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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 01:10:30 AM

Title: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 01:10:30 AM
ARGHHHHH
Got my braces off at 10 AM today
Got my retainer that I have to wear FULL TIME and makes me sound like that kid from Breaking Bad (you know the one with Cerebral Palsy) at 4 PM.

WOO-HOOOOO 6 FULL HOURS WITHOUT HAVING SOME PIECE OF SHIT ATTACHED TO MY TEETH
:argh!:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!
(http://www.maledisciplinespanking.com/images/angry_spoiled_brat_teenage_girl.jpg)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 23, 2009, 03:31:33 AM
YEAY! Braces off!
Do yourself a favor and keep that retainer for as long as possible and wear it every day. Yesch you're gonna schound like zthisch and drool a lot, play with that. Make it funnier than it really is. Exaggerate it when you talk to your friends. Talk about excessively nerdy shit. Have fun with it!

If you don't wear it, your teeth will move.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Suu on September 23, 2009, 03:32:34 AM
My retainer broke in my mouth, scarred my palette and my teeth shifted because I refused to get another one. I wish I did, because I look like a horse. Trust me, it's a necessary evil. You'll get used to it, and you'll only have it for a few months anyway.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:48:56 AM
Oky doky.
I wish I could of had a fucking day or too without some shit on my teeth
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 23, 2009, 03:54:31 AM
Well you can always yank it out to smile for pictures.
As long as you shove it right back in there afterward.

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!
(http://www.maledisciplinespanking.com/images/angry_spoiled_brat_teenage_girl.jpg)


What's with this old man shit from everyone?  I'm not that fucking old!  GODDAMMIT!  CUT THAT SHIT OUT, YOU FUCKING PUNKS!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:45 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 03:54:31 AM
Well you can always yank it out to smile for pictures.
As long as you shove it right back in there afterward.



:lmnuendo:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Brotep on September 23, 2009, 03:58:32 AM
Hi, I'm from the nursing home.

I hear tell one of our guests has gone on walkabout.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brotep on September 23, 2009, 03:58:32 AM
Hi, I'm from the nursing home.

I hear tell one of our guests has gone on walkabout.

:clint:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:02:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:45 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 03:54:31 AM
Well you can always yank it out to smile for pictures.
As long as you shove it right back in there afterward.



:lmnuendo:
:lol:

Where would we be without you Roger?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:03:18 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:02:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:45 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 03:54:31 AM
Well you can always yank it out to smile for pictures.
As long as you shove it right back in there afterward.



:lmnuendo:
:lol:

Where would we be without you Roger?

Without religious guidance, that's where.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:10:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?

In my day, we went to sock hops and returned before curfew everyday to some hot apple pie

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:10:59 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:10:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?

In my day, we went to sock hops and returned before curfew everyday to some hot apple pie



Okay, see if I rant for YOU again.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 23, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble



yike  :aaa:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:13:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:10:59 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:10:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:01:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?

In my day, we went to sock hops and returned before curfew everyday to some hot apple pie



Okay, see if I rant for YOU again.

:sad:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:13:57 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble



yike  :aaa:
Also, seconded.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble



yike  :aaa:

We took these things SERIOUSLY, back when Reagan was president.  We had no choice.  It was either that, or join the Calvary Baptist Church and turn republican.  Drugs were our only real option.  Plus, the music was way better than most of what plays today, if you could find the right bands.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:17:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Plus, the music was way better than most of what plays today, if you could find the right bands.
That's not saying much.
For Godsakes this man is "the voice of this generation, of this decade"
(http://blog.silive.com/entertainment_impact_music/2009/09/large_9-14vmas.jpg)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:21:18 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:17:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Plus, the music was way better than most of what plays today, if you could find the right bands.
That's not saying much.
For Godsakes this man is "the voice of this generation, of this decade"
(http://blog.silive.com/entertainment_impact_music/2009/09/large_9-14vmas.jpg)

Says who?  There's good music out right now.  I'm kinda partial to Against Me, though without Warren Oakes, I kinda doubt they'll do much more.  Also, MSI is pretty cool.

But we had The Dead Kennedies, Henry Rollins before he sucked, The Rolling Stones were still (technically) alive, Aerosmith, Roger Waters first solo stuff (BOO YAH), and Tom Petty's best years.

I will also state that 99% of country music is absolute SHIT now, as opposed to 85% in 1981.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:24:31 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:21:18 AM
Quote from: Agent Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:17:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Plus, the music was way better than most of what plays today, if you could find the right bands.
That's not saying much.
For Godsakes this man is "the voice of this generation, of this decade"
(http://blog.silive.com/entertainment_impact_music/2009/09/large_9-14vmas.jpg)

Says who?  

Him

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/13/kanye-west-im-the-voice-o_n_143703.html

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:28:01 AM
I am amazed that the voice of your generation doesn't know what a Catch-22 is.

:lulz:

Actually, I'm not.  He's a moron.  You should do something about him, before all of us geezers laugh so hard at you bastards that we'll need our medication stepped up.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:33:49 AM
Look I'm fucked.
Now a days Alternativeā„¢ (http://is) the mainstream. The counterculture was bought out by Nike and Capitol Records.
You guys atleast had something original.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Nast on September 23, 2009, 04:38:55 AM
In my day their were no counter cultures, because we were to busy eating Australopithecus to give a hoot about being "hip"!

:gheyforum:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Nast on September 23, 2009, 04:41:05 AM
I also sympathize with you about the retainer. But one soon gets used to it .
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 04:45:26 AM
Quote from: Nasturtiums on September 23, 2009, 04:41:05 AM
I also sympathize with you about the retainer. But one soon gets used to it .

