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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Dildo Argentino on January 05, 2014, 10:03:39 AM

Title: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 05, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
Part 1 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2013/10/why-procrastinators-procrastinate.html), Part 2 (http://waitbutwhy.com/2013/11/how-to-beat-procrastination.html)

They are quite long, but interesting. As a person with a procrastination (acrasia, as discussed in philosophy) problem, I think that these articles are great as far as they go, that the author seems to have invented something quite close to Cognitive Behaviour Therapy and NLP, and that there's important ground he leaves untouched. I'd be very interested to hear other people's opinion about this. I will be on my best behaviour, I promise. Yes, I lied. I thought I could stay away, but I couldn't. I apologize.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Reginald Ret on January 05, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
Interesting.
Thanks.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: LMNO on January 05, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
I'll click on those links tomorrow.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 05, 2014, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 05, 2014, 03:29:01 PM
I'll click on those links tomorrow.

:golfclap:
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2014, 06:57:02 PM
Hey, put me down for one abusive post that then tells me what a fine fellow I am.

(Not interested in the links, let's just cut to the end.)
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Procrastination is one of those problems for people who don't have real problems.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Procrastination is one of those problems for people who don't have real problems.

Truth.

People who are on fire, for example, never procrastinate.  Nope.  They are Johnny on the fucking Spot.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 05, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Procrastination is one of those problems for people who don't have real problems.

Truth.

People who are on fire, for example, never procrastinate.  Nope.  They are Johnny on the fucking Spot.

Procrastination is for people with wiggle room. I procrastinate because I CAN. If I catch myself procrastinating, it's a fine reminder of just how good I have it.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Like today. I've been doing all kinds of fiddly shit, like putting hooks in the bathroom and sorting through things to send to Goodwill, instead of reviewing last term's concepts and preparing for school to start tomorrow. In an hour or so I'll go to Fubonn and buy basic ingredients for Korean cooking.

Because I can. Procrastination is a pure fucking luxury. You know who doesn't procrastinate? Mexican day laborers. You will never see one of those guys sleeping in and surfing the internet instead of getting up at 4 am so he can be on Burnside at 5 ready to jump in some asshole's truck and be treated like crap and paid crap to do heavy labor nobody else wants to do.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 05, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Like today. I've been doing all kinds of fiddly shit, like putting hooks in the bathroom and sorting through things to send to Goodwill, instead of reviewing last term's concepts and preparing for school to start tomorrow. In an hour or so I'll go to Fubonn and buy basic ingredients for Korean cooking.

Because I can. Procrastination is a pure fucking luxury. You know who doesn't procrastinate? Mexican day laborers. You will never see one of those guys sleeping in and surfing the internet instead of getting up at 4 am so he can be on Burnside at 5 ready to jump in some asshole's truck and be treated like crap and paid crap to do heavy labor nobody else wants to do.

Did I ever tell you how much I love you?
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 09:29:03 PM
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 05, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Like today. I've been doing all kinds of fiddly shit, like putting hooks in the bathroom and sorting through things to send to Goodwill, instead of reviewing last term's concepts and preparing for school to start tomorrow. In an hour or so I'll go to Fubonn and buy basic ingredients for Korean cooking.

Because I can. Procrastination is a pure fucking luxury. You know who doesn't procrastinate? Mexican day laborers. You will never see one of those guys sleeping in and surfing the internet instead of getting up at 4 am so he can be on Burnside at 5 ready to jump in some asshole's truck and be treated like crap and paid crap to do heavy labor nobody else wants to do.

Did I ever tell you how much I love you?

:thanks:
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Those guys are the hardest-working motherfuckers in America. And their reward? To be paid shit and treated like common criminals.  It makes the Statue of Liberty cry.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 05, 2014, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Procrastination is one of those problems for people who don't have real problems.

Actually, I think it is quite possible to have both. It is true that there is a certain class of urgent problems that manage to persuade even the most ardent procrastinators to put procrastination itself on the back burner, so to speak... but once the catastrophic events are averted, it is quite possible to go back to procrastination. Which is itself a real problem.

We could also call it the failure to learn self-control, or ignorance of the art of delayed gratification.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 05, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Like today. I've been doing all kinds of fiddly shit, like putting hooks in the bathroom and sorting through things to send to Goodwill, instead of reviewing last term's concepts and preparing for school to start tomorrow. In an hour or so I'll go to Fubonn and buy basic ingredients for Korean cooking.

Because I can. Procrastination is a pure fucking luxury. You know who doesn't procrastinate? Mexican day laborers. You will never see one of those guys sleeping in and surfing the internet instead of getting up at 4 am so he can be on Burnside at 5 ready to jump in some asshole's truck and be treated like crap and paid crap to do heavy labor nobody else wants to do.

I know the kind of labourer you mean, and I agree they are too busy to procrastinate. But I think the luxury angle is not all there is to it, as I've seen even people in pretty dire circumstances procrastinate endlessly and thereby making their own lives even worse. In fact, I've been that guy. What I think these very practical and objective and adult-sounding articles leave out is the question of the difference between procrastinators and those people who don't do that sort of thing.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 05, 2014, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Those guys are the hardest-working motherfuckers in America. And their reward? To be paid shit and treated like common criminals.  It makes the Statue of Liberty cry.

To be fair they're getting the same treatment the Irish got when they arrived.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2014, 11:57:31 PM
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 05, 2014, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 05, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Those guys are the hardest-working motherfuckers in America. And their reward? To be paid shit and treated like common criminals.  It makes the Statue of Liberty cry.

To be fair they're getting the same treatment the Irish got when they arrived.

True enough, true enough.
Title: Re: How to Beat Procrastination
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2014, 12:16:47 AM
Yeah, no argument there.  Day laborers have it so shitty they can't allow themselves to fall down.