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"Is weather modification real? A Florida lawmaker is trying to ban it. What are chemtrails?"

As per this article:

"Miami state Sen. Ileana Garcia has introduced legislation banning "weather modification activities" in Florida.

It is uncertain what actual practice she may be addressing, although the language of the bill and her social media reposts suggest she is seeking to ban "chemtrails," the fear of a long-running conspiracy theory that nefarious people or government agencies are spreading toxic chemicals on an unsuspecting populace through the white trails in the sky left by airplanes.

If SB 56 passes, it would repeal nearly a dozen provisions in Florida statutes that allow state-licensed weather modification such as cloud-seeding to cause rain, block any future innovations, and prohibit the injection, release or dispersion of any substance or apparatus into the atmosphere within Florida's borders "for the express purpose of affecting the temperature, the weather, or the intensity of sunlight."

The bill also adds a fine of up to $10,000 for violations.

"As a leader in the community, I'm committed to addressing the real issues affecting our communities," Garcia said in a post on X, formerly Twitter, where she also shared a post from a user praising her bill and pointing out suspicious contrails. "As a mother, daughter, and community member, I care deeply about our neighborhoods.""

Here's the link:   Floriduh, Weather Modification, and Chemtrails Trifecta!

More elected officials should be as "committed to addressing the real issues affecting our communities."

This, combined with actual climate science, would ban internal combustion engines...

So, I have two (2) questions for you, as follows:

1. How many votes did TSF lose over his own unconditional support for Israel?

2. In the end, what difference did the lose of those votes actually make?

1. looks like about 2 Million

2. It didn't make any difference, because Harris didn't have a better policy.

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

 Along with work to help for when you inevitably become one

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

I thought he was going to eliminate the DOE? 

I am a bit confused by your boss, a dictator has taken power, and that makes her more eager to make weapons?  Isn't that putting weapons at the disposal of the dictator?

[Buyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!]

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

it looks like they lost a lot of votes because Leftists stayed home to me.

The term for this behavior is "being the architect of your own reward."

Well sure, and you can be angry at folks who didn't vote all you want, but that doesn't inspire them to vote.  Meanwhile a candidate that actually speaks to their desires probably would.  Offering to put Republicans in the cabinet, pledging to be the toughest on immigration, and otherwise courting conservatives didn't get any of them to vote for her.

Maybe it's because I've been warming up to electoral politics the past few months, but I think this is the one time where the democrats didn't really do anything wrong. Her campaign policies on immigration and Gaza were questionable but a lot of exit polls show that Americans didn't give a shit about the border or foreign policy when voting. I genuinely think a lot of them are just too uneducated to know what the fuck they're voting for.

Well, if I had to blame one person for this, it would be Biden. He should've never reran for office in the first place and a primary should've been held. If people didn't want to vote for Kamala, it would've shown there. What's done is done, all that's left to do is to observe what happens next. Personally, I hope it's just another age of filibustering again. The republicans do have everything but it's not by a supermajority so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a government shutdown or two in the next couple of years. But I don't want to imply we're in for smooth sailing, at the very least the government is going to get way more corrupt and fucked up with whoever Drumpf fires and replaces.

I sincerely hope the Democrats filibuster like mad, it's not their style, but it could happen.

I think a big part of the problem is the lack of real progressive messaging in the media, which seem to mostly represent corporate interests and, you know, Putin.

And even then, part of the problem with what little independent progressive media that is out there, is that the progressive message tends to be complex and nuanced, and it turns out we really need the votes of some 15 million or so people who are maybe not so good at processing that kind of information.

Progressives make up 30% of dems.  Blue dog dems make up another 30%, and 40% are your bedrock liberals that aren't opposed.

So what happens when you take the party too left, you get ~ 70-80% of your voters showing up and then you're fucked because the MAGA assholes run off with everything.

I'm

I think a big part of the problem is the lack of real progressive messaging in the media, which seem to mostly represent corporate interests and, you know, Putin.

And even then, part of the problem with what little independent progressive media that is out there, is that the progressive message tends to be complex and nuanced, and it turns out we really need the votes of some 15 million or so people who are maybe not so good at processing that kind of information.

Progressives make up 30% of dems.  Blue dog dems make up another 30%, and 40% are your bedrock liberals that aren't opposed.

So what happens when you take the party too left, you get ~ 70-80% of your voters showing up and then you're fucked because the MAGA assholes run off with everything.

I'm not wild about it, but we just saw it happen.

Well, that and the bullshit economy thing.

not wild about it, but we just saw it happen.

Well, that and the bullshit economy thing.

You think the Democrats moved too far left?  That's not my perception at all, it looks like they lost a lot of votes because Leftists stayed home to me.

Maybe it's because I've been warming up to electoral politics the past few months, but I think this is the one time where the democrats didn't really do anything wrong. Her campaign policies on immigration and Gaza were questionable but a lot of exit polls show that Americans didn't give a shit about the border or foreign policy when voting. I genuinely think a lot of them are just too uneducated to know what the fuck they're voting for.

Well, if I had to blame one person for this, it would be Biden. He should've never reran for office in the first place and a primary should've been held. If people didn't want to vote for Kamala, it would've shown there. What's done is done, all that's left to do is to observe what happens next. Personally, I hope it's just another age of filibustering again. The republicans do have everything but it's not by a supermajority so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a government shutdown or two in the next couple of years. But I don't want to imply we're in for smooth sailing, at the very least the government is going to get way more corrupt and fucked up with whoever Drumpf fires and replaces.

I sincerely hope the Democrats filibuster like mad, it's not their style, but it could happen.

5. Negative campaigns are extremely effective. Running a positive campaign achieves no more than does "Preaching to the choir."

Don't believe me? Then, consider giving some thought to how well the "When they go low, we go high" strategy worked out for the Democratic Party.

If they'd gone high, with real proposals that helped the working class, they'd have won, but they're too indebted to corporations, and Israel, and can't support policy that would piss those folks off, so they don't get widespread support.

In this case it really wasn't that folks like Trump, he got less votes than he did when he lost in 2020, it was that folks really didn't like Harris.  her support for Israel kept a lot of folks home, and campaigning with Republicans, and pledging to put them in the cabinet, lost her more.  Until Democrats realize they can't win conservatives over, and they need to work to inspire the left, they will keep losing.

Sound off nerds, who's not dead yet?

I'm dead, I think.

My life has improved, since the more active forum times, which I did participate in, all aftermathy stuff, but still, participation.

Improved, calmed down, I've gotten quiet, but I never did post that much and most of it was shit stirring, which is never really needed, and is much less fun on a nearly empty board.

The challenge isn't making art, anyone can make art, and with practice most people can make good art. The challenge is making a living, if you want to make a living making art you need to get good at sales, convince people that your art is worth paying you enough that you can survive on selling it.  That's mostly about creating the idea of value in the heads of folks who might pay for it.

Has anyone said why the GOP is not controlling the weather too?