Here's to hoping eh?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Triple Zero on September 23, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
i had a retainer and now me teef are all straight and shit. it was worth it. though i wouldnt want to have to do it again.

and um yeah I went to look up Aerosmith cause I didnt remember why I think they sucked, but then I saw they made "Pink" which is an awesome song, so I figured I had them confused with Bon Jovi. no I don't know why, either.

and just before you go all heathen that I mixed up Bon Jovi and Aerosmith :) back in tha day when I still listened radio (first half of the 90s), I absolutely loathed rock music and in fact pretty much anything with a focus on lyrical content, so I never bothered or cared to remember any of the names. I do recognize the songs though.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:21:18 AM

But we had The Dead Kennedies, Henry Rollins before he sucked, The Rolling Stones were still (technically) alive, Aerosmith, Roger Waters first solo stuff (BOO YAH), and Tom Petty's best years.


All of that.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on September 23, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
i had a retainer and now me teef are all straight and shit. it was worth it. though i wouldnt want to have to do it again.

and um yeah I went to look up Aerosmith cause I didnt remember why I think they sucked, but then I saw they made "Pink" which is an awesome song, so I figured I had them confused with Bon Jovi. no I don't know why, either.

and just before you go all heathen that I mixed up Bon Jovi and Aerosmith :) back in tha day when I still listened radio (first half of the 90s), I absolutely loathed rock music and in fact pretty much anything with a focus on lyrical content, so I never bothered or cared to remember any of the names. I do recognize the songs though.

I could understand current day Bon Jovi and Aerosmith, because they are both monumentally awful.  But then again, Bon Jovi was monumentally awful from the word go.  Aerosmith, at least, has some decent tunes in their early cataloge, and their blues album wasn't awful. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 23, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
their blues album wasn't awful. 

:crankey:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 23, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
i had a retainer and now me teef are all straight and shit. it was worth it. though i wouldnt want to have to do it again.
/quote]

Pretty much the main reason I'm going to wear it. I figured out my retainer wearing schedule
1) Over night
2) Walking to School
3) Lunch after I'm done eating
4) Walking home
5) When I'm bored
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on September 23, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 23, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 23, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
their blues album wasn't awful. 

:crankey:

Well, I didn't say it was great either.

Oh, and you'll be especially pleased to hear that Steven Tyler is going to be touring with TSO this year.  Except, the fuckers aren't coming to Maine this year!   :argh!:  I really don't want to drive all the way to Manchester to see them. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Suu on September 24, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 23, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
Oh, and you'll be especially pleased to hear that Steven Tyler is going to be touring with TSO this year.  Except, the fuckers aren't coming to Maine this year!   :argh!:  I really don't want to drive all the way to Manchester to see them. 

Western tour or Eastern?

And if it's Eastern, does he think he can REALLY keep up with Chris Caffery?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: Suu on September 24, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 23, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
Oh, and you'll be especially pleased to hear that Steven Tyler is going to be touring with TSO this year.  Except, the fuckers aren't coming to Maine this year!   :argh!:  I really don't want to drive all the way to Manchester to see them. 

Western tour or Eastern?

And if it's Eastern, does he think he can REALLY keep up with Chris Caffery?

He would kick that little punk's ass, even with his lips tied behind his back.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Idem on September 24, 2009, 01:40:35 AM
Music these days ain't that bad with the advent of the internet, really.  There's a few decent new artists, you just have to look pretty hard, and if you don't, you can just listen to stuff from other decades, because chances are if you're young you haven't listened to all of the good stuff that's available.  Save for live concerts (which are, arguably, pretty important), this "generation" gets access to better music and especially variety of music than those of previous decades.  At the moment, anyway, as the ability access to these wonderful archives of the past are probably going to wither away.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 01:54:30 AM
Quote from: Idem on September 24, 2009, 01:40:35 AM
Music these days ain't that bad with the advent of the internet, really.  

There's plenty of good music, these days.

But great music?  Not as common.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Idem on September 24, 2009, 02:26:26 AM
Certainly.  I was mostly arguing for easily accessible archives of old music (which might as well be new to my generation) than the (admittedly slow and usually horrible) influx of new music.  Originality is arguably dead, but great stuff is still available to listen to for audiophiles.  They might lose effect when removed from their original context, but nonetheless. 

In fact, a lot of the great stuff isn't "new" technically, but rather a rearranging of old music.  The mashup scene is fucking HUGE right now.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2009, 02:40:14 AM
Quote from: Idem on September 24, 2009, 02:26:26 AM
Certainly.  I was mostly arguing for easily accessible archives of old music (which might as well be new to my generation) than the (admittedly slow and usually horrible) influx of new music.  Originality is arguably dead, but great stuff is still available to listen to for audiophiles.  They might lose effect when removed from their original context, but nonetheless. 

In fact, a lot of the great stuff isn't "new" technically, but rather a rearranging of old music.  The mashup scene is fucking HUGE right now.

Of course, to be honest, 99.9999% of music back then was absolute shit, too.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on September 24, 2009, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Suu on September 24, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 23, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
Oh, and you'll be especially pleased to hear that Steven Tyler is going to be touring with TSO this year.  Except, the fuckers aren't coming to Maine this year!   :argh!:  I really don't want to drive all the way to Manchester to see them. 

Western tour or Eastern?

And if it's Eastern, does he think he can REALLY keep up with Chris Caffery?

Uhh, that's a good question.  I would assume Eastern.  Roger Daltry is also joining so maybe he's doing the West Coast dates.  Details were sketchy.  Meanwhile, Chri Caffery and Jon Oliva need to get Savatage started up again! 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on September 24, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Quote from: Squid on September 23, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:07:51 AM

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble



yike  :aaa:

We took these things SERIOUSLY, back when Reagan was president.  We had no choice.  It was either that, or join the Calvary Baptist Church and turn republican.  Drugs were our only real option.  Plus, the music was way better than most of what plays today, if you could find the right bands.

