Last thing before bed
My attack of THE HOLIES might have gotten me a writing gig
Tomorrow it begins
I was subtly asked to provide More Future, All Bad, and The Words Of The Priestess Of The Rancid Meats
I have been informed I Am The Story and thus from here on out my damage is under NDA
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?
We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.
Pretty please.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 10:41:03 PM
It's an annoyance, mostly because I kind of have to leave all the intake business to Cain, whom I imagine has other things that need doing.
But in your own time, Faust, as it is only an annoyance.
Ah, 4 clicks and it's all gone. It's not that much work. As you say, it's more of an annoyance.
Quote from: Faust on November 20, 2019, 11:50:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 10:41:03 PM
It's an annoyance, mostly because I kind of have to leave all the intake business to Cain, whom I imagine has other things that need doing.
But in your own time, Faust, as it is only an annoyance.
Instead of deleting them, banning them works too, if its @viagraspam.com or something can ban with rule *@viagraspam and that will stop any more from there
That's what I've been doing. It's just as quick as actually banning them, and it will (hopefully, eventually) reduce the number of signups down the line.
Quote from: The Johnny on November 21, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?
We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.
Pretty please.
Shut the fuck up, shitneck.
Did that help?
Quote from: The Johnny on November 21, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?
We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.
Pretty please.
This is a "heat death of PD" thing. Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.
Facebook sucked all the energy out of independent websites. :sad:
Facebook is dark energy
The internet is expanding
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2019, 03:51:57 PM
Facebook sucked all the energy out of independent websites. :sad:
There are about two that are still cooking. I can provide links when I get home.
Quote from: nullified on November 21, 2019, 03:53:04 PM
Facebook is dark energy
The internet is expanding
This is where the FBP jokes start, right?
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:13:59 PM
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........
Whoops. Edited your post instead of responding:
Update: It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.
Thanks, PACNW.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 10:21:51 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:13:59 PM
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........
Whoops. Edited your post instead of responding:
Update: It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.
Thanks, PACNW.
DA MODZ ARE DRUNK WIF POWER!!!
EAT THEM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 21, 2019, 10:43:58 PM
EAT THEM
what makes you think I haven't?
Because if you ate Cain you would shortly thereafter stop existing, courtesy of satellite coordinated bombardment
Quote from: nullified on November 21, 2019, 10:46:29 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 21, 2019, 10:43:58 PM
EAT THEM
what makes you think I haven't?
Because if you ate Cain you would shortly thereafter stop existing, courtesy of satellite coordinated bombardment
I think we're talking about different things.
Probably.
Butthole = Brexit'ed
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 10:21:51 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:13:59 PM
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........
Whoops. Edited your post instead of responding:
Update: It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.
Thanks, PACNW.
You're welcome. It's been beautiful here, not warm, but not cold, and sunny. We didn't steal your weather though, cause it's colder than Tucson ever really gets, just shipped you ours.
Quote from: TrivialQ on November 21, 2019, 05:02:18 AM
Speaking of reality, I somehow missed the fact that Gene Ray died.
I mourn his passing with every 4 simultaneous rotations of the earth
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on November 21, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?
We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.
Pretty please.
This is a "heat death of PD" thing. Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.
Yeah, and it's not like Facebook is BETTER
I do miss longform posts, interesting threads, being on a site where people worked to build fun topics for each other
I feel like we've all survived some shit together
Every so often I'll press the "new thread" button and try to come up with something here, but then Cate Blanchett's voice comes in and says "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in deez nuts" and I realize that there is a secret ring---a secret NFL ring, from the secret superbowl. And we missed it. But we missed it together. Fnord.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on November 21, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?
We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.
Pretty please.
This is a "heat death of PD" thing. Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.
Yeah, and it's not like Facebook is BETTER
I do miss longform posts, interesting threads, being on a site where people worked to build fun topics for each other
I feel like we've all survived some shit together
Every so often I'll press the "new thread" button and try to come up with something here, but then Cate Blanchett's voice comes in and says "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in deez nuts" and I realize that there is a secret ring---a secret NFL ring, from the secret superbowl. And we missed it. But we missed it together. Fnord.
FB is fine for torquing people up, but I am currently halfway through a ban and I'm okay with it.
Last night, I was playing D&D with my D&D friends and it occurred to me that none of them are on facebook.
So when I talk to them, they are not "caught up" on whatever's going on, and I get to tell them stuff IN PERSON. Which is cool! Who does that??
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:09:02 PM
Last night, I was playing D&D with my D&D friends and it occurred to me that none of them are on facebook.
So when I talk to them, they are not "caught up" on whatever's going on, and I get to tell them stuff IN PERSON. Which is cool! Who does that??
The more I'm caught up on things, the dumber and more unhappy I am, and I want to share that feeling with others.
FB is perfect for that.
But the funny thing:
As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing. Signal dropped. Okay.
As FB gets older, people are more and more prone to "Like" and "Share" things without comment. So you get a pic of the President violating the Mann Act with a possum, and suddenly that pic is EVERYWHERE, and nobody knows the reason WHY the president was fucking a possum. FB *also* proves the Churchill Principle: A lies runs around the world before the truth can get its pants on. This has allowed
absolute polarization on things like Brexit, the impeachment, and the president fucking possums.
Social media may be the last cultural invention humans develop.
Web 2.0 was a terrible, terrible mistake.
We should have stopped at the point where people were sharing fake bomb recipes and posting about mushrooms and badgers. That was when the internet was at its best.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing. Signal dropped. Okay.
Idk, like, last thread I posted was a by-product of some 1000 pages of reading and dozens of hours of work... and it got like 10 replies... and while the thread only costed me about an hour of work redacting, it felt unfulfilling.
I'm not sure what to make of it really... I think the discussions changed from ahistorical topics so to speak, towards discussing real-life ongoing events/things/news.
The stuff people put the most work into has ALWAYS been historically the stuff that gets the least feedback, with occasional exceptions for stuff like the Nessie's thing, the Spiders stuff, and Holy Nonsense. So, okay, the stuff a SINGLE person puts the most work into. Point being that that has not changed, even as the forum has become fairly slow moving.
I wasn't complaining, just stating that BBS use is down, and FB is up. It's not on the user base, it's just that systems advanced, and people would rather be on a platform with millions of people rather than hundreds of people.
PD.COM: The last buggy whip factory.
Quote from: The Johnny on November 22, 2019, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing. Signal dropped. Okay.
Idk, like, last thread I posted was a by-product of some 1000 pages of reading and dozens of hours of work... and it got like 10 replies... and while the thread only costed me about an hour of work redacting, it felt unfulfilling.
I'm not sure what to make of it really... I think the discussions changed from ahistorical topics so to speak, towards discussing real-life ongoing events/things/news.
Yeah, I had to completely rework my thinking to stop getting mad about that. Now I go back and look and I spent like 7 years bitching that PD was dead. It took the big December 2015 meltdown to get me to change what I was after, here.
