Poetry.com published my poem in a book called Timeless Voices. They put it on the first page. The poem is:
Contrarywise
Eris holds me in her hand,
While vampires gape at Wonderland,
Heaven or Hell or purgatory,
Says the Devil God with the pyramid story,
In paradox, an anxious solace,
Here in Heaven's Devil's palace.
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Congrats, Benaclypse. First page, no less!
you do know poetry.com is a joke right?
They wanted to give me the "unique privelege" of publishing one of my poems too. They pump up your ego in hopes you'll plunk down the $60 to see your poem in a shiny book. They make it sound like you are one of a select few, which is total and utter BS.
just sayin.
Still, as an unpublished poet myself, I can appreciate the victories, small though they may be to others. *shrug*
Real poetry should not be published, it should be disseminated. This is true of all art. If art is sold it encourages the artist to do it for the wrong reason. Artists should live in poverty anyway otherwise they're one step further down the rocky road to corporate art.
Bullshit.
I would kill to get paid for what I love to do. I reject the notion that one's "work" must be "work".
LMNO
-however, works in insurance.
Quote from: LMNO on December 06, 2006, 06:15:18 PM
Bullshit.
I would kill to get paid for what I love to do. I reject the notion that one's "work" must be "work".
LMNO
-however, works in insurance.
Agreed. My tongue was kinda stuck in my cheek there.
Quote from: LMNO on December 06, 2006, 06:15:18 PM
Bullshit.
I would kill to get paid for what I love to do. I reject the notion that one's "work" must be "work".
LMNO
-however, works in insurance.
i would kill to be left alone to do what i want to do
the notion of getting paid doesnt even appeal to me any more
i bought a muthafuckin box of crayons last week
96 colors for 5 bucks
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 06, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
you do know poetry.com is a joke right?
They wanted to give me the "unique privelege" of publishing one of my poems too. They pump up your ego in hopes you'll plunk down the $60 to see your poem in a shiny book. They make it sound like you are one of a select few, which is total and utter BS.
just sayin.
Yeah, I figured that out by now. It's a ripoff, and I'm gonna return the book. I haven't even paid them for it yet, but they sent me the book anyways with a letter saying they'll track me down and kill me if I don't pay the $50 for the little thing. Well sorta. It'd be a fair deal if it was 10 or 20 $. I'm a schmuck. Why did I ever agree to $50? I'm embarassed. :|
i heard about a lot of people that it happened to
thats why theyre still in business
I'm actually having a hard time looking for a publisher right now that doesn't want $800 in their hand RIGHT NOW before even looking at the manuscript of my novel...And it's not even DONE yet! I just want a feel for the industry.
sorry Ben, :-(
next time demand to see a contract
protect your rights first
then get excited
the publishing industry is full of crooks willy to take advatage of people's emotions
actually worse then the music industry and thats hard to believe sometimes
Publishing is only second to the mob in crime.
Just saying.
That said, I still find it a feat to get published ONLINE even. *shrug*
it should also be mentioned that it IS possible to write a poem that's shitty enough to not get published by poetry.com.
it's also kind of fun.
Share, share!
Quote from: Jenne on December 07, 2006, 01:46:29 AM
Publishing is only second to the mob in crime.
Just saying.
That said, I still find it a feat to get published ONLINE even. *shrug*
Looking into options, it costs money to publish an Ebook...
Yes, an Ebook, a fucking PDF file will soak you like $300 from a "self-publishing" company. ;_;
I was reading a site today where they were like, "Watch out for those so-called self-publishing companies that will charge you outrageous fees for your book to barely get noticed. If you pay our DEPOSIT of $899, we will help you attain your goal of becoming a published author!"
I smacked my head into the desk, and went back to Google.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on December 07, 2006, 03:22:20 AM
it should also be mentioned that it IS possible to write a poem that's shitty enough to not get published by poetry.com.
it's also kind of fun.
Is it Vogon poetry? o.o That would make it the worst in the universe.
Quote from: Benaclypse on December 06, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 06, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
you do know poetry.com is a joke right? 
They wanted to give me the "unique privelege" of publishing one of my poems too.  They pump up your ego in hopes you'll plunk down the $60 to see your poem in a shiny book.  They make it sound like you are one of a select few, which is total and utter BS. 
just sayin.
