it.  Thus, the trick would be on me;  and if I truly got the zen of it, I'd suddenly have the revelation of the value of the class.

Or i can just construct the thought-chain in my head and imagine i got tricked, and get the value without ever shelling out a penny.

Also, I wonder if my employers know that they're about to get fucked six ways from Sunday for this. Not reporting income to the state is a serious NO-NO.

It also makes me question the validity of my W-2.

It's a bad enough no-no to get the business shut down and someone to go to jail over it, so ya, they are royally fucked.  Depending on the length of an investigation, it could take you a while to get your money, but even without an investigation normally for this type of correction in most places its 6-8 weeks.

Your W-2 is valid even if written on a napkin or sheet of notepaper as long as it has all the right info.  Back in the 70's, I was a gas station attendant in Oregon.  The manager printed out our W-2s on receipt tape, and it was perfectly legal since it had the tax id #'s and all the wages and deductions listed with their appropriate W-2 line number.  Looking back, I think he did it just to be funny, but I never got the joke.  He was the bishop of the local Mormon stake, and taught in the High School as well as having 7 kids and another on the way when i graduated.  The man needed to put a little humor in his life somehow.  I think he did it by doing weird shit like that.

If you have a w2, either the w2 is a fraudulent piece of paper or RI is lying to you and trying to fuck you over.  The W2 has a federal tax id # for your former employer, and you can skip the state and take that straight to the IRS and they can verify if your income was reported or not.  If it was, then you can present evidence to the state backing your claim.

The other possibility is that the employer got a Federal Tax ID # and didn't bother contacting the state to get one.  Some employers seem to have this weird idea in their heads that the federal Tax ID # is sufficient, and it really isn't in most states.  Look at your w2 and see if it has a seperate tax ID # for state vs. federal.  if it doesn't, that might be the problem.

My 9 months of unemployment will be over on monday.  At least colorado or my former bosses didn't try to burn me on this one.
ETA: Just read your last post.  so it was the employer not sending the info to the state.  figures.

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The main point that I needed to make is that tuning your environment towards a specific type of person that you want to help or free up is different than being elitist.  I don't see the OP as being elitist, I see it as expressing reasonable frustration that some out there are turning this forum into a comfortable home for Pinealist Mystics that happen to like the Discordian name and want it to feel all fuzzy and warm here.
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Pinealist Mystics?
really?
who?

I think E.O.T is a wannabe pinealist, but I admit I could be mistaken.  Other than that, I guess i can't put a name to it.  TGRR not posting here has a profound effect on the board.  Maybe that's it.  Maybe him being missing makes it more warm and fuzzy.

On the one hand, being all pineal and erisian and getting into chaos magick and all that shit looks horribly appealing, and it seems like it'd be fun.  But I haven't seen how it's ever at all real, other than as a game to fuck with peoples minds.  So if that's what you're into, doing it for the mystical mind-fuck, i'm kool with that.  But i've learned to hate religion, and that feels too religious.  

I love a good mental shakeup and reordering. I want it without the religion since the religion turns me off.

If people are going to make snarky comments on people's posting style and drinking habits, maybe they do need a special elite forum.

I would totally not be opposed to that.

Hey, I haven't changed my habits since that whole thing started.  I was ignoring him then, I'm ignoring him now.  

And the alcohol/drugs thing has also been ongoing.  I drink, obviously.  And I am creative, I hope.  But I have found no corrolary between them -- in fact, I have found a negative corrolary: When I'm drunk, I think I'm creative, but the next day, it turns out I just suck.

It was a piece of helpful advice, is all.  Please don't turn this into something bigger than it needs to be.

For what it's worth, it was helpful advice.  and now that I don't have any alcohol in me, it is just as well that I didn't post it.

The main point that I needed to make is that tuning your environment towards a specific type of person that you want to help or free up is different than being elitist.  I don't see the OP as being elitist, I see it as expressing reasonable frustration that some out there are turning this forum into a comfortable home for Pinealist Mystics that happen to like the Discordian name and want it to feel all fuzzy and warm here.

That is not even remotely close to generating the type of chaos that blows the fuck out of your mind and makes you disoriented and thereby causes you to reorient and come up with new, creative, fantastic shit.  Unfortunately that process hurts and the shrapnel can be a bitch to dig out of your spleen, but having to do that sometimes is the only way I've found to stay sane.  My fucked up head can't stand what many consider normal otherwise.

