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#1
Or Kill Me / Revolution
April 04, 2004, 02:45:26 AM
Quote from: EvilPoetJust out of curiosity, from where? Here?

No, I copied it from the actual book.
#2
Or Kill Me / Revolution
April 04, 2004, 01:09:00 AM
The Only Way to Have a Successful Revolution in Any Field of Human Activity

For what it is worth: Paul Slazinger claims to have learned from history that most people cannot open their minds to new ideas unless a mind-opening team with a peculiar membership goes to work on them. Otherwise, life will go on exactly as before, no matter how painful, unrealistic, unjust, ludicrous , or downright dumb life may be.

The team must consist of three sorts of specialists, he says. Otherwise, the revolution, whether in politics or the arts or the sciences or whatever, is sure to fail.

The rarest of these specialists, he says, is an authentic genius ,Äì a person capable of having seemingly good ideas not in general circulation. "A genius working alone," he says, "is invariably ignored as a lunatic."

The second sort of specialist is a lot easier to find: a highly intelligent citizen in good standing in his or her community, who understands and admires the fresh ideas of the genius, and who testifies that the genius is far from mad. "A person like that working alone," says Slazinger, "can only yearn out loud for changes, but fail to say what their shapes should be."

The third sort of specialist is a person who can explain anything, not matter how complicated, to the satisfaction of most people, no matter how stupid or pig-headed  they may be. "He will say almost anything in order to be interesting and exciting," says Slazinger. "Working alone, depending solely on his own shallow ideas, he would be regarded as being as full of shit as a Christmas turkey."

Slazinger says that every successful revolution, including Abstract Expressionism, had that cast of characters at the top ,Äì Pollock being the genius in that case, Lenin being the one in Russia's, Christ being the one in Christianity's. He says that if you can't get a cast like that together, you can forget changing anything in a great big way.


*shamelessly plagiarized
#3
Or Kill Me / The Fire Sermon
April 03, 2004, 11:43:02 PM
The river's tent is broken: the last fingers of leaf
Clutch and sink into the wet bank. The wind
Crosses the brown land, unheard. The nymphs are departed.
Sweet Thames, run softly, till I end my song.
The river bears no empty bottles, sandwich papers,
Silk handkerchiefs, cardboard boxes, cigarette ends
Or other testimony of summer nights. The nymphs are departed.
And their friends, the loitering heirs of city directors;
Departed, have left no addresses.

By the waters of Leman I sat down and wept . . .
Sweet Thames, run softly till I end my song,
Sweet Thames, run softly, for I speak not loud or long.
But at my back in a cold blast I hear
The rattle of the bones, and chuckle spread from ear to ear.
A rat crept softly through the vegetation
Dragging its slimy belly on the bank
While I was fishing in the dull canal
On a winter evening round behind the gashouse
Musing upon the king my brother's wreck
And on the king my father's death before him.
White bodies naked on the low damp ground
And bones cast in a little low dry garret,
Rattled by the rat's foot only, year to year.
But at my back from time to time I hear
The sound of horns and motors, which shall bring
Sweeney to Mrs. Porter in the spring.
O the moon shone bright on Mrs. Porter
And on her daughter
They wash their feet in soda water
Et O ces voix d'enfants, chantant dans la coupole!

Twit twit twit
Jug jug jug jug jug jug
So rudely forc'd.
Tereu

Unreal City
Under the brown fog of a winter noon
Mr. Eugenides, the Smyrna merchant
Unshaven, with a pocket full of currants
C.i.f. London: documents at sight,
Asked me in demotic French
To luncheon at the Cannon Street Hotel
Followed by a weekend at the Metropole.

At the violet hour, when the eyes and back
Turn upward from the desk, when the human engine waits
Like a taxi throbbing waiting,
I Tiresias, though blind, throbbing between two lives,
Old man with wrinkled female breasts, can see
At the violet hour, the evening hour that strives
Homeward, and brings the sailor home from sea,
The typist home at teatime, clears her breakfast, lights
Her stove, and lays out food in tins.
Out of the window perilously spread
Her drying combinations touched by the sun's last rays,
On the divan are piled (at night her bed)
Stockings, slippers, camisoles, and stays.
I Tiresias, old man with wrinkled dugs
Perceived the scene, and foretold the rest--
I too awaited the expected guest. 
He, the young man carbuncular, arrives,
A small house agent's clerk, with one bold stare,
One of the low on whom assurance sits
As a silk hat on a Bradford millionaire.
The time is now propitious, as he guesses,
The meal is ended, she is bored and tired,
Endeavours to engage her in caresses
Which still are unreproved, if undesired.
Flushed and decided, he assaults at once;
Exploring hands encounter no defence;
His vanity requires no response,
And makes a welcome of indifference.
(And I Tiresias have foresuffered all
Enacted on this same divan or bed;
I who have sat by Thebes below the wall
And walked among the lowest of the dead.)
Bestows one final patronising kiss,
And gropes his way, finding the stairs unlit . . .

