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Title: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: The Dark Monk on July 06, 2012, 06:47:03 PM
I'm not sure if a good majority of people here are zombie fans, though I am curious to know what everyone's opinion of Walking Dead s1-2 has been, as I am anticipating season 3 as it seems a go for AT+T has renewed it's contract.

Also, favorite zombies of all time, movies, manga, stories, anything zombie ^.^

Before Walking Dead, the major zombie oriented show I watched was High School of the Dead which I believe has the entire series on youtube. Slow, blind zombies, anime both subbed and dubbed, gratuitous nudity in the traditional horror-movie spurts, all in all not bad. No mutations like in RE or parasites, no mutations, just unending hordes. 
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: LMNO on July 06, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
Season 1 was good, season 2 dragged the fuck on.  GET OFF THE FARM, ALREADY!
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Post by: The Dark Monk on July 06, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
I'm wondering how the new characters will develop, according to EW which did a short article on it and revealing new posters, there will be two new major characters that will come into play. Should explain the helicopter as well, maybe an explanation as to why the zombies are there in the first place. I can't wait for it  :fap:
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Elder Iptuous on July 06, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
i liked season two.  it had plenty of 'holy fuck' moments.  eagerly awaiting season three to be released on the torrents. (i always wait till a season is done before i watch a show.)

the wife and i were just watching high school of the dead last week.  i hadn't watched a fanboy anime in a while (i guess desert punk, maybe?)  but for zombies, i'll make an exception.  it wasn't bad.

Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
I've only seen the first season. I thought it was well-done, but the ending seemed a little rushed.

My main response to the show was "I really should have kept in touch with Robert Kirkman after we stopped working together," but that's been my response to a lot of things over the last decade or so. Who expected the goofy high school kid from Cynthiana to become the darling of the geek world?
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2012, 07:35:02 PM
I can't watch it.  I cannot see Andrew Lincoln acting in any way responsible, not after Teachers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachers_%28UK_TV_series%29).  The idea that Simon would be entrusted with anything more complex than grading in the pub is too horrible to contemplate
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: LMNO on July 06, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
I've only seen the first season. I thought it was well-done, but the ending seemed a little rushed.

My main response to the show was "I really should have kept in touch with Robert Kirkman after we stopped working together," but that's been my response to a lot of things over the last decade or so. Who expected the goofy high school kid from Cynthiana to become the darling of the geek world?

I think you dropped something in that post back there...
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 08:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 06, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Quote from: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
I've only seen the first season. I thought it was well-done, but the ending seemed a little rushed.

My main response to the show was "I really should have kept in touch with Robert Kirkman after we stopped working together," but that's been my response to a lot of things over the last decade or so. Who expected the goofy high school kid from Cynthiana to become the darling of the geek world?

I think you dropped something in that post back there...

It helps keep the bitterness from overwhelming me.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: hooplala on July 06, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on July 06, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
i liked season two.  it had plenty of 'holy fuck' moments. 

There were?  Name a couple... I seem to have forgotten them.

I loved the first season, and loathed the second season.  Wife and I stopped watching the last few episodes... it got a to a point where nothing would happen in the entire episode, and then they would toss something at you in the last ten minutes.  No thanks, had enough of that with Lost.  I will give the 3rd season a try, since I hear from fans of the comic there have been hints of great things on the horizon.

As for zombie movie picks, obviously the first Dawn of the Dead, but if you haven't seen a small Canadian movie named Pontypool, it is well worth it.  Elain's psychiatrist boyfriend from Sienfeld is the main character, there is hardly any gore or violence at all, but it wonderful.