So, my advice to anyone who cares: Get used to the shrapnel.  Just fucking live with it.  It hurts when your mind gets blown, if you do it right.  But it's a good kind of pain.  Trust me. 

I made an account here because I'd thought  "WooHoo, people that think like me, finally!!!".

But

1)I'm basically a boring person and rarely have any creative ideas to post.  If I posted often, it'd be total shit.  I value this place and see any current sappiness as a temporary lull in the storm.

2)My real life has been shit.  I lost my job in July.  I've not really been up to anything creative, on top of basic boringness.  I'm probably going to be employed soon, doing internal tech support for The Evil Empire(Also known as a major US Health insurance provider).  So with the weight of the job search off my shoulders, maybe my creativity will kick start.  That and I just bought some Smithwick's, which loosens me up a bit.

3)I don't know how to be part of an elitist club, but i'm pretty sure that's not what ECH was talking about.  It sounded more like tuning the environment so that the people that need it the most will be attracted to stay, and that maybe it's gotten a bit out of tune.  But who knows?  This may also be a hint that I don't have a fucking clue, and I'm fine with that too.

I think i had another point but i lost it after a long swallow of good beer.

I've got a question for anyone that cares to try to answer it.

People go on and on about how fucking dumb Bush is.

So what?  If a man is horribly smart or dumb as a rock or anything inbetween, he can still do horrible things that piss people off royally.  If someone is truly that horribly stupid, doesn't it just mean they will be really incompetent in their stupidity?

The ones that fuck things up the worst are the really smart ones.  In this respect, Obama is probably scarier than bush(I'm thinking by a longshot, but I don't want to give him too much credit).

All the birther's are doing is the same as the other conspiracy theorists out there;  they got a false positive on a pattern match in their interesting little brains, and they won't let go because it is a pattern they desperately want to believe in.  And that is part of what this whole discordian shit is all about, recognizing the tendency of some humans to get trapped pattern-matching themselves into oblivion.

Was bush stupid?  In some ways.  In others ways, he was smart like a good used car salesman.

Is Obama smart?  Probably.

Which will be a better discordian saint over time?  Hard to guess, but I'm banking on Obama producing a higher volume of disorder thru imposition of order.  You can look at the direct effects of Bush policy in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places and say it'll be hard to overcome.  It'll take time, but I'm banking on Obama's intelligence winning out over time and making the world economic destabilization even more profound than Bush ever could dream of.

I'll quit rambling now.  My Coffee is done anyway.

Colonel Van T. Barfoot pretty much counts as a badass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_T._Barfoot

...Ima PM The Mgt.

The Mgt.  stands for The Midget, right?

I accidentally called forth the attention of The Mgt.  one time by mistakenly reporting something where there was a tag error in a post.  Just trying to be helpful.  

As has been true 99% of the time in my life I caused more harm trying to be helpful than I ever have just leaving things be.  I'm slow to learn on this type of lesson but every now and then I get it.  

I could point you towards a source, but it contains lies(unless it's lying about containing lies).  And it really isn't all that good anyway.  I could vomit forth the statements of that source, but would you know if I'm lying or telling the truth, and even if i told you the truth, how you know if it was the really real truth?  I've believed lies before, who's to say that I'm not believing one now?

You guys...?

Help me...SOMEBODY FUCKING HELP ME. I WANT TO WATCH IT AGAIN.

I ACTUALLY EVEN LOOKED FOR IT ON IN DEMAND OVER AT GS'S PARENTS HOUSE.

Sounds to me like you are wanting to replace the indifference you feel.  Like if watching it again will give you something to grab hold of and either be for or against. 

I think you could watch it a million times and your immediate reaction would be the appropriate response.

It really was horribly vapid and insignificant, at least to me.  It took things that ought to be exciting and significant and deflated them and made them trivial and meaningless.  I think that is part of why tweeners connect to Twilight,  and why there is such rabid hate amongst some.

I watched the first and couldn't imagine myself being bored enough to watch the second.

Church of the Whale Penis: http://whalepenis.org/



I think this has the makings of a horrormirth entry.

I just figured out the legend on that ditzler chart.  Bronco Colors are marked with a small black square and Econolines with a small black triangle, and the asterisks are Ford Courier colors, so I think that means the ones that are left are the truck colors.

I'm assuming those would be used in some kinda combination on the Two-tone trucks.  I've seen a lot of old ford trucks that are two-tone with one of those reds and one of those whites, for example.