Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM

Title: KMIYK
Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
So.  I just finished reading everything I've ever posted to this board.  To celibrate, I have forgotten how to spell, and I made a post before this one, as I've nearly completely lost it.

I've finally figured it all out.  Every little bit of it.  And I've figured out what I do that you people don't like.  And I think I may have figured out why you don't like it.  And I'm sorry.  I really am.

Fluff you can stand.  Crazy you can stand.  Insane babbling, you can stand.

Mild psychotic breaks?  Not really.

Other things that really don't need to be said.

For those of you with sapience to understand what's really going on, I don't need to say anything.  And for those of you without, you'd never get it.  I'm not even sure I get it, because I can't fully articulate it.  However, I can't fully articulate lots of things which are true.  So there it stands.

And let's talk about wisdom.  Wisdom is the commemoration of the temporary.  Wisdom is being able to look around as say, "This is a beautiful day."  Wisdom is not fearing change.

Things change.  If you think, "That's always the problem," well, I'm very sorry for you.

Looking back through all those posts was a great deal of fun, and it was quite funny.  And by funny, I mean it hurt.  Alot.  Things have changed, you see.  I've known you (most of you) for less than a year.  And most of you, down to a few exceptions, I have spent maybe less than a full day's worth of time interacting with.

Some might say this is too short a time to decide on anything of importance, let alone complex interpersonal judgements.  However, that's not the point.  Change is the point.

Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.  I've enjoyed my hubris for quite some time, but I'm not that powerful.  If I was, I'd have gotten rid of the fundies by sheer force of will.

Compositus Confusio, Dream of the Endless...  It's funny.  Truely funny.  Not amusing, not ironic, not any of those other concepts.  It's funny.

People often wonder what makes humans special.  What is that thing that helps to define our indefinable 'humanity?'  What do we do that other animals don't?  Our complex social interactions?  Go stare at an anthill or a beehive.  Art?  Go critique a bower-bird.  Verbal Language?  Sorry, I think several others have prior art on that patent.

I'll tell you what makes humans special.  We're the animal that laughs at itself.  We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain.  That's what makes a joke funny.  Someone gets hurt.  Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself.  And we laugh at it.  Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it.  About the pain.

Death is one of the most painful topics for the majority of humanity to discuss.  And we make so many jokes about it.

I don't laugh much anymore.  But these past 16 hours or so I've had to laugh, alot.  I've had to laugh because I'm not ready at the moment to accept all of this.  Eric, CC, Dream, Caster Braids (yes, that was me)...  There is so much I don't remember.  And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Change.  Discordia is a religion of Chaos, and chaos is change.  We talk of Order and Chaos, Dichotomy, Creation and Destruction, Mindfucks, Jaking.  But next to none of us truely want change.  How many people whine about 'The Way Things Used to Be?'  I look on these forums (being no great master of life, though I hazard to say, I have a deeper understanding that most of the people within) and see so many people who are just giving lipservice.  People who think mindfucks are just about screwing with people.  People who are all for Chaos, completely rejecting order, never thinking about the matter.  Or people who got a little beyond that, and have rejected destruction, 'embracing an all creative trip.'

There is no such thing as a one-sided coin.  The Belief requires the Believer, just as the Believer requires the Belief.  You cannot have Chaos without Order.  You cannot have Creation without Destruction.

Change.  It's a constant, and yet it's not.  Dream, Eric, CC, Grey, PakProtector, vktsman, Eristvs, vK.   Change.

I don't feel this is a personal failing of mine.  But I am sad.  I can't laugh at it any more.  I'd set the record straight, but it doesn't matter.  Believe what you will -- it makes no difference -- as everything is true.   And everything is a lie.  There is nothing certain except uncertainty.

I'm fairly sure by now I've annoyed those of you who have managed to read this far by repeating myself so many times.  I'm sorry.  Telling people the truth is never the problem, you see.  It's getting them to listen that's the hard part.  Because, like most humans, we remember that which concerns us, and forget, instantly, that which we do not care to know.

I have this feeling that the wheel's going to keep on turning.  I really don't mind the hate.  Hate implies some sense of closeness on the part of the Hater to the Object of the Hatred.  Of course, it's easy to mistake hatred and dislike.  To be able to hate something you have to be able to see yourself in it.  It in you.  You have to be able to understand it.

For all the talk of viewing the world through different grids, of shaking of the 'greyfaced' mental baggage, so many of you are unable to do so.  You give lipservice to the ideals -- maybe enact some of them -- but you refuse to let your core change.  You hold to the same ingrained beliefs and expectations that you claim to be rejecting.

Also, many of you seem to misunderstand things on purpose, but that's neither here nore there.  We all interperet the truth to fit the facts (or the facts that we wish to find.)  Atleast, most of us do.

Things are going to keep on changing.  I'm not more an instrument of change than any of you.  The wheel will never cease to turn because, deep down, we need it to turn.  Hate me for good reasons.  Or simply hate me because you can hate.  But for those of you who choose the latter, I hope you don't go out and kill just because you can kill, too.  For those of you who choose the latter, I'm sorry.  Sorry for you.

But let's end this on a happy note.  After all, none of it really matters.  People here used to like me.  Hell, even Horab liked me at one point, when I first came here.  When I was silly.  When I sugar coated everything with easily graspable humor.  When I was funny.  When I conveyed the message with humor.  When I made the truth funny.  Think on that.  And reflect on the true reason you hate me, for those of you who do.

But I said, "But let's end this on a happy note."  After all, nothing lasts forever.  Fruit Flies, Books, Poems, People, Empires, Stars, the Universe.  This too, shall pass.  So buck up.  Either I'll die, or this Eric will die, or the hatred within you will die.  Or anything else.

It might get better.  It could possibly get worse.  But the one thing that is for sure is:  It won't be the same.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 10:02:27 AM
Nota Bene Prime:  Address all hate mail to cevkiv@gmail.com.

Nota Bene Secunde:  There will be no list of grievances.  Only assholes write on doors.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Malaul on May 19, 2005, 10:06:50 AM
:shock:
::stops writing on the door::
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: Madness of Malaul:shock:
::stops writing on the door::

No, see, I said doors.  You can right on a door.  You can write on multiple single doors.  But only assholes write on doors.  For further clarification, please watch the RHPS.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 19, 2005, 01:50:37 PM
ok one last time, but this time attackign yoru ideas, instead of jsut you personally.:

you're fuckin stupid.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 19, 2005, 03:19:48 PM
just FYI, I don't (and never have) hate you, I just get irritated when you derail threads with nonsense.

not the clever, insightful kind of nonsense (which I feel you are capable of), but the inane nonsense.

so if you really mean what you just said, if you can manage to keep the inanity where it's appropriate (I know, it's heresy to tell a discordian to observe propriety...shoot me), you'll probably find a lot fewer people telling you to STFU.

8)
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2005, 03:21:59 PM
Ditto.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 19, 2005, 09:18:05 PM
Actually, this is the first post of yours I have read all the way through in a while.  You didn't seem as insane or as annoying.  And you didn't delete it, which is what I was wondering about.  The last time I saw you post something this honest, you deleted it in about 10 minutes.  I hope this moment of sanity is not just an illusion.  I hope you are actually feeling better about yourself and the rest of the world.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Zurtok Khan on May 19, 2005, 10:28:56 PM
Interesting enough.