Yeah, I figured that out by now.  It's a ripoff, and I'm gonna return the book.  I haven't even paid them for it yet, but they sent me the book anyways with a letter saying they'll track me down and kill me if I don't pay the $50 for the little thing.  Well sorta.  It'd be a fair deal if it was 10 or 20 $.  I'm a schmuck.  Why did I ever agree to $50?  I'm embarassed.   :|
Don't be emberrassed. I thought the same as you did until I got another letter, from another outfit, and that set my BS detector off. Did you submit your poem directly to them or did they pick it up somewhere? With mine I think they found it on a on-line poetry site where I have some poems up.
Be nice if we could find a way to get these fuckers really good
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on December 07, 2006, 04:51:47 PM
Be nice if we could find a way to get these fuckers really good
Pass off some obscure copyrighted shit as your own then report it when it gets published.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 07, 2006, 04:49:07 PM
Quote from: Benaclypse on December 06, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 06, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
you do know poetry.com is a joke right?
They wanted to give me the "unique privelege" of publishing one of my poems too. They pump up your ego in hopes you'll plunk down the $60 to see your poem in a shiny book. They make it sound like you are one of a select few, which is total and utter BS.
just sayin.
Yeah, I figured that out by now. It's a ripoff, and I'm gonna return the book. I haven't even paid them for it yet, but they sent me the book anyways with a letter saying they'll track me down and kill me if I don't pay the $50 for the little thing. Well sorta. It'd be a fair deal if it was 10 or 20 $. I'm a schmuck. Why did I ever agree to $50? I'm embarassed. :|
Don't be emberrassed. I thought the same as you did until I got another letter, from another outfit, and that set my BS detector off. Did you submit your poem directly to them or did they pick it up somewhere? With mine I think they found it on a on-line poetry site where I have some poems up.
It started off as an online advertisement to enter a poem for free and potentially win a prize. They never gave me prize money, but said they wanted my permission to publish it in a book, which I gave them no problem, but also agreed to buy a book. Shouldn't have done that. My bad. Their bad too.
My words are like Lightning~
My Poem is the bomb~
Priceless as Life itself~
Yet worth a Kajillion dollars~
To Poetry dot com.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on December 07, 2006, 04:51:47 PM
Be nice if we could find a way to get these fuckers really good
co-sign
they embody a lot of the more aggrevating traits of this society
bait and capture tactics
im all for the bait, but i prefer the opposite of capture
Robin Hood ITT
Quote from: Benaclypse on December 06, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 06, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
you do know poetry.com is a joke right?
They wanted to give me the "unique privelege" of publishing one of my poems too. They pump up your ego in hopes you'll plunk down the $60 to see your poem in a shiny book. They make it sound like you are one of a select few, which is total and utter BS.
just sayin.
Yeah, I figured that out by now. It's a ripoff, and I'm gonna return the book. I haven't even paid them for it yet, but they sent me the book anyways with a letter saying they'll track me down and kill me if I don't pay the $50 for the little thing. Well sorta. It'd be a fair deal if it was 10 or 20 $. I'm a schmuck. Why did I ever agree to $50? I'm embarassed. :|
You should be, getting published isn't a big deal and you should be
getting paid not
paying for it. Just sayin.
MGD,
justly sayin.
Quote from: Jenne on December 07, 2006, 01:46:29 AM
Publishing is only second to the mob in crime.
Just saying.
That said, I still find it a feat to get published ONLINE even. *shrug*
Are you fucking serious?
:lol:
^ for reference, that's me laughing at you
I've been published in print for 5 magazines, 2 books, and too many newspapers to count and I'm still in college.
MGD,
Media Mafioso and Feat-Accomplisher extraordinarre, apparently.
:lol:
^me still laughing at you
It really isn't all that hard to get published online either. Especially if you are good at networking, schmoozing, etc. I had a guy publish some of my stuff on his site just because he liked me and I helped him out with something. Of course, to be completely arrogant, my stuff was pretty decent too.
And also, it is really easy to get published in print when you are the Managing Editor of a magazine! :-D
Quote from: Persistent Vegetative State on December 12, 2006, 05:25:50 AM
Quote from: Jenne on December 07, 2006, 01:46:29 AM
Publishing is only second to the mob in crime.
Just saying.
That said, I still find it a feat to get published ONLINE even. *shrug*
Are you fucking serious?
:lol:
^ for reference, that's me laughing at you
I've been published in print for 5 magazines, 2 books, and too many newspapers to count and I'm still in college.
MGD,
Media Mafioso and Feat-Accomplisher extraordinarre, apparently.