Speaking of zombie movies, *cough cough* : http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277 (http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277)  (sorry, couldn't resist)
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 08:40:39 PM
Zombie movie recommendations: The obvious Romero stuff (especially Dawn and Night), Zombie Strippers, Cemetery Man, Fido (although it's one where the execution didn't quite live up to the concept).
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
HAY GUYZ HAVE U HEARD ABOUT THIS GR8 BOOK, IT'S CALLED "WORLD WAR Z"????  :wink: :p :fnord: :? :eek:
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: hooplala on July 06, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
HAY GUYZ HAVE U HEARD ABOUT THIS GR8 BOOK, IT'S CALLED "WORLD WAR Z"????  :wink: :p :fnord: :? :eek:

LOL.  Was I the only one who found it boring?
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2012, 08:50:14 PM
No.  I mean, it was OK I guess.... To be honest, the whole "zombies as a cultural phenomenon" thing annoys me very slightly.  I don't know why.  I'm not inclined to think about it much.  It just does.  Certain individual productions are alright, but there does seem to be some kind of desperate need to shoehorn zombies into all the things for the past couple of years, and it's a bit stale, really.

One day, cannibals will no doubt make a comeback, and I'll find them just as annoying.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: kingyak on July 06, 2012, 08:54:06 PM
Both of Brooks' zombie books were the kind of thing where the basic premise (a field guide to surviving the zombie apocalypse/Studs Terkel covers the zombie apocalypse) is a good one, but in order to actually do it correctly you kind of have to end up with a book that's kind of boring.

For fun zombie novels, I recommend Pariah by Bob Fingerman (the guy who did the Minimum Wage comic).
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: hooplala on July 06, 2012, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2012, 08:50:14 PM
No.  I mean, it was OK I guess.... To be honest, the whole "zombies as a cultural phenomenon" thing annoys me very slightly.  I don't know why.  I'm not inclined to think about it much.  It just does.  Certain individual productions are alright, but there does seem to be some kind of desperate need to shoehorn zombies into all the things for the past couple of years, and it's a bit stale, really.

One day, cannibals will no doubt make a comeback, and I'll find them just as annoying.

I hate it for purely hipster reasons... I admit it.  15 years ago nobody I knew talked about zombie movies, just me and my cousin.... then 28 Days Later and BOOM... its everywhere.  My secret love became worldwide popular... it stung.  It's a babyish reason, but its honest and there it is.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
I think that's fair.  And probably more valid than my reason, which is essentially "because".
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: hooplala on July 06, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 06, 2012, 09:45:51 PM
Zombie movies suck. Vampire movies also suck. Which is too bad, because zombies and vampires are the only worthwhile fictional monsters.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 06, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Walking dead season 1 - awesome. S2 - i'm half way through it on network teevee, still waiting for something to happen but the character development is cool and teh little girl they were searching for for ages, turning up as the last zombie in the barn was fucking class!

Movies - The romero trilogy (there were only 3 - punch anyone who tells you otherwise) is still the definitive zombie movies. Comedy zombies don't come any better than Pete "LOTR" jackson's Braindead (Dead alive in the US)

Obscure classic is one of the spaghetti zombie movies (pretty sure it was a Fulchi's work) called City of the Living Dead - Couple of exceptional splats in that one, including a guy literally puking his guts up and a bench lathe meets eyeball gag!
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 06, 2012, 11:46:38 PM
Cain i agree with you. Its irritating sometimes. Well most of the time. The zombie meme grates on my nerves as much as people who say nom nom (insert type of food here) or fail in normal conversation. Zombies arent THAT interesting. Personally i would like someone to revisit voodoo zombies instead of virus zombies.

That said hoops you should review hard rock zombies.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 06, 2012, 11:48:18 PM
Zombies are now what vampires were in the 90s. The only difference is that people dont think theyre zombies.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 07, 2012, 12:16:51 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 06, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on July 06, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
i liked season two.  it had plenty of 'holy fuck' moments. 

There were?  Name a couple... I seem to have forgotten them.

I loved the first season, and loathed the second season.  Wife and I stopped watching the last few episodes... it got a to a point where nothing would happen in the entire episode, and then they would toss something at you in the last ten minutes.  No thanks, had enough of that with Lost.  I will give the 3rd season a try, since I hear from fans of the comic there have been hints of great things on the horizon.

As for zombie movie picks, obviously the first Dawn of the Dead, but if you haven't seen a small Canadian movie named Pontypool, it is well worth it.  Elain's psychiatrist boyfriend from Sienfeld is the main character, there is hardly any gore or violence at all, but it wonderful.

