Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2016, 03:02:34 AM
It occurs to me that the final failure of Discordianism is that we pretend we're not baboons until something like the election comes along. Then we jump right in with the humans and button our uniforms up until we can't breathe, pointing and gasping about everyone else's uniforms, while at the same time waving our inflamed baboon asses all over the place. It is nothing more than assisted self-abuse, though at one time it was that AND some interesting stuff. Like 7 years ago. Sort of like the Church of the Subgenius, only 5 years later.
Discordianism is a pathetic joke, an excuse for assholes, and a means by which to pretend that we're not as dumb as THEM.
Thinking about this. Not gonna bother with thought process. Conclusion:
Discordia allows a person to behave they way they personally feel is proper.
Do people have "Inner Natures"? Is it a product of their nurturing? Do people become self aware of their behavior? Is it gifted by the stars? Is it Thetans?
Discordia doesn't care, and Discordia doesn't give an answer. Discordia tells you you're free to do what you want to do, and to use Eris as your Appeal to Authority, as it were.
Do you self-analyze constantly? Discordia gives you OmniPerspective
TM so you can see yourself from any angle you like.
Do you enjoy stupid jokes? Discordia give you Nonsense as Salvation, so you can be as silly as you like.
Are you a dick that likes schadenfreude? Discordia has Strife and Destruction.
Are you cynical and jaded? Discordia gives you Nothing is True.
Do you just get high all the time and not care? Discordia tells you to Plant Your Seeds and Bliss Out.
Are you generally a nice person? Discordia gives you Oh, Then Stop, allowing you to unsubscribe from destructive habits.
This explains not only FB Disco, but also this page, the Krewe of Eris, and all the other factions that exist in Discordia and don't get along. Because what Discordia "IS" is what people are when they think they're given an excuse to be themselves.
I read "plant your seeds" as more allegorical, but that's probably the propagandist in me talking.
That's just what they WANT you to think.
Oh, yeah, it has room for the conspiracy theorists, as well.
I just don't think Discordians thrive when things are going well.
Sombunall?
[runs away]
Quote from: LMNO on March 05, 2016, 01:59:56 AM
Sombunall?
[runs away]
Remember that I have a spear gun.
Seriously. I don't think we do well at all without adversity.
QuoteSeriously. I don't think we do well at all without adversity.
That's not discordians - that's the human condition. Without adversity we become fat and weak and lazy and dumb and decadent and we vote for Trump who promises a fatter, weaker, lazier, dumber, more decadent future.
It always happens that way, going right back to the stone age. Then it all collapses and we get our adversity back and it's all good again. Except for the mountains of dead primates. For them, it's not so good.
I practically thought I was an expert on Discordianism until I read this. I just realized, I didn't know SHIT about Discordianism. All the shit I thought was just stoners being goofy, it was just a bigger concept that went right over my fuckin head. I mean, I got a decent amount of it, but nearly as much as I thought.
FUCK
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 04, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
I read "plant your seeds" as more allegorical, but that's probably the propagandist in me talking.
I think that's another great thing about Discordia: different parts can mean different things to different people.
I like this, LMNO. YDIOK.
Quote from: Fernando Poo on March 05, 2016, 09:21:18 PM
I practically thought I was an expert on Discordianism until I read this. I just realized, I didn't know SHIT about Discordianism. All the shit I thought was just stoners being goofy, it was just a bigger concept that went right over my fuckin head. I mean, I got a decent amount of it, but nearly as much as I thought.
FUCK
Quote from: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2016, 03:02:34 AM
It occurs to me that the final failure of Discordianism is that we pretend we're not baboons until something like the election comes along. Then we jump right in with the humans and button our uniforms up until we can't breathe, pointing and gasping about everyone else's uniforms, while at the same time waving our inflamed baboon asses all over the place. It is nothing more than assisted self-abuse, though at one time it was that AND some interesting stuff. Like 7 years ago. Sort of like the Church of the Subgenius, only 5 years later.
Discordianism is a pathetic joke, an excuse for assholes, and a means by which to pretend that we're not as dumb as THEM.