:lulz: They were cheaper and better quality too!! 

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 04:21:18 AM

But we had The Dead Kennedies, Henry Rollins before he sucked, The Rolling Stones were still (technically) alive, Aerosmith, Roger Waters first solo stuff (BOO YAH), and Tom Petty's best years.


THIS!!!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysnomia on September 24, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
Excuse me Pariah, and Ima let you finish, but T-Pain had the best braces this year. 

(http://eartodastreetz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/t-pain-deal.jpg)


:lulz:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 25, 2009, 12:26:06 AM
Quote from: Pope Dysnomia on September 24, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
Excuse me Pariah, and Ima let you finish, but T-Pain had the best braces this year. 

(http://eartodastreetz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/t-pain-deal.jpg)


:lulz:
BASTARD!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysnomia on September 25, 2009, 12:43:27 AM
(http://www.thesunblog.com/frosting/033-kanye-west.jpg)
                          \
                 "I'm Kanye West bitch!"
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 25, 2009, 12:59:33 AM
Yo Dysnomia I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish but I do the best "Imma Let you Finish" of ALL TIME
OF ALL TIME
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysnomia on September 25, 2009, 02:08:05 AM
 :x
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 25, 2009, 02:59:41 AM
 :)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dalek on September 25, 2009, 04:07:41 PM
I wore a retainer six years, than I said fuck it and it all went to hell. Now they will make me put another one  :argh!:

Well don't worry, you'll sound like donald duck for a few days at max and then you will return to normal speach. And yeah, you will spit A LOT when you speak. And when you go for a fix( and you have to do that every month, though you probably know it by now) the first days after the fux are fucking painfull!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on September 25, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
I got braces, my teeth are fucking awesome. Wear the retainer.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Pariah on September 25, 2009, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on September 25, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
I got braces, my teeth are fucking awesome. Wear the retainer.
Sounds pretty easy
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 27, 2010, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: Pariah on September 23, 2009, 03:23:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2009, 02:34:59 AM
You'll be glad later.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!
(http://www.maledisciplinespanking.com/images/angry_spoiled_brat_teenage_girl.jpg)


I need to make that my wallpaper.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Triple Zero on October 29, 2010, 09:45:28 AM
Assuming you mean blown up to fit your entire office wall, not just the computer desktop thingy, right?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Triple Zero on October 29, 2010, 10:37:41 AM
Looks a bit like a cross between Pix and TGG, if you ask me :lol:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 26, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
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You'll be glad later.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OLD MAN!!!

Back in my day, my age wouldn't be considered old.  I am not that goshdurn old!  GOSHDURNIT!  CUT THAT FECES OUT, YOU FUDGING WHIPPERSNAPPERS!

What was that Roger?

I'm MY fucking day, we KNEW how to swear, drink, get the clap, rock n roll, and wake up in a crab-infested whorehouse with no clothes, money, or even memory, crusted in our own filth with a needle still in our arm and the electric buzz of acid still running up and down our spines, with hairy ass chlamydia bacillia the size of fucking PANCAKES oozing out of our arses and chewing holes in the linoleum.

You kids?  HAH!  You puke and ya think ya partied.  Shit, we puked BEFORE we partied, just to limber up!  

YOU FUCKERS DO NOT NOW, NOR WILL YOU EVER, UNDERSTAND THE LOST HIGHWAY!

grumble, grumble, fucking kids, grumble



Bump for informative curmudgeony.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 26, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Totally true.

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 29, 2010, 10:37:41 AM
Looks a bit like a cross between Pix and TGG, if you ask me :lol:

except chubbier than either of them
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 27, 2011, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

kind of limiting to one's prospects.  but the fact that other people refer to them that way doesn't have a thing to do with what they call themselves.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 27, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/

in popular music parlance, "indie" has little to nothing to do with whether or not a band has a deal. And most bands that don't have a deal and are seeking one tend to use the word "unsigned" to indicate that.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 27, 2011, 03:02:22 AM
I'm so indie, I shit caramel macchiatos 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2011, 03:06:49 AM
I thought "Indie" meant "Bands that want to be an unsuccessful ripoff of The Pixies and eat Ramen in their GF's parent's garage every day for the rest of their lives".

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Laughin Jude on April 27, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
I have to protest the idea of Tom Petty having any "best years" as that would mean he had any good years to begin with. But apparently I'm fairly lonely in thinking he's always sucked and he makes awful, wimpy music.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2011, 05:28:57 AM
Quote from: Laughin Jude on April 27, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
I have to protest the idea of Tom Petty having any "best years" as that would mean he had any good years to begin with. But apparently I'm fairly lonely in thinking he's always sucked and he makes awful, wimpy music.

You're a swine.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 27, 2011, 07:06:53 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/

in popular music parlance, "indie" has little to nothing to do with whether or not a band has a deal. And most bands that don't have a deal and are seeking one tend to use the word "unsigned" to indicate that.

Eh, I lived with the music industry, indie and otherwise, for almost 20 years. I'm pretty familiar with the parlance, as an ex band wife, ex promoter wife. A lot of it is bullshit, but indie still means independent, as in unsigned and without representation.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 27, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: Laughin Jude on April 27, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
I have to protest the idea of Tom Petty having any "best years" as that would mean he had any good years to begin with. But apparently I'm fairly lonely in thinking he's always sucked and he makes awful, wimpy music.

Tom Petty is the man in my book.  Not sure what you mean by "wimpy" music.  He's had some pretty rocking songs like Runnin Down a Dream, Refugee, Last DJ, and plenty more.

Plus his work with the Travelling Wilburys. 

