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#1
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2021, 10:09:35 PM
yeah! but aren't you there already, as 'cuddlefish'?

Jaysus... I haven't heard that name in years... But srsly, idfk tbh...
#2
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2021, 05:01:48 PM
long story short:


  • those of us who used to hang out in #discord, our community IRC channel, were increasingly frustrated at IRCs lack of tools to keep out dedicated trolls and assholes
  • Meanwhile, facebook is getting worse and worse, it's actually making us all stupider, so I made a personal pledge to spend less time there.
  • So I started a Discordian Discord server which functions as a cabal. The intent is not to become big or popular, but to have a cool nucleus of people who enjoy sharing cyberspace together.
  • As a Discordian cabal, we welcome people to share their wacky niche interests. It's kind of a sharing/learning vibe where we are interested to hear about the cool things you're reading about / doing
  • We used to have a bunch of crazy subcabals with their own meeting schedules. Like, at one point we had a Gurdjieff book club, a movie watching club, a meditation group, a deleuze focused philosophy chat circle, and an occult workgroup. And I'm forgetting a few!
  • other information should be discovered in-game

Do you think it's worth it for someone who can't video chat? Kinda limited to keyboard communication at the moment.
#3
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2021, 04:53:07 PM
Link to the Aftermathematics Research Cabal discord server available on PM request.

Our weekly video meetings have also tapered off a bit, would be nice to get some new blood over there.

I've been a little bit of an absentee landlord since I had the baby, but I go back to work next week so I'll be there a bunch more.

If you've been an absentee landlord, I've been an absentee tenant. Is there a link to info regarding the Aftermathematics Research Cabal? I don't know what that is and I'm interested to see if I'm interested to see it.
#4
I picked a really shitty time to return. So damn busy... Should have some time this weekend, maybe I'll fill y'all in with the weird twist my life has taken. Maybe I'll leave it to your imagination. Either way, Hi! And I WIN!
#5
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 29, 2020, 02:03:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 02:00:08 AM
Also, you're not voting for Biden, you're voting THROUGH Biden.

IE, whomever he picks as his VP, because he isn't going to last long himself.

I like that spin on it. Will definitely be a more or less powerful take depending on who he picks. Hopefully the DNC can Neo out of the way of the next few shots they take at their own foot.
#6
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 29, 2020, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 01:40:02 AM

I'm down.

And TWJ is fine.  He just had a rocky start.

Cool.

I think the best start is to try different approaches on how to get people to do something that they would otherwise think is too unwholesome and report back here with what works and what doesn't. The more memetic of us (looks at Cram) could possibly come up with posters etc for us to circulate. Personally, I think it's the type of thing that is easier with a one on one convo, but anything that can be distributed en masse would, of course, be helpful.

Reminder to everyone, we do not have to be truthful, we do not have to be logical (unless that is what works in a given case). The only thing we gotta do is get Ferret Head the fuck out.

It's tough and a lot of what needs to be done just sucks. I had a convo the other day with a buddy that started with "You realize we have to vote for Biden, right?" and it felt so gross to say, I'm not a huge fan of "lesser of two evils" rhetoric, but luckily in this case, I was able to present the idea successfully.   
#7
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 29, 2020, 01:33:02 AM
Also, fuck Nigel.
#8
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 29, 2020, 01:31:36 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 12:23:26 AM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 28, 2020, 11:57:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:51:27 PM
So you might understand that it's slightly difficult to smile through the rage.

Dok,
Will get over this soon enough, but not right now.

Further, I didn't realize any of that was happening. Maybe even my own fault I didn't realize. Even further, had I realized, in all honesty, I don't know if I would have stepped in because 4+ years ago a LOT of PDers, including you, dogpiled on me about shit that I never said/did while I was dealing with extreme poverty and depression. No one cared to help in any way except Charley and Alty. They were literally the only ones. Thing is, I don't and will never hold a grudge against you or anyone else here on PD (except Nigel). Fuck the past, it's stupid anyway. I'd much prefer to spend my time taking down Orange Hitler and his fucking retarded cronies.

Point.  It's Nigel I hate, not you.

My apologies.

Cool beans.

Back on topic, I cannot stand emboldened racists and bigots, let's take this fucker down. Love or hate, we have a lot of smart people here, let's do what we do best and convince people to do things they normally wouldn't  :lulz:

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 29, 2020, 12:12:22 AM
ya know... in a strange way Trailer Park Hitler and the Low-rent Reich are true uniters in that I would Happily stand shoulder to shoulder with otherwise intolerable folks if we were all focused on fucking their shit up for good and all. that's really saying something.

Same. I didn't like you too much when you first signed up, but if Roger et al have come to tolerate you, then I'll happily leave all former notions I had of you in the past. We may have an opportunity here for one of the best GASMs ever.
#9
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:57:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:51:27 PM
So you might understand that it's slightly difficult to smile through the rage.

Dok,
Will get over this soon enough, but not right now.

Further, I didn't realize any of that was happening. Maybe even my own fault I didn't realize. Even further, had I realized, in all honesty, I don't know if I would have stepped in because 4+ years ago a LOT of PDers, including you, dogpiled on me about shit that I never said/did while I was dealing with extreme poverty and depression. No one cared to help in any way except Charley and Alty. They were literally the only ones. Thing is, I don't and will never hold a grudge against you or anyone else here on PD (except Nigel). Fuck the past, it's stupid anyway. I'd much prefer to spend my time taking down Orange Hitler and his fucking retarded cronies.
#10
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 28, 2020, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:35:01 PM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 28, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:06:47 AM
I'm still voting against Trump.  Because my feelings of butthurt do not exceed my hatred for every single thing Donald Trump stands for.