I ignore you for the most part, because you don't post in Or Kill Me, or 1kbwc's very often.  Otherwise, I might hate you.  But, probably not, seeing as I am a good Jesus, and still love my greatest enemy LMNO.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Slarti on May 20, 2005, 12:07:23 AM
wow, felt like you were talking directly to me when you wrote that.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Sepia on May 20, 2005, 12:13:16 AM
I still don't know what the fuck.

So, here's a classic:

"You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.

There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.

Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be televised.

There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
The revolution will not be televised.

The revolution will not be right back after a message
bbout a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
You will not have to worry about a dove in your
bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
The revolution will not go better with Coke.
The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat.

The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live."
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 20, 2005, 12:28:08 AM
This is a whole bunch of shit I'm not going to read, particularly because I don't really dislike you or get annoyed by you at all, so I don't really care.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Slarti on May 20, 2005, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellThis is a whole bunch of shit I'm not going to read, particularly because I don't really dislike you or get annoyed by you at all, so I don't really care.

i don't understand why people bother to make posts like this.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 20, 2005, 01:20:19 AM
Yeah, who fucking cares? It's a message board.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Slarti on May 20, 2005, 01:38:20 AM
err i obviously do.. that's why i posted that. nevermind anyway.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 20, 2005, 02:06:50 AM
Quote from: Great Teacher LargoSo.  I just finished reading everything I've ever posted to this board.  To celibrate, I have forgotten how to spell, and I made a post before this one, as I've nearly completely lost it.
no, you've already said your'e anal about yoru spelling and grammar. thsi hasn't changed a hair.
I've finally figured it all out.  Every little bit of it.  And I've figured out what I do that you people don't like.  And I think I may have figured out why you don't like it.  And I'm sorry.  I really am.
no you haven't. and no you aren't
Fluff you can stand.  Crazy you can stand.  Insane babbling, you can stand.

Mild psychotic breaks?  Not really.
you're emulation fo what you've seen on tv doesnt' prove anything to me. you're not psychotic, you're simpyl obsessed, stupid and delusional, delusional in that you are compulsively lying to yourself
Other things that really don't need to be said.
why don't you say it? c'mon say it.
For those of you with sapience to understand what's really going on, I don't need to say anything.  And for those of you without, you'd never get it.  I'm not even sure I get it, because I can't fully articulate it.  However, I can't fully articulate lots of things which are true.  So there it stands.
you dont' get it at all, if you were hones twith yourself, you'd knwo that, but again, you compulsively lie to yourself
And let's talk about wisdom.  Wisdom is the commemoration of the temporary.  Wisdom is being able to look around as say, "This is a beautiful day."  Wisdom is not fearing change.
again, you don't know what wisdom is, you fear truth, and for that, you'll never knwo wisdom
Things change.  If you think, "That's always the problem," well, I'm very sorry for you.
feel soprry onyl for yourself
Looking back through all those posts was a great deal of fun, and it was quite funny.  And by funny, I mean it hurt.  Alot.  Things have changed, you see.  I've known you (most of you) for less than a year.  And most of you, down to a few exceptions, I have spent maybe less than a full day's worth of time interacting with.
youv'e spent alot fo days interactign with yoruself here tho haven't you?
Some might say this is too short a time to decide on anything of importance, let alone complex interpersonal judgements.  However, that's not the point.  Change is the point.
you keep talkign about change, adn yet you've time and time again refused to go away and accept the change of not being here
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.  I've enjoyed my hubris for quite some time, but I'm not that powerful.  If I was, I'd have gotten rid of the fundies by sheer force of will.
no. none of them nto postign here has a damn thign to do with you, despite yoru desperate wishes for it to be as such.
Compositus Confusio, Dream of the Endless...  It's funny.  Truely funny.  Not amusing, not ironic, not any of those other concepts.  It's funny.
no it isn't, not funny, it was all very stupid, manipualtive and decietful.

People often wonder what makes humans special.  What is that thing that helps to define our indefinable 'humanity?'  What do we do that other animals don't?  Our complex social interactions?  Go stare at an anthill or a beehive.  Art?  Go critique a bower-bird.  Verbal Language?  Sorry, I think several others have prior art on that patent.

I'll tell you what makes humans special.  We're the animal that laughs at itself.  We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain.  That's what makes a joke funny.  Someone gets hurt.  Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself.  And we laugh at it.  Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it.  About the pain.
again, stupid. adn still lying to yourself.

Death is one of the most painful topics for the majority of humanity to discuss.  And we make so many jokes about it.
ever ehar that oen about the jew the nigger and the nun and teh funeral? me niether.

I don't laugh much anymore.  But these past 16 hours or so I've had to laugh, alot.  I've had to laugh because I'm not ready at the moment to accept all of this.  Eric, CC, Dream, Caster Braids (yes, that was me)...  There is so much I don't remember.  And I wouldn't have it any other way.
wow, you really ahve been obessed with this forum. again, lyign to yourself.
Change.  Discordia is a religion of Chaos, and chaos is change.  We talk of Order and Chaos, Dichotomy, Creation and Destruction, Mindfucks, Jaking.  But next to none of us truely want change.  How many people whine about 'The Way Things Used to Be?'  I look on these forums (being no great master of life, though I hazard to say, I have a deeper understanding that most of the people within) and see so many people who are just giving lipservice.  People who think mindfucks are just about screwing with people.  People who are all for Chaos, completely rejecting order, never thinking about the matter.  Or people who got a little beyond that, and have rejected destruction, 'embracing an all creative trip.'
again and again, you show you've read the words, but you can't even get paraphrasing right. you prove with this paragraph once again that you don't understand a damn thign about our little religion here. and you lie to yourself whiel your'e at it. lie to yourself by saying "mindfucks arent' jsu tbaotu screwign with people" because htat's what youre doing everytime you post here, and lying to yourself because you refuse to admit that's what you do.
There is no such thing as a one-sided coin.  The Belief requires the Believer, just as the Believer requires the Belief.  You cannot have Chaos without Order.  You cannot have Creation without Destruction.
mreo complete lack of understanding of the base metaphysics of our little religion here
Change.  It's a constant, and yet it's not.  Dream, Eric, CC, Grey, PakProtector, vktsman, Eristvs, vK.   Change.