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2011, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: fell deeds awake, now for wrath, now for RWHN on April 27, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: Laughin Jude on April 27, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
I have to protest the idea of Tom Petty having any "best years" as that would mean he had any good years to begin with. But apparently I'm fairly lonely in thinking he's always sucked and he makes awful, wimpy music.

Tom Petty is the man in my book.  Not sure what you mean by "wimpy" music.  He's had some pretty rocking songs like Runnin Down a Dream, Refugee, Last DJ, and plenty more.

Plus his work with the Travelling Wilburys. 



His later work had more crazy than Angela Jolie, which is usually enough to get me to listen.

Last Dance With Mary Jane, for example.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 27, 2011, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 07:06:53 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/

in popular music parlance, "indie" has little to nothing to do with whether or not a band has a deal. And most bands that don't have a deal and are seeking one tend to use the word "unsigned" to indicate that.

Eh, I lived with the music industry, indie and otherwise, for almost 20 years. I'm pretty familiar with the parlance, as an ex band wife, ex promoter wife. A lot of it is bullshit, but indie still means independent, as in unsigned and without representation.

If you're familiar with the parlance, then you'll have to pardon me if I tell you to drop the Requia impesonation because you KNOW exactly what I'm talking about. When someone on the street uses the phrase "indie music" within earshot of you, the first thing that comes to mind is what? The Decemberists? OK then.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on April 27, 2011, 04:26:30 PM
I use "indie rock" to describe the Frost Heaves, because I have no idea what else to call it.

Because around here, the bar bands have kind of appropriated "Rock" and "Rock and Roll" to mean 70's and 80's era Skynard and Aerosmith, and "Punk" is now the domaine of Hardcore (or Hot Topic, depending), and anything too descriptive is utterly pretentious ("Neo-Post-NYC77-Wavecore").

You've heard our recordings.  What would you call us?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2011, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 27, 2011, 04:26:30 PM
I use "indie rock" to describe the Frost Heaves, because I have no idea what else to call it.

Because around here, the bar bands have kind of appropriated "Rock" and "Rock and Roll" to mean 70's and 80's era Skynard and Aerosmith, and "Punk" is now the domaine of Hardcore (or Hot Topic, depending), and anything too descriptive is utterly pretentious ("Neo-Post-NYC77-Wavecore").

You've heard our recordings.  What would you call us?

Outstanding.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 27, 2011, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 07:06:53 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/

in popular music parlance, "indie" has little to nothing to do with whether or not a band has a deal. And most bands that don't have a deal and are seeking one tend to use the word "unsigned" to indicate that.

Eh, I lived with the music industry, indie and otherwise, for almost 20 years. I'm pretty familiar with the parlance, as an ex band wife, ex promoter wife. A lot of it is bullshit, but indie still means independent, as in unsigned and without representation.

If you're familiar with the parlance, then you'll have to pardon me if I tell you to drop the Requia impesonation because you KNOW exactly what I'm talking about. When someone on the street uses the phrase "indie music" within earshot of you, the first thing that comes to mind is what? The Decemberists? OK then.

Dude, you're trippin'.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 27, 2011, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 07:06:53 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
The idea that there is no more indie music is really silly.  Yes, alternative was co-opted, any counter culture will be if it gets big enough,  But with the internet and file sharing there is more accessible independent music than ever before.   Just like the mainstream most of it is shit, but that doesn't mean there isn';t enough good and even great out there for you to be able to listen to nothing but good indie music whenever you choose to listen to music at all.

Any musical act that purposefully refers to itself as being "indie" is automatically shit.

I don't get this. I mean, a band is either independent or not. How should they purposefully refer to themselves?

Here's my favorite indie act: http://www.endofthewest.com/

in popular music parlance, "indie" has little to nothing to do with whether or not a band has a deal. And most bands that don't have a deal and are seeking one tend to use the word "unsigned" to indicate that.

Eh, I lived with the music industry, indie and otherwise, for almost 20 years. I'm pretty familiar with the parlance, as an ex band wife, ex promoter wife. A lot of it is bullshit, but indie still means independent, as in unsigned and without representation.

If you're familiar with the parlance, then you'll have to pardon me if I tell you to drop the Requia impesonation because you KNOW exactly what I'm talking about. When someone on the street uses the phrase "indie music" within earshot of you, the first thing that comes to mind is what? The Decemberists? OK then.

I don't get a first thing coming to mind, it's not a genre, it's a level of representation.  There's indie music in every genre.  Some genres (filk for instance) are all indie, but any mainstream genre is going to have indie musicians too.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 12:08:43 AM
There's only one Band still around that still sound "Indy". You can argue semantics all day, so I'm afraid it's Carter USM, or GTFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE4KTkN2L44&feature=related
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
Must be a cultural thing. Just about everyone I know associates some specific traits to the term "indie music" and none of those traits have anything to do with whether or not they are signed to a label.

LMNO, I'd just call you guys "rock 'n' fucking roll", and the hell with whatever other posewads have misappropriated the term.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 12:43:33 AM
Y'know, I think I've maybe recognized the cause of the "hipster/indie" disconnect that seems to exist here.

For whatever reason, it seems that a vital part of the hipster/indie subculture is that you must insist that the subculture does not exist.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on April 28, 2011, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
Must be a cultural thing. Just about everyone I know associates some specific traits to the term "indie music" and none of those traits have anything to do with whether or not they are signed to a label.

LMNO, I'd just call you guys "rock 'n' fucking roll", and the hell with whatever other posewads have misappropriated the term.

Agreed.  In my mind, "indie" is what happened when "college rock" started selling records.  Or when DIY1 became HSEDIFY2.


And I think I'll take your suggestion, followed up with "Good Fun in Poor Taste".