She turns and looks a moment in the glass,
Hardly aware of her departed lover;
Her brain allows one half-formed thought to pass:
"Well now that's done: and I'm glad it's over."
When lovely woman stoops to folly and
Paces about her room again, alone,
She smoothes her hair with automatic hand,
And puts a record on the gramophone.

"This music crept by me upon the waters"
And along the Strand, up Queen Victoria Street.
O City city, I can sometimes hear
Beside a public bar in Lower Thames Street,
The pleasant whining of a mandoline
And a clatter and a chatter from within
Where fishmen lounge at noon: where the walls
Of Magnus Martyr hold
Inexplicable splendour of Ionian white and gold.

     The river sweats
     Oil and tar
     The barges drift
     With the turning tide
     Red sails
     Wide
     To leeward, swing on the heavy spar.
     The barges wash
     Drifting logs
     Down Greenwich reach
     Past the Isle of Dogs.
          Weialala leia
          Wallala leialala

     Elizabeth and Leicester
     Beating oars
     The stern was formed
     A gilded shell
     Red and gold
     The brisk swell
     Rippled both shores
     Southwest wind
     Carried down stream
     The peal of bells
     White towers
          Weialala leia
          Wallala leialala

"Trams and dusty trees.
Highbury bore me. Richmond and Kew
Undid me. By Richmond I raised my knees
Supine on the floor of a narrow canoe."

"My feet are at Moorgate, and my heart
Under my feet. After the event
He wept. He promised 'a new start'.
I made no comment. What should I resent?"
"On Margate Sands.
I can connect
Nothing with nothing.
The broken fingernails of dirty hands.
My people humble people who expect
Nothing."
     la la

To Carthage then I came
Burning burning burning burning
O Lord Thou pluckest me out
O Lord Thou pluckest

burning
#4
Or Kill Me / surrender.
April 02, 2004, 03:15:40 AM
I wish I still had a "beer thirty" on my clock. Now I've got "zero-dark-thirty"
#5
Or Kill Me / surrender.
March 30, 2004, 03:23:26 AM
That was an album by the Chemical Brothers.
#6
Literate Chaotic / Discordian Essential Reading List
March 28, 2004, 11:35:48 PM
Randroids are anti-Discordians for a few reasons.
Mainly, Rand put forth a rigid mathematical logic as her sole epistemology. A = A, non-contradiction, etc.
Discordianism says that A = whatever you want it to equal, and self-contradiction is a beautiful thing.
Rand confined her world-view to strict materialism. Very, very anti-chaos.
#7
Literate Chaotic / Discordian Essential Reading List
March 28, 2004, 11:00:11 PM
(note, this is not necessarily essential)

Principia Discordia (DUH)
The Illuminatus! Trilogy
The Crying of Lot 49
Gravity's Rainbow
(if you can make it through)
The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged (just so you know what true anti-discordianism looks like)
Lovecraft's fiction


add on!
#8
Literate Chaotic / Ask Bella
March 23, 2004, 01:17:22 AM
postcount++;
#9
Or Kill Me / HA
March 21, 2004, 04:37:48 AM
postcount++;
#10
Quote from: St. Hugh, KSCI claim Sedna for all of Discordia!

I claim you, for all of Sedna!
#11
Literate Chaotic / hermann hesse
March 21, 2004, 03:10:23 AM
For a nicely cynical view of Herman Hesse's writings and his popularity, I recommend "Why They Read Hesse" an essay by Kurt Vonnegut (found in the Wampeters, Foma, and Granfaloons book.

(does it count as a zombie thread if it's still on the front page?)
#12
Literate Chaotic / Terry Pratchett
March 21, 2004, 03:07:09 AM
I recommend Small Gods as the best TP starting point. It requires no knowledge of the rest of the Discworld books, but introduces the reader quite well. Then I'd get Men at Arms.
#13
Literate Chaotic / Hakim Bey
March 21, 2004, 03:04:55 AM
Maybe Jacko's got a cerebral inhibitor when he's in human form, as not to give away any alien characteristics until his final unveiling.
#14
Quote from: Spoon E. Geeno it was... 72% of all statistics are false..

Only 65% of people know that.
#15
Literate Chaotic / Hakim Bey
March 21, 2004, 03:02:54 AM
perhaps Hakim Bey is Michael Jackson!