So, here's the thing, I understand what you're saying. However, calling someone who's vote we need "butthurt," or otherwise antagonizing them is super counterproductive. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a "kinder and gentler" TGRR, that would be truly horrifying. But shit, at least keep it to yourself until the election is over so people actually trying to reach to potential voters out don't have an additional hurdle to climb, as it is, the DNC can't stop getting in their own way and making things difficult.

Dude, 4+ years ago, I was called a Nazi and a racist and a libertarian because I was voting for Bernie, and nobody said shit about it.  Not one person, *including* everyone giving me shit now.

But now I have to be nice, because Saint Bernie is involved.

:whack:

No, I don't.  I in fact feel no need to accept political wisdom or moral guidance from PD, because it's nothing but cock and repost hypocrisy all the way down.

This has literally got nothing to do with Bernie at this point. It's about getting people who would otherwise not vote to get out there and get this orange fucktard out of office. You either help or don't. No one said you had to be happy about it. I'm certainly not. But if it's more important to you to antagonize people on the internet, fine, just realize it's making other people's jobs more difficult. For every one one person I can convince to "come around" we lose three or four because someone was antagonizing them.

Right here (PD), right now (this election), it's all personal.  All of it.

Outside of PD I am quite willing to be more persuasive.  But inside of PD, not so much.

This I can understand and respect, but it wasn't me that called you any of those things.
#11
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 28, 2020, 11:31:06 PM
The other thing to keep in mind is that many former Bernie/Warren supporters are very idealistic.

Sometimes I laugh so hard I shit my pants.

I mean, my choices went Harris, Warren, Sanders, some random asshole, Biden, a lump of Trump's shit, Pete, Gabbard, but I don't want to hear SHIT about idealism on this here forum.  None.  Nada.  No gusta.  Nein.

WTF are you even on about? Luckily I'm heartily immune to your brand of shitposting, you inoculated me yourself. Read my posts as they are written and stop injecting things to be mad about. I'm talking strategy here. Like, remember that one game of Werewolf where you and I convinced everyone to just kill themselves? It's kinda like that, but a little more important than a forum game.
#12
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 11:35:01 PM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 28, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:06:47 AM
I'm still voting against Trump.  Because my feelings of butthurt do not exceed my hatred for every single thing Donald Trump stands for.

So, here's the thing, I understand what you're saying. However, calling someone who's vote we need "butthurt," or otherwise antagonizing them is super counterproductive. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a "kinder and gentler" TGRR, that would be truly horrifying. But shit, at least keep it to yourself until the election is over so people actually trying to reach to potential voters out don't have an additional hurdle to climb, as it is, the DNC can't stop getting in their own way and making things difficult.

Dude, 4+ years ago, I was called a Nazi and a racist and a libertarian because I was voting for Bernie, and nobody said shit about it.  Not one person, *including* everyone giving me shit now.

But now I have to be nice, because Saint Bernie is involved.

:whack:

No, I don't.  I in fact feel no need to accept political wisdom or moral guidance from PD, because it's nothing but cock and repost hypocrisy all the way down.

This has literally got nothing to do with Bernie at this point. It's about getting people who would otherwise not vote to get out there and get this orange fucktard out of office. You either help or don't. No one said you had to be happy about it. I'm certainly not. But if it's more important to you to antagonize people on the internet, fine, just realize it's making other people's jobs more difficult. For every one one person I can convince to "come around" we lose three or four because someone was antagonizing them.
#13
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:31:06 PM
The other thing to keep in mind is that many former Bernie/Warren supporters are very idealistic. Whether you think voting should be based on ideals or not, they believe it is. Convincing someone like that to vote against their ideals is very difficult (I should know, I am one of them) so consideration of the above fact should be taken into account. Remind people that voting is confidential and that no one will know who they voted for. Even the most idealistic will sway a bit when they think no one is watching.
#14
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:27:30 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 26, 2020, 11:01:21 AM
Coming back to the OP isnt going to convincing them to vote for biden over trump, if they are already voting for trump you are unlikely to sway that.
My biggest fear, and it is the likely way that trump will win the election is that he has a bunch of diehard zealots while biden has a charisma void.
What will happen is people who complain about trump,  but they wont register that where it matters on the day.
The single best thing you can do in all this is find the people who say they will vote biden, and make sure they are registered to vote, that they show up on the day.
Because the Cassandra in me says trump will get back into office, not because of his overwhelming voter base, but because the amount who actually got out to vote will be tiny

Pretty much this.
#15
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Help
April 28, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:06:47 AM
I'm still voting against Trump.  Because my feelings of butthurt do not exceed my hatred for every single thing Donald Trump stands for.

So, here's the thing, I understand what you're saying. However, calling someone who's vote we need "butthurt," or otherwise antagonizing them is super counterproductive. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a "kinder and gentler" TGRR, that would be truly horrifying. But shit, at least keep it to yourself until the election is over so people actually trying to reach out to potential voters don't have an additional hurdle to climb, as it is, the DNC can't stop getting in their own way and making things difficult.