1Do It Yourself
2Have Someone Else Do It For You
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 28, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
I always took "indie" to mean independent label, ie not one of the big major labels which nowadays afaik amounts to Sony who, let's face it probably own most of the small independent labels now too. So, yeah, means fuck all but it was typified by manchester accents and twangy rickenbacker guitars for a while, until all those acts signed to majors and became "britpop"

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 28, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene. 

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.   
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Luna on April 28, 2011, 01:20:05 PM
Me, I never cared much what label was slapped on the music, either I like it, or I don't.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene.  

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.  

What

dude, no. I'm sure stupid people use it wrong all the time, but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here, there's a thriving indie scene on Alberta, Mississippi and Killingsworth, people are trying to make it work. It's like the whole SRA thing. I'm sure your average teeny-bopper doesn't know what "independent" means, but most adults are fully aware.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:22:17 PM
 :lulz: Why don't you call Mississippi Studios and ask them what "indie" means.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here,

What?  Why?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:26:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here,

What?  Why?

Because there's a lot of support in terms of studios and venues who prefer to work primarily with unsigned musicians, and a lot of musicians, like Mark Growden and Ghostwriter, who do their own promotion and manage to make a living at it.

It's like the self-representing artist movement... people like me, who don't go through a distributor or promoter to sell our work, but rather sell it directly.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: hooplala on April 28, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
So, it's like wholesale music?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:29:17 PM
I get solicited by reps all the time, but I would have to make huge quantities of identical items according to the demands of whatever accounts they were working with, and while I would have a steady income and my work would be in chichi boutiques and catalogs, I would slowly, grindingly lose my mind and my soul.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 28, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
So, it's like wholesale music?

It's like the difference between buying a painting in a gallery... the gallery is representing the artist and gets a cut... and buying it directly from the artist.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 28, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
So, it's like wholesale music?

It's like the difference between buying a painting in a gallery... the gallery is representing the artist and gets a cut... and buying it directly from the artist.

Probably never get rich, but no 1st contract ass-raping, either.  I can see that.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 05:39:45 PM
The thing here was, whether you were an Independent Label, or signed to Sony, on a 7 Album deal, your fan base was pretty much dependent on the same 2 or 3 distribution companies for getting their grimy hands on your music. (Or they could tape it off the radio, or their mates scratchy vinyl)
Virgin Megastores just about drove all the Independent music shops out of business by taking all the "Independent" labels and chugging their LPs out, at a loss if they had to, just to get the HipCats and the Rare Groovy 'eclectic' set in their shops, buying their Vinyls. Then, overnight, it was less Vinyl, more CDs, and that's when it all started going tits up. If it wasn't for the Uber Hipsterism of the Dance Music Scene, and the pigheaded snobbery of big name DJ's only playing 12" 45rpm vinyls, on Technic's SL1210, (MK II's) then we would all be listening to the sound of our own farts, as our brains liquefied to whatever the fuck Simon Cowell thought we should be listening to.  
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 05:39:45 PM
The thing here was, whether you were an Independent Label, or signed to Sony, on a 7 Album deal, your fan base was pretty much dependent on the same 2 or 3 distribution companies for getting their grimy hands on your music. (Or they could tape it off the radio, or their mates scratchy vinyl)
Virgin Megastores just about drove all the Independent music shops out of business by taking all the "Independent" labels and chugging their LPs out, at a loss if they had to, just to get the HipCats and the Rare Groovy 'eclectic' set in their shops, buying their Vinyls. Then, overnight, it was less Vinyl, more CDs, and that's when it all started going tits up. If it wasn't for the Uber Hipsterism of the Dance Music Scene, and the pigheaded snobbery of big name DJ's only playing 12" 45rpm vinyls, on Technic's SL1210, (MK II's) then we would all be listening to the sound of our own farts, as our brains liquefied to whatever the fuck Simon Cowell thought we should be listening to.  

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on April 28, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
Really?  There has to be some sort of underground scene.  Even if it's post-dubstep-CoyoteCore.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 28, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
Really?  There has to be some sort of underground scene.  Even if it's post-dubstep-CoyoteCore.

Kenny Loggins tribute bands.

I shit you not.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on April 28, 2011, 05:49:29 PM
Well, someone has to take the highway to the danger zone.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap)  
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 28, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
So, it's like wholesale music?

It's like the difference between buying a painting in a gallery... the gallery is representing the artist and gets a cut... and buying it directly from the artist.

Probably never get rich, but no 1st contract ass-raping, either.  I can see that.

Yup, exactly. Most bands who get signed never make a living, let alone get rich. If you can do it by yourself and make enough to get by, that's pretty good.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
Happy Birthday Nigel, the first four decades are the trickiest. It's all nice easy downhill sailing from here on in!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
Happy Birthday Nigel, the first four decades are the trickiest. It's all nice easy downhill sailing from here on in!

Important to note the words "downhill sailing".

Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap)  
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

I have a better system.  I check out what my kids are listening to, as they are both music snobs.

I get Pink & Gaga, and I don't have to waste time listening to Rebecca Black.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!

Other than gaining the metabolism of an Iguana, you should first expect joint problems.  Also, keep a sharp eye on your organs.  They're plotting against you.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!

Other than gaining the metabolism of an Iguana, you should first expect joint problems.  Also, keep a sharp eye on your organs.  They're plotting against you.
And don't forget the almost imperceptible onset of crumblewits, that can be a bit um,  . . .(*forgotten the word for disconcerting*) weird.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:43:03 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!

Other than gaining the metabolism of an Iguana, you should first expect joint problems.  Also, keep a sharp eye on your organs.  They're plotting against you.
And don't forget the almost imperceptible onset of crumblewits, that can be a bit um,  . . .(*forgotten the word for disconcerting*) weird.

You can avoid that by smashing your brains with pills.

I mean, it still happens, you just don't care.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:43:03 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!