I also more or less stopped writing, but I am unsure that's actually connected. I think it's more "I had my say."
The difference is this place is a treasure trove, have you ever found yourself looking for old discussions in groups on Facebook.
Facebook is a literal sewer-pipe connecting inbred weirdo alt-right people from my home town and family, continually spewing utter garbage in my face 24/7. Maybe, that's just my inbred white-trash ass, maybe not. Old friends from a well-rated high school and life after high school, all spewing the same mindless psychobabble as back in the day, and they say I'M the drama queen. No thanks. I'll take this shit-show over that one any day.
Fuck Facebutt.
Arguably I got a bunch of ultra-conservatives saying it was alright that I was pilfering the government dole early in life, because I am genuinely FUBAR in the noggin and I've actually done good shit for society. I tried explaining "Well, just like me, there are many others that those from your perspective write off instinctually without taking a good, long look at the situation, actually YOU do that to whole groups of people, the only reason you agree with me being supported by the system is because you know me, and you've listened to what I've gone through."
That's not right, I encourage them to cultivate empathy, but they're too hung up on this mythological human beast that doesn't WANT to work and be productive. Come on now, that's a miserable existence and almost no one would willingly consign themselves to that... well, except spoiled rich brats.
EDIT: My purpose now is to settle down and make a bunch of multi-racial babies with a fantastic, talented young woman, and do my best to see that her emotional needs are met. That'll learn 'em.
Quote from: Faust on November 22, 2019, 07:58:43 PM
The difference is this place is a treasure trove, have you ever found yourself looking for old discussions in groups on Facebook.
Oh, not arguing. I am grateful that this place keeps trundling along.
SUP DICKBUTTS?
I finished losing the election and I'm working on some shit. You all still breathing?
I've stopped breathing and become a miniature Dok Howl.
Now I landed a writing gig for my madness.
I've been enjoying my job, recently.
The three-year project of unrelenting hideousness lies warm and gurgling in a shallow grave, and I've been performing an exorcism or two for other projects which yet shamble, doomed and groaning, upon this cursèd earth.
Also, some proposal work. They accidentally left me without adult supervision, so I kept going after running the initial estimates and started implementing prototypes. I've gotten more real work done in the last two weeks than in the last two months.
I'm doing unusually well. A revanent requires sustenance in the form of purpose, and it sure feels like clawing my way out of the grave, but it's coming along. Ye olde vengeance ran out a long time ago and been running on fumes for over a decade, needed something new. In short, I feel alive again, and it was so far gone that I didn't realize just how dead everything was until I got slapped in the face with a new reason.
Sorry to hear you lost the election, you seem like a quality individual, maybe next time?
I have 9 days off in a row. I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.
Sorry to hear you lost. I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2019, 03:35:39 AM
I have 9 days off in a row. I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.
Sorry to hear you lost. I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.
Right? She'd be functional, efficient, AND hilarious. There's no downside.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2019, 03:35:39 AM
I have 9 days off in a row. I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.
Sorry to hear you lost. I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.
Most folks lose their first, and I'm well positioned for next time. Those signs were expensive, I ain't walking away yet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PH2bSxo3XQs
Today's soundtrack: FUCK YOU UNIVERSE I WIN
Man, I've missed some shit.
The tail-end of some bot spam. QGP's birthday. Null landing a thing. This fancy new bar opening up. Damn.
The past few weeks for me have been Grey-fueled-ennui-fueled procrastination amongst poetry, ancient to early-modern literature, and ancient fucking Greek. The language, not the history, or the mythology. I'm not so much pissed as I am chuckling while also being annoyed by the sound of my own laugh.
In other news, estrogen continues to get injected into my body. I have a burgeoning desire to inject a guerilla art campaign into the boring campus around me (details pending). An anime going around since the 60s is making me learn how to be a better person by way of ancient monsters and closeted gays wholesome "friendships". I've been planning to make a thread devoted to my own brain-crotch goblins, but that day is not today. Also I have a bottle of white-out in my desk that I keep forgetting to bring with me places in lieu of actual paint.
Meanwhile, my lunch order number the other day was 23, I've been sitting in seat E-5 in my classes at times, and discoshit made its way into some of my more recent poems for the sake of easy Outlandishness. Fuckin' Fnords, man.
So, I'm not out of the woods yet, but some of the trees make music and I might decorate the rest with invisible ink.
I have THINGS for you my friend
You won't want them, and by that point it will be too late
Also welcome back
Quote from: nullified on November 24, 2019, 02:46:20 AM
I have THINGS for you my friend
You won't want them, and by that point it will be too late
Also welcome back
Much appreciated, Null. I missed you too. Sorry to hear about that shitty shitty knee/leg pain by the way. As a slim gal with cerebral palsy, myself, christ I can only imagine how fucked your legs must feel. Especially since it's actually winter now.
My knees are just MEAT and MEAT goes to the MEAT PLACE and I CAN SMELL IT SCREAMING
Ohhhhhhh I'm revving up a FOUL little pellet of horror oh god oh god
Took the plunge and nuked the facebook and reddit, trying to limit my time to feedly, hackernews and here, I find myself absentmindedly trying for them every so often but I was getting diminishing returns on them so I am going to try stay clean for a while.
I rarely post about personal stuff and I am unsure how to start: We have a baby on the way in April, this will be our first so I am expecting a lot of change after that but not worried about the feeding, nights etc, more worried about when they become mobile down the line and childproofing the house, turning it into less of a death trap.
At work I'm doing the system architecture and that has its ups and downs (making something is more fun then drafting how to make it), it looks like we might be expanding into the US, I've never actually been so I might be over once or twice when we are setting up on the ground, we'll be doing much the same as Ireland and the UK (demand side management for grid services, (moving MW around).
Playing Hollow Knight, this year has been great for games, film and TV not as much.
Congrats on the kid! Sounds like you're doing all right. Good to hear.
Congratulations!
Oh, congrats, man!!!
I got screwed. At the final hour.
I have a place lined up, I have roommates, I can PROBABLY get 2000 dollars to show up in three days time.
Edit posted too soon I'm kind of a mess:
What I can't find in three days is a co-signer. I have to back out and leave these people fuckin hanging and submit to homelessness again.
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?
Quote from: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:07:21 PM
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?
It's more that no one I work with would dare legally attach themselves to someone with a HISTORY of CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS when it comes to paying rent. And I can't even blame them for that.
Aww, Jesus, man. That fucking sucks.
I was literally at the finish line, and they're lassoing me back to square zero.
Quote from: nullified on November 26, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:07:21 PM
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?
It's more that no one I work with would dare legally attach themselves to someone with a HISTORY of CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS when it comes to paying rent. And I can't even blame them for that.
Does it have to be an individual? I'm thinking that this is the kind of thing where HR could come in handy. After all, you want to keep working for them, having a stable living situation would help with that. If someone from HR agrees to sign off on it, everyone wins.