I don't feel this is a personal failing of mine.  But I am sad.  I can't laugh at it any more.  I'd set the record straight, but it doesn't matter.  Believe what you will -- it makes no difference -- as everything is true.   And everything is a lie.  There is nothing certain except uncertainty.
yes it is a failign fo yours, in not stayign away. in not being honest with yoruself, in ripping me off in the last sentace, because you can't do more than paraphrase what other's have said. and again because you won't admit even to yoruself that that is waht you do.
I'm fairly sure by now I've annoyed those of you who have managed to read this far by repeating myself so many times.  I'm sorry.  Telling people the truth is never the problem, you see.  It's getting them to listen that's the hard part.  Because, like most humans, we remember that which concerns us, and forget, instantly, that which we do not care to know.
a good way to get peopel to listen, is nto to talk complete bullshit out of yoru ass 99% of the time. you keep runnign from the truth, but when your  family is no longer willign to support you, when the state is no longer willignto be yo're custdoian, and you're otu there in the cold codl night, screaming, you'll knwo who put you there, adn it won't eb eris, ro the gods, or anyone else, excep tfo r you. just you, and no one else
I have this feeling that the wheel's going to keep on turning.  I really don't mind the hate.  Hate implies some sense of closeness on the part of the Hater to the Object of the Hatred.  Of course, it's easy to mistake hatred and dislike.  To be able to hate something you have to be able to see yourself in it.  It in you.  You have to be able to understand it.
what i hate abotu you is what i hate abotu m y mother's brother. who liek you cannot stop lying to himself or the peopel around, who cannto stop manipulating and depending on others to keep him sustained.
For all the talk of viewing the world through different grids, of shaking of the 'greyfaced' mental baggage, so many of you are unable to do so.  You give lipservice to the ideals -- maybe enact some of them -- but you refuse to let your core change.  You hold to the same ingrained beliefs and expectations that you claim to be rejecting.
you don't have a damned thign to say abotu any of us and our religion. oru ideals. if by changing our core belifs, expectations, you mean we should all take to moochign of our families instead of supporting ourselves and our families the best way we can figure out, then you're right, we are total failures comapred to you, your grand high holiness abvoe all of us who is amncipated from the labours of this tired life.
Also, many of you seem to misunderstand things on purpose, but that's neither here nore there.  We all interperet the truth to fit the facts (or the facts that we wish to find.)  Atleast, most of us do.
especially you.
Things are going to keep on changing.  I'm not more an instrument of change than any of you.  The wheel will never cease to turn because, deep down, we need it to turn.  Hate me for good reasons.  Or simply hate me because you can hate.  But for those of you who choose the latter, I hope you don't go out and kill just because you can kill, too.  For those of you who choose the latter, I'm sorry.  Sorry for you.
wtf?
But let's end this on a happy note.  After all, none of it really matters.  People here used to like me.  Hell, even Horab liked me at one point, when I first came here.  When I was silly.  When I sugar coated everything with easily graspable humor.  When I was funny.  When I conveyed the message with humor.  When I made the truth funny.  Think on that.  And reflect on the true reason you hate me, for those of you who do.
i had mild indifference towards you until i realized why medeo and hotsuma hated you, and realized it made an awful lto fo sense. those two kids are wiser than msot ppl give them credit for. i'm a freindly person. people liek you take advantage of my freindly nature.
But I said, "But let's end this on a happy note."  After all, nothing lasts forever.  Fruit Flies, Books, Poems, People, Empires, Stars, the Universe.  This too, shall pass.  So buck up.  Either I'll die, or this Eric will die, or the hatred within you will die.  Or anything else.
i jsu twan t yo uto go away
It might get better.  It could possibly get worse.  But the one thing that is for sure is:  It won't be the same.
same or not, it'll be fucking great when you're nto ehre, liek it generally tends to be when you aren't.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 20, 2005, 03:22:00 AM
After reading over this topic, I've decided on an appropriate response.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JN0Z.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

(Note the flashing of the Discordian salute)
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellAfter reading over this topic, I've decided on an appropriate response.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JN0Z.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)



I'd hit it.  Two times.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Sepia on May 20, 2005, 02:32:57 PM
I'd hit her. ANGER LEACVE MY BODY AND FACILITATE THIS EMPTY VESSEL!
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2005, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellAfter reading over this topic, I've decided on an appropriate response.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JN0Z.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)



I'd hit it.  Two times.

Only two times?
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 03:02:05 PM
Ok, better make it five times.


Or maybe 23 times.

Would hitting it 42 times be excessive?
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2005, 03:31:27 PM
Not at all. Excuse me for a few minutes...
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 03:34:34 PM
(www.bangedup.com has a fairly decent selection of Lohan "slips", if you catch my drift...   :wink: )
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Post by: Cain on May 20, 2005, 03:37:36 PM
I must look, for research purposes then.  8)
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 03:42:43 PM
[pun]
I fear, my friend, that this thread has been jacked.
[/pun]
Title: KMIYK
Post by: agent compassion on May 20, 2005, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO[pun]
I fear, my friend, that this thread has been jacked off.
[/pun]

Quote from: Strong BadI can hit it. I will hit it nine times!
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 20, 2005, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO[pun]
I fear, my friend, that this thread has been jacked.
[/pun]

Well, that was my intention.

I would hit it 111 times.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 07:59:03 PM
I would hit it precicely 333 times, then explode into the arms of Choronzon Himself
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2005, 03:01:07 AM
Quote from: tomorrow's requiem
Quote from: Great Teacher LargoSo.  I just finished reading everything I've ever posted to this board.  To celibrate, I have forgotten how to spell, and I made a post before this one, as I've nearly completely lost it.
no, you've already said your'e anal about yoru spelling and grammar. thsi hasn't changed a hair.

Actually, I didn't even use a dictionary to make sure I was spelling 'celibrate' correctly.  I will not venture to guess as to why you were unable to notice a mis-spelling.

I've finally figured it all out.  Every little bit of it.  And I've figured out what I do that you people don't like.  And I think I may have figured out why you don't like it.  And I'm sorry.  I really am.
no you haven't. and no you aren't

Are you me?  How do you know what I do and do not know, and how I do or do not feel?

Fluff you can stand.  Crazy you can stand.  Insane babbling, you can stand.

Mild psychotic breaks?  Not really.
you're emulation fo what you've seen on tv doesnt' prove anything to me. you're not psychotic, you're simpyl obsessed, stupid and delusional, delusional in that you are compulsively lying to yourself

I have been diagnosed by a mental health professional as Manic-Depressive Bipolar II with Psychotic Features.

Other things that really don't need to be said.
why don't you say it? c'mon say it.

Because those things would be said out of anger, not out of a desire for truth, and as such they do not need to be said.  No action should ever be taken out of anger when one has time to reflect upon the situation before acting.

For those of you with sapience to understand what's really going on, I don't need to say anything.  And for those of you without, you'd never get it.  I'm not even sure I get it, because I can't fully articulate it.  However, I can't fully articulate lots of things which are true.  So there it stands.
you dont' get it at all, if you were hones twith yourself, you'd knwo that, but again, you compulsively lie to yourself

Pot calling Kettle.  Pot calling Kettle.  You are black.  Over.

And let's talk about wisdom.  Wisdom is the commemoration of the temporary.  Wisdom is being able to look around as say, "This is a beautiful day."  Wisdom is not fearing change.
again, you don't know what wisdom is, you fear truth, and for that, you'll never knwo wisdom

You are entitled to your opinion.

Things change.  If you think, "That's always the problem," well, I'm very sorry for you.
feel soprry onyl for yourself

Are you paying attention, or just picking individual sentances and small sentance groups and analysing them out of context of the whole?