Other than gaining the metabolism of an Iguana, you should first expect joint problems.  Also, keep a sharp eye on your organs.  They're plotting against you.
And don't forget the almost imperceptible onset of crumblewits, that can be a bit um,  . . .(*forgotten the word for disconcerting*) weird.

You can avoid that by smashing your brains with pills.

I mean, it still happens, you just don't care.
"Care" went out the window years ago, with my tinfoil hat.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap)  
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift.  
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap) 
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift. 
Yeah, I know what you mean. Like when the Two Tone Ska revival happened over here. Suddenly, there were Skinheads and black kids starting up Ska bands, going to the same partys, it was fucking magic. We still had the racist National Front wankers too though, but the skins who weren't racist all grew their hair an inch or two, and called themselves "suede-heads" to differentiate themselves from the thugs. Turned out in force for the Two Tone Label's "Rock against Racism" tours. Out of all that came "Stiff" Records, the original "Indy" label. Ian Dury, Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, "If it ain't STIFF, it ain't worth a Fuck". Really, in terms of social impact, that shit was bigger than Punk was.

The last hugely influential Music movement here was when the Clubs all went "Dance", with your Superstar DJ's, and it's been trying (With varying levels of success) to burst back out of the Clubs and back into the free party scene ever since. The Government licensed all the big Summer Festivals to try and keep it in control, and making money for the MAN, and it seems to have worked. You have to look a lot harder to find any decent free Partys these days.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
Thanks! I'm looking forward to the impending horrible physical deterioration!

Other than gaining the metabolism of an Iguana, you should first expect joint problems.  Also, keep a sharp eye on your organs.  They're plotting against you.

I have the metabolism thing nailed... I solve it with a system I call "barely eating".

My joints are already lashing out. My knee problem I solved by losing weight, but my right elbow HATES me. My heart has been trying to kill me since day one, but now my lungs have joined league and laugh at me with malicious glee every time I get drunk enough to think that just one cigarette won't hurt anything.

My stomach spent most of last month trying to come out of my ass, and I never figured out why.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene. 

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.   

What

dude, no. I'm sure stupid people use it wrong all the time, but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here, there's a thriving indie scene on Alberta, Mississippi and Killingsworth, people are trying to make it work. It's like the whole SRA thing. I'm sure your average teeny-bopper doesn't know what "independent" means, but most adults are fully aware.

Yeah, but in the rest of the world, if you say "indie music" nobody is gonna think of some cluster of venues and studios in North Portland, they're gonna think of shit like Foster the People and The Decemberists.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
My stomach spent most of last month trying to come out of my ass, and I never figured out why.

It wanted a look.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap) 
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift. 

What? No way, dude. This, RIGHT NOW, is the absolute GOLDEN AGE of Metal. And not just for the weird technical progressive death metal shit that I like, I'm talking every genre, every style. Metal is exploding right now in a way it never has before. One thing that might be obscuring this fact is that ALOT of the good stuff coming out now is not coming out of the US, but if you go digging through the crates in Aus, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Brazil, Italy, etc. there's so much good stuff that it's mind-boggling. I love to share new music so if you want some tracks of some bands, gimme a PM with some general description of what you're into and I'll try to throw some stuff your way that you might really dig.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 05:39:45 PM
The thing here was, whether you were an Independent Label, or signed to Sony, on a 7 Album deal, your fan base was pretty much dependent on the same 2 or 3 distribution companies for getting their grimy hands on your music. (Or they could tape it off the radio, or their mates scratchy vinyl)
Virgin Megastores just about drove all the Independent music shops out of business by taking all the "Independent" labels and chugging their LPs out, at a loss if they had to, just to get the HipCats and the Rare Groovy 'eclectic' set in their shops, buying their Vinyls. Then, overnight, it was less Vinyl, more CDs, and that's when it all started going tits up. If it wasn't for the Uber Hipsterism of the Dance Music Scene, and the pigheaded snobbery of big name DJ's only playing 12" 45rpm vinyls, on Technic's SL1210, (MK II's) then we would all be listening to the sound of our own farts, as our brains liquefied to whatever the fuck Simon Cowell thought we should be listening to.  

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.

My friend in Tucson keeps getting excited when I play bands from Tucson on my radio show, there must be a few.  The one that I remember is Machine's of Loving Grace, which admittedly hasn't been doing anything in a while, but there were a couple of others as well (I am a bad DJ since I don't remember which ones those were though, I'll have to ask her)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 28, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap) 
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift. 

What? No way, dude. This, RIGHT NOW, is the absolute GOLDEN AGE of Metal. And not just for the weird technical progressive death metal shit that I like, I'm talking every genre, every style. Metal is exploding right now in a way it never has before. One thing that might be obscuring this fact is that ALOT of the good stuff coming out now is not coming out of the US, but if you go digging through the crates in Aus, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Brazil, Italy, etc. there's so much good stuff that it's mind-boggling. I love to share new music so if you want some tracks of some bands, gimme a PM with some general description of what you're into and I'll try to throw some stuff your way that you might really dig.

I dunno, I think it is over saturated with metalcore bands now.  The late 80s/early 90s are the Golden Era for me.  The rise of death metal, grindcore, doom metal, death/doom, the birth of the tech-death stuff.  It was coming from all directions.  Don't get me wrong, there is some good stuff coming out today, but it just doesn't feel as earth-shattering and new as it did back in the day.  But that's probably just my youthful nostalgia talking. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene. 

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.   

What

dude, no. I'm sure stupid people use it wrong all the time, but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here, there's a thriving indie scene on Alberta, Mississippi and Killingsworth, people are trying to make it work. It's like the whole SRA thing. I'm sure your average teeny-bopper doesn't know what "independent" means, but most adults are fully aware.

