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#47
The fifth hour of the twenty-third day of the fifth month of the twenty-third year.
#48
about Turkmenistan


Firstly, Turkmenistan is dictatorship, with an extra level of being shut off from the world.  It seems like the sort of place that doesn't want random visitors.  Sometimes there are youtube videos of people just driving into Turkmenistan to see what would happen.  I think Turkmenistan is trying to form an internal world without outside influence.  (maybe the visitors are just laughing people, or maybe they are fundamentalist christian missionaries pretending to be laughing people)

Turkmenistan is a post-Soviet place.  I think some of the things that are called weird are being called this by the sort of western people that Discordians consider boring.  The Soviet advance took traditional monarchist and Islamic structures, smashed them, and replaced them with a new atheist style.  Turkmenistan kept the idea of a Soviet Cult of Personality and elaborated on the idea. 

The Niyazov administration was building a new Turkmen nationalism.  The book Ruhnama can be downloaded from the internet.  The individual Discordian can decide whether or not Turkmenbashi was as weird as is claimed.

At that time, Turkmenistan's next-door neighbor was Afghanistan under the first Taliban administration.  Some of Turkmenistan's Soviet behaviors were aggressive towards Islam, for example placing Ruhnama above the Qur'an in mosques.  This was part of the Soviet empire's goal of erasing Islam from this world.  In this sense, Turkmenistan can be seen as the southern boundry of the former Soviet Union.

In this era, militant Islam is much more powerful.  Post-communist entities such as Turkmenistan are weaker and seem like remnants of the past.  Atheism is default, and something eternal that will return, eventually.

Turkmenistan has like 4 million people, consists of desert and cities.  Playing as the Turkmen faction in real life is equal to selecting the very hard difficulty in the game.  If the new Taliban regime begins to expand, Turkmenistan is the obvious weakest neighboring country. 

In this era, there are videos of the Turkmen personality cult on the internet.  A person can watch a book being dictated by a dictator to a crowd of syncophantic ghost writers.  These books are also the only books legal in Turkmenistan.  This is similar to the Chinese Maoist 8 Noble Works, being the only tv shows permissable in China for a decade.  The difference being 4 million people or 1 billion people. 

I think a Discordian can consume Soviet personality cults.  This stuff is designed to disrupt Christian and Islamic social structures. 
#49
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 04, 2023, 08:47:52 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 03, 2023, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: Tinfoilment on March 03, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Tinfoilment on March 02, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
I haven't worked in a factory sector,.
Whereof you do not know, thereof you should not speak.
I will address this "im ok, youre not ok" statement
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You think calling yourself a discordian should place you above criticism?  You can spout whatever nonsense you like, and everyone is expected to sit by and nod in silent reverence at your profundity?

Yes.  I think Discordianism is Theocratic Anarchy.  Spouting nonsense is our entire game.  I am merely dropping some scrolls for the Year 23 holiday season.  How reactionary onlookers choose to be is their own decision.  That you see scrolls as "shithead" activity is projection.  Realize that Discordianism is the era of Bramayuga.  Chaos religion creates religion from nothing, Brahma holds zines and creates religion from nothing.

About profundity.  Would you describe Ars Paulina as a profound religious document?


"Discordians should not talk about things they dont know much about."   The Principia Discordia is full of nonsense the authors didn't know much about,
Who cares?  The PD may have been appropriate for the sixties, but that style of "enlightenment" doesn't land well today.

:kingmeh:   You are rejecting something "old" in its own house, for being too old.  You are also rejecting a new religion mod for being too new.  Also you think the Principia was "enlightened".  The Principia is a chainsaw ripping apart organized religion.  This is an era of Christian Crusade and Islamic Jihad.  In many places blasphemy carries the death penalty, and Discordianism is one of the most blasphemous religions in human history.

Therefore, yes, Discordians are infallable.  Live stoned and die by stones.

Quote from: Tinfoilment on March 03, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
Principia Discordia is easier with this than other religions, because it doesnt have rules.
Wrong.  Discordianism has rules.  I should know, I'm the Pope.

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Here for example, my forum ability is severely atrophied from what it was years ago on other forums, both in my attitude and in the hardware.
You're the only person I've ever met who used "atrophied forum ability" as an excuse for being wrong.

