http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23379673-details/It%27s+rape+if+the+woman+is+drunk%2C+according+to+new+law/article.do
wait...
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:asplode:
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wat?
This is already law in some states. Its also how they compile some of the more ridiculous rape statistics.
I can see that in some cases that it would be rape. But hardly all of them.
Having sex with a drunk person is never rape and you are a fucking retard if you believe that.
Raping a drunk person is rape.
ONLY IF THERE'S LUBE
... BUT YELLING SURPRISE NEGATES IT!
The government tried this in 2002 and 2007 and each time judges overturned it on the basis of it being utterly stupid.
Naturally, This Is London doesn't mention that, because anything beyond a Wikipedia search is not within the skills of their "journalists". Hooray for free papers!
Well if someone is unconscious or so drunk they are incoherent, then, you can't really consent. And if the dude is sober, well... thats out of line, and probably should constitute an offence.
A decent person doesn't take advantage of a heavily intoxicated person.
However i can see the potential for abuse by some women.
the date rape rules on campus at some american universities have already done this years ago.. http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Support/Sexual_Assault
Quote from: fomenter on September 02, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
the date rape rules on campus at some american universities have already done this years ago.. http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Support/Sexual_Assault
"And he said to me: 'You wanna be bad?' And I said 'Yeah, baby! Yeah!'"
Quote from: Dimo1138 on September 02, 2009, 10:40:44 PM
Quote from: fomenter on September 02, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
the date rape rules on campus at some american universities have already done this years ago.. http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Support/Sexual_Assault
"And he said to me: 'You wanna be bad?' And I said 'Yeah, baby! Yeah!'"
I'm cookin' with gas. I've gotta handful of vertebrae and a headful of mad. Yeah. That's your spinal cord. Baby. Dig it. Who's the man? I'm the man. I'm a bad man. How bad? Real bad. I'm a 12.0 on the 10.0 scale of badness.
Quote from: fomenter on September 02, 2009, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: Dimo1138 on September 02, 2009, 10:40:44 PM
Quote from: fomenter on September 02, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
the date rape rules on campus at some american universities have already done this years ago.. http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Support/Sexual_Assault
"And he said to me: 'You wanna be bad?' And I said 'Yeah, baby! Yeah!'"
I'm cookin' with gas. I've gotta handful of vertebrae and a headful of mad. Yeah. That's your spinal cord. Baby. Dig it. Who's the man? I'm the man. I'm a bad man. How bad? Real bad. I'm a 12.0 on the 10.0 scale of badness.
Are they ever going to release season two? I suppose it doesn't matter considering the whole series peaked in the first twelve issues of the original comic's run. CSV FTW.
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on September 02, 2009, 09:43:10 PM
Having sex with a drunk person is never rape and you are a fucking retard if you believe that.
Raping a drunk person is rape.
Once again, Fnordie lays down THE LAW.
Just call me patrolman Slanket.
:argh!: WHO ARE THEY TO TELL ME IVE BEEN RAPED
Our college campus has similar policies, except they don't actually do bloodwork. But then, it's part of an abstinence-only sex ed program so the purpose is to scare people out of having sex in the first place.
I agree that if someone is too intoxicated to consent, then something is wrong. But you can't just put a number on it and define after the fact what constitutes competence to consent based purely on blood alcohol levels.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on September 02, 2009, 09:56:41 PM
Well if someone is unconscious or so drunk they are incoherent, then, you can't really consent. And if the dude is sober, well... thats out of line, and probably should constitute an offence.
A decent person doesn't take advantage of a heavily intoxicated person.
However i can see the potential for abuse by some women.
Correct motorcycle, imo.
ive heard in the Loveline radio-show that in California, women with more than 2 drinks supposedly by current legislation "arent able to give consent", thus, rapeage.
but that radio show i heard it on was on an archive from about 5-6 years ago, hopefully this has changed.
If someone is too drunk to consent, then fucking them would be a waste of my time.
A few exceptions to this may be considered.
Quote from: LMNO on September 03, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
If someone is too drunk to consent, then fucking them would be a waste of my time.
This.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtb73qp0mmc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtb73qp0mmc)
relevant. Also has funny cameo appearance.
...More than 2 drinks. It's a conversational gem; "I found out today I've been raped repeatedly."
Life makes it to easy to troll.
What if a girl gets me drunk and sexes me? Is that rape, too?
That's what I'm reading from this.
If you've both had more than two drinks, does the combined rape cancel the effects out?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
What if a girl gets me drunk and sexes me? Is that rape, too?
could be. Also may be your friends treating you to a hooker on the quiet.
i'd say, if you are seriously swaying and talking complete drunk codshit, you can still be in a state to say, uh, no, far too drunk for any of that, thankyou, or "yesh pleashe, i never had twins, and you 2 are blurry" and then thats probably consensual, however if you can be drunker still and can get it up, its probably a miracle rape.
And I dont do drunk sex, its usually kinda awful.
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
If you've both had more than two drinks, does the combined rape cancel the effects out?
I think they toss you both in prison for that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
If you've both had more than two drinks, does the combined rape cancel the effects out?
I think they toss you both in prison for that.
Shared cell?
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on September 03, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
What if a girl gets me drunk and sexes me? Is that rape, too?
could be. Also may be your friends treating you to a hooker on the quiet.
i'd say, if you are seriously swaying and talking complete drunk codshit, you can still be in a state to say, uh, no, far too drunk for any of that, thankyou, or "yesh pleashe, i never had twins, and you 2 are blurry" and then thats probably consensual, however if you can be drunker still and can get it up, its probably a miracle rape.
And I dont do drunk sex, its usually kinda awful.
