Do you have any organic treatments for Bach pain?
:argh!:
A nice warm sonata and a nap.
Actually, I might get a better Handel on it if I listen to some water music.
Where is the board for this game so I can upend it and make this stop?
Send me $50 and I'll tell you.
You have my deepest symphonies, Your Majesty, but I think we're on a (drum)roll for now.
Stop this verbal maestrobating!
Quote from: Waffle Iron on March 02, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
Stop this verbal maestrobating!
Hhhhot. I
treble with anticipa...tion.
schubert it'll cost you.
see Friday "ORANGE" :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31768.msg1151896.html#msg1151896)
Homeopathists! MESSAGE RECEIVED
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy
http://www.homeopathichealing.org/art2.html
http://www.doctormelissand.com/contact.html
Will look for Melissa in 2 hours & ReportPM
Stop this, or I will send a wolfgang at you.
I guess I'd better tymponi-up or Pachabel my bags and go home, then, eh?
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AROUND THIS BOARD. PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN PULLING THEIR WEIGHT, AND THERE ARE ASPIE TROLLS AMONG US, AND WHY IS GAY MARRIAGE STILL NOT A THING. ALSO, ABORTION. WHICHEVER SIDE OF THAT ARGUMENT IS LESS POPULAR IN THIS PARTICULAR GROUP. ALSO THE MUSIC YOU LIKE IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 02, 2012, 01:55:31 PM
Actually, I might get a better Handel on it if I listen to some water music.
You really didn't get enough credit for how neatly this one tied it all up...really hard act to follow. I mean, what are we? on Tenor eleven by now?
I am what they call a professional.
It's all in how you conduct yourself.
REHASH OF PREVIOUSLY RESOLVED PERSONAL GRUDGES! REGRETTABLE WORDS TYPED IN HASTE WHILE UPSET ABOUT UNRELATED THINGS THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN BACK NOW DUE TO PRIDE AND OBSTINANCE! PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE HISSY FIT! INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER'S GENITALIA!
I think you may need a tincture.
Whoah, now. Hold up! Let's crank down the tempo, take a rest and talk about this, okay? I mean, there's really no need to explode into a crescendo of butthurt.
Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
Whoah, now. Hold up! Let's crank down the tempo, take a rest and talk about this, okay? I mean, there's really no need to explode into a crescendo of butthurt.
See, you oversold that one.
No need to be so brass about it.
Punning is kind of like the force, you need to kind of just let it flow through you.
Or something.
I agre. You can't force it.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on March 02, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AROUND THIS BOARD. PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN PULLING THEIR WEIGHT, AND THERE ARE ASPIE TROLLS AMONG US, AND WHY IS GAY MARRIAGE STILL NOT A THING. ALSO, ABORTION. WHICHEVER SIDE OF THAT ARGUMENT IS LESS POPULAR IN THIS PARTICULAR GROUP. ALSO THE MUSIC YOU LIKE IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.
wat :lulz:
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on March 02, 2012, 04:06:59 PM
REHASH OF PREVIOUSLY RESOLVED PERSONAL GRUDGES! REGRETTABLE WORDS TYPED IN HASTE WHILE UPSET ABOUT UNRELATED THINGS THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN BACK NOW DUE TO PRIDE AND OBSTINANCE! PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE HISSY FIT! INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER'S GENITALIA!
I think I'm in love. :lulz:
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 02, 2012, 01:37:53 PM
Do you have any organic treatments for Bach pain?
Chopin out the affected area is organic.
This thread has become confusing. Can WHN please make a liszt of the treatments proffered?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
I think I'm in love. :lulz:
daw, nobody else understands THE HATE.
I don't understand why you think it needs to be in this thread. Not to be oppositional, but it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 03, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
I don't understand why you think it needs to be in this thread. Not to be oppositional, but it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.
PD.com is like a tapestry. I forgot the rest of the metaphor.
PD.com is like suede jeans. It makes your anus sting.
The Swiss Government's Remarkable Report on Homeopathic Medicine (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/homeopathic-medicine-_b_1258607.html)Quote
The Swiss government has a long and widely-respected history of neutrality, and therefore, reports from this government on controversial subjects need to be taken more seriously than other reports from countries that are more strongly influenced by present economic and political constituencies. When one considers that two of the top five largest drug companies in the world have their headquarters in Switzerland, one might assume that this country would have a heavy interest in and bias toward conventional medicine, but such assumptions would be wrong.