Looking back through all those posts was a great deal of fun, and it was quite funny.  And by funny, I mean it hurt.  Alot.  Things have changed, you see.  I've known you (most of you) for less than a year.  And most of you, down to a few exceptions, I have spent maybe less than a full day's worth of time interacting with.
youv'e spent alot fo days interactign with yoruself here tho haven't you?

If you are incapable of understanding just how stupid that idea was, I'm truely sorry.

Some might say this is too short a time to decide on anything of importance, let alone complex interpersonal judgements.  However, that's not the point.  Change is the point.
you keep talkign about change, adn yet you've time and time again refused to go away and accept the change of not being here

Oh, I can and do accept the change of not being here, every time I go away.  I've been away for long periods at a time.  When I feel like leaving, for one reason or another, I do so.  You simply seem to not be able to accept the change of me returning.

Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.  I've enjoyed my hubris for quite some time, but I'm not that powerful.  If I was, I'd have gotten rid of the fundies by sheer force of will.
no. none of them nto postign here has a damn thign to do with you, despite yoru desperate wishes for it to be as such.

Please, exercise the brain I hope to the Gods you have.  I'm trying to compound an idea here, and it is apparently going right over your head.

Compositus Confusio, Dream of the Endless...  It's funny.  Truely funny.  Not amusing, not ironic, not any of those other concepts.  It's funny.
no it isn't, not funny, it was all very stupid, manipualtive and decietful.

Pot calling Kettle.  Pot calling Kettle.  You are Black.  Over.

People often wonder what makes humans special.  What is that thing that helps to define our indefinable 'humanity?'  What do we do that other animals don't?  Our complex social interactions?  Go stare at an anthill or a beehive.  Art?  Go critique a bower-bird.  Verbal Language?  Sorry, I think several others have prior art on that patent.

I'll tell you what makes humans special.  We're the animal that laughs at itself.  We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain.  That's what makes a joke funny.  Someone gets hurt.  Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself.  And we laugh at it.  Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it.  About the pain.
again, stupid. adn still lying to yourself.

Calling things stupid that you are simply incapable of processing, or if not incapable of processing, incapable of refuting, is in and of itself stupid.  Nota Bene.

Death is one of the most painful topics for the majority of humanity to discuss.  And we make so many jokes about it.
ever ehar that oen about the jew the nigger and the nun and teh funeral? me niether.

If there is something wrong in my arguements, point it out.

I don't laugh much anymore.  But these past 16 hours or so I've had to laugh, alot.  I've had to laugh because I'm not ready at the moment to accept all of this.  Eric, CC, Dream, Caster Braids (yes, that was me)...  There is so much I don't remember.  And I wouldn't have it any other way.
wow, you really ahve been obessed with this forum. again, lyign to yourself.

Ad Hominem attacks don't impress me.  Try again.

Change.  Discordia is a religion of Chaos, and chaos is change.  We talk of Order and Chaos, Dichotomy, Creation and Destruction, Mindfucks, Jaking.  But next to none of us truely want change.  How many people whine about 'The Way Things Used to Be?'  I look on these forums (being no great master of life, though I hazard to say, I have a deeper understanding that most of the people within) and see so many people who are just giving lipservice.  People who think mindfucks are just about screwing with people.  People who are all for Chaos, completely rejecting order, never thinking about the matter.  Or people who got a little beyond that, and have rejected destruction, 'embracing an all creative trip.'
again and again, you show you've read the words, but you can't even get paraphrasing right. you prove with this paragraph once again that you don't understand a damn thign about our little religion here. and you lie to yourself whiel your'e at it. lie to yourself by saying "mindfucks arent' jsu tbaotu screwign with people" because htat's what youre doing everytime you post here, and lying to yourself because you refuse to admit that's what you do.

I would put if forward that you are the person who does not understand my arguement, and therefore are drawing a false conclusion about my knowledge of a similar, but not identical, idea/concept.

There is no such thing as a one-sided coin.  The Belief requires the Believer, just as the Believer requires the Belief.  You cannot have Chaos without Order.  You cannot have Creation without Destruction.
mreo complete lack of understanding of the base metaphysics of our little religion here

I'm sorry that you cannot understand this.  Or that you do not want to understand it because you do not like the source.

Change.  It's a constant, and yet it's not.  Dream, Eric, CC, Grey, PakProtector, vktsman, Eristvs, vK.   Change.

I don't feel this is a personal failing of mine.  But I am sad.  I can't laugh at it any more.  I'd set the record straight, but it doesn't matter.  Believe what you will -- it makes no difference -- as everything is true.   And everything is a lie.  There is nothing certain except uncertainty.
yes it is a failign fo yours, in not stayign away. in not being honest with yoruself, in ripping me off in the last sentace, because you can't do more than paraphrase what other's have said. and again because you won't admit even to yoruself that that is waht you do.

How did I rip you off in what sentance?  'Change?'  I ripped you off with a one word fragment?  Be specific when refuting and accusing.

I'm fairly sure by now I've annoyed those of you who have managed to read this far by repeating myself so many times.  I'm sorry.  Telling people the truth is never the problem, you see.  It's getting them to listen that's the hard part.  Because, like most humans, we remember that which concerns us, and forget, instantly, that which we do not care to know.
a good way to get peopel to listen, is nto to talk complete bullshit out of yoru ass 99% of the time. you keep runnign from the truth, but when your  family is no longer willign to support you, when the state is no longer willignto be yo're custdoian, and you're otu there in the cold codl night, screaming, you'll knwo who put you there, adn it won't eb eris, ro the gods, or anyone else, excep tfo r you. just you, and no one else

You who berate me for not understanding Discordianism, you yourself lack understanding.  Also, Pot calling Kettle.  Pot calling Kettle.  You are Black.  Over.

I have this feeling that the wheel's going to keep on turning.  I really don't mind the hate.  Hate implies some sense of closeness on the part of the Hater to the Object of the Hatred.  Of course, it's easy to mistake hatred and dislike.  To be able to hate something you have to be able to see yourself in it.  It in you.  You have to be able to understand it.
what i hate abotu you is what i hate abotu m y mother's brother. who liek you cannot stop lying to himself or the peopel around, who cannto stop manipulating and depending on others to keep him sustained.

Your arguement from ignorance is rather sad.  Please, you know nothing about the particulars of my life.  You talk to me about speaking out of my ass?  You're drawing conclusions based on talking out of your own.  Pot calling Kettle.  Pot calling Kettle.  You are Black.  Over.

For all the talk of viewing the world through different grids, of shaking of the 'greyfaced' mental baggage, so many of you are unable to do so.  You give lipservice to the ideals -- maybe enact some of them -- but you refuse to let your core change.  You hold to the same ingrained beliefs and expectations that you claim to be rejecting.
you don't have a damned thign to say abotu any of us and our religion. oru ideals. if by changing our core belifs, expectations, you mean we should all take to moochign of our families instead of supporting ourselves and our families the best way we can figure out, then you're right, we are total failures comapred to you, your grand high holiness abvoe all of us who is amncipated from the labours of this tired life.