I had to give HR as my reference when renting in London, though my situation is slightly different in that I previously rented from the company I worked for. Still, it may be worth asking. For a company, it's nowhere near as big a risk.
Not a reference.
Co-signer. If I can't pay rent for whatever reason (hit by a car or blow my check at the casinos) then they pay for me.
There's no way the company does that for me.
Quote from: Faust on November 26, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Took the plunge and nuked the facebook and reddit, trying to limit my time to feedly, hackernews and here, I find myself absentmindedly trying for them every so often but I was getting diminishing returns on them so I am going to try stay clean for a while.
I rarely post about personal stuff and I am unsure how to start: We have a baby on the way in April, this will be our first so I am expecting a lot of change after that but not worried about the feeding, nights etc, more worried about when they become mobile down the line and childproofing the house, turning it into less of a death trap.
At work I'm doing the system architecture and that has its ups and downs (making something is more fun then drafting how to make it), it looks like we might be expanding into the US, I've never actually been so I might be over once or twice when we are setting up on the ground, we'll be doing much the same as Ireland and the UK (demand side management for grid services, (moving MW around).
Playing Hollow Knight, this year has been great for games, film and TV not as much.
That's awesome, dude!
ZZZ
I got back with an ex-girlfriend from 12 years ago... we initially broke it off back then cause we were both so retarded and low key addicts that we mistreated each other all the time (never ever physical nor psychological abuse, just chaos and unstability)... despite that she always found a way to keep in contact throughouht all these years, although i was for the most part respectfully dismissive, just going out to just literally talk or walk around once in a while without anything more.
But recently I broke it off with some long distance relationship that was going nowhere after 5 years, and I havent dated or wanted to date locally for about a year and a half (ive had my flings, just to state that im not an incel)... and I thought to myself, i must really mean something to her if shes been seeking me out for such a long time, moreso cause shes a bit deeper than me on the autism/introversion spectrum or however you want to call it... shes very pretty too, so she could easily pick out of the litter whatever she wants (im not fugly, but that's not what i would call my forte)... shes been single for like 3 and a half years, which she tells me is when her boyfriend hit her (it was the second relationship where that had happened to her).
So idk, what's you peoples input? Please
I generally think that getting back together is a bad idea buuuut...are both of you in healthier places? Is she somebody you can sit down and have real conversations about what sucked last time and what to do differently this time? Are you the kind of person who can entertain those needed conversations? Has she processed the trauma from domestic violence?
First of all, as someone on the autism spectrum:
No, just staying in touch with you means nothing of that sort. I get caught in rituals very easily. When I have a problem, only two or three people come to mind when it comes to helping me solve it, depending on the problem. Some people I talk to everyday, some I talk to once a year or less. It very rarely means anything except this is how I've put my life together.
That said, be blunt without being an asshole, and accept the first answer given at face value without putting too much emotional reaction into it. Anyone I know on the autism spectrum would kill to have people just say what they're thinking and not react overjoyed (uh oh am I being manipulated) or pissed off (uh oh I forgot how to human) when we respond in kind.
Edit: Also, the above.
Quote from: Juana on November 27, 2019, 12:00:53 AM
I generally think that getting back together is a bad idea buuuut...are both of you in healthier places? Is she somebody you can sit down and have real conversations about what sucked last time and what to do differently this time? Are you the kind of person who can entertain those needed conversations? Has she processed the trauma from domestic violence?
Yeaaaah, I for the most part think getting back with an ex is a horrible idea too...
Me personally I've "matured" a lot i think, have been 14 years in therapy (first 2 years it was constant, after that it's for sporadic 8 session periods for specific issues, or one-off sessions for supervision matters or academic discussions)... ive also gone thru all that implies a bachelors in psych and in a month ill have my full psychoanalyst credentials... and I mean im 33, havent done hard-drugs in a decade, my only real addiction is nicotine and coffee and its not like out of control levels...... on her side shes 30 now, no more drugs, has a steady and demanding job for a long time.
Yeah, weve talked about the past and agreed that we lived thru some rocky awful times, and we dont really hold grudges and how things can be better now... I asked her about the violence stuff, but she didnt feel ready to talk about it, i think shes still very much affected by it.
Is she in therapy for it?
Quote from: nullified on November 27, 2019, 12:02:54 AM
First of all, as someone on the autism spectrum:
No, just staying in touch with you means nothing of that sort. I get caught in rituals very easily. When I have a problem, only two or three people come to mind when it comes to helping me solve it, depending on the problem. Some people I talk to everyday, some I talk to once a year or less. It very rarely means anything except this is how I've put my life together.
That said, be blunt without being an asshole, and accept the first answer given at face value without putting too much emotional reaction into it. Anyone I know on the autism spectrum would kill to have people just say what they're thinking and not react overjoyed (uh oh am I being manipulated) or pissed off (uh oh I forgot how to human) when we respond in kind.
Edit: Also, the above.
Well, I wrote here my interpretation of it, and i asked her about it and she confirmed it... but perhaps she felt it was what i wanted to hear? Ill keep that in mind.
And yeah, I act that way too, Ive always been a bit on the crude side of communication, but I think ive learned to be nicer/kinder about it.
Quote from: Juana on November 27, 2019, 01:10:56 AM
Is she in therapy for it?
Nope, she's always been very mistrustful and resentful with any kind of psychotherapists after she ran into a couple of them that had an "adaptation" intervention style when she was a teenager and younger.
And tbh, I completely understand that sentiment, I had like three or so really bad experiences with therapists myself... theres so many shitlords in the field that just want to change or mold people to fit into their own notion of a worldview or ideological standards.
I mean, now I know a lot of therapists by first name terms and know their line of work, so to speak, but theres objectively so much trash practitioners... I wouldn't feel right in pushing her into that too strongly... like I know how useful it is when you find a professional one can trust in, but how to change her opinion after bad experiences... seems like a dead-end.
Fair enough, man.
Well, my day went from bad to worse with astonishing swiftness. :lulz:
First it's the co-signer. Then sorry we don't have three days we need to be DONE TOMORROW. No warning just drop that deadline acceleration on us. Now the contact for the broker, Quinn, got psyched out and they cancelled the whole fucking thing and it's actually literally my fault because I was the only one who had no savings and no one who could get me 2200 dollars TOMORROW.
So back to the streets on Dec 1st, fuck yeah.
Quote from: The Johnny on November 26, 2019, 11:52:51 PM
ZZZ
I got back with an ex-girlfriend from 12 years ago... we initially broke it off back then cause we were both so retarded and low key addicts that we mistreated each other all the time (never ever physical nor psychological abuse, just chaos and unstability)... despite that she always found a way to keep in contact throughouht all these years, although i was for the most part respectfully dismissive, just going out to just literally talk or walk around once in a while without anything more.