Speaking of zombie movies, *cough cough* : http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277 (http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277)  (sorry, couldn't resist)

:lulz: That was awesome!
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Triple Zero on July 07, 2012, 12:47:12 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 06, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
Season 1 was good, season 2 dragged the fuck on.  GET OFF THE FARM, ALREADY!

I sorta agree but also since I didn't particularly care for zombies for the sake of OMFG ZOMBIES, it really took me a while to get into the series, because S01 wasn't very fast-paced either and I found myself skipping forward through the "suspense" scenes with only three options: no zombie, zombie kills someone, zombie gets killed--so just tell me which one and we can get on with the story, ok? And I only started caring about near the end of the first season.

My friends said that the comic on which the series is based is in fact much, much better.

My favourite zombie movies are Evil Dead / Army of Darkness and Shawn of the Dead and uhh From Dusk Till Dawn was actually zombie-like vampires, right? Bubba-ho-tep because mummies are also zombies. And Braindead is a classic. And of course the audiences that go to watch the Twilight saga.

I personally think that Zombies by themselves are actually really boring, and the "Zombie Apocalypse Survival" theme has been played out too thin, and it's really all the other things that are not about zombies that make or break a movie / series.

Waitwaitwaitwait I forgot PLANET TERROR (aka the second half of Grindhouse in the US, iirc) that one was fucking awesome. Again, not because of the zombies, because from the movie posters, you wonder if that girl has an AK as a prosthetic leg, how does she pull the trigger?? Which is a fucking stupid question, though the film provides an answer along the lines of BECUASE AWESOME. NOW STFU, HEY LOOK SPLOSIONS!.

Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: hooplala on July 07, 2012, 04:04:29 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 07, 2012, 12:16:51 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 06, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on July 06, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
i liked season two.  it had plenty of 'holy fuck' moments. 

There were?  Name a couple... I seem to have forgotten them.

I loved the first season, and loathed the second season.  Wife and I stopped watching the last few episodes... it got a to a point where nothing would happen in the entire episode, and then they would toss something at you in the last ten minutes.  No thanks, had enough of that with Lost.  I will give the 3rd season a try, since I hear from fans of the comic there have been hints of great things on the horizon.

As for zombie movie picks, obviously the first Dawn of the Dead, but if you haven't seen a small Canadian movie named Pontypool, it is well worth it.  Elain's psychiatrist boyfriend from Sienfeld is the main character, there is hardly any gore or violence at all, but it wonderful.

Speaking of zombie movies, *cough cough* : http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277 (http://blip.tv/rexbologna/rex-bologna-reviews-gangs-of-the-dead-6239277)  (sorry, couldn't resist)

:lulz: That was awesome!
.               


Thanks Nigel!
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: v3x on July 06, 2012, 09:45:51 PM
Zombie movies suck. Vampire movies also suck. Which is too bad, because zombies and vampires are the only worthwhile fictional monsters.

Lovecraftian horrors are good fictional monsters.

Hard to get in a movie without causing half the audience committing suicide, however.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 06, 2012, 11:48:18 PM
Zombies are now what vampires were in the 90s. The only difference is that people dont think theyre zombies.

No, they go on Zombie Walks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_walk).

That said, you're right, vampire cultists are way more annoying.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: Xooxe on July 07, 2012, 06:58:35 PM
All the PC cats seem to be obsessed with Day Z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpPIyJDSEQ), an open world survival game, and once again it's proof that humans are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCFiA3ZHGQU) bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSWRfI4SkWc) people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NO-P9tucGg).
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Post by: E.O.T. on July 07, 2012, 07:31:07 PM


GENERALLY

          the zombie stuff doesn't really draw my attention. i really, really enjoyed the movie 'cemetery man' and i lol at all the day/ dawn of the dead stuff. at least here where i live, you can't turn a fucking corner without zombie this zombie that ads and comics and theme parties, it just gets silly. the zombies vs. robots vs. amazons series by IDW is funny. however, my daughter began grabbing trade paper backs of the walking dead and reading the whole series eventually, and i knew it was just a matter of time til she wanted to see the show. i kinda protested the interest from the get go, but one's only daughter has a way of getting what she wants.