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I feel an utter lack of interest in correcting grammar.
What if your writing is incoherent to the point of being incomprehensible?  Do you even want to improve your "atrophied forum ability", or is it just an excuse?

Not really.  I may buy a new computer merely to continue this troll argument properly.  But i genuinely hate the British Empires leftover customs, and also i have a head full of ancient books that always talk in broken fragments.

Incomprehensible:
ឈញឣាឌឬឣាធឌឈូឬីឣធូឈីឣាថសេរតុតិថចឮសេយរតិងតខឹតឮរឮា៨ុរិតងខឮថឮថឮុាតិយ៩យិ៥ងាខឮខឮេាធឬជែឌឬីឌៅធធឣាជាធឌឌៅធៅញបៃឃជឌ័ឃេ
#50
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 04, 2023, 08:07:16 AM
Permutation Circle


requires four language books
This ritual is a response to Golden Dawn's Lesser Banishing Rituals.  Except it is based on falseness and Principia's random language quotes.  I am not convinced that lbrp banishes, but rather invites weird spirits.  The permutation circle invites weirder spirits.

The contents of the ritual change on the 14th day of the season.   Or lazily betwixt 10th and 20th.   

To formulate ritual contents, first choose an item from a game having two words.  "Lamp of Darkness" for example.  Then select by dodecahedron four language books.  For this example I selected Telugu, Farsi, and Balinesian twice.

Next, take the first and last letters of each word, thus LPDS.  Roll to assign each letter to a language book.  Then search that language book in for a word of the selected letter.  Search for a word on the theme of the item, or a neutral word connecting to Erisian lore.  For this example I chose "lampu" (lamp bali), "pratiyuuSa" (daybreak telugu), "durughi" (false farsi), sandikala (dusk bali).  These are the entire contents.


The ritual of the Permutation Circle is as follows:  Sit and face towards an idol of focusing.  Say quickly "Lamp of Darkness".  Incant slowly "lampu, pratiyuuSa, lampu, durughi, lampu, sandikala".  Face towards the left, slowly incant: "pratiyuuSa , lampu, pratiyuuSa, durughi, pratiyuuSa, sandikala".  Use an entire breath for each word.  Face towards the back, slowly incant: "durughi, lampu, durughi, pratiyuuSa, durughi, sandikala".  Face towards the right, slowly incant: "sandikala, lampu, sandikala, pratiyuuSa, sandikala, durughi".  Face forewards again, stare upon focus idol, quickly say "Lamp of Darkness".


This ritual has a temporary, atheist, and ancient feeling.  Because it changes every season, uses obscure languages recklessly, and uses names of game items that would otherwise merely collect dust.


#51
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 03, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
Also, people with attitudes are one of the reasons to favor a hermit path.  I will use this emoticon to describe myself  :kingmeh:

The reality is, disconnecting from other people , in the context of occultism and chaos religion , allows for certain behaviors and experiences.  Staring into a religious verse until it becomes something else.  Principia Discordia is easier with this than other religions, because it doesnt have rules.  Unlike, for example, the Quran. 

There is a line in the Principia that says "we discordians must stick apart".  I did that.


Behaviors from being too isolated for a long time are like losing the ability to interact normally with people.  Here for example, my forum ability is severely atrophied from what it was years ago on other forums, both in my attitude and in the hardware.  I feel an utter lack of interest in correcting grammar.  The reason im just posting instead of taking the time to write book is because Year 23. 


Occultism is like , other people are always holding you down and telling you what you cannot do.  Removing other people allows for the silence and fear of being alone in haunted place.  Occultism has many rules that are actually wrong, and other people force these wrong rules.  Chaos religions can rewrite old rules.  Chaos religion can easily go past the boundries known by occultism into sketchier studies, without sin and without the loss of afterlife.  Thus other old lost religions open up and their ghosts seek the company of Chaos.

I think when Order becomes excessive and stops making sense, it is still Order but of a different kind.  Principia has a page about "expanded order" , "exploded order" etc.  There is a point where chaos becomes controlled.  Like a fire extinguisher, rerouting a river, riots selling out, freedom fighters turning into the people they are against.  I categorize this under Hung Mung. 