Once again, you know nothing of my particulars.  I could tell you exactly how many job interviews I've had since I've been unemployed, and the fact that I have been turned down jobs at more than one place due to the fact that I am about to enroll in school, and that those very people I am 'mooching' off of still have a large degree of control over my life and that I have had to turn down job offers because they do not want me to work full time while I goto school, or that they do not want me to take certain other dangerous occupations.  However, my personal life is none of your business, and your ad hominem attacks are stupid.  Pot calling Kettle.  Pot calling Kettle.  You are Black.  Over.

Also, many of you seem to misunderstand things on purpose, but that's neither here nore there.  We all interperet the truth to fit the facts (or the facts that we wish to find.)  Atleast, most of us do.
especially you.

Specifics.  Point out the flaws in my arguement.  With evidence.  Proof.  I demand the proof to support your refutation of my arguements.  If you have none, I cannot take you seriously in this matter.

Things are going to keep on changing.  I'm not more an instrument of change than any of you.  The wheel will never cease to turn because, deep down, we need it to turn.  Hate me for good reasons.  Or simply hate me because you can hate.  But for those of you who choose the latter, I hope you don't go out and kill just because you can kill, too.  For those of you who choose the latter, I'm sorry.  Sorry for you.
wtf?

Ah, so you never really understood it after all.

But let's end this on a happy note.  After all, none of it really matters.  People here used to like me.  Hell, even Horab liked me at one point, when I first came here.  When I was silly.  When I sugar coated everything with easily graspable humor.  When I was funny.  When I conveyed the message with humor.  When I made the truth funny.  Think on that.  And reflect on the true reason you hate me, for those of you who do.
i had mild indifference towards you until i realized why medeo and hotsuma hated you, and realized it made an awful lto fo sense. those two kids are wiser than msot ppl give them credit for. i'm a freindly person. people liek you take advantage of my freindly nature.

I would not describe you as a friendly person, due to personal experience off this board.  But since I cannot back my claims up due to my having destroyed the evidence because it was making my website look bad, I'm not going to push this subject again.

But I said, "But let's end this on a happy note."  After all, nothing lasts forever.  Fruit Flies, Books, Poems, People, Empires, Stars, the Universe.  This too, shall pass.  So buck up.  Either I'll die, or this Eric will die, or the hatred within you will die.  Or anything else.
i jsu twan t yo uto go away

In life, we don't always get everything we want.  We deal with it.  When we don't we act like children.  And you're starting to remind me somewhat of my father.

It might get better.  It could possibly get worse.  But the one thing that is for sure is:  It won't be the same.
same or not, it'll be fucking great when you're nto ehre, liek it generally tends to be when you aren't.

That was fun.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 03:01:48 AM
Bah.

Also:  It's supposed to be KMIYC, not KMIYK... oops.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 03:16:28 AM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyActually, this is the first post of yours I have read all the way through in a while.  You didn't seem as insane or as annoying.  And you didn't delete it, which is what I was wondering about.  The last time I saw you post something this honest, you deleted it in about 10 minutes.  I hope this moment of sanity is not just an illusion.  I hope you are actually feeling better about yourself and the rest of the world.

Thank you for saying I seem more sane and less annoying.  That is a style of writing I generally reserve for serious things.  About that post I deleted:  I deleted it not because I didn't want to read it.  Wait, that's not true.  I did want to delete it.  It may have been honest, but it wasn't honest because I wrote the post with the intent of honesty.  I wrote that post out of anger, though I have trouble remembering exactly why I was angry, which only suggest further that the anger was pointless.  But I did delete the post because I was ashamed of it, because I wrote it out of anger not with the intent of illumination,

The moment of sanity is not an illusion.  I'm actually quite sane.  I just seem to wonder, and I'm not trying to be rude in any way, about the need for sanity on a Discordian forum.

As to feeling better about myself, I've felt very good about myself for a very long time now.  I have felt good about the rest of the world for a similiar ammount of time.  I attribute it to combining Discordianism with Buddhism and some reasearch into the Parmenides' (Not sure on that spelling) philosophy, combined with my own interest in liminality.  If I didn't feel as well about myself, and if I wasn't such a well adjusted person, despite what some people claim of me, I would have done some very, very destructive things when my website was defaced.  To tell the truth, I almost did them anyway, such was the extent I let my anger take me over.  However, I did not.  However, I view this as a personal failure, not that I did not do them, but that I was going to do them to begin with, out of anger.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 03:18:45 AM
Quote from: T'ai Kungjust FYI, I don't (and never have) hate you, I just get irritated when you derail threads with nonsense.

not the clever, insightful kind of nonsense (which I feel you are capable of), but the inane nonsense.

so if you really mean what you just said, if you can manage to keep the inanity where it's appropriate (I know, it's heresy to tell a discordian to observe propriety...shoot me), you'll probably find a lot fewer people telling you to STFU.

8)

Thank you.  That does mean something to me.  However, the reason I find it so funny that people complain when I do such a think is similar to the reason you expounded about observing propriety.  Also, I find it funny because it seems to be acceptable for many others to derail threads.  I'm still trying to tease meaning out of the derailings to find exactly how theirs differ from mine to make theirs acceptable, or atleast not annoying enough to incite people to bloodthirstyness.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 03:20:30 AM
Quote from: Zurtok KhanInteresting enough.

I ignore you for the most part, because you don't post in Or Kill Me, or 1kbwc's very often.  Otherwise, I might hate you.  But, probably not, seeing as I am a good Jesus, and still love my greatest enemy LMNO.

I used to post in 'Or Kill Me,' however, this pissed people off, too, and the posts in 'Or Kill Me' tended to be long and required thought.

I'm glad you don't hate me.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 03:21:18 AM
Quote from: Slartibartfastwow, felt like you were talking directly to me when you wrote that.

It's good to find one who understands.  Also, are you still into coding?  I have a C project I can send you if you want to see something moderatly interesting.
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Post by: Cain on May 21, 2005, 06:17:01 AM
I have to say GLT this was an interesting and enjoying post.  I didnt say anything, as I guessed it was aimed that those who knew you before you came back, but I liked it.  I may not have agreed with it, but I found it better than the absolute fluff that seemed to annoy everyone else.  Not that I'm advocating seriousness.  But it just seemed more...I dont really know.  But definetly a good read.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 06:27:44 AM
Quote from: ScribeI have to say GLT this was an interesting and enjoying post.  I didnt say anything, as I guessed it was aimed that those who knew you before you came back, but I liked it.  I may not have agreed with it, but I found it better than the absolute fluff that seemed to annoy everyone else.  Not that I'm advocating seriousness.  But it just seemed more...I dont really know.  But definetly a good read.

This was addressed to everyone, and I'm responding to those who found it worthwhile to reply.  I'm glad you're not advocating seriousness.  I have personally found that bit at the very beginning of the Principia Discordia, the Greater POOP interview bit on how to take things, very illuminating in recent days.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.  I probably should have spent more time writing it, to clear it up and clarify some of the concepts I was trying to get across.  I really don't enjoy writing like that, though.  I really don't like argueing, either:  Not bickering.  I don't enjoy that, but I actively dislike having to get my mind into the strict, logical form required to pick apart someone's arguement logically and compose a good counterarguement.

