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what if god doesn't exist and humans just made it up in a mushroom induced haze so that we humans wouldn't feel so small and alone ..... my how the evolution of consciousness is strange .....


or even better ..... you are a god in your own right (which is not just in your own head although since everything is technically just in yer head the previous statement may be false ..... but it's not)

Being anti dogmatic is a form of dogmatism, just like the middle path of Buddhism is a kind of extreme, and Communism is a form of government.

i certainly agree with that statement ..... i also find now that i'm a father and i've broken the age of 30 that alot of my more radical ideas have started to temper, i often find myself, particularly these days, re-evaluating my ideas and belief structures, kinda like when i was younger i would just suck everything in and spit it back out, more as an experience than anything else. Now i find that i'm going back and saying "That was sweet, lets try it again, but this time, chewing a little" ..... and from what history has showed us is that most forms of government look really swell on paper, once they have some time to be put into practice though then eventually breakdown into despotism ..... everytime through all of history .....

This is all besides the point, because anyone who sucks up dogma is a dogmatist - no matter if its from RAW, Jesus or Scientology.  Its all the same crap, someone elses ideas that you parrot because it makes you feel good. 

Way to go in surrenduring your mind, monkey-boi

i couldn't agree more .....


although it's a bit ironic that you are a proponent of free minds ..... considering how quickly you jump on ideas you disagree with .....

see ya again in 14 days

his thoughts on consciousness, time & space, and reality are quite interesting actually and studdied to this day in philosphy class country wide (my brother who is a theology maj. out of fordum U. in NY, and now has his masters in history did a 200 page report on RAW)

Really?

I'm currently studying philosophy at A-level in the UK, my teachers had never heard of RAW, or discordianism, I recently got a copy of Quantum Psychology (an interesting book), but my teachers hadn't heard of it, and one of them got a degree in philosophy.

Maybe the courses are very different, but I wasn't under the impression RAW had made that much of an impact to get that kind of recognition.

maybe they are and it might even be Prof. Specific .... but anyway it was interesting cause i heard of him after i got out of school  ..... and was traveling a little bit ..... my brother asked me if i heard of him and by that point i was full onto some discordian gibberish .....

you folks are funny ..... ssome drugs are good folks so don't believe the hype ..... we're not talking cocaine or crack or smack ..... just some lite drugs that altar perception a little ..... if it's not yer game thats cool but you can't really pass judgement on an experience you've never had ..... as for potential ..... i'm thinking you people know little to nothing about me and i'm thinking you take yerselves a little to seriously .....

i always thought it read more like ADHD ..... which is just my cup of meth .....

but strangely evertime i click the link all my windows shut down .....

It's inexplicable.

not really ..... happens everytime ..... you think yer the first to post that at me ..... gods and such ..... get out more often or something .....

What, and leave all of THIS?

well at least i can say i'm here cause it's 2 am and my son is sleeping in the next room so i can't go our right now ..... i mean i could but ..... i won't cause ya know he's 6 ..... and while he makes a nice pair of Nikes for dirt cheap he still has nightmares and needs a parental figure to tuck him back in when he's scared

And I'm here because I am in the shitty back room of a bodega, on the wrong side of town, counting my ill-gotten gains.

What's your point?

you know honestly i'm not sure there was a point to that ...... i must be getting old ..... am i ? ..... i'm guessing you'd know the effects of that .....

but strangely evertime i click the link all my windows shut down .....

It's inexplicable.

not really ..... happens everytime ..... you think yer the first to post that at me ..... gods and such ..... get out more often or something .....

What, and leave all of THIS?

well at least i can say i'm here cause it's 2 am and my son is sleeping in the next room so i can't go our right now ..... i mean i could but ..... i won't cause ya know he's 6 ..... and while he makes a nice pair of Nikes for dirt cheap he still has nightmares and needs a parental figure to tuck him back in when he's scared

thats why a subculture sprang up around his works and thats why you ended up here .....

Okay, you're an idiot.

ok so now yer going to just ignore the historical truth of the matter ..... Discordinism, (greek left over from 3000 years ago crap which is in no way shape or form relevant to NOW aside) has only been around as a subculture for what 40 years now ..... yer gonna tell me that before PD was printed on a xerox machine ina lawyers office some 40 eyars ago or wtf ever ..... that before that discordianism was prevelent as a religion ..... greek mythos aside

Though we were talking about Wilson.

ok ..... we were and i'm talking about the subculture that sprang up around his writings ..... the cult if you will ..... how many people were turned onto Discordianism because he decided to use quotes from PD as chapter headers ? ..... thats all i'm saying ..... from my understanding of history it was RAW who provided the leap pad so to speak for this whole subculture we are drowning in

but strangely evertime i click the link all my windows shut down .....