But recently I broke it off with some long distance relationship that was going nowhere after 5 years, and I havent dated or wanted to date locally for about a year and a half (ive had my flings, just to state that im not an incel)... and I thought to myself, i must really mean something to her if shes been seeking me out for such a long time, moreso cause shes a bit deeper than me on the autism/introversion spectrum or however you want to call it... shes very pretty too, so she could easily pick out of the litter whatever she wants (im not fugly, but that's not what i would call my forte)... shes been single for like 3 and a half years, which she tells me is when her boyfriend hit her (it was the second relationship where that had happened to her).
So idk, what's you peoples input? Please
The Doktor's input:
Going back never works. At least it works so seldom that that's how you bet.
That's not a reason to not do it, though. Everyone gets to be a dumbass once a year or so, and if this is the way you'd prefer to be a dumbass, there are plenty of worse ways to go about it.
What the hell are you talking about, I'm a dumbass every day of my goddamn life!
Oh, hell.
That explains so much actually.
I've used up all my dumbass days, now they're trying their damnedest to tax my regular days. Good fucking luck, you bastards, I'll be a dumbass until the day you have to figure out how my skull fit through a two inch pipe but my left leg didn't. (Answer: the pressure had finally equalized by the time my right leg made it through. Also, I really should have flushed sooner.)
Quote from: nullified on November 27, 2019, 05:57:06 AM
What the hell are you talking about, I'm a dumbass every day of my goddamn life!
Oh, hell.
That explains so much actually.
I've used up all my dumbass days, now they're trying their damnedest to tax my regular days. Good fucking luck, you bastards, I'll be a dumbass until the day you have to figure out how my skull fit through a two inch pipe but my left leg didn't. (Answer: the pressure had finally equalized by the time my right leg made it through. Also, I really should have flushed sooner.)
I gotta say, I like this attitude.
Nullified, you are brilliant and creative. I know that may not help with this in particular, I've been homeless and confused as well. Sounds like too many requirements and too much rope-a-dope soap-on-a-rope punk-ass-choke for me, I toured couches for much of my life, leases rarely came up. Notifying the office? Please, nobody cares about that quiet weirdo that sleeps on your couch, and if they did I would've had something for them, thankfully I've grown since then. That's like contacting the home owner's assosciation to announce your weirdo cousin is coming to visit dressed in a tarp that isn't an earth-tone. Seriously, wtf.
But you got this, I believe in you.
As do I. The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.
Under her old name, she was defeated. The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.
Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.
Be proactive, not reactive. Seize the initiative. Capture the center, sac the queen, free the back row, punish the opponent.
EDIT: And move as few fucking pawns as possible you heathens!
What happened was four separate things.
First was ditching the family for good. A lot of that old me was my environment. Under those conditions, nothing was ever up to me, because I had no agency in that household and everyone else around me had an identical attitude of entitlement. It was a bad place for being a human being.
Then I came to Boston and learned the Joy of Doing Especially When You Shouldn't, courtesy of the Queen Bitch of Flyers. There is no need to go into detail: it was high stress and high fun and we always had another thing to do.
Next, Michigan showed me a completely random person who was healthy and normal. This doesn't sound like much, but I'm used to damaged people, and even when damaged people are good, "clear communication" is hard when one party or more is stressed.
In Michigan, I also had time to relax. I could actually take in the lessons I had been learning. I had acceptance from someone who had never met me before. There was always calm and patience. I could find my pace and not worry about it. There was no Sword of Damocles.
Finally, something BROKE. This past month or two I had several occasional excursions from our primary reality. I don't know what happened, but now I have this unyielding need to CHEW, and SHIT, and MAKE A MESS. At first it manifested in a way familiar around these parts but the past two days have taken it somewhere stranger.
I am still rubbing my hands delightedly at what is coming.
It took me a long time to realize just how alone I actually was... you know, all those promises "family" gives you, the ones they never follow through with because, "We just can't right now..."... yeah, those.
But being alone, has a wonderful, majestic side, not only do you owe nothing to no one, but if you take it to extremes, and you live way outside the ass-end of society way out in the wilderness, the stars are uncountable, and you can see a distant, dusty arm of our home galaxy, that will encircle you with a hug night after night, all year round.
Nothing quite beats the psychedelic blue/black of infinite space overhead, unobscured by light pollution, reminding you how small you really are.
Everyone makes promises that reality prevents them from keeping.
I know for a goddamn fact that every single person I know would be helping me out with this situation if they could. But I've seen their situations. They CAN'T unless they want to be where I am or worse. When your budget looks like: "food, rent, pick one" and I'm desperate for both food and housing, subjecting your income to my life puts you in the same state I'm in. And the bitch of it all is that it ONLY brings you down to my level, I'm not elevated to yours.
So I don't blame my friends for saying "No, I can't, I'll ask around though". If they didn't, I'd be worse off: I'd have no friends AND no place to live.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 05:50:13 AM
The Doktor's input:
Going back never works. At least it works so seldom that that's how you bet.
That's not a reason to not do it, though. Everyone gets to be a dumbass once a year or so, and if this is the way you'd prefer to be a dumbass, there are plenty of worse ways to go about it.
I've heard they don't give out rain-checks, so I guess I'll be a dumbass before 2020 arrives.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 06:22:35 AM
As do I. The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.
Under her old name, she was defeated. The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.
Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.
From what I've read Null has this scrappy attitude (in the positive sense) where you get kicked but don't stay down, and it's something we all should strive for being... I don't know what else to say.
Quote from: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 06:22:35 AM
As do I. The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.
Under her old name, she was defeated. The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.
Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.
From what I've read Null has this scrappy attitude (in the positive sense) where you get kicked but don't stay down, and it's something we all should strive for being... I don't know what else to say.
Or when you get kicked, you wear the bastard's skin as a suit while you spray nerve gas on his family at Christmas time.
One or the other.
:lulz:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c8AM79TNIMs
This is basically my attitude. I'll take what I can get, and I don't know HOW to stop. I'm fucking ROYALTY BY BIRTHRIGHT like EVERY HUMAN BEING BEFORE AND AFTER ME and I don't give a fuck if my dominion is a pile of dirt and a dead rat in a corner, I'm fucking ruling it.
I've been at square zero more times than most people realize you can get to it and survive the trip back and I'm sure I'll be going back ten more times before the end of the fucking decade.
They keep pulling the rug out from under me but what they haven't learned is that shit is ruining the goddamn rug and sooner or later they won't be able to pull that tired ass joke anymore because it's hard to fuck up my footing when you're just tugging some stray threads held together by dust bunnies and hope.
I WILL WIN even if it's only by forcing them to trip on my fucking bones, the cocksuckers.
Cain, check out "Antonaise" in the waiting room. :lol:
It's like they aren't even trying anymore.
Tell me there's screenshots :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 08:21:57 PM
Cain, check out "Antonaise" in the waiting room. :lol:
It's like they aren't even trying anymore.
Back when I were a wee lad, spambots at least tried to look like real people.