I particularly dislike it when it's easy to tear apart someone's arguement so easily.  I prefer to argue with people whom I know I will lose to, like my uncle, Christian.
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Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 21, 2005, 06:48:43 AM
Guys, don't make me post nude pictures if Lindsay Lohan.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 06:58:40 AM
Didn't people complain about me posting fluff in serious threads?

Er, could you find some of Utada Hikaru?  Lohan's a bit too... toothpick-like and caucasian.
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on May 21, 2005, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo
Quote from: Zurtok KhanInteresting enough.

I ignore you for the most part, because you don't post in Or Kill Me, or 1kbwc's very often.  Otherwise, I might hate you.  But, probably not, seeing as I am a good Jesus, and still love my greatest enemy LMNO.

I'm glad you don't hate me.

That should be, "I'm glad you don't hate me, YET."

I'll get to it, just give it time.  I hate everyone eventually.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: Zurtok Khan
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo
Quote from: Zurtok KhanInteresting enough.

I ignore you for the most part, because you don't post in Or Kill Me, or 1kbwc's very often.  Otherwise, I might hate you.  But, probably not, seeing as I am a good Jesus, and still love my greatest enemy LMNO.

I'm glad you don't hate me.

That should be, "I'm glad you don't hate me, YET."

I'll get to it, just give it time.  I hate everyone eventually.

Don't want anyone to feel out, or do you find it just makes it easier to deal with people by not having to remember who we have to be polite to today?

And in all likelyhood, I could die before you began to hate me.
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on May 21, 2005, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo
Quote from: Zurtok Khan
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo
Quote from: Zurtok KhanInteresting enough.

I ignore you for the most part, because you don't post in Or Kill Me, or 1kbwc's very often.  Otherwise, I might hate you.  But, probably not, seeing as I am a good Jesus, and still love my greatest enemy LMNO.

I'm glad you don't hate me.

That should be, "I'm glad you don't hate me, YET."

I'll get to it, just give it time.  I hate everyone eventually.

Don't want anyone to feel out, or do you find it just makes it easier to deal with people by not having to remember who we have to be polite to today?

And in all likelyhood, I could die before you began to hate me.

Pfft, I'm a bastard, I don't care if anyone feels left out.  And, I'm polite to who I care to be, whether or not I hate them.  I just haven't decided if you're worth the energy to hate, of course, if you keep going on like this I will decide I DO hate you, and then the fun begins.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2005, 04:47:03 PM
this thread makes me sad.

the next time i want people's sympathy's, i'm definitely doing this.


everyone can suck my dick.
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Post by: Slarti on May 21, 2005, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo
Quote from: Slartibartfastwow, felt like you were talking directly to me when you wrote that.

It's good to find one who understands.  Also, are you still into coding?  I have a C project I can send you if you want to see something moderatly interesting.

yeah i am, in bits and pieces.. working more with some C++ now but sure send away- my aim is still jabberw0cky42 or my email is denverthelastdinosaur AT gmail.com
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Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 21, 2005, 06:19:28 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher LargoDidn't people complain about me posting fluff in serious threads?

Other people, yes. Not me. The more fluff, the better.

(http://www.tk604.com/mwg/Dcp01476.jpg)
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Post by: Arcane Synonym on May 21, 2005, 08:56:36 PM
Quote
I'll tell you what makes humans special. We're the animal that laughs at itself. We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain. That's what makes a joke funny. Someone gets hurt. Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself. And we laugh at it. Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it. About the pain.

Laughter is a lie. What makes Man special is the ability to live outside of reality. No animal but Man can Lie.
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Post by: Cain on May 21, 2005, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: Arcane Synonym
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I'll tell you what makes humans special. We're the animal that laughs at itself. We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain. That's what makes a joke funny. Someone gets hurt. Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself. And we laugh at it. Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it. About the pain.

Laughter is a lie. What makes Man special is the ability to live outside of reality. No animal but Man can Lie.

Actually chimps can definetly lie, and I believe some other primates can too, although I have to check.
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Scribe
Quote from: Arcane Synonym
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I'll tell you what makes humans special. We're the animal that laughs at itself. We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain. That's what makes a joke funny. Someone gets hurt. Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself. And we laugh at it. Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it. About the pain.

Laughter is a lie. What makes Man special is the ability to live outside of reality. No animal but Man can Lie.

Actually chimps can definetly lie, and I believe some other primates can too, although I have to check.

Quite true.  The Great Apes can all do lies/deciet.  Also, they seem to have a concept of stealing, too.  Can't remember which book I read the reference in, and I can't look it up at the moment as the book is about 600 miles away.  Story goes something like this:

Baby Ape sitting next to young female Ape which is not its mother.  Female Ape finds a tasty tuber.  Baby Ape begins to scream and cry.  Its Mother comes over, takes the  tuber from the Female and gives it to the Baby.

Also, read some of the work done with Chimps.  They have clear understandings of back-stabbing and subterfuge.
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Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 21, 2005, 10:52:12 PM
Quote from: Arcane Synonym
Quote
I'll tell you what makes humans special. We're the animal that laughs at itself. We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain. That's what makes a joke funny. Someone gets hurt. Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself. And we laugh at it. Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it. About the pain.

Laughter is a lie. What makes Man special is the ability to live outside of reality. No animal but Man can Lie.

Define "laughter"
Define "reality"
Define "outside"
Define "No"
Define "Animal"
Define "Man"
Define "Lie"

The "OMG I'M A REAL DISCORDIAN AND YOU'RE NOT AND I'M SO SMART AND WISE AND INSIGHTFUL AND ENLIGHTENED AND YOU'RE ALL FOOLISH HEATHENS" bit has been done to death, mate.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 21, 2005, 10:56:41 PM
now now...

play nice with the n00b. either he'll prove to be an amusing and insightful fellow who's just trying to feel us out and see what kind of discordians WE are (the incredibly snarky, snobby, clicque-ish kind)....

or...

he will turn out to be one of those Orthodox Discordians and we'll give him time to REALLY say something we can all pounce on.

8)
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Post by: Drunken Monkey Cabal on May 21, 2005, 11:03:56 PM
question

how much percent do chimps use of there brains?

how big are there brains?

because ya never know they might evolve to the point they do in planet of the apes
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Post by: Great Teacher Largo on May 21, 2005, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: DiLquestion

how much percent do chimps use of there brains?

how big are there brains?

because ya never know they might evolve to the point they do in planet of the apes

I believe the average chimp brain is about 280cc.

Compare an contrast with the average Neanderthalensis brain, at around 1500cc, and the average Homo Sapiens brain, at around 1300cc.
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Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on May 21, 2005, 11:46:37 PM
Quote from: T'ai Kungnow now...

play nice with the n00b. either he'll prove to be an amusing and insightful fellow who's just trying to feel us out and see what kind of discordians WE are (the incredibly snarky, snobby, clicque-ish kind)....

or...

he will turn out to be one of those Orthodox Discordians and we'll give him time to REALLY say something we can all pounce on.