My gonads are impervious to alcohol.
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2009, 06:13:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
If you've both had more than two drinks, does the combined rape cancel the effects out?
I think they toss you both in prison for that.
Shared cell?
No, and you're up shit creek just for asking, you prison rape freak.
:sad:
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2009, 06:16:10 PM
:sad:
It's law and order time! I can almost feel the world moving to the right
again!
We'll soon put paid to you freaks and weirdos. Your perversions we can do without!
TGRR,
Is HAPPY to be a Delta!
Wait... Two drinks?
I've been a rapist for decades.
Yeah, me too! I can't tell you how many times I've committed mutual rape since I was 18. Damn.
When I was with Maria, she'd get drunk and then we WERE having sex, whether I consented or not (not that this was a problem or anything).
So how does THAT work?
She was forcing you to rape her, clearly.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on September 03, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
She was forcing you to rape her, clearly.
So who gets arrested?
Back in MY day, sex wasn't this complicated. You just found a willing partner, and got your monkey on.
:crankey:
This century, no one will be callously grouped, labeled, or discriminated against in the courts. New crimes will be developed to suit your individual quirks, perversions, and uniqueness.
Quote from: Richter on September 03, 2009, 08:56:31 PM
This century, no one will be callously grouped, labeled, or discriminated against in the courts. New crimes will be developed to suit your individual quirks, perversions, and uniqueness.
It's just as well. I was born guilty, anydamnway.
It's a contest to see who can be the best sneaky closeted ape.
Quote from: Richter on September 03, 2009, 09:02:49 PM
It's a contest to see who can be the best sneaky closeted ape.
I lost.
I fling MY poop in public.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 09:04:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on September 03, 2009, 09:02:49 PM
It's a contest to see who can be the best sneaky closeted ape.
I lost.
I fling MY poop in public WHEREVER I DAMNED WELL PLEASE!
Fixt
:lulz:
and rape is a VIOLENT CRIME
JUST THE SAME as if you robbed a liquor store, shot the clerk to death, stole his wallet and the cashier - and you came at the end
Arghk!
Because women are obviously to stupid to think for them selves.
If they're sober enough to open their legs to some randy man, then good on them.
Fucking fuck shit.
It's so pathetic that if I had a penis I'd go and rape some bitches.
:horrormirth:
Quote from: Xebra on September 04, 2009, 12:07:11 AM
Arghk!
Because women are obviously to stupid to think for them selves.
If they're sober enough to open their legs to some randy man, then good on them.
Fucking fuck shit.
It's so pathetic that if I had a penis I'd go and rape some bitches.
:horrormirth:
ooh YOU just got past 50 posts....
STFU FUCKING RETARD. tell you what, if you ever get raped I'll laugh at you. :argh!:
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on September 03, 2009, 06:12:16 PMhowever if you can be drunker still and can get it up, its probably a miracle rape.
:lol:
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on September 04, 2009, 11:25:56 AM
Quote from: Xebra on September 04, 2009, 12:07:11 AM
Arghk!
Because women are obviously to stupid to think for them selves.
If they're sober enough to open their legs to some randy man, then good on them.
Fucking fuck shit.
It's so pathetic that if I had a penis I'd go and rape some bitches.
:horrormirth:
ooh YOU just got past 50 posts.... STFU FUCKING RETARD. tell you what, if you ever get raped I'll laugh at you. :argh!:
Hey Xebra, you might want to reformulate that statement.
It appears that it is possible to read that as condoning real rape.
oh and most humans
are too stupid to think for themselves.
... wait....
if a woman drank 2 drinks and then played with a vibrator does the vibrator go to jail?
and how about animal sex? if some girl gets drunk enough to try to fuck a goose does the goose go to jail?
what the hell kind of messed up world is this?
A WORLD FULL OF SEXUALLY DEVIANT GEESE
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on September 03, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
What if a girl gets me drunk and sexes me? Is that rape, too?
...however if you can be drunker still and can get it up, its probably a miracle rape.
There seems to be a divide between my friends.
Some think 'whiskey dick' means you are to drunk to get it up, other think it means your are so drunk it won't go down.
My question is this, in this sue happy era, can either the victim sue the alcohol manufacturer for pain and suffering, or can the supposed "rapist" do the same for production of a legal date rape drug?
AND, if that goes through, which one never knows, can we then go further and sue the alcohol manufacturers for all the ugly people we slept with when intoxicated on their product? The possibilities for this are seemingly endless, child support, vehicle replacement if in an accident....
I will have to admit, if it's a two drink limit for rape, I'm a rapist and so are most of the people I went to high school and college with...
Damn, if nothing else I can start name calling when the next reunion hits a slow point.
To follow that train of thought, I should be able to sue Royal Carribean for child-support.
In fact, following the laws of shrapnel, we should be able to sue everyone for everything.
Quote from: Payne on September 04, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
In fact, following the laws of shrapnel, we should be able to sue everyone for everything.
Sweet. I am gonna sue those Goddamn Rhode Island swamp yankees for hogging up all the pork shoulder.
:argh!:
Quote from: Payne on September 04, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
In fact, following the laws of shrapnel, we should be able to sue everyone for everything.
Sweet, so can I sue George W. Bush and the GOP for fucking up the economy which lead to school budgets being slashed which has lead to 4 schools not being able to afford being in my program? Someone get me Robert Shapiro!
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 03, 2009, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: Richter on September 03, 2009, 08:56:31 PM
This century, no one will be callously grouped, labeled, or discriminated against in the courts. New crimes will be developed to suit your individual quirks, perversions, and uniqueness.
It's just as well. I was born guilty, anydamnway.
:lulz: