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Title: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 14, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
Wasn't there the website "kregthornley.com"? If I recall correctly, there was some weird experimental music on it.. and some photos I don't remember.
The wayback machine sadly provides everything but the content: https://web.archive.org/web/20130601063855/http://kregthornley.com/
Can anyone provide a link to his works?
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
http://www.whale.to/b/wiolowa.html

You're welcome.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 04:29:21 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
http://www.whale.to/b/wiolowa.html

You're welcome.

Holy crap, BadBeast! How are ya?!
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 04:35:39 AM
This actually made my day, dude. Granted, the day in Boston is 38 minutes old, but it stands.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:36:53 AM
Well, I've been a lot worse. And it's not even 6 am yet, so the day has plenty of time to get it's shit together and get even better.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 04:39:51 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:36:53 AM
Well, I've been a lot worse. And it's not even 6 am yet, so the day has plenty of time to get it's shit together and get even better.

Glad you're better than worse. Welcome the fuck back dude!
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 04:48:35 AM
I see you've been knocking about here a little since at least March- sorry I've missed it, first semester back as a full time student, and in a science nonetheless, so I had no idea.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:10:49 AM
Facebook seems to have taken exception to my trolling the fuck out of them, and won't let me make any more accounts. At least, until I get a bunch more simcards to phone verify with. Even then, they must have my Mac# flagged, because every account I've made is getting suspended in a matter of hours, despite masking my IP. The "Criminalise Breastfeeding in Public Now" pages must have been the last straw. Militant Breastfeeders hit that FB report button with even more zeal than Anonynous do. And that's saying something. So I seem to have a lot more forums time on my hands atm.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:12:18 AM
So, lucky old PD eh?  :wink:
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
And thanks for the welcome. What kind of sciences am you studying? Do they go "bang" lots?
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 05:26:03 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
And thanks for the welcome. What kind of sciences am you studying? Do they go "bang" lots?

More than you would imagine, once sex evolved.

I'm going to be some sort of biologist. Nigel too, actually.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 05:27:40 AM
And shit, no probs dude. I'd've visited Wiltshire again just to chill with you (haven't been back in Europe since 2011, and only then for 3 days- funeral)
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 05:31:02 AM
I'd have gone over for numerous reasons, obviously, but I'd meet up for a beer in Salisbury, is what I mean.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on May 16, 2014, 05:26:03 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
And thanks for the welcome. What kind of sciences am you studying? Do they go "bang" lots?

More than you would imagine, once sex evolved.

I'm going to be some sort of biologist. Nigel too, actually.
Shows how out of touch with biology I am. So erm, remind me, what did sex evolve into again? Nothing too strenuous hopefully. I'm not as young as I once was.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
Also, what the fuck is Weltbruger on about? Hasn't he read Dan Brown's "Illuminatinous"? It quite clearly implies that Kreg Thornley changed his name to "Bill Drummond so he could sell Ice Cream, make records with Tammy Wynternette, and take loads of Ketamine.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 06:05:57 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
Also, what the fuck is Weltbruger on about? Hasn't he read Dan Brown's "Illuminatinous"? It quite clearly implies that Kreg Thornley changed his name to "Bill Drummond so he could sell Ice Cream, make records with Tammy Wynternette, and take loads of Ketamine.

Damned if I know. Thread's about you now, since I'm pretty sure that will be a more popular topic.

Sex is nothing more than exchanging genetic information. Even bacteria do it, they just don't have cocks or poons. The just kinda shoot their cell walls at each other.  Our method is preferable, both sensation-wise and the fact that we don't reproduce often enough to rely on mutation (seriously, bacteria reproduce every 20 minutes.)
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on May 16, 2014, 06:05:57 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
Also, what the fuck is Weltbruger on about? Hasn't he read Dan Brown's "Illuminatinous"? It quite clearly implies that Kreg Thornley changed his name to "Bill Drummond so he could sell Ice Cream, make records with Tammy Wynternette, and take loads of Ketamine.

Damned if I know. Thread's about you now, since I'm pretty sure that will be a more popular topic.

Sex is nothing more than exchanging genetic information. Even bacteria do it, they just don't have cocks or poons. The just kinda shoot their cell walls at each other.  Our method is preferable, both sensation-wise and the fact that we don't reproduce often enough to rely on mutation (seriously, bacteria reproduce every 20 minutes.)
sO TECHNICALLY, THE FIRST EVER SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM THAT EVER (sssh!) developed a semi permeable cell membrain, and decided to split, is still floating around somewhere, (Or ast least, half of it is) in the prime orgasmal soup, so often denied and derided by Young Earth Probationists. And your figures (although at first glance, quite believable) will need citations please. Even I find it hard to complete an act of reproduction every twenty minutes, and I'm far more involved than a stupid germ, or whatever.

But if you ARE going to be doing "science", why not do a more useful one than sitting round watching porn and speculating about . . .promiscuous germs having unsafe sex?  Why not see if you can replace the Iron age technology that's in our red blood cells, with photo-reactive chlorophyll based cells, with proper cell walls instead of leaky old membranes, then maybe we could solve the World's food crisis by photosynthesising all our energy needs. It would also cure us all of being racialists, because we'd all be of one colour. (Probably some variant of green)

On the minus side, Bono would almost definitely try to get involved, because of the potential for shameless self-promotion, tax deductable "Aids donations" simply for being the richest narcissist in (Or rather, NOT in) all of Oireland, and (most importantly) flooding his carefully chosen and targetted demographic with shitty charity records, usually in collaboration with another old, shit rock has been, like Elton John or ex-Beetle, Stella McCartney. That way, once everyone realises what a poile of ol' shoite it is, he'll have some other poor senile fucker to blame, While he flys his massive "administrative re-numeration fee" out of the way, on the same Jumbo jet he uses to transport his "lucky" Hat and Sunglasses to his Seafront residence in the Cayman Islands. Cunt.

In other news, The Boomtown Rats are playing in a Village Pub near me at the end of the month. And yes, it IS for charity, but you don't see Bob "give us yer fookin' money" Geldof begging in the streets like Bono would have been. (If Geldof wasn't wise to his tricks already)

If (as I do) you feel sufficient loathing for Bonio (Out of U2) and his massive all consuming ego, you might like to leave a crassly insensitive comment on our commemorative facebook page called "R.I.P Bono" or some shit like that (I can't get you a link because those cunts at Faecebork BANNED ME FOR LIKE, EVAR!)

There's a touchingly hilarious poem about how much I'm going to miss him now that he's in Heaven posted there, but I can't re-post it here, for the reasons stated above. Oh my mistake, I outsmarted them by losing my login for that account (and the email address associated with it) BEFORE they suspended me. I seem to have wandered off topic at some point during this post, and I really cant be arsed to scroll up and see what worthy subject I'm attention whoring all over. Also, I'd like to assure Beltwerger that I would be more than happy to offer my sincerest apologies for this act of wanton thread abuse. (Or would, If only I gave a fuck, that is)  And at least I spelled his name correctly ONCE during this post.

And actually bothered to take the time and trouble to fucking lie about it. (No, no Welty, please don't thank me, I was happy to do this, it really was no trouble) Right. I'm going fishing now, and it's such a nice day that I don't even care if I don't catch anything. So I won't even need to buy any bait. L8rz Pertayters,  :lulz: (I've fuckin' missed these emotes on facebook, so I might be forgiven for spamposting thousands of them in their own thread, right?)  :roll: :argh!: :lulz: Or even just 3 of them.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 16, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
I get the whole thread hijacking thing, that's cool. But doing so using Bono? Seriously, you just crossed a line here. This is not facebook.

Btw, I've found Kreg's mp3s on an old hard disk of mine. Does anyone know anything about his stance on copyrights? I'd like to upload and post his work here, as it doesn't seem to be available anywhere publicly.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 11:46:37 AM
He's cool about the whole thing. Use whatever you like to do whatever with. I just spoke to his people, and he firmly rejects all ideas of "ownership".
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 16, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Very good, BadBeast, your post goes right on the fridge.

I wouldn't want to get the forum owners in trouble by uploading copyrighted material. On Kreg's website it explicitly says "Copyright", that's why I ask. Anyone?
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: Weltbürger (NSFW) on May 16, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Very good, BadBeast, your post goes right on the fridge.

I wouldn't want to get the forum owners in trouble by uploading copyrighted material. On Kreg's website it explicitly says "Copyright", that's why I ask. Anyone?
Well if you already saw his notice, why do you ask if anyone here knew better?
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 16, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
Well if you already saw his notice, why do you ask if anyone here knew better?

Because lots of artists put the "Copyright" tag on their site to avoid future unforeseen problems, even if they don't mind people uploading their work somewhere and giving them credit.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 02:20:29 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on May 16, 2014, 06:05:57 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
Also, what the fuck is Weltbruger on about? Hasn't he read Dan Brown's "Illuminatinous"? It quite clearly implies that Kreg Thornley changed his name to "Bill Drummond so he could sell Ice Cream, make records with Tammy Wynternette, and take loads of Ketamine.

Damned if I know. Thread's about you now, since I'm pretty sure that will be a more popular topic.

Sex is nothing more than exchanging genetic information. Even bacteria do it, they just don't have cocks or poons. The just kinda shoot their cell walls at each other.  Our method is preferable, both sensation-wise and the fact that we don't reproduce often enough to rely on mutation (seriously, bacteria reproduce every 20 minutes.)
sO TECHNICALLY, THE FIRST EVER SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM THAT EVER (sssh!) developed a semi permeable cell membrain, and decided to split, is still floating around somewhere, (Or ast least, half of it is) in the prime orgasmal soup, so often denied and derided by Young Earth Probationists. And your figures (although at first glance, quite believable) will need citations please. Even I find it hard to complete an act of reproduction every twenty minutes, and I'm far more involved than a stupid germ, or whatever.

But if you ARE going to be doing "science", why not do a more useful one than sitting round watching porn and speculating about . . .promiscuous germs having unsafe sex?  Why not see if you can replace the Iron age technology that's in our red blood cells, with photo-reactive chlorophyll based cells, with proper cell walls instead of leaky old membranes, then maybe we could solve the World's food crisis by photosynthesising all our energy needs. It would also cure us all of being racialists, because we'd all be of one colour. (Probably some variant of green)

On the minus side, Bono would almost definitely try to get involved, because of the potential for shameless self-promotion, tax deductable "Aids donations" simply for being the richest narcissist in (Or rather, NOT in) all of Oireland, and (most importantly) flooding his carefully chosen and targetted demographic with shitty charity records, usually in collaboration with another old, shit rock has been, like Elton John or ex-Beetle, Stella McCartney. That way, once everyone realises what a poile of ol' shoite it is, he'll have some other poor senile fucker to blame, While he flys his massive "administrative re-numeration fee" out of the way, on the same Jumbo jet he uses to transport his "lucky" Hat and Sunglasses to his Seafront residence in the Cayman Islands. Cunt.

In other news, The Boomtown Rats are playing in a Village Pub near me at the end of the month. And yes, it IS for charity, but you don't see Bob "give us yer fookin' money" Geldof begging in the streets like Bono would have been. (If Geldof wasn't wise to his tricks already)

If (as I do) you feel sufficient loathing for Bonio (Out of U2) and his massive all consuming ego, you might like to leave a crassly insensitive comment on our commemorative facebook page called "R.I.P Bono" or some shit like that (I can't get you a link because those cunts at Faecebork BANNED ME FOR LIKE, EVAR!)

There's a touchingly hilarious poem about how much I'm going to miss him now that he's in Heaven posted there, but I can't re-post it here, for the reasons stated above. Oh my mistake, I outsmarted them by losing my login for that account (and the email address associated with it) BEFORE they suspended me. I seem to have wandered off topic at some point during this post, and I really cant be arsed to scroll up and see what worthy subject I'm attention whoring all over. Also, I'd like to assure Beltwerger that I would be more than happy to offer my sincerest apologies for this act of wanton thread abuse. (Or would, If only I gave a fuck, that is)  And at least I spelled his name correctly ONCE during this post.

And actually bothered to take the time and trouble to fucking lie about it. (No, no Welty, please don't thank me, I was happy to do this, it really was no trouble) Right. I'm going fishing now, and it's such a nice day that I don't even care if I don't catch anything. So I won't even need to buy any bait. L8rz Pertayters,  :lulz: (I've fuckin' missed these emotes on facebook, so I might be forgiven for spamposting thousands of them in their own thread, right?)  :roll: :argh!: :lulz: Or even just 3 of them.

:lulz:

So, photosynthesis-  it's not efficient enough, believe it or not. At least for animal energy requirements. Plants get away with it because they're sedentary. The main issue is surface area. Leaves are thin because after a certain point, there's no point in them getting thicker since light's not going to penetrate that deep. If we were able to photosynthesize light in the radiowave range, possibly? But you more or less gotta work with what you're given if you're going to biohack.

Bacterial replication:

http://extension.missouri.edu/fnep/bacterialgrowth.pdf
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
The original cell, incidentally, died when it reproduced. However, I have wondered here and there whether or not the two original strands of DNA are still knocking about in some germ. Probably not though, something probably ate it at some point.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: Weltbürger (NSFW) on May 16, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
Well if you already saw his notice, why do you ask if anyone here knew better?

Because lots of artists put the "Copyright" tag on their site to avoid future unforeseen problems, even if they don't mind people uploading their work somewhere and giving them credit.
Right, I see your dilemma. It really boils down to trust. If you really have respect for his work, and value his artistic or whatever talent, why would you not take his word on such a simple unambiguous statement of copyright? I think you must have some serious issues of trust, clouding your otherwise fairly astute and functional process. But I'm not a Doctor or anything, so you might like to take this to a real qualified Dr of Pathological Neuroses or some shit like that.

Or why not just take what you want, do whatever with it, and if he finds out, and takes exception to what you've done, you can eithert apologise and take it down, or have him killed. Just trying to help here. Maybe start a thread somewhere else, and ask for some advice. People are more willing to help than we sometimes think.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on May 16, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
The original cell, incidentally, died when it reproduced. However, I have wondered here and there whether or not the two original strands of DNA are still knocking about in some germ. Probably not though, something probably ate it at some point.
When a single celled organism divides, surely it results in two seperate organisms? Otherwise, what's the point of anything? We may as well just all lie down on the floor and stay there, and hope everthing turns out OK.

But we know it's not going to happen right? Not while we're laid around feeling sorry for ourselves, simply because our distant ancestors shared a few cells around. So what? I'm over it already. They should just chalk it up to experience, or evolution, and move on.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 16, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Ållnephew Tvýðleþøn on May 16, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
The original cell, incidentally, died when it reproduced. However, I have wondered here and there whether or not the two original strands of DNA are still knocking about in some germ. Probably not though, something probably ate it at some point.
When a single celled organism divides, surely it results in two seperate organisms? Otherwise, what's the point of anything? We may as well just all lie down on the floor and stay there, and hope everthing turns out OK.

But we know it's not going to happen right? Not while we're laid around feeling sorry for ourselves, simply because our distant ancestors shared a few cells around. So what? I'm over it already. They should just chalk it up to experience, or evolution, and move on.

Yep- thing is though, when you get two daughter cells, you can't say which one split off and which one's the original. Neither of them are. The individual existence of the original one came to an end.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 16, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:10:49 AM
Facebook seems to have taken exception to my trolling the fuck out of them, and won't let me make any more accounts. At least, until I get a bunch more simcards to phone verify with. Even then, they must have my Mac# flagged, because every account I've made is getting suspended in a matter of hours, despite masking my IP. The "Criminalise Breastfeeding in Public Now" pages must have been the last straw. Militant Breastfeeders hit that FB report button with even more zeal than Anonynous do. And that's saying something. So I seem to have a lot more forums time on my hands atm.

I doubt that they are blocking your MAC address, as it's not very likely that they can even see it. You did clear your cookies and shit, right?
Also, Flash Player cache, did you disable/clear it? https://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
Also, DOM storage, did you disable/clear it? http://webdevwonders.com/clear-dom-storage/
The IP address you are using to mask your own, it doesn't stay the same all the time, does it? And it's not a Tor exit node, is it? If you hide your IP address only not to get blocked (as opposed to staying anonymous), I suggest using VPN.
if you want to see how unique your browser's fingerprint is, here you go: https://panopticlick.eff.org/
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
I doubted my Mac# was flagged too, but on advice, (And as a process of elimination) I  used a "Hide my Mac" software trial. The three accounts I made when it was running lasted as long as the trial did, then all three went down in four to seven days after it ran out. Apparently there's a "strikes" flagging system being used at FB, that allows you a certain number of valid reports, over an undisclosed period, then it flags repeat offenders with some algorithm that uses your session cookies, IP, and any connected email addresses to keep track of your activity. Temporary bans then have to be re-validated with a mobile phone (Instead of just an email)

If the offending patterns persist, or escalate, the Mac# of the device you made the account with is flagged, and you start getting "no warning" account suspensions on the grounds of Facebook being a "place where everyone knows the person they're connected to is a real person".  :roll:

So before you can re-activate your account, you need to send them scans of your ID, which has to be Government issued, including some photo ID like a driving licence. And it's hard to get convincing ID for someone called something like "Irma Reet-Aardkvnt" or "Faye Kinnit". (I don't even have ID for my really real life alter) I think you can still make accounts using a mobile device after a home PC gets flagged, because it takes your device's Mac along with your router's. 