:lol:
^me still laughing at you
It's truly not who you are, but who you know.
And yes, I'm serious.
Give us your "real name" in ink, buddyboi, and we'll decide what kind of publications you are in. Because becoming a published auteur is no mean feat.
Yes, deadly serious. Srsly srs.
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 12, 2006, 02:53:45 PM
It really isn't all that hard to get published online either. Especially if you are good at networking, schmoozing, etc. I had a guy publish some of my stuff on his site just because he liked me and I helped him out with something. Of course, to be completely arrogant, my stuff was pretty decent too.
And also, it is really easy to get published in print when you are the Managing Editor of a magazine! :-D
Oh, I've been published online dozens of times.  Again, the "not who you are but who you know" as you pointed out above.  Online publishing is not exactly hard, you're right.  Unless you're unconnected, which I was a while back...only recently found some people willing to help me out.
Getting a work of fiction published by a big publishing house, however, near to impossible, unless you're already "connected." 
Oh, and one more thing...I noticed being in an ivory tower situation makes publishing that much easier. You have the name and rep of the institution you are attending behind you. Whereas, on your own, it's a little more difficult. No name = no clout.
yup
true
Even discounting Discordian books and MWM, I've been published in three seperate online publications, and if you include the above that makes 3 online magazines, 1 journal and soon to be five books (including one very well known counterculture classic).
And no, you cannot have my damn name.
Cain, I wasn't calling anyone out. But come on. There are plenty of struggling authors out there that try very very hard to get published, and never do. Being laughed at by that asshat Fnordbutt just because I said a truism is what I was reacting to. This is the nets...anyone can claim ANYTHING. Saying, "Oh, gee, I'm published all the fucking time, so SCREW YOU funny hag!" ain't gonna make your argument stick, just saying.
I'm not questioning anyone's veracity. But if you're going to point and laugh, make sure your own pants aren't hanging down around your knees.
And I'm pointing out its very easy to get published, in certain circumstances. And I also know for a fact that MGD has very sound media connections and professional camera skills. Coupled with my own experience (of having neither and still getting published) I have no reason to doubt his word.
YOU knew for a fact, *I* didn't. I don't know him from Adam.
And it really really depends on who you are and what you're getting published, doesn't it? *shrug*
Some get a contract first time off, lucky stroke or someone pulling a favor. Some are just in the right place at the right time.
Usually, though, those in the college setting have waaaay more access to publishers than laypeople. For a reason. The Ivory Tower(tm) is where all the studies, R&D and journal excerpts are cultivated, derived and, essentially, born.
I don't know MGD from a hippie on the street. I know he calls into question MY credentials quite often. Though I've dropped enough info in the last YEAR that anyone with any brain at all can verify who I am, probably find out where I live and what I've been up to. I'm an open book, however, pun unintended.
Always have been.
And let me be clear: I'm not arguing with you.
I'd also recommend staying away from self-publishing, most of them are scams. My goal for 2007 is to get my manuscript done and start sending it off to REAL publishers, even then, who the hell knows...
anybody interested in getting published should prolly contact HIMEOBS
i heard they run all media
and they only take 25 % of all earnings (or so they tell you)
now thats a deal!!!!!
Quote from: Jenne on December 12, 2006, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: Persistent Vegetative State on December 12, 2006, 05:25:50 AM
Quote from: Jenne on December 07, 2006, 01:46:29 AM
Publishing is only second to the mob in crime.
Just saying.
That said, I still find it a feat to get published ONLINE even. *shrug*
Are you fucking serious?
:lol:
^ for reference, that's me laughing at you
I've been published in print for 5 magazines, 2 books, and too many newspapers to count and I'm still in college.
MGD,
Media Mafioso and Feat-Accomplisher extraordinarre, apparently.
:lol:
^me still laughing at you
It's truly not who you are, but who you know.
And yes, I'm serious.
Give us your "real name" in ink, buddyboi, and we'll decide what kind of publications you are in. Because becoming a published auteur is no mean feat.
Yes, deadly serious. Srsly srs.
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
You're partly right about it being who you know, but you also have to be capable of producing stuff that's worth publishing. Time isn't going to run Bobby's poem about how depressed he is because nobody cares.
Yeah, let me give my identity out on the internet because I care so deeply about what other people on the internet think of my work. Excellent idea!