I think of Chaos and Order as mana in a gamer sense.  That is why I am generalizing factories and infrastructure as being creatures of Order. 
#52
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 03, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 02, 2023, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Tinfoilment on March 02, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
I haven't worked in a factory sector,.
Whereof you do not know, thereof you should not speak.

I will address this "im ok, youre not ok" statement.  First of all, I am a Discordian and this is a Discordian forum.  "Discordians should not talk about things they dont know much about."   The Principia Discordia is full of nonsense the authors didn't know much about, for example the mention of Solomonic magick with a wand guy pic.  I'm a wand guy talking about wand guy stuff.  Does it matter?  The Principia honors Emperor Norton, a man who was an illegitimate pretender to a throne of thrones.


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Also, gerrymandering carpetbaggers playing as Nosferatu clan in the cities.
Sentence fragment.

because shit matters

#53
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 03, 2023, 11:11:58 AM
Zirup Code


This is a scramble code from the comments in the llewellyn varsion of Agrippas Three Books, called "Rational Tziruph".   It looks similar to KMFDM and Enigma machine code.  It is easy to memorize.  I dont unscramble code, but I assume its easy.  Firstly split alphabet into two.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m
n o p q r s t u v w x y z

Use dice for odd and even.  Select top or bottom row.  Then select begin from right or left.  Roll from there to determine starting letter.  After this determine left or right direction of letters.  Then determine whether it bends or continues.  End result looks like this:

a b c d e f g h i j k l m
d c b a z y x w v u t s r

n o p q r s t u v w x y z
e f g h i j k l m n o p q


In teufenbriefs I just apply this to words that already have five letters.  Examples from this post: 
looks sfftj  ,  kmfdm tryar  ,  split jgsvk  ,  begin czxve  ,  there kwziz  ,  right ivxwk  ,  bends czeaj

Also capitalize all letters as per military tradition.
#54
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 02, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
Discordian Teufenbrief


Firstly, choose three books or papers.  From each, choose randomly a page with eyes closed, and point to a sentence.  Or dice roll to select page and sentence.  These three sentences are the basic structure of the text. I arrange six words per lindex card ine.  This is for space reasons.  Also, choose five index cards.  Each season make 5 teufens on the 50th day. 

Secondly, roll Docecahedron obtain a number.  Choose this many words as additives.  I prefer occult words.  Place these words into the text where they seem to belong. 

Third, affect the text with a variety of alterations.   I use the following:  reverse words, upside down words,  words written as randomly chosen runic script, words translated into randomly selected language, words eliminated as a blacked-out censorship block, words stretched to fit the entire index card line, words encypted as Zirup code, words kept normal and written in a different ink color.

Fourth, roll dice to choose a line on the index card to begin from.  I use three inks, one for the runic script, one for normal words, and one for everything else.  I use a black marker for the censorship blocks.  When this is complete, use a rubber stamper to stamp each censorship block.   After this, select one letter from a runic script.  Write this letter in a different color marker, very large, over the entire paragraph.

Fifth, flip the card to the back.  Here write the current season and year.  CHS23  ,  also write the current hour.   Then write the name of the current holiday using five letters from a randomly selected runic script.  This completes the material aspect of the teufenbrief.

Sixth, hold the teufenbrief using the left hand.  Make circles with the teufenbrief around a golden apple.  Do this 23 times.  Each time recite an epithet of Eris from memory.  This gives the teufenbrief a spirit aspect.  The teufenbrief can later be used as a ritual item, for burning or rubbing or hiding.
#55
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 02, 2023, 09:19:26 AM
Discordian Teufenbrief


Teufenbrief is a religious idea from grimoire "Pow-Wow: the long-lost friend".  It implies a cursed chain-letter.  The blessing counterpart is called Himmelsbrief.

I use this word entirely wrong.  Because Eris and devil are different things.  And its not a chain letter , but rather sacred cryptography for the 50th day.


My teufenbriefs require index cards, pens and markers, rubber stamps, runic scripts, and language books.  The end result is usually impressive. 


The reason for doing this is because the fun part of Halloween, Christmas, and Easter is decorating a tree, coloring eggs, and carving pumpkins.  I am against Discordianism devolving into family friendly, so "drug mathematician" idea.  Cryptography for Discoflux.