In late 2011, the Swiss government's report on homeopathic medicine represents the most comprehensive evaluation of homeopathic medicine ever written by a government and was just published in book form in English (Bornhoft and Matthiessen, 2011). This breakthrough report affirmed that homeopathic treatment is both effective and cost-effective and that homeopathic treatment should be reimbursed by Switzerland's national health insurance program.
The Swiss government's inquiry into homeopathy and complementary and alternative (CAM) treatments resulted from the high demand and widespread use of alternatives to conventional medicine in Switzerland, not only from consumers but from physicians as well. Approximately half of the Swiss population have used CAM treatments and value them. Further, about half of Swiss physicians consider CAM treatments to be effective. Perhaps most significantly, 85 percent of the Swiss population wants CAM therapies to be a part of their country's health insurance program.
It is therefore not surprising that more than 50 percent of the Swiss population surveyed prefer a hospital that provides CAM treatments rather to one that is limited to conventional medical care.
Beginning in 1998, the government of Switzerland decided to broaden its national health insurance to include certain complementary and alternative medicines, including homeopathic medicine, traditional Chinese medicine, herbal medicine, anthroposophic medicine, and neural therapy. This reimbursement was provisional while the Swiss government commissioned an extensive study on these treatments to determine if they were effective and cost-effective. The provisional reimbursement for these alternative treatments ended in 2005, but as a result of this new study, the Swiss government's health insurance program once again began to reimburse for homeopathy and select alternative treatments. In fact, as a result of a national referendum in which more than two-thirds of voters supported the inclusion of homeopathic and select alternative medicines in Switzerland's national health care insurance program, the field of complementary and alternative medicine has become a part of this government's constitution (Dacey, 2009; Rist, Schwabl, 2009).
The Swiss Government's "Health Technology Assessment"
The Swiss government's "Health Technology Assessment" on homeopathic medicine is much more comprehensive than any previous governmental report written on this subject to date. Not only did this report carefully and comprehensively review the body of evidence from randomized double-blind and placebo controlled clinical trials testing homeopathic medicines, they also evaluated the "real world effectiveness" as well as safety and cost-effectiveness. The report also conducted a highly-comprehensive review of the wide body of preclinical research (fundamental physio-chemical research, botanical studies, animal studies, and in vitro studies with human cells).
And still further, this report evaluated systematic reviews and meta-analyses, outcome studies, and epidemiological research. This wide review carefully evaluated the studies conducted, both in terms of quality of design and execution (called "internal validity") and how appropriate each was for the way that homeopathy is commonly practiced (called "external validity"). The subject of external validity is of special importance because some scientists and physicians conduct research on homeopathy with little or no understanding of this type of medicine (some studies tested a homeopathic medicine that is rarely used for the condition tested, while others utilized medicines not commonly indicated for specific patients). When such studies inevitably showed that the homeopathic medicine did not "work," the real and accurate assessment must be that the studies were set up to disprove homeopathy... or simply, the study was an exploratory trial that sought to evaluate the results of a new treatment (exploratory trials of this nature are not meant to prove or disprove the system of homeopathy but only to evaluate that specific treatment for a person with a specific condition).
After assessing pre-clinical basic research and the high quality clinical studies, the Swiss report affirmed that homeopathic high-potencies seem to induce regulatory effects (e.g., balancing or normalizing effects) and specific changes in cells or living organisms. The report also reported that 20 of the 22 systematic reviews of clinical research testing homeopathic medicines detected at least a trend in favor of homeopathy.* (Bornhöft, Wolf, von Ammon, et al, 2006)
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more @ link
I was considering that the dude who brought up "Homeopathy" last time & got dogpiled under American-embedded-definitions while reading this......
So what is the Swiss definition?
The article veers from "homeopathy" into "CAM" treatments, which is a MUCH wider umbrella.
It also contains no puns!
:argh!:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 06, 2012, 04:38:06 AM
The article veers from "homeopathy" into "CAM" treatments, which is a MUCH wider umbrella.
Yes, this.
Also, Telarus, by "American-embedded definitions" did you mean "German"? Because homeopathy originated in Germany, and has an existing definition.
Some people seem to think that "Homeopathy" is a non-specific word that covers a variety of alternative medical treatments. It is not; it is a word that means something quite specific, which is the treatment of ailments with highly diluted substances which, if administered at full strength, would cause symptoms similar to the ailment.
The reason that guy got "dogpiled" (the fun and popular word that means "argued with by multiple people", usually occurring when someone is making false statements) is not because his country has a different definition, but because he was refusing to use the existing definition, or even to look it the fuck up.