8)

Sounds fair.
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Post by: Arcane Synonym on May 22, 2005, 01:54:29 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell
Quote from: Arcane Synonym
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I'll tell you what makes humans special. We're the animal that laughs at itself. We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain. That's what makes a joke funny. Someone gets hurt. Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself. And we laugh at it. Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it. About the pain.

Laughter is a lie. What makes Man special is the ability to live outside of reality. No animal but Man can Lie.

Define "laughter"
Define "reality"
Define "outside"
Define "No"
Define "Animal"
Define "Man"
Define "Lie"

The "OMG I'M A REAL DISCORDIAN AND YOU'RE NOT AND I'M SO SMART AND WISE AND INSIGHTFUL AND ENLIGHTENED AND YOU'RE ALL FOOLISH HEATHENS" bit has been done to death, mate.


Why do you do what has been done to death then?

No, I know, you also are too busy choking on your own shit to smell the roses. Nobody Hears the crawling train Before it plows them over. I am not that train.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Slarti on May 22, 2005, 03:08:34 AM
damnit too bad i dropped modship or else i could see which one of you guys he is.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 22, 2005, 03:55:49 AM
Cats can lie.  Dogs, not too sure, they show their true emotions all over the place.  

We have to have just one person feed the cats at my house.  The cats will tell me they haven't had anything to eat, in cat speak obviously, not English.  They will also try to get each other in trouble.

Dogs just look guilty as hell when they do anything wrong, and let's face it, mostly we lie when we do something wrong.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Arcane Synonym on May 22, 2005, 04:05:56 AM
How do cats lie? Do they whisper false pleasantries to ease your sufferances? Do they declare the moon green and Grass orange?
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Bella on May 22, 2005, 04:09:33 AM
Quote from: Arcane SynonymHow do cats lie? Do they whisper false pleasantries to ease your sufferances? Do they declare the moon green and Grass orange?
Yes
Title: KMIYK
Post by: agent compassion on May 22, 2005, 05:03:46 AM
I don't know if parakeets can lie but they definitely converse. I've heard Moody bitch Xander out before, and they both will have animated conversations in the early morning with the birds in the trees outside. And there's this one chirp they'll do when they want my attention, and it really does sound like a "HEY! YOU!"

They'll also talk back to the radio if it sounds birdlike to them - there's this one song I like to play really loud, and it's got this weird synth trill in it that repeats in the background. The birds keep trying to talk to it.

One parakeet I had when I was a teenager learned to wolf-whistle even.

8)
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2005, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Great Teacher LargoSo.  I just finished reading everything I've ever posted to this board.  To celibrate, I have forgotten how to spell, and I made a post before this one, as I've nearly completely lost it.

I've finally figured it all out.  Every little bit of it.  And I've figured out what I do that you people don't like.  And I think I may have figured out why you don't like it.  And I'm sorry.  I really am.

Fluff you can stand.  Crazy you can stand.  Insane babbling, you can stand.

Mild psychotic breaks?  Not really.

Other things that really don't need to be said.

For those of you with sapience to understand what's really going on, I don't need to say anything.  And for those of you without, you'd never get it.  I'm not even sure I get it, because I can't fully articulate it.  However, I can't fully articulate lots of things which are true.  So there it stands.

And let's talk about wisdom.  Wisdom is the commemoration of the temporary.  Wisdom is being able to look around as say, "This is a beautiful day."  Wisdom is not fearing change.

Things change.  If you think, "That's always the problem," well, I'm very sorry for you.

Looking back through all those posts was a great deal of fun, and it was quite funny.  And by funny, I mean it hurt.  Alot.  Things have changed, you see.  I've known you (most of you) for less than a year.  And most of you, down to a few exceptions, I have spent maybe less than a full day's worth of time interacting with.

Some might say this is too short a time to decide on anything of importance, let alone complex interpersonal judgements.  However, that's not the point.  Change is the point.

Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.  I've enjoyed my hubris for quite some time, but I'm not that powerful.  If I was, I'd have gotten rid of the fundies by sheer force of will.

Compositus Confusio, Dream of the Endless...  It's funny.  Truely funny.  Not amusing, not ironic, not any of those other concepts.  It's funny.

People often wonder what makes humans special.  What is that thing that helps to define our indefinable 'humanity?'  What do we do that other animals don't?  Our complex social interactions?  Go stare at an anthill or a beehive.  Art?  Go critique a bower-bird.  Verbal Language?  Sorry, I think several others have prior art on that patent.

I'll tell you what makes humans special.  We're the animal that laughs at itself.  We have to laugh at ourselves, because very few of us a prepared to deal with the pain.  That's what makes a joke funny.  Someone gets hurt.  Someone has their feelings hurt, or are subjected to bodily harm, or makes a fool of themself.  And we laugh at it.  Most of us have to laugh at it, because if we don't laugh at it, if we don't shrug it off with a guffaw, we'll have to think about it.  About the pain.

Death is one of the most painful topics for the majority of humanity to discuss.  And we make so many jokes about it.

I don't laugh much anymore.  But these past 16 hours or so I've had to laugh, alot.  I've had to laugh because I'm not ready at the moment to accept all of this.  Eric, CC, Dream, Caster Braids (yes, that was me)...  There is so much I don't remember.  And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Change.  Discordia is a religion of Chaos, and chaos is change.  We talk of Order and Chaos, Dichotomy, Creation and Destruction, Mindfucks, Jaking.  But next to none of us truely want change.  How many people whine about 'The Way Things Used to Be?'  I look on these forums (being no great master of life, though I hazard to say, I have a deeper understanding that most of the people within) and see so many people who are just giving lipservice.  People who think mindfucks are just about screwing with people.  People who are all for Chaos, completely rejecting order, never thinking about the matter.  Or people who got a little beyond that, and have rejected destruction, 'embracing an all creative trip.'

There is no such thing as a one-sided coin.  The Belief requires the Believer, just as the Believer requires the Belief.  You cannot have Chaos without Order.  You cannot have Creation without Destruction.

Change.  It's a constant, and yet it's not.  Dream, Eric, CC, Grey, PakProtector, vktsman, Eristvs, vK.   Change.

I don't feel this is a personal failing of mine.  But I am sad.  I can't laugh at it any more.  I'd set the record straight, but it doesn't matter.  Believe what you will -- it makes no difference -- as everything is true.   And everything is a lie.  There is nothing certain except uncertainty.

I'm fairly sure by now I've annoyed those of you who have managed to read this far by repeating myself so many times.  I'm sorry.  Telling people the truth is never the problem, you see.  It's getting them to listen that's the hard part.  Because, like most humans, we remember that which concerns us, and forget, instantly, that which we do not care to know.

I have this feeling that the wheel's going to keep on turning.  I really don't mind the hate.  Hate implies some sense of closeness on the part of the Hater to the Object of the Hatred.  Of course, it's easy to mistake hatred and dislike.  To be able to hate something you have to be able to see yourself in it.  It in you.  You have to be able to understand it.

For all the talk of viewing the world through different grids, of shaking of the 'greyfaced' mental baggage, so many of you are unable to do so.  You give lipservice to the ideals -- maybe enact some of them -- but you refuse to let your core change.  You hold to the same ingrained beliefs and expectations that you claim to be rejecting.