I've had to get someone to make me an account from another Country a few times before, and that carries a whole other set of complications, (once the heat's on) and I spent about six months (according to FB) living in first Islamabad, then Calcutta. My tech skills aren't exactly "l33t haxxor" (as some of you may know) but the crew I've been bumping around with are mostly first gen oldfag ex anons, and seem to know all kinds of fucking Witchcraft re: Running rings around any of the laughably inept troll crews and FB anon groups, so I generally get good advice, but FB have been beefing up security recently, and having pogroms of troll groups and pages, so it gets hard staying one step ahead of them. But it keeps me off the streets, and entertained. It does tend to use up all my forum time though. Which is why I've been a bit less active anywhere other than FB for months on end.

Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 07:57:20 PM
 But a VPN is next on my list. I can't make accounts from a Tor node, but once they're made, I can (or used to be able to) log in from one. But it takes fucking ages to connect to tabs and pages using Tor. And I believe they have some kind of browser jumping super cookie anyway that links your tor browser activity with any other activity from your machine. I don't know, it's just fucking Facebook people, what's their problem with a bit of harmless trolling?   :evil:
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 17, 2014, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 07:57:20 PM
And I believe they have some kind of browser jumping super cookie anyway that links your tor browser activity with any other activity from your machine

If they had something like that, why would they decide to block registration from tor ips? Maybe some less known anonymity services would work? For example JAP (http://jap.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html) or i2p (http://geti2p.net/en/). You could try getting them blocked too.

Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2014, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
http://www.whale.to/b/wiolowa.html

You're welcome.

We trolled the shit out of her forum, back in the day.  The day being circa 2007, or something.  It was AMAZING.  HIMEOBS is now officially an arm of the Reptilian Conspiracy.

In regards to MAC numbers, it sounds plausible.  The Anonymous /i/nsurgents used to have a wiki with links to all their useful tools, including one which could permamently change your MAC number as I recall.  I wouldn't know where to find such a thing now, but unless something has changed in the last couple of years, changing it should be very possible.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: LMNO on May 17, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
Oh yeah, I remember that!  It was kind of amazing.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 18, 2014, 12:32:40 AM
AHO WIO
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: bugmenоt on May 18, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2014, 04:23:55 PM
In regards to MAC numbers, it sounds plausible.  The Anonymous /i/nsurgents used to have a wiki with links to all their useful tools, including one which could permamently change your MAC number as I recall.  I wouldn't know where to find such a thing now, but unless something has changed in the last couple of years, changing it should be very possible.

Source? MAC addresses are hardcoded and can't be changed without immense effort, not even if you manage to do a firmware upgrade afaik. You can, of course, make your OS believe that its network adapter has another MAC address. Your OS will then use this fake address to communicate with your router. You can then automate this process so that your fake address (or a random one) will be set on each reboot (otherwise your original address will again be set on next boot). And then what? A webserver you're visiting doesn't normally see your MAC address. By design, only your ISP is required to see your router's (and only your router's) MAC address. Anything else happens by accident or by exploitation of vulnerabilities. Now let's say FB knows one of these vulnerabilities:
- If they were able to see your router's MAC address, any change to your network adapter's MAC address would be useless in terms of hiding your identity
- If they were able to see your network adapter's MAC address, they wouldn't waste that exploit on some trolls. I mean, would you? If the exploit becomes public, it loses much of its worth.
As I said before: If they had a long-term possiblilty to identity tor users, they wouldn't deem it necessary to block registrations from tor exit nodes.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on May 18, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 05:10:49 AM
Facebook seems to have taken exception to my trolling the fuck out of them, and won't let me make any more accounts. At least, until I get a bunch more simcards to phone verify with. Even then, they must have my Mac# flagged, because every account I've made is getting suspended in a matter of hours, despite masking my IP. The "Criminalise Breastfeeding in Public Now" pages must have been the last straw. Militant Breastfeeders hit that FB report button with even more zeal than Anonynous do. And that's saying something. So I seem to have a lot more forums time on my hands atm.