Rubber stamps and index cards are mentioned in the Principia. 
#56
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
March 02, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
My resume is the sort that anarchist propagandists would laugh about.  I haven't worked in a factory sector,.

Also, gerrymandering carpetbaggers playing as Nosferatu clan in the cities.  Gerrymandering is something special.  intentional Order is easier when the lines are kept short. 

I apologize for what might appear as forum illiteracy.  I am typing on touchscreen keyboard and have many computer problems.  I have a few more things to write and will slackfully post for the year until its done. 
#57
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
January 26, 2023, 10:38:02 AM

Sweet taste ,  Boom hearing , Pungent smell , Prickle-Prickle touch, Setting Orange sight
These are Atheist elements based on factual human experience. 

If the Principia Discordia seen as a puzzle document, prickle-prickle and setting orange have two words, while the seasons Discord and Confusion both have two apostles. 




#58
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
January 26, 2023, 10:17:12 AM
Some natural things of Order and Chaos for contemplation

cloud patterns, chaos
space nebula, chaos
cellular biology, chaos
forests that grow in the edges of parking lots, chaos

circuit boards, order
factory machinery, order
infrastructure, order

I think simple machines (lever pulley wedge screw incline) are easily accessable examples of Order that can be ported into everyday life. 
I think Chaos as an element is best described with clouds, therefore humidifiers. 




To the gaming industry.  The wizards described in games are basically Chemists.  Pepper spray is a fire spell of chemistry.  Ars Goetia does not produce any valid pyrotechnics that can be put to military use.  Describing sorcerers as chemists is unfair.  The military purpose of sorcerers is cryptography.  If games sold the ideas honestly, it would be like: "Level 7 Black Mage produces document that nobody every figures out until several hundred years later!  Ha ha!  Demonic spirit Barbados is actually the island of Barbados!"  "Wyvern slays Black Mage easily but never figures out the scribbled document."

Also, I think if the gaming industry connected sorcerers to the perfume industry, it would sort of make more sense.  I have not developed this idea much, except that most religions use some varieties of perfume.  Perfumes and essential oils are really a weird thing beyond the basic idea.  Hindu religion uses a lot of perfume, occult fumigations use weird perfume ingredients.  The technology for perfume gaming doesn't exist yet, but may exist soon. 


#59
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
January 26, 2023, 09:47:42 AM
About fictional things


I think of a person's fictional input as forming an individual ideology different from other people. The games, books, and movies that the enduser thinks about later.  Taking these fictional ideas, finding aspects that port easily into real life, and becoming weirder.  For example, Crowley talking about Alice in Wonderland, reading into it, weaving religious ideas with fiction.  Here the boundry between real life and fiction becomes something to pass through. The ancient Greek myths might have been entertainment tales that became religious temples.  DIY Religion draws upon fiction and creates deities from nothing.  The loss of knowledge, history, and worship returns deities to nothing.  A lesson of Discordianism is that humans really exist in the everyday world and have the power to create and destroy Gods.

#60
Principia Discussion / Re: Local 73rd Hermits Cabal
January 26, 2023, 09:31:58 AM
Also, I think it is good for people of chaos religions to hoard foreign language dictionaries.  The Principia Discordia has random foreign language sayings.  The downside of this is that this can be expensive.  Language dictionaries are a form of treasure, timeless, easily develop into side quests, a source of random foreign words.

I think of this as seperate from language scripts, but I use same idea of "true false and meaningless" with language dictionaries.  Dictionaries of the "true" sort are more common than "false" sort and  "meaningless" sort.


Honoring "false" in this context is about gamer things, Otherkin things, Atheist things, postal symbols, corporate symbols, Order things, artifacts, numerical things that have a life of their own.  I support sentient robots.

"true" in this context brings ordinary things into focus.  The boring names of towns, countries, flags, the borders of states, and occupied states.   Animals that exist in the everyday.

"Meaningless" of things being everything ancient and legendary, cryptids, things that were everyday but are no longer part of real life, spirit worlds, ancient places mentioned in religious documents, ancient things brought back into everyday use, religious things.


Applied to locations, this becomes ordinary place names "true", fictional location names "false", and spirit world names "meaningless".