Yeah, but in the rest of the world, if you say "indie music" nobody is gonna think of some cluster of venues and studios in North Portland, they're gonna think of shit like Foster the People and The Decemberists.

If they live in a town with a decent musical culture they'll think of the local indie musicians.  If they don't and have decent webskills they'll think of whatever stuff they downloaded that there's no way would be getting played on the radio or sold in a store anywhere near them.

Mind you there's still idiots who will just think of the decemberists, but there's idiots who think Metal just means Disturbed too.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene. 

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.   

What

dude, no. I'm sure stupid people use it wrong all the time, but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here, there's a thriving indie scene on Alberta, Mississippi and Killingsworth, people are trying to make it work. It's like the whole SRA thing. I'm sure your average teeny-bopper doesn't know what "independent" means, but most adults are fully aware.

Yeah, but in the rest of the world, if you say "indie music" nobody is gonna think of some cluster of venues and studios in North Portland, they're gonna think of shit like Foster the People and The Decemberists.

:? But they're not proper indie. I mean, they're signed to a small label (I hate it when small labels call themselves independent... bunch of stupid fucks) but they're not self-produced.

I admit to never having been to "the rest of the world", but they sound like idiots.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2011, 09:36:12 PM

I admit to never having been to "the rest of the world", but they sound like idiots.

Well, yeah. That's pretty much their whole schtick.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap)  
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift.  

What? No way, dude. This, RIGHT NOW, is the absolute GOLDEN AGE of Metal. And not just for the weird technical progressive death metal shit that I like, I'm talking every genre, every style. Metal is exploding right now in a way it never has before. One thing that might be obscuring this fact is that ALOT of the good stuff coming out now is not coming out of the US, but if you go digging through the crates in Aus, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Brazil, Italy, etc. there's so much good stuff that it's mind-boggling. I love to share new music so if you want some tracks of some bands, gimme a PM with some general description of what you're into and I'll try to throw some stuff your way that you might really dig.

I dunno, I think it is over saturated with metalcore bands now.  The late 80s/early 90s are the Golden Era for me.  The rise of death metal, grindcore, doom metal, death/doom, the birth of the tech-death stuff.  It was coming from all directions.  Don't get me wrong, there is some good stuff coming out today, but it just doesn't feel as earth-shattering and new as it did back in the day.  But that's probably just my youthful nostalgia talking.  

See, I totally agree about the crappy metalcore bands if we're talking about the American metal scene. I'm gonna dig through my CDs and hard drives, I know I've got some stuff you'd like.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Slyph on April 28, 2011, 10:28:41 PM
I want to ask a question bout downhill sailing

Is it a mixed metaphor if you can picture it and you wnat to fucking do it because the image is tha d damn fun?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 28, 2011, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Laughin Jude on April 27, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
I have to protest the idea of Tom Petty having any "best years" as that would mean he had any good years to begin with. But apparently I'm fairly lonely in thinking he's always sucked and he makes awful, wimpy music.

:argh!:

I am rethinking my tolerance of you.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 28, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2011, 05:45:12 PM

The one cultural thing that Tucson lacks is a music scene.  We get to listen to whatever prepackaged crap the record labels fling together, and that's about it.

If it wasn't for mp3s, I'd have gone up a water tower years ago.  I am NOT going to put up with Beiber, Swift, and the general sound-alike crap on the top 40 stations.
No-one should have to put up with that shit. I've found that most people my age, are listening to the same old shit they were listening to when they were 20, (With the general attitude of "Everything after '92 is shite anyway") Or they are frantically trying to keep up with whatever their kids are listening to, like the oldest Party Animals in town. All because they lack either the imagination, or the webskilz (Or both)  to go and find new stuff that they do like, from Artists that aren't dead, or like 75rys old. It's not difficult, with the internet and everything, to find solid, quality music that you do like, from Artists you've never heard of before to listen to, alongside some of the lulzy old shit you listened to when you were 20. Being a growed up adult of 40+, means you don't have to mindlessly follow what everyone else says is cool or not. Fuck it, I had a Gary Glitter hour at full volume yesterday morning, you could hear it from 200 yards away, that's how much of a fuck people my age should give!

Coooooome on come on, come on come on come on, co-ome on ! (Clap clap)  
(Doesn't mean I wanna be in his Gang though)

Personally, I'd put it at everything after 1994 with a few caveats here and there.  But for me, the last great time in music when there was a lot of fresh and new and relevant releases coming out was in that 1988-1992.  I think that was the last great era for lots of genres.  Hip-hop, metal, rock, etc.  Obviously, there are still good bands here and there, but I'm talking about mass movements.  Eras in music where the whole landscape seemed to shift.  

What? No way, dude. This, RIGHT NOW, is the absolute GOLDEN AGE of Metal. And not just for the weird technical progressive death metal shit that I like, I'm talking every genre, every style. Metal is exploding right now in a way it never has before. One thing that might be obscuring this fact is that ALOT of the good stuff coming out now is not coming out of the US, but if you go digging through the crates in Aus, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Brazil, Italy, etc. there's so much good stuff that it's mind-boggling. I love to share new music so if you want some tracks of some bands, gimme a PM with some general description of what you're into and I'll try to throw some stuff your way that you might really dig.