It's inexplicable.

not really ..... happens everytime ..... you think yer the first to post that at me ..... gods and such ..... get out more often or something .....

thats why a subculture sprang up around his works and thats why you ended up here .....

Okay, you're an idiot.

ok so now yer going to just ignore the historical truth of the matter ..... Discordinism, (greek left over from 3000 years ago crap which is in no way shape or form relevant to NOW aside) has only been around as a subculture for what 40 years now ..... yer gonna tell me that before PD was printed on a xerox machine ina lawyers office some 40 eyars ago or wtf ever ..... that before that discordianism was prevelent as a religion ..... greek mythos aside

RAW is nothing more than another acid-addled shit-brained hippie retread who has managed to eke out a fairly comfortable existence by simultaneously exploiting the need of certain kinds of people to be outsiders while fitting in to their chosen subset of outsiders and the inability of the same kinds of people to have an original thought, ever.

his thoughts on consciousness, time & space, and reality are quite interesting actually and studdied to this day in philosphy class country wide (my brother who is a theology maj. out of fordum U. in NY, and now has his masters in history did a 200 page report on RAW)

as far as his originality ..... comon he was totally original ..... thats why a subculture sprang up around his works and thats why you ended up here ..... get over it and move on ..... and if ya don't like drugs ..... to quote bill hicks ..... i want you to take all your albums and records and all that gerat music that has enhanced yer lives through the years, and burn it ..... cause the folks who made those albums, REAAAAAALLLLLL FUCKING HIGH

oh thats clever ..... i'm sure bible descrepencies would be a good read (that i'd be willing to bet i've read already) ..... but strangely evertime i click the link all my windows shut down ..... of coarse i'm one of those people who saves all his stuff regularly so when it shut down my Adobe programs i wasn't to saddened ..... nice try though ..... how about next time you just straight out mail me a virus, or better yet ..... spend yer oh so obviously precious time and track me down and rape my ass with yer AIDS infected penis..... unless that really is a real link to some subversive info i've yet to read in which case just copy and print the content here and i'll be happy to read and reply ..... 

1: wow i wish i could stay smoked out all day ..... oh wait i do ..... 

2: yer right i'm not serious about firearms .....

1.  HELLOOOOOO, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!

2.  Why should you be, when you can beat up Chuck Norris wiff your kung fu?

1: geeze you act like i'm a nazi for it ..... oh well for you i guess

2: gods who cares if i can beat up chuck norris ..... the guy is like 60 and for about 6 months when i was a kid he was cool ..... chuck norris isn't dead yet but the chuck norris jokes were like ..... hmmmm ..... soooooo last year ..... get with the program mister '70's

thats where you stop reading ..... the rest of the folks with open minds would most likely continue ..... pot smokers or not ..... by the way do you own a gun ? ..... just curious

Dude, people with open minds don't waste their time listening to barflies, either.

And a gun?  Several.  I have a trained monkey follow me around with a golf bag full of them.

bar flies ? ..... what are they ..... i assume drunks hence the name ..... well thats not me i don't really drink much (even when the bar picks up the tab, which is the usual case when we play) ......

as far as the trained monkeys that carry weapons in a golf bag ...... where can i get one ..... cause i don't have that much time to devote to training a monkey .....

1.  Bar flies:  People who remain inebriated all day.  Kinda like you.  WHICH drug you use is totally irrelevant.

2.  Then you really aren't serious about firearms.

1: wow i wish i could stay smoked out all day ..... oh wait i do ..... and while doing that i run a business (aka the band, for which i manage, promote, web design, book shows, play bass in, sing in, drive the van for ...... and oh yeah write 80% of the music) ..... in between and including that on the 16 hour days of which i yank 6 of those a week, i raise my son, love on my GF (soon to be wife), play D&D p&p style, practice Aikido and thats just my main activities ..... i also have an herb garden a vegetable garden i blow glass here and there and i'm learnign the trumpet ..... i also like to fill my time slots with some good old RPG video games when i can find the time  ...... ya know come to think of it ..... i'm exactly where i saw myself   when i was younger ..... beautifull GF, secure work doing something i love great child nice house ..... my life is good .....

2: yer right i'm not serious about firearms ..... i was just curious if you owned any, but mainly as a way of finding a common ground upon which the ending this not stop barrage of useless banter that is really serving no purpose anymore ..... you some some people don't like me ..... and i don't care if you do or don't .....