Thinking about this. Not gonna bother with thought process. Conclusion:
Discordia allows a person to behave they way they personally feel is proper.
Do people have "Inner Natures"? Is it a product of their nurturing? Do people become self aware of their behavior? Is it gifted by the stars? Is it Thetans?
Discordia doesn't care, and Discordia doesn't give an answer. Discordia tells you you're free to do what you want to do, and to use Eris as your Appeal to Authority, as it were.
Do you self-analyze constantly? Discordia gives you OmniPerspectiveTM so you can see yourself from any angle you like.
Do you enjoy stupid jokes? Discordia give you Nonsense as Salvation, so you can be as silly as you like.
Are you a dick that likes schadenfreude? Discordia has Strife and Destruction.
Are you cynical and jaded? Discordia gives you Nothing is True.
Do you just get high all the time and not care? Discordia tells you to Plant Your Seeds and Bliss Out.
Are you generally a nice person? Discordia gives you Oh, Then Stop, allowing you to unsubscribe from destructive habits.
This explains not only FB Disco, but also this page, the Krewe of Eris, and all the other factions that exist in Discordia and don't get along. Because what Discordia "IS" is what people are when they think they're given an excuse to be themselves.
Can I use both of these for Holy Nonsense?
Personally, I think my Discordianism has helped me to become a better person. Not a better person than anybody else, but a better person than I used to be. A more rational person, and a more empathetic person, with a better ability to grasp that people have different perspectives, and that given the same information, those perspectives may lead people to different conclusions. Without making them bad, stupid, or wrong; just different. I may argue against their conclusions, especially if I think they are going to lead to other people being hurt or prevent other people from being helped, but my Discordianism has helped me to argue with the ideas, and not to dismiss the human.
That's my Discordianism, because we all get to choose our own. Whatever you think Discordia is; that's your Discordia.
Yes. Absolutely. Love that.
And QG, you can use mine. Roger's piece is his to decide on, of course.
Quote from: LMNO on March 06, 2016, 09:16:56 PM
Yes. Absolutely. Love that.
And QG, you can use mine. Roger's piece is his to decide on, of course.
I'm okay with it.
I dunno, I'm new to it, but it seems to me to be a 'Herd of Cats' in both theory and practice... If you more or less design a movement (religion, belief system, club, orgy, whatever...) to attract various forms of non - joiners and 'outsiders' (freethinkers, hippies, occultists, conspiracy theorists, alternative historians, anyone who reads about Taoism, get it?), they're all going to INSTINCTIVELY pull away somewhat and never really allow the movement to solidify because they're all malcontents and can't really join anything. You get a cacophony of people who want to be heard, but would generally prefer to not be around when you listen. Genius idea, really...
As a malcontent, outsider, non - joiner, and aspiring megalomaniac, I was instantly attracted to the circus of watching folks try to get together and avoid a sense of belonging.
Quote from: Max Blyss on March 17, 2016, 04:59:58 AM
I dunno, I'm new to it, but it seems to me to be a 'Herd of Cats' in both theory and practice... If you more or less design a movement (religion, belief system, club, orgy, whatever...) to attract various forms of non - joiners and 'outsiders' (freethinkers, hippies, occultists, conspiracy theorists, alternative historians, anyone who reads about Taoism, get it?), they're all going to INSTINCTIVELY pull away somewhat and never really allow the movement to solidify because they're all malcontents and can't really join anything. You get a cacophony of people who want to be heard, but would generally prefer to not be around when you listen. Genius idea, really...
As a malcontent, outsider, non - joiner, and aspiring megalomaniac, I was instantly attracted to the circus of watching folks try to get together and avoid a sense of belonging.
Conversely, the subsequent harmony obtained, though theoretically "difficult", remains no less or more beautiful because of said cognitive dissonance. Rather, you'Rs truly would proclaim that when all these seeminly disparate voices do together resonate, the resultant effect is clearly deeper, of greater range, and with the resplendent body of morherfucking god's immaculate organ of creation and destruction.
Quote from: axod on March 17, 2016, 05:19:43 AM
the resplendent body of morherfucking god's immaculate organ of creation and destruction.
I like that. Has a ring to it.