Nullified, I have been back at square zero so many times THAT, is my kingdom. I squat in a bush and plot, skinning wild animals to wear so I can absorb their powers. I watch, I wait, I prowl, I hibernate, waiting, because I've pounced too soon before, this next time may be my last pounce, so I'm going to make damn sure it's worth it. The brush is safe, hidden from view. When next I emerge I'll either be unstoppable, or it's done, and I've snagged a juicy little rabbit that may be the key to all my goals. Not skinning this one, no no, just need some modifications to the burrow's openening so I can squeeze in with everyone else.
We've got it this time, the worst wolf in sheep's clothing is the one that honestly sides with the sheep.
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)
PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE
Quote from: Cain on November 28, 2019, 06:06:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)
PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE
FEEL THE DEATH FROM THE TAMDOURINE, OH YEA
Quote from: Cain on November 28, 2019, 06:06:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)
PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE
Pancingqueen is so fucking on brand. I fucking can't :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
I'm going to Black Friday tomorrow. I'm not shopping, I'm just there to observe stupid humans and maybe make things worse.
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick. The waiting room is full of shamblers.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 05:17:37 AM
I'm going to Black Friday tomorrow. I'm not shopping, I'm just there to observe stupid humans and maybe make things worse.
I did that a few years back when they were still doing the midnight rampage thing. My schtick was to grab carts, push them into particularly congested areas and abandon them.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 05:38:35 AM
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick. The waiting room is full of shamblers.
We are living in a Romero shopping mall
Quote from: Faust on November 29, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 05:38:35 AM
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick. The waiting room is full of shamblers.
We are living in a Romero shopping mall
Reader Rant has the same problem, and it got worse for them at the same time as it did for us, if that's any consolation.
And given they're on different software, it suggests the problem is that the internet is being flooded with bots lately.
I mean, moreso than usual, obviously.
Quote from: Cain on November 29, 2019, 04:50:55 PM
And given they're on different software, it suggests the problem is that the internet is being flooded with bots lately.
I mean, moreso than usual, obviously.
Yeah, this trend is recent and pretty abrupt.
I can say it's universal as of today.
We're getting some outrageously fake emails at work, with some crazy domains as shown in here.
The one that nearly caught me almost looked human but the email had "sent from Yahoo Maievorfil" in it and then... not a yahoo address. Hotmail. Ahahahah.
Quote from: nullified on November 29, 2019, 11:37:16 PM
I can say it's universal as of today.
We're getting some outrageously fake emails at work, with some crazy domains as shown in here.
The one that nearly caught me almost looked human but the email had "sent from Yahoo Maievorfil" in it and then... not a yahoo address. Hotmail. Ahahahah.
Our IT guy is on the stick, so we don't get those, but something is definitely going on.
Our IT team seems to be chosen based on malicious incompetence.
I have met one person in IT who didn't have their head so far up their ass they were incapable of doing basic troubleshooting. They were crying and would not speak to me, they just waved wordlessly at my computer and walked away.
I'm not joking.
Obviously, they quit next day. No notice. No call no show. Been two months of that.
EDIT: I know they weren't incompetent because I had seen them fix my supervisors computer an hour prior. They were very angry and kept telling the lead to "SHUT UP I'm trying to work fuck goddamn"
Today I've started to understand the meaning of "Side Effect City".
Slow day. Everyone's brains are semi functional to nonfunctional. I'm working at half the pace of a bad day. I'm exhausted feeling. Sluggish. Ravenous.
What's going on? I ate my weight today and slept all night last night. There's no call for this shit.
Someone mentions feeling cold. Supervisor checks the temperature.
It's 64 degrees.
Someone mentions that is well below OSHA standards.
I recall that you fall asleep easier at lower temperatures.
Today management will see a precipitous drop in metrics across the company. The answer for why is they tried to save on heating bills and everyone got drowsy.
Today I went to work.
For two and a half hours.
I was FINE then without warning everything went sideways, I turned bright red all over, and all the food and orange juice I could find didn't help me at least stumble back to work.
Then I wiped a hand across my sweating brow and realized I was painfully hot.
I'm on my way to urgent care now. Fucking hooray.
Quote from: nullified on December 02, 2019, 08:17:29 PM
Today I went to work.
For two and a half hours.
I was FINE then without warning everything went sideways, I turned bright red all over, and all the food and orange juice I could find didn't help me at least stumble back to work.
Then I wiped a hand across my sweating brow and realized I was painfully hot.
I'm on my way to urgent care now. Fucking hooray.
Sorry to hear about this.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Stop me if you've heard this one:
Go to the doctor's office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. You're shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so it's not chicanery.
But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. "This sure is concerning but we can't see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?"
AGAIN.
Oh wait, you've never heard that one?
The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: nullified on December 02, 2019, 11:11:29 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Stop me if you've heard this one:
Go to the doctor's office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. You're shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so it's not chicanery.
But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. "This sure is concerning but we can't see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?"
AGAIN.
Oh wait, you've never heard that one?
The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:
Not that it makes it any less serious, but, could it be psycho-somatic? I don't know how sleazy doctors are over there or your medical issues.
Quote from: The Johnny on December 02, 2019, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: nullified on December 02, 2019, 11:11:29 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Stop me if you've heard this one:
Go to the doctor's office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. You're shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so it's not chicanery.
But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. "This sure is concerning but we can't see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?"
AGAIN.
Oh wait, you've never heard that one?
The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:
Not that it makes it any less serious, but, could it be psycho-somatic? I don't know how sleazy doctors are over there or your medical issues.
My stress levels back in 2012 were high enough that my arms and legs went totally numb.
Now I have drugs and things are much better.
Second DM session went for nearly 4 hours.
From this I have learned one thing: everything takes longer than you planned. Everything.
On the plus side our plucky heroes (who are most certainly not mercenary murderhobos with an ability to think one step ahead) have now stumbled into an off-the-books secret military program, which opens up all kinds of fun adventures and people to kill.
Quote from: nullified on December 02, 2019, 11:11:29 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Stop me if you've heard this one:
Go to the doctor's office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. You're shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so it's not chicanery.
But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. "This sure is concerning but we can't see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?"
AGAIN.
Oh wait, you've never heard that one?
The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:
Is it lupus?
It could be psychosomatic, absolutely. I really highly doubt it (psychosomatic symptoms tend to build up over time, the undeniable physical symptoms are partially a result of all the attention you've paid to them) but I'm not by far going to rule that out.
In fact, I'm also not going to rule that out for everything else.
My brain is weird. It's quite possible that it's the cause of /all/ of this shit. I know the lit on conversion disorder. Psychosomatic symptoms go fucking far, way out into "what the fuck" land and beyond.
But I really, really don't think it's the case. I think something weird is up. The fact the doctors are baffled and aren't willing to jump with both feet into psychosomatic issues makes me more confident in this, it's more a reluctant "here's what I got" non answer.
Edit: I sincerely doubt it's lupus :lulz: :lulz:
Honest best guess: it's the interaction of a whole bunch of medium-probability issues that don't often crop up together at all, let alone all of them in one comorbid clusterfuck. This is JUST AS LIKELY as me having won the rare disease lottery and picking up something that doesn't totally bar all hope of living a normal life but which no one else in the world has, I grant you, but I am more willing to believe a small gang of Things That Happened Before Actually Pretty Often Really over One Crazy Thing, All New, Never Before Seen.
Oh and to be clear: because I actually know about conversion disorder and such, I don't get all "NO IM NOT CRAZY" about it. It's more of a "Hm, could be. Do you think it's more or less likely than something actually being there? Best guess."
Tonight's lady paused and you could see gears turning, hesitation, then... "Like I said, if it's not gone tomorrow, or if it gets worse, go to the ER."
If someone is willing to buy psychosomatic symptoms and you think that's most likely the issue, the only reason I can see not to say as much is no confidence in your own reading of what's in front of you.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 12:16:10 AM
My stress levels back in 2012 were high enough that my arms and legs went totally numb.
Now I have drugs and things are much better.
I believe ya - like, I've also known couple of people that had Fibromyalgia, which gets attributed too quickly to biological/infective causes while some people consider it the XXIst century hysteria (conversion). I've also lost count to how many times after a psychotherapeutic intervention the given person gets flu, diarrhea or some kind of physical unwellness.
Quote from: nullified on December 03, 2019, 12:36:33 AM
Oh and to be clear: because I actually know about conversion disorder and such, I don't get all "NO IM NOT CRAZY" about it. It's more of a "Hm, could be. Do you think it's more or less likely than something actually being there? Best guess."
Tonight's lady paused and you could see gears turning, hesitation, then... "Like I said, if it's not gone tomorrow, or if it gets worse, go to the ER."
If someone is willing to buy psychosomatic symptoms and you think that's most likely the issue, the only reason I can see not to say as much is no confidence in your own reading of what's in front of you.
Yeah, it's a very difficult topic to approach reasonably, be it on the practitioners side or the patients side, like it either gets exxagerated or downplayed but not approached reasonably... like practitioners are either "You have nothing real and physical, pls stop simulating and wasting our time" or "EVERYTHING is in your mind, go to counseling and your Ebola will be cured"... and on patients side they can get really set in hypochondriac mode and rage at anyone that would suggest it could be due to psychic etiology.
Personally, the scariest part of psychosomatic issues, is that they're psychosomatic until they aren't... you get a symbolically constructed and psychically originated "nervous cough" for long enough, and 10 years later they die of throat cancer, due to the abnormal stress on said body part regardless of where its originating from.
In my case, I am normally like the anti-hypochondriac. "It's either my damage or my weird ass chronic shit, it'll go away or it will kill me, there is work to be done." Nausea, sneezing? "Cold or flu, doesn't matter, I have dealt with worse."
Fever, serious pain, neurological symptoms, and visible changes in the skin are the exceptions. Any of these are the drop-and-run. (Fever only because if /I/ can clearly sense it, it's probably too late.) I had everything BUT pain with this, so it was definitely a "fucking out of here" moment.
So, my latest FB jail sentence ends tomorrow. 30 days of breakin' rocks for The Man, and I have learned NOTHING.
Just wait until they have your computer mining Libracoin for them.
Of course, I'm just being silly here. They'll probably add a secret program to run in the background every time you log into Facebook and have everyone's phones and machines mining Libracoin for them.
Quote from: Cain on December 04, 2019, 03:57:22 PM
Just wait until they have your computer mining Libracoin for them.
Of course, I'm just being silly here. They'll probably add a secret program to run in the background every time you log into Facebook and have everyone's phones and machines mining Libracoin for them.
I am proud to be part of that effort.
But WTF is Libracoin? I mean, I know it's some bullshit fake currency, but that name is a little odd.
It comes with connotations I would rather not have associated with Zuckerberg, definitely.
It is their attempt to divert power away from sovereign states and render countries and national government secondary to corperations.
So nothing they weren't doing before.
FREEDOM COINS
call it what it is
ZUCK BUCKS
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.
Quote from: Cain on December 04, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.
This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 04, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.
This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way. :lulz:
IIRC you wrote a rant about how bank of America tried to introduce its own currency to rival the dollar and had their butts shut down, printing presses smashed by the gov? I'm hoping facebook bring that on themselves.
Quote from: Faust on December 04, 2019, 04:35:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 04, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.
This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way. :lulz:
IIRC you wrote a rant about how bank of America tried to introduce its own currency to rival the dollar and had their butts shut down, printing presses smashed by the gov? I'm hoping facebook bring that on themselves.
I don't remember that.
But I will say that even if the government doesn't get involved, this will fail like a CHAMPION, right out of the gate. And that's BEFORE someone gets caught with their hand in the till.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 04, 2019, 04:19:33 PM
FREEDOM COINS
call it what it is
ZUCK BUCKS
If I'm correct, it's more like "JUSTICE coins".
Libra is like the zodiac sign, a weight measurer, which symbolizes the rule of law and justice, while Liber is more related to freedoms.
:flyes away:
thank you for that!
and :lol:, nothing says law and order like an economy-destabilizing cryptocurrency
They don't want law and order. They want corprate feudalism.
Quote from: Juana on December 05, 2019, 04:17:03 AM
They don't want law and order. They want corprate feudalism.
Well THAT doesn't have latin roots and lacks certain ring to it.
Fiefcoin.
Hmm.
No, you're right, there's the wrong sort of odor to it.
Vassalcoin? Better, better.
Serfcoin?
That's the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.
Quote from: nullified on December 05, 2019, 10:56:48 PM
Fiefcoin.
Hmm.
No, you're right, there's the wrong sort of odor to it.
Vassalcoin? Better, better.
Serfcoin?
That's the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.
Alright alright, Serfcoin sounds very on with the times.
Speaking of cryptocurrencies, I'm being "blackmailed", with payment due via bitcoin. I was toying with the idea of doing something obnoxious, like sending the spammer $1, broken into tens of thousands of payments, each a fraction of a penny, but alas! My brief research into the subject shows that bitcoin doesn't work that way. You essentially need to offer a bribe ("indeterminate transaction fee") to get the system to handle your payment, and even then it can take hours (or days) for it to be processed.
As awkward and arbitrary as it appears, I'm surprised the bitcoin bubble has grown as big as it has.
True Believers and technobabble.
It's a classic snake oil con, except financial instead of medical. You have people who went full sunk cost fallacy, people who recognized they could fleece the masses for fun and profit, and a few people who actually made some actual, legitimate bucks off of the booms and busts.
They all tell everyone else how it works and how awesome it is. They use specialized terminology because there's nothing else to distinguish it from watermarked Monopoly money. No one understands what it means, but these people seem to know what they're talking about and they're rich now! Or they would have been except they missed a price spike, but I won't do that! I'm smarter! Right?
Creating more aspiring con artists who see through the veil (or independently reconstruct how to grift people with it), more people who get some marginal gains off of sheer luck, and more people who put all their everything into it and can now NEVER go back.