Quote from: Jenne on December 12, 2006, 06:46:41 PM
Oh, and one more thing...I noticed being in an ivory tower situation makes publishing that much easier. You have the name and rep of the institution you are attending behind you. Whereas, on your own, it's a little more difficult. No name = no clout.
Try working your way up from the bottom. Try working for small publications so you can get clips to submit to slightly larger publications, repeat. That's probably the best way to get your stuff out there, schmoozing never hurts either.
Quote from: Jenne on December 12, 2006, 11:52:38 PM
Cain, I wasn't calling anyone out. But come on. There are plenty of struggling authors out there that try very very hard to get published, and never do. Being laughed at by that asshat Fnordbutt just because I said a truism is what I was reacting to. This is the nets...anyone can claim ANYTHING. Saying, "Oh, gee, I'm published all the fucking time, so SCREW YOU funny hag!" ain't gonna make your argument stick, just saying.
I'm not questioning anyone's veracity. But if you're going to point and laugh, make sure your own pants aren't hanging down around your knees.
Once again, what in your right fucking mind would make you think anyone in their right fucking mind would give out their identity online especially on a board like this?
Also, if you're going to try to get anything published you need thick skin because editors and publishers will tear you apart. If you think I'm being a dick try working for a magazine where the chief editor throws shit at people.
Quote from: kaousuu on December 13, 2006, 12:44:28 AM
I'd also recommend staying away from self-publishing, most of them are scams. My goal for 2007 is to get my manuscript done and start sending it off to REAL publishers, even then, who the hell knows...
Troof.
I don't know a ton about book and movie publishing but the more people who see your stuff the better your odds are.
Quote from: LHX on December 13, 2006, 03:50:52 AM
anybody interested in getting published should prolly contact HIMEOBS
i heard they run all media
Also troof.
Quote from: Persistent Vegetative State on December 13, 2006, 05:55:45 AM
Also, if you're going to try to get anything published you need thick skin because editors and publishers will tear you apart. If you think I'm being a dick try working for a magazine where the chief editor throws shit at people.
I worked as an intern for the NY Times. Please, I know the evils that are chief editors.
Quote from: Persistent Vegetative State on December 13, 2006, 05:55:45 AM
Quote from: Jenne on December 12, 2006, 11:52:38 PM
Cain, I wasn't calling anyone out. But come on. There are plenty of struggling authors out there that try very very hard to get published, and never do. Being laughed at by that asshat Fnordbutt just because I said a truism is what I was reacting to. This is the nets...anyone can claim ANYTHING. Saying, "Oh, gee, I'm published all the fucking time, so SCREW YOU funny hag!" ain't gonna make your argument stick, just saying.
I'm not questioning anyone's veracity. But if you're going to point and laugh, make sure your own pants aren't hanging down around your knees.
Once again, what in your right fucking mind would make you think anyone in their right fucking mind would give out their identity online especially on a board like this?
Also, if you're going to try to get anything published you need thick skin because editors and publishers will tear you apart. If you think I'm being a dick try working for a magazine where the chief editor throws shit at people.
I was a law clerk in Hollywood in a former life.
Nuff said.
You're not being a dick, Fnordie, just yourself. :D
What exactly is a law clerk and why is it such a rough job?
Anything the lawyer you work for wants it to be.
And I worked off of Wilshire. We're talking "lawyer to the staaaars" *rolls eyes*
It's high pressure, get in at 7 and get your ass whipped by 7:02. Coffee had to be just perfect, everything goddammed perfect.
Ever read The Devil Wears Prada? THAT was my boss.
She accused me of stealing $3K, with no proof, and that's when I finally quit. I quit a $2K/mo job in '95 because I hated my life working for that bitch.
And come to find out, that's basically just how it is working for lawyers...even when you ARE a lawyer.
This whole thread reminds me of the publishing company from Umberto Eco's Folcauts Pendulum.
I just finished reading that a couple of days ago. The biggest thing I got from it was (paraphrase) "If you look for secrets everywhere, eventually you'll find them, but that doesn't mean they're real."
I know people who've gone the self-publishing route, and had a good time doing it, but the big dreams of fame and fortune don't materialize very often.
There is a page on Piers Anthony's website that lists all sorts of publishers and services for aspiring writers. It's not updated very often, but it is peer reviewed in that people with experiences from various sites let him know if they were good or bad. Link: http://www.hipiers.com/publishing.html
There's all sorts of writer's resources like http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/workshops/resource/ to be found on the net.