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Nick Pell (previous Esozone co-ordinator, and genuine post-occult bad-ass) has laid out a streamlined version of Christopher Hyatt's Detensing method combined with Taoist, Tantric, and Zen exercises. If you are genuinely interested in brain-change, and not afraid of the trauma that always goes along with it, this is a must-read. One of the best write-ups of breath-work and muscle-armor detensing techniques I've run across without all of the occult metaphors. I've done most of the exercises describes at various times and they've worked for me.
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 01:52:12 AM
http://blacksungazette.com/?p=399 (http://blacksungazette.com/?p=399)
Nick Pell (previous Esozone co-ordinator, and genuine post-occult bad-ass) has laid out a streamlined version of Christopher Hyatt's Detensing method combined with Taoist, Tantric, and Zen exercises. If you are genuinely interested in brain-change, and not afraid of the trauma that always goes along with it, this is a must-read. One of the best write-ups of breath-work and muscle-armor detensing techniques I've run across without all of the occult metaphors. I've done most of the exercises describes at various times and they've worked for me.
Is this psychosomatics?
trauma?
also - what's with this:
QuoteAs always, no thanks to disgusting manipulators and right-wing power mongers looking to fuck their father's corpse- and Tim Leary's and Bob Wilson's for that matter- before it is even cold. Your day of reckoning will come sooner than you think.
Kai - Related. Hyatt used the Reichian concept of muscle or body armor as the method that the human body uses to deal with trauma. Unfortunately, as Reich says, the current form of civilization does not allow for rest periods where this muscle-armor (or Tension) can relax or allow the individual to integrate it's lessons. Thus, they just build up. This chronic tension negatively affects breathing patterns, which reduce the oxygen level, which leads to further health problems (reference the 'What is Chi' thread).
The Taoists teach that each thought we have corresponds to muscle tension. We can see this from the scientific evidence that when we think with abstracting language, our brain queues up the appropriate signals for us to make those vocalizations with our facial muscles, and then simply does not allow them to be transmitted to the muscles themselves. Well, it's more like our brain reduces the amplitude of the signal so those muscle tense slightly, but not enough to actually form the sounds/expel the breath.
When meditating for a no-mind state (i.e. trying to rid the current consciousness of abstract thoughts) as you clear those abstract patterns from the mind, the related muscle tensions will begin to relax. If you do have a knot of chronic muscle armor, then most simple meditation and relaxation techniques will bring this knot into awareness, which will begin to replay the memory of the trauma that caused the knot, thus causing the knot's tension to increase as that is how the body reacted to the trauma the first time in an effort to protect the organism.
This is a very-bad strange loop, and one of the major causes of a negative 5th circuit Neuro-Somatic Feedback experiences.
The tech that Nick lays out to be done before mediation allows you to work through the underlying muscle armor by targeting certain parts of the body with repeated tension-detension in a guided fashion. This should exhaust and relax the underlying knots of muscle armor, so that when you begin the meditations they will not have as strong an effect. Over time, this can allow you to un-weave these chronic spots of tension. But you will relive the original trauma in various degrees as it gets purged from you muscle memory.
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rong - Genuine occult techniques necessarily involve trauma (which should be read as "sudden shock" and not with the negative emotional associations). A sudden shock is the only way an emergent system will re-organize itself into a higher level of cohesion.
As to the 'fucking wilson's corpse' thing... I dunno, Nick's an interesting fellow and it's probably a comment aimed at a specific group that may run across his blog. 'New Falcon' comes to mind, but you'd only get that reference if you're aware of the drama surrounding Falcon Publications. That's just speculation, tho, and it's probably just 'Think For Yourself, Schmuck' in Nick's personal verbiage.
bookmarked, thank you for a very interesting piece Telarus. :golfclap:
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
Kai - Related. Hyatt used the Reichian concept of muscle or body armor as the method that the human body uses to deal with trauma. Unfortunately, as Reich says, the current form of civilization does not allow for rest periods where this muscle-armor (or Tension) can relax or allow the individual to integrate it's lessons. Thus, they just build up. This chronic tension negatively affects breathing patterns, which reduce the oxygen level, which leads to further health problems (reference the 'What is Chi' thread).
Agreed. Muscle tension from continuous stress levels affects my breathing, leading to a breath cycle where I find myself pausing way too often at the bottom of the breath. Overall this seems to have a large effect on my ability to stay awake and full of energy, instead I end up feeling tired all day. Only one part of this problem, of course (the others being sleep cycle and eating habits).
QuoteThe Taoists teach that each thought we have corresponds to muscle tension. We can see this from the scientific evidence that when we think with abstracting language, our brain queues up the appropriate signals for us to make those vocalizations with our facial muscles, and then simply does not allow them to be transmitted to the muscles themselves. Well, it's more like our brain reduces the amplitude of the signal so those muscle tense slightly, but not enough to actually form the sounds/expel the breath.