And these people all tell everyone else how it... etc.
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 12:23:18 AM
True Believers and technobabble.
It's a classic snake oil con, except financial instead of medical. You have people who went full sunk cost fallacy, people who recognized they could fleece the masses for fun and profit, and a few people who actually made some actual, legitimate bucks off of the booms and busts.
They all tell everyone else how it works and how awesome it is. They use specialized terminology because there's nothing else to distinguish it from watermarked Monopoly money. No one understands what it means, but these people seem to know what they're talking about and they're rich now! Or they would have been except they missed a price spike, but I won't do that! I'm smarter! Right?
Creating more aspiring con artists who see through the veil (or independently reconstruct how to grift people with it), more people who get some marginal gains off of sheer luck, and more people who put all their everything into it and can now NEVER go back.
And these people all tell everyone else how it... etc.
Read my book on how to accomplish your media-imposed goals!!!:
"How to be a model": work out the equivalent of a full-time job OR the magical answer, have good genetics.
"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point. If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.
I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.
Quote from: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 12:39:30 AM
"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
"It is vastly easier to turn one million dollars into two million dollars than it is to turn one dollar into two dollars."
(Not original with me, but I can't remember the source.)
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 01:00:27 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 12:39:30 AM
"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
"It is vastly easier to turn one million dollars into two million dollars than it is to turn one dollar into two dollars."
(Not original with me, but I can't remember the source.)
It might as well been Karl Marx, theory of capital and investment and all that :lulz:
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
Quote from: nullified on December 05, 2019, 10:56:48 PM
Fiefcoin.
Hmm.
No, you're right, there's the wrong sort of odor to it.
Vassalcoin? Better, better.
Serfcoin?
That's the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.
Plebcoin.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 12:58:13 AM
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point. If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.
I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.
It won't. Crypto is the new MLM.
In fact, many of the high profile crypto people are turning out to come from the shadier, more fucked up side of MLM. Read a news article about Quadriga the other day, it was hilarious and alarming.
"You have a man convicted of running a Ponzi scheme in charge of banking your bitcoin. He's the only accredited bitcoin banker in Canada. Then he literally fakes his death and runs off with all your money."
This is real life. This really happened.
Crypto is here to stay as a miserable fringe thing till the end of fucking time. Mark my words.
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 AM
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
On a brighter note:
Did you know you can just send a box of flies to someone? Like live flies in a box. You can literally just fill a box with flies. And mail it to someone.
This is legal. It's also surprisingly cheap, and while flies don't live long, you're looking at 12 to 14 dollars to priority mail this sucker to your "pal" across the country, plenty of time for them to burst out of the box like a cloud of anxiety and carpet the room in buzzing hairy insects.
Other completely legal things to send: Pizza, half eaten. Urine. 10000 pieces of cardboard carefully snipped out in the shape of microSD cards, painted appropriately, and with foil taped to them as "contacts". Preserved goat parts. Human remains (seriously). Letters addressed to nonexistent individuals (make sure there is a good reason for your target to not return to sender). Centipedes, the normal sized kind. Centipedes, the scary sized kind.
There is a very short list of what you cannot send in the mail, and it is not vague at /all/. I have had plans to make use of this information for awhile but can find neither the time nor the effort.
I knew you could mail ladybugs but not the rest of that. Hmm
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 04:54:40 AM
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 AM
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
On a brighter note:
Did you know you can just send a box of flies to someone? Like live flies in a box. You can literally just fill a box with flies. And mail it to someone.
This is legal. It's also surprisingly cheap, and while flies don't live long, you're looking at 12 to 14 dollars to priority mail this sucker to your "pal" across the country, plenty of time for them to burst out of the box like a cloud of anxiety and carpet the room in buzzing hairy insects.
Other completely legal things to send: Pizza, half eaten. Urine. 10000 pieces of cardboard carefully snipped out in the shape of microSD cards, painted appropriately, and with foil taped to them as "contacts". Preserved goat parts. Human remains (seriously). Letters addressed to nonexistent individuals (make sure there is a good reason for your target to not return to sender). Centipedes, the normal sized kind. Centipedes, the scary sized kind.
There is a very short list of what you cannot send in the mail, and it is not vague at /all/. I have had plans to make use of this information for awhile but can find neither the time nor the effort.
And you didnt even mention the worst thing to send right after Ant-hrax...
A box with a spring mechanism full of GLITTER.
For the more religiously conservative, you can also get Koran's delivered. For free.
Much like the value of currency, I suspect the underpinning of cyrptocurrencies is people's faith in them.
And if that's true, then maybe what crypto represents is that anything can be regarded as money as long as its predicated on something incomprehensible
Which is why I'm developing a currency based on republican impeachment defense
:rimshot:
I'll be here all night, folks.
Thank you. Thank you. You're too kind.
The other trick is to artifically limit them, so percieved value is built-in, regardless of how much that value actually relates to material worth.
It's like stamp collecting, only they're not legal stamps.
and that's how the economy of the 2020s became based on Yu-Gi-Oh cards
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.
Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.
This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 AM
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
:lol:
I remember mailing Richter an anvil. "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Quote from: Cramulus on December 06, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
Much like the value of currency, I suspect the underpinning of cyrptocurrencies is people's faith in them.
The value of conventional currency isn't entirely based on faith, though. There's also the fact that your government requires taxes to be paid in that currency, and the government controls the guys with the tanks and guns.
The bitcoin guys
can't afford an army; all their capital is tied up in mining rigs.
Please don't give Facebook more ideas.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 AM
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
:lol:
I remember mailing Richter an anvil. "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Lmao, Jesus fuck, I bet he was confused
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 05:49:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 AM
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
:lol:
I remember mailing Richter an anvil. "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Lmao, Jesus fuck, I bet he was confused
It was Richter. He just started hammering away. He is a simple man, and does not question WHY he has an anvil, just who he can throw it at.
I want an anvil too.
After I have a permanent address, of course.
I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 06:25:01 PM
I want an anvil too.
After I have a permanent address, of course.
I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.
I am already a tool AND a Doktor.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 06:25:01 PM
I want an anvil too.
After I have a permanent address, of course.
I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.
I am already a tool AND a Doktor.
But do you have a menacing widget that looks like a Victorian surgical device, an Elizabethan torture device, and an H R Giger sculpture all at the SAME TIME? Can you BRANDISH IT at the small beasts you are furious with?
This is why I need an anvil one day.
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: nullified on December 06, 2019, 06:25:01 PM
I want an anvil too.
After I have a permanent address, of course.
I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.
I am already a tool AND a Doktor.
But do you have a menacing widget that looks like a Victorian surgical device, an Elizabethan torture device, and an H R Giger sculpture all at the SAME TIME? Can you BRANDISH IT at the small beasts you are furious with?
This is why I need an anvil one day.
You do. I am out.
The closest thing I had to what you describe was the infamous "pink glove," which involved a toilet plunger and an apple corer. It was one of Suu's more deranged ideas.