SO I WATCHED

          season one and thought it was pretty great. lots of tense moments, pulled off the horror element well. there was also quite a bit which was highly improbable (aside from the zombies). but what does one expect from a tv show, really? it's going to eventually get ridiculous and have so many inconsistencies you'll be throwing your beer at the screen. season one diverged from the original comic story so much that i'm not certain what to expect from the tv version.
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Post by: Reginald Ret on July 08, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
Zombies?

Stubbs the zombie in rebel without a pulse Victory Speech: http://youtu.be/1bAQ5GJ7szM

Quote from: http://xbox.about.com/od/reviews/fr/stubbstzrev.htmStubbs the Zombie is like a dream game for zombie fans. We finally get the chance to play as a zombie and eat brains, tear people in half, and beat people to death with their own arm. If any part of that sentence was appealing to you, you should go buy Stubbs the Zombie right now.
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Post by: The Dark Monk on July 09, 2012, 03:51:43 PM
Stubbs is AWESOME you can actually use your head as an explosive bowling ball and you fight Candy Stripers.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: The Dark Monk on July 17, 2012, 04:42:43 AM
So I heard a new zombie game pokin' around on Steam using the ARMA 2 engine. It's DayZ in which you survive by going into towns, fighting running zombies. You start off on a coast in a fictional I believe Russian island. There you have only 3 things: Painkillers, flashlight, and one bandage, and it is your job to find food, water, and heat-packs to stay alive. You have no normal way of fending off zombies until you reach a town and become lucky enough to find a crowbar, a 9mm pistol, or a hatchet. Sounds easy enough right?
Here's a kicker: Since you start off with no weapon and no means of attack, you must crawl along the ground prone so they do not see or hear you, using tin cans to throw in a direction you want them to investigate away from you. They go to inspect and you finally get into a building, where you see another survivor rooting around the supplies. You realize this survivor has the hatchet you are looking for, and he wants your bandages and painkillers....
Should you bob and weave and avoid the hatchet wielding maniac survivor (Who is another player on servers that hold up to 100 people) you find yourself in the middle of town being chased by not only him, but a horde of zombies whose single strikes can cause you to pass out, become infected, or bleed until death or bandage. You run run run, and there is a hidden survivor as assholish as the one you are trying to avoid, who has been further inland to military bases and has found himself a cz550 sniper rifle....
Through all of that should you happen to get away, and you have lost the zombies running in and out of buildings, the hatchet man taken down by the sniper who is now training his sights on you but you are safe for a bit inside of a building, you notice that you are becoming increasingly dehydrated, your stomach is rumbling, and you feel as if you are going to pass out from thirst and hunger...
In the corner is a can of pasta and a can of coke, after this can opened meal you again bob and weave while prone avoiding zombies and sniper fire to a supply shed across the street and find yourself a makarov pistol...
A zombie follows you in and you take him out, proud that you finally have a weapon, and the horde hears your gunshots, the sniper hears your gunshots, there's only one way out. You get struck, you bleed, but there's too many zombies to patch yourself up so you run out around the grabbing arms, a trail of blood following you as a bullet enters your skull...

You find yourself on the coast, with bandages, painkillers and a flashlight...
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 17, 2012, 05:00:23 AM
That sounds like a good one! Possibly, though, the starting from the beginning will get tedious after a while. Better if you could start from the beginning with one of the other items, so you could play through as different characters every time you awake.
Title: Re: Zombies....zombies...
Post by: The Dark Monk on July 17, 2012, 07:52:47 AM
It randomizes what your character looks like, and if you log out and log back in to any server with the mod, you start exactly where you left and with what items you had, the only time you start from scratch is if you die. Also, if you die you can possibly find your body again and get your things if it hasnt been looted already, ie: zombies killing you and not players. I also run around with a friend so we can heal eachother on top of if we die we get the important items and meet back up