The article you posted specifically mentioned "homeopathy and CAM treatments". Does that imply that CAM treatments are a form of homeopathy?
Quote from: Telarus on March 06, 2012, 04:11:35 PM
:edit: I apologize if my first comment [along w/ the article] came across as snark. I've been sick this past week, and have noticed it's been effecting the way I communicate.
Quote from: Telarus on March 06, 2012, 04:17:40 PM
Quote from: Telarus on March 06, 2012, 04:11:35 PM
:edit: I apologize if my first comment [along w/ the article] came across as snark. I've been sick this past week, and have noticed it's been effecting the way I communicate.
No worries. :)
Homeo + Pathy.
Homeo/Homo = same
Pathy = Pathology, disease.
Homeopathic Medicine = Medicine derrived from the same shit that made you sick in the first place...commonly understood to be diluted a whatever-fold with water.
Ensue hilarity.
Vaccines are homeopathy!?!?!
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 07, 2012, 01:09:24 PM
Vaccines are homeopathy!?!?!
Nope. Prevention. You aren't experiencing a pathological condition when you get them and in fact; they rely on your body's current state of and tendency to return to Homeo
static conditions.
A good example of Homeopathy would be getting drunk to cure a hangover. "Hair of the dog that bitcha."
Speaking of which, I would kill someone's cat for a glass of red wine right now.
Talk about a flawed argument:
QuoteThe Swiss government has a long and widely-respected history of neutrality
Yeah, in
diplomatic matters.
Ireland's also neutral. Does this mean we should accept that Catholicism is the one true religion, given it's popularity there? Idiot.
I feel like this thread should be merged with the poop thread since they're both gonna end up in the same place.
Poop + Homeopathics = Dysentery.
Mmmmm...
Oh look - turns out the author of that blog post, Dana Ullman, has been convicted for practicing medicine without a licence (http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-list-discussion/7345-i-arrested-30-years-today-practicing-medicine-without-alicense.html) and peddles homeopathic revisionist history (http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/12/homeopathic-revolution-by-dana-ullman.html) to the population at large. Not to mention this vicious takedown (http://scienceblogs.com/whitecoatunderground/2010/04/dana_ullman.php).
Cain, no fair actually researching the post! :lol:
Incidentally, this is awesome:
QuoteUllman calls himself an "expert in homeopathic medicine" (which is akin to being a unicorn veterinarian)
Oh, another thing: Thanks to Cain, I now know this (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page) exists. Which is pretty cool.
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
I feel like this thread should be merged with the poop thread since they're both gonna end up in the same place.
Poop + Homeopathics = Dysentery.
Mmmmm...
Well, I never really intended for this thread to be a serious discussion of homeopathy, but I suppose on some level I deserve it for any threads I've unintentionally derailed with a joke.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 07, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
I feel like this thread should be merged with the poop thread since they're both gonna end up in the same place.
Poop + Homeopathics = Dysentery.
Mmmmm...
Well, I never really intended for this thread to be a serious discussion of homeopathy, but I suppose on some level I deserve it for any threads I've unintentionally derailed with a joke.
Just jazzin ya.
Also: derailing shit with jokes is what it's all about, man.
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 07, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
I feel like this thread should be merged with the poop thread since they're both gonna end up in the same place.
Poop + Homeopathics = Dysentery.
Mmmmm...
Well, I never really intended for this thread to be a serious discussion of homeopathy, but I suppose on some level I deserve it for any threads I've unintentionally derailed with a joke.
Just jazzin ya.
Also: derailing shit with jokes is what it's all about, man.
Except for the fact that a whole bunch of us seriously hate that shit.
Quote from: Nigel on March 07, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on March 07, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: navkat on March 07, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
I feel like this thread should be merged with the poop thread since they're both gonna end up in the same place.
Poop + Homeopathics = Dysentery.
Mmmmm...
Well, I never really intended for this thread to be a serious discussion of homeopathy, but I suppose on some level I deserve it for any threads I've unintentionally derailed with a joke.
Just jazzin ya.
Also: derailing shit with jokes is what it's all about, man.
Except for the fact that a whole bunch of us seriously hate that shit.
Hey, Lady! Derailing shit with jokes is the only reason I'm not making noodle art every Wednesday and still have my "shoelace privileges."
Quote from: AFK on March 02, 2012, 01:55:31 PM
Actually, I might get a better Handel on it if I listen to some water music.
I think this was like my best pun ever. Sadly, or happily for many, I lost the pun juju.
Burnout is a bitch!