I don't know if every thought corresponds to muscle tension, but I do know that often when I'm thinking the vocal chords will be moving and tensing. My neck may be often tense because of this.
QuoteWhen meditating for a no-mind state (i.e. trying to rid the current consciousness of abstract thoughts) as you clear those abstract patterns from the mind, the related muscle tensions will begin to relax. If you do have a knot of chronic muscle armor, then most simple meditation and relaxation techniques will bring this knot into awareness, which will begin to replay the memory of the trauma that caused the knot, thus causing the knot's tension to increase as that is how the body reacted to the trauma the first time in an effort to protect the organism.
This is a very-bad strange loop, and one of the major causes of a negative 5th circuit Neuro-Somatic Feedback experiences.
The tech that Nick lays out to be done before mediation allows you to work through the underlying muscle armor by targeting certain parts of the body with repeated tension-detension in a guided fashion. This should exhaust and relax the underlying knots of muscle armor, so that when you begin the meditations they will not have as strong an effect. Over time, this can allow you to un-weave these chronic spots of tension. But you will relive the original trauma in various degrees as it gets purged from you muscle memory.
Repeated tension-detension sounds like a fine method. Massage works largely in the same manner, except by pressing out the tension. In Chi Gung, the practice Opening the Energy Gates of the Body is a tactile meditation where one works from the peak of the head to the soles of the feet, focusing on points in the body that are often filled with tension (energy gates), and releasing that tension by focusing on "dropping the chi", or moving that psychosomatic tension down the body in waves. This works quite well on its own, but I think Motherfucker Tantra used in combination with Opening the Energy Gates could be an interesting meditation program to pursue.
Great thread! Not wanting to seemingly pick out one sentence at random, but:
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
A sudden shock is the only way an emergent system will re-organize itself into a higher level of cohesion.
Is this strictly true? I'm not disputing that a sudden shock can reorganise an emergent system, and by definition it is likely the quickest way - but is it the
only method in theory, or the only method we have now?
Quote from: fictionpuss on September 14, 2009, 04:14:39 PM
Great thread! Not wanting to seemingly pick out one sentence at random, but:
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
A sudden shock is the only way an emergent system will re-organize itself into a higher level of cohesion.
Is this strictly true? I'm not disputing that a sudden shock can reorganise an emergent system, and by definition it is likely the quickest way - but is it the only method in theory, or the only method we have now?
I think it depends on what you consider a sudden shock... generally speaking though, of the systems and techniques I've looked at... shock seems to be a key piece of the puzzle.
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
Kai - Related. Hyatt used the Reichian concept of
:horrormirth:
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 01:52:12 AM
http://blacksungazette.com/?p=399 (http://blacksungazette.com/?p=399)
Nick Pell (previous Esozone co-ordinator, and genuine post-occult bad-ass) has laid out a streamlined version of Christopher Hyatt's Detensing method combined with Taoist, Tantric, and Zen exercises. If you are genuinely interested in brain-change, and not afraid of the trauma that always goes along with it, this is a must-read. One of the best write-ups of breath-work and muscle-armor detensing techniques I've run across without all of the occult metaphors. I've done most of the exercises describes at various times and they've worked for me.
I think I'll stick with deviant sex, thanks.
I briefly tried the method, even blogged about it. I experienced how deep meditation is damn near impossible for me without some sort of physical catharsis beforehand. I still wonder if regular exercise, (probably more on the weight training end of things) would work in a similar way. Does the frame of the experience make a difference?
Israel Regardie has a book that deals with more similar techniques for anyone interested. It's called the Lazy Man's Guide to Relaxation. I used some of the techniques in that book along with Hyatt's book.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2009, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
Kai - Related. Hyatt used the Reichian concept of
:horrormirth:
I don't know anything about Reich, other than him being literally demonized for holding weird views (orgone etc).
TGRR, this was pre-orgone-crazy Reich. It's when he was studying bodywork and how our physical bodies respond to our mental states and vice-versa.
Quote from: fictionpuss on September 14, 2009, 04:14:39 PM
Great thread! Not wanting to seemingly pick out one sentence at random, but:
Quote from: Telarus on September 14, 2009, 04:01:47 AM
A sudden shock is the only way an emergent system will re-organize itself into a higher level of cohesion.
Is this strictly true? I'm not disputing that a sudden shock can reorganise an emergent system, and by definition it is likely the quickest way - but is it the only method in theory, or the only method we have now?
How about "Standard, even among the unconventional"? It's probably the only way to get there from "below", and even that practice seems hard/inconvenient for the initiator.
Dude, just take "only" out of the sentence, and let people try to find other ways, if they want.
Granted, I may have jumped the gun with the "only" comment. I'll see if I can find some sources.
Quote from: Telarus on September 15, 2009, 08:17:18 PM
Granted, I may have jumped the gun with the "only" comment. I'll see if I can find some sources.
No need to sweat it, I was just curious - I don't exactly have any sources!