An easy way to test if it's your MAC address (https://tails.boum.org/doc/first_steps/startup_options/mac_spoofing/index.en.html):

1. Download Linux TAILS (https://tails.boum.org/index.en.html) and burn the image to an optical disk.
2. Boot your computer from the optical drive (via BIOS settings on a PC or EFI boot manager software for an Apple).
3. MAC spoofing is now enabled by default.
4. ?
5. PROFIT
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 25, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
Lot of good advice there chaps. (I've lost another 2 fb accounts since I last posted) I'm going to to try that Tails thing Net, (assuming I've got enough ram to run it) I have an account I've not logged into yet, made by someone else on another device, and as soon as I've got tails running, I'll see how that goes. I'll keep you posted. Sorry for jacking your thread Welty. Love you guys . . .   
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on May 25, 2014, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2014, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on May 16, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
http://www.whale.to/b/wiolowa.html

You're welcome.

We trolled the shit out of her forum, back in the day.  The day being circa 2007, or something.  It was AMAZING.  HIMEOBS is now officially an arm of the Reptilian Conspiracy.

In regards to MAC numbers, it sounds plausible.  The Anonymous /i/nsurgents used to have a wiki with links to all their useful tools, including one which could permamently change your MAC number as I recall.  I wouldn't know where to find such a thing now, but unless something has changed in the last couple of years, changing it should be very possible.
Yeah, I think all my problems on facebook started because I've been seriously trolling facebook anons. A lot has changed with anonymous in the last couple of years, anyone with any savvy who was associated with them seems to have left them in disgust, leaving legion thrashing about like a headless chicken. We've been running bait pages in facebook (to much hilarity) and the only "skills" they have run to pressing the report button on facebook.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on June 06, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
 Update.
On XP, I found you can spoof your mac# by installing a VPN, then going into the properties of your network bridge, and just changing the mac numbers yourself. However, when I logged out of my VPN to do some file transfers to our server at wearebty.org, I made the mistake of leaving one tab logged into facebook, and within a minute of switching the VPN off, I lost another facebook account.

Logging out of the VPN didn't change my mac# back, so I've come to the conclusion that a VPN is the way to go. Also, I found out since, that facebook uses session cookies to throw security verification blocks on flagged accounts.

And that if you use a Chromium browser like Chrome, or Torch, you can set up different user accounts within the browser, each with it's own cache of session cookies. So using a VPN, and a Torch browser, I've managed to keep an unverified facebook sock account for nearly a week. (The last 17 accounts I've made, lasted 2 days at the most)

Not bad, seeing as I only learned how to set up a VPN about 10 days ago, and only ever heard of mac#s for the first time about three weeks ago. I'm currently learning html too, from some top coders, so yay, go me!
8)
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 07, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
Giving our red blood cells proper cell walls would be an excruciatingly but quick way to die.
I approve, someone start developing it ASAP.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
WIO is genuinely crazy.  That didn't stop me from trolling before, but it does now.

I blame Nigel.  I didn't used to be this much of a biped.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: BadBeast on June 10, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
WIO is genuinely crazy.  That didn't stop me from trolling before, but it does now.

I blame Nigel.  I didn't used to be this much of a biped.
It hasn't affected my trolling, but it sure as sunny Hell stopped me from looking too hard for Reptoids. Because "Seek, and ye shall find" was never more relevant. In a "this is what happens when you Icke up your wetware" kinda way.
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 10, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
WIO is genuinely crazy.  That didn't stop me from trolling before, but it does now.

I blame Nigel.  I didn't used to be this much of a biped.
It hasn't affected my trolling, but it sure as sunny Hell stopped me from looking too hard for Reptoids. Because "Seek, and ye shall find" was never more relevant. In a "this is what happens when you Icke up your wetware" kinda way.

:lulz:
Title: Re: What about Kreg Thornley?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 10, 2014, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
WIO is genuinely crazy.  That didn't stop me from trolling before, but it does now.

I blame Nigel.  I didn't used to be this much of a biped.

:)