Also, many of you seem to misunderstand things on purpose, but that's neither here nore there.  We all interperet the truth to fit the facts (or the facts that we wish to find.)  Atleast, most of us do.

Things are going to keep on changing.  I'm not more an instrument of change than any of you.  The wheel will never cease to turn because, deep down, we need it to turn.  Hate me for good reasons.  Or simply hate me because you can hate.  But for those of you who choose the latter, I hope you don't go out and kill just because you can kill, too.  For those of you who choose the latter, I'm sorry.  Sorry for you.

But let's end this on a happy note.  After all, none of it really matters.  People here used to like me.  Hell, even Horab liked me at one point, when I first came here.  When I was silly.  When I sugar coated everything with easily graspable humor.  When I was funny.  When I conveyed the message with humor.  When I made the truth funny.  Think on that.  And reflect on the true reason you hate me, for those of you who do.

But I said, "But let's end this on a happy note."  After all, nothing lasts forever.  Fruit Flies, Books, Poems, People, Empires, Stars, the Universe.  This too, shall pass.  So buck up.  Either I'll die, or this Eric will die, or the hatred within you will die.  Or anything else.

It might get better.  It could possibly get worse.  But the one thing that is for sure is:  It won't be the same.

Interesting.

A valid post to say the least.

I quoted it in full, in case you decide to delete your original.

Just remember that it doesn't exempt you from jihad.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 26, 2005, 09:37:27 AM
Quote from: LMNOI would hit it precicely 333 times, then explode into the arms of Choronzon Himself

Then you'd meet face raping bats and spit in her eye.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2005, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: LMNOI would hit it precicely 333 times, then explode into the arms of Choronzon Himself

Then you'd meet face raping bats and spit in her eye.


::contemplates spitting in Lindsay Lohan's eye after hitting it 333 times ("it" does not mean her eye, btw)::


Sounds like some sort of Low Budget Internet Porn video.
Title: KMIYK
Post by: Donkeyotay on August 09, 2005, 02:27:07 AM
yes..BUMP..SO WHAT?!
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 07:58:29 PM
Bump. 

Why?  Because it's important to illustrate that, as bad as this board can get once in a while, at least it's not 2005.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
Hmmm.  In this thread, we remark how attractive Lindsey Lohan is, and how the board sucks.


Five years later, the board is fine, and Lohan is a fucking sewer pit of fail.


The question being, who pulled a Dorian Grey on Lindsey?
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 15, 2010, 08:17:20 PM
Hmmm.  In this thread, we remark how attractive Lindsey Lohan is, and how the board sucks.


Five years later, the board is fine, and Lohan is a fucking sewer pit of fail.


The question being, who pulled a Dorian Grey on Lindsey?

Some guys named "Cocaine and Booze".
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Well, at least we're reaping the benefits.


Thanks, LL!
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.

I hardly even remember that guy.  I remember Poib better than him, and Poib hasn't posted since June of 2003.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.

I hardly even remember that guy.  I remember Poib better than him, and Poib hasn't posted since June of 2003.

As I recall, Hotsuma was negative about just about everything. Apparently 'a pirate' of some kind. Probably made a lot of posts containing the words 'stab' and 'stabbity'.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: ~~~~Closed~~~~ on July 05, 2005, 09:09:56 PM
Quote from: Fnordiscordia
Quote from: Hotsuma



Quote from: Fnordiscordia*runs in and stabs everyone*


you don't do it right, it's about quality, not quantity.

*perferates the stabbing newbie*

You mean like this?

*pulls Hostuma into a woodchipper with him as he's perforated*


woodchippering isn't exactly stabbing, and besides, being a pirate ninja I'm currently immune to all forms of stabbination.

*stabs Fnordiscordia*


Exhibit A
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 15, 2010, 09:14:11 PM
Here's a project that's just occurred to me. Might be neat if one or more of the oldtimers compiled an old testament of PD. And lo the last decade or so of the discordian movement would be committed to canon. And then we could hold our very own council of Nicea and throw out all the bits that don't look like they're going to make us rich and powerful anytime soon.

Just, y'know, if anyone can be arsed or that...
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.

I hardly even remember that guy.  I remember Poib better than him, and Poib hasn't posted since June of 2003.

As I recall, Hotsuma was negative about just about everything. Apparently 'a pirate' of some kind. Probably made a lot of posts containing the words 'stab' and 'stabbity'.

Oddly enough, he's not in the member list.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 15, 2010, 09:14:11 PM
Here's a project that's just occurred to me. Might be neat if one or more of the oldtimers compiled an old testament of PD. And lo the last decade or so of the discordian movement would be committed to canon. And then we could hold our very own council of Nicea and throw out all the bits that don't look like they're going to make us rich and powerful anytime soon.

Just, y'know, if anyone can be arsed or that...

Working on a "Who's Who", both past and present.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.


Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.

I hardly even remember that guy.  I remember Poib better than him, and Poib hasn't posted since June of 2003.

As I recall, Hotsuma was negative about just about everything. Apparently 'a pirate' of some kind. Probably made a lot of posts containing the words 'stab' and 'stabbity'.

Oddly enough, he's not in the member list.

Hotsuma changed his screen name to ~~~Closed~~~ when he stopped posting.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: AFK on June 15, 2010, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 20, 2005, 03:42:43 PM
[pun]
I fear, my friend, that this thread has been jacked.
[/pun]

Just wanted to point this particular post out.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:23:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 09:58:32 AM
Where's Medeo?  Where's Hotsuma?  Where are all those people who used to be here?  Don't blame me for all of them running off.

Note for newer people:  The above is a lie.  GTL/Eric DID run Medeo off, by stalking his 10 year old sister.

Just wanted to clear that up.


Hotsuma left because we realized he wasn't really a pirate.

I hardly even remember that guy.  I remember Poib better than him, and Poib hasn't posted since June of 2003.

As I recall, Hotsuma was negative about just about everything. Apparently 'a pirate' of some kind. Probably made a lot of posts containing the words 'stab' and 'stabbity'.

Oddly enough, he's not in the member list.

Hotsuma changed his screen name to ~~~Closed~~~ when he stopped posting.


I always wondered who that was.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:31:21 PM
Wow.  He really did flounce.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:31:21 PM
Wow.  He really did flounce.

Yup.

Quote from: ~~~~Closed~~~~ on July 09, 2005, 11:19:14 AM
nno need to be thourogh when it comes to trains.

That was a stunning exit.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 15, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 09:31:21 PM
Wow.  He really did flounce.

Yup.

Quote from: ~~~~Closed~~~~ on July 09, 2005, 11:19:14 AM
nno need to be thourogh when it comes to trains.

That was a stunning exit.

He'll be back.

They always come back.
Title: Re: KMIYK
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on June 15, 2010, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Great Teacher Largo on May 19, 2005, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: Madness of Malaul:shock:
::stops writing on the door::

No, see, I said doors.  You can right on a door.  You can write on multiple single doors.  But only assholes write on doors.  For further clarification, please watch the RHPS.

This.  This shit right here. 




However, I still can't stand nerinamakani.