I dunno, I think it is over saturated with metalcore bands now.  The late 80s/early 90s are the Golden Era for me.  The rise of death metal, grindcore, doom metal, death/doom, the birth of the tech-death stuff.  It was coming from all directions.  Don't get me wrong, there is some good stuff coming out today, but it just doesn't feel as earth-shattering and new as it did back in the day.  But that's probably just my youthful nostalgia talking.  
Yeah, without detracting from the quality of the music, a lot of it is down to youthful nostalgia. My 'Golden Age' was late 70's -  early 90's. Anarcho-Crusty Punk, with a good measure of early Goth-Punk, (Bauhaus, Southern Death Cult, Banshees, This Mortal Coil/Cocteau Twins) Proper Metal too, like Sabbath (with Ozzy) Motorhead, Priest, Dumpys Rusty Nuts, early Maiden, Mid to late Zep, leading into better prog, Yes, Rush, (until Signals) and peaking with Marillion's first two or maybe three Albums. With Hawkwind being a constant presence, all through. (But that's probably because they've been pretty much touring for 40 years non stop)

I think that just as there is an optimum window for learning to read, (6-11 yrs, ish) there's also a ten year period from about 16yrs old, when Music has it's most intense effect on you. I mean, look at people who are 60-70, yrs old now, and listen to them raving on about Bill fucking fatass Haley, or Bobby Warin! I mean, really! And people who did WWII, with Vera Lynn, or that grizzling French Witch, Edith Piaf! Hard to see that they were the Madonnas of their day. Or that George Formby was the Kurt Cobain of the mid '4os. (Although I do 'get' Glen Miller being the Wartime 'Chemical Brothers'. "In the Mood" still stands up today as a dance track)
Going to stop here, or my secret liking for Val Doonican will reveal itself. *Shit!*  
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 28, 2011, 10:34:49 PM
Glen Miller is the fucking man, man. I don't know why you had to lump him in with all that old-people music.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 28, 2011, 10:56:42 PM
Quote from: Slyph on April 28, 2011, 10:28:41 PM
I want to ask a question bout downhill sailing

Is it a mixed metaphor if you can picture it and you wnat to fucking do it because the image is tha d damn fun?
You'll have to wait until you reach that "Downhill Sailing" part of your life to truly understand, Grasshopper. Just think, when you're in your youth, they say "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger".
And that's all very well, as far as meaningless cliches go, but now, it's more like "What doesn't kill me had better be able to run, very fucking fast!" (Cuz now I'm rolling like Thunder. With a proper good head of wind behind it!)
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 29, 2011, 12:05:07 AM
Thank god he was wrong about that. There's only so much of Axl Rose's voice I could take over a lifetime.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
yeah I'm not that keen on Hendrix either.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 29, 2011, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on April 28, 2011, 10:34:49 PM
Glen Miller is the fucking man, man. I don't know why you had to lump him in with all that old-people music.

And one day, he will crawl back out of the channel and wreak a bloody vengeance.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 29, 2011, 01:08:44 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

Yep.

ELO.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 29, 2011, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 29, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
yeah I'm not that keen on Hendrix either.

Hendrix is, er, was the man.  That's what rock is missing these days.  A guy like Hendrix who was ridiculously talented, but who seemingly was able to tap that talent in a very effortless way.  He oozed rock and roll. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 
I was listening to the sound of nearby Pigs, getting unloaded from a Train, to a slaughterhouse stockyard. (Or rather, trying not to listen to them, but horribly aware of them nonetheless)
Brings a whole different meaning to the expression "Makin' Bacon".
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2011, 01:50:30 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 

What's funny is that I do.  :lulz: You can listen to the Hendrix, I'll fuck to crickets and frogs.
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 29, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 
I was listening to the sound of nearby Pigs, getting unloaded from a Train, to a slaughterhouse stockyard. (Or rather, trying not to listen to them, but horribly aware of them nonetheless)
Brings a whole different meaning to the expression "Makin' Bacon".

Well then for you I would recommend one of A Klokwerk Kaos' albums.  I think it's pretty much the same thing. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 29, 2011, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 
I was listening to the sound of nearby Pigs, getting unloaded from a Train, to a slaughterhouse stockyard. (Or rather, trying not to listen to them, but horribly aware of them nonetheless)
Brings a whole different meaning to the expression "Makin' Bacon".

Well then for you I would recommend one of A Klokwerk Kaos' albums.  I think it's pretty much the same thing. 

:spittake:
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I think it was Chris Rock that said "Whatever you were listening to about the first time you got laid is what you'll be listening to for the rest of your life"

I don't have any recordings of crickets and frogs so that is difficult for me. 
I was listening to the sound of nearby Pigs, getting unloaded from a Train, to a slaughterhouse stockyard. (Or rather, trying not to listen to them, but horribly aware of them nonetheless)
Brings a whole different meaning to the expression "Makin' Bacon".

Well then for you I would recommend one of A Klokwerk Kaos' albums.  I think it's pretty much the same thing. 
I've heard some of his tuneless cacophonic wibble existentialist post baroque uber-hipsterite stuff.  (After his "tricky" third Album) But to my coarse and un-sophisticated ear,  there always seemed to be something missing.
Like any kind of tune, or discernable beat structure. Very creative use of the whole concept of "Music"  really. Reminiscent of  the tortured peristaltic process of some sick ruminant beast trying to void it's bowels through Ableton Live 5.
But at least I know why I was starting to feel curiously aroused by it now.
Alison **&%$ in the sidings, behind Bowyers Pork Pie factory. (Twice) She wanted me to do her up the wrong 'un, but I didn't fancy it. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: AFK on April 29, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
You've seen the YouTube videos of him performing right?  If not, YOU MUST. 
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: LMNO on April 29, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
Oh, holy fuck.  There's video?
Title: Re: #teenageproblems
Post by: BadBeast on April 29, 2011, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on April 29, 2011, 02:43:57 PM
You've seen the YouTube videos of him performing right?  If not, YOU MUST.  
I just sat through Blood Parasites, Misanthrope, and some of the Truth about Demons.  He must know he's utter shite, right?
And the notes say "performance" but I see no audience. Why is this, I wonder? Is it because he's so shite?
Or so Hipster?  :x :x :x :x I want to kill him. srsly.