(https://cdn3.volusion.com/nqpvm.detql/v/vspfiles/photos/CDXPH-2-2T.jpg)
I have ideas already.
I wonder if I can manage a few days off and access to a forge?
I wonder how hard it is to take those little screwdriver heads and attach them to fake (or real, depending) teeth?
I wonder if I can make it crack an egg and hork it out of its gaping maw?
Such possibilities.
Quote from: Cain on December 06, 2019, 01:42:44 PM
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.
Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.
This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.
We could also value digital currency based on GPUs, which is what's used to make them.
It's all a scam by Nvidia, AMD and pyramid-schemers.
I'm just waiting for all my old Camel Bucks to mature so I can cash them out and retire in luxury.
I said this
At work
In a chat medium
There are logs
“HAHAHA nothing but fun! Right into the abyss!”
“This whole crm is teetering on the verge of legal action, all it takes is a couple dozen incompetents shitting the bed all at once. If that seems unlikely to you, look at [outsourced CS company]”
“I need to overdose on nicotine because if it doesn’t kill me this goddamn backwards implementation will surgically remove my deep fried neocortex to use as a basketball”
ETA: “these emails are like the boulder of Sisyphus: I can handle this! I can get this up the hill! This time I win! Then the giggling psychotic demon named [outsourced CS company] answers an email they shouldn’t have and down it all goes, crushing me flat into the earth beneath it, and the cycle continues”
“I need a smoke break before I spontaneously combust and rocket through the 9th floor like a pressurized gas canister”
Quote from: nullified on December 07, 2019, 06:19:59 PM
ETA: "these emails are like the boulder of Sisyphus: I can handle this! I can get this up the hill! This time I win! Then the giggling psychotic demon named [outsourced CS company] answers an email they shouldn't have and down it all goes, crushing me flat into the earth beneath it, and the cycle continues"
You can get away with quite a lot if you're competent, you don't make too many of the wrong people angry, and you're weird enough that people don't know
quite how to handle you.
Anyway, I was exposed to potentially dangerous levels of Christmas music today, so I've got that "insatiable urge to kill" thing going again. If any pinealistic noobs show up in the next few days, would anyone mind if I chew on them a bit?
I'm more than competent. I'm the go-to for weird technical minutiae. I handle customers who have been mishandled and abused by incompetent fuckwits and I have them apologizing to us for their understandable frustration.
I can turn a giant turd into a fucking SELLING POINT, and I don't even do it to sell shit.
I'm not tooting my own horn, I'm repeating what others tell me. I'm not on the same page, I feel like a cheap plastic shopping bag attempting to hold back a mob equipped with torches and pitchforks, but it's probably a point in my favor that the entire chain of command until the 9th floor is on my side.
But just like everywhere else, once management leaves the front lines they're incompetent as fuck and can't understand why everyone's having so much trouble using their worthless backwards piece of shit dysfunctional garbage chute of a system to handle shit better suited to someone with a pipe wrench and a GRIN.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 12:58:13 AM
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point. If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.
I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.
This is part of why there are now a ton of different cryptos, a lot of the ones which are not bitcoin still process transactions in a few seconds for a few fractions of a penny in value.
Quote from: Cain on December 06, 2019, 01:42:44 PM
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.
Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.
This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.
A lot of folks know it's a bubble, but they also know that, unlike that other sucker, they are going to get out of the bubble at the top.
The friend I sent the potato to: I still can't believe it wasn't you.
Me, fortunately in another room: I wish it had been me.
I may have a new job lined up. Awaiting details now.
If I do, it's IT and not customer facing THANK GOD PRAISE BE.
Old people I like need to stop dying today damnit. Old people I don't like can continue to do so, and they better.
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Old people I like need to stop dying today damnit. Old people I don't like can continue to do so, and they better.
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Try connecting their hearts to world nuclear arsenal in a way that the moment they stop it's boomtime. Be very public about this and medical researchers around the world will work their asses off to provide immortality to your loved ones.
Re-watching Aeon Flux from the talking episode (7 onwards), love how each episode was an exploration of some concept and discarded the episodes or story telling before it. MTV used to do fantastic TV.
https://www.wcostream.com/anime/aeon-flux
Now knowing that Aeon Flux is an exploration of gnostic myth, I felt like I should revisit it -- watched a handful of episodes a few years ago and just cringed the whole time. It didn't land for me. Are you saying some parts are better than others? I watched a few of the short non-talky ones, and then the one with the Demiurge... didn't really sift anything from it.
Quote from: Faust on December 10, 2019, 11:02:30 AM
MTV used to do fantastic TV.
I thought "The Maxx" was brilliant.
The sounds in my head have started again. Good....
Someone coming. Someone dangerous. I can smell the sweating leather and peppermint.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 10, 2019, 12:53:15 PM
Now knowing that Aeon Flux is an exploration of gnostic myth, I felt like I should revisit it -- watched a handful of episodes a few years ago and just cringed the whole time. It didn't land for me. Are you saying some parts are better than others? I watched a few of the short non-talky ones, and then the one with the Demiurge... didn't really sift anything from it.
The demiurge uses the literal Gnostic imagry but hasn't much in the way of referencing gnosticism, it's more a parable on faith in general:
In some cases leading to a manic desire to feel that connection that leaves the people feeling empty and unfulfilled (hence why Aeon wants to blast it as it represents a controlling force over individuality), and Trevor wants it (as a unifying symbol of control), it was a weird theme, that everyone being in a shared connection could 1: be more depressed, 2: that the shared connection could be a force of oppression.
Every episode deals with a different theme entirely but always in the balance of order or control, and the weird BDSM power play between Trevor and Aeon is a manifestation of that.
My favorites are a last time for everything: A cloning episode more to do with identity and feeling comfortable with a partner when the risk of missing out on a free individualistic life is taken away.
ReErasure, about a bliss drug that causes memory loss, with themes of longing and regret.
The purge: Individuality and control (would it be ethical if the state could change a person to want to be good (as the state views it), which uses weird themes for law and order such as a tv audience as a loose stand in for a court
It is punk, it is style over substance, uncomfortably filthy (but never attractive or for the viewers enjoyment which I think is a good distinction), pretentious at times, but it is a bunch of 15 minute epsiodes that goes through a roller coaster of themes and discards them after each. I'd say give it another chance, especially if you only ever watched the shorts and the Demiurge, because the rest of the Talkie episodes are only like an hour or so more. There's episodes I really dislike but I enjoy the ideas they plant.
And yeah, The Maxx is the perfect companion for this, for the same kind of metaphor over literal story telling. Mr Gone was fantastic.
It can be anything it wants.
Except watchable.
Thems fightin words! Wait a minute, you dont like blade runner either, I dont think we are going to agree on this
Then there was "The Real World."
It was a story about a tv show that went on to infect every channel on cable, even the educational ones, especially the educational ones, and then went on to infect the federal government of the United States.
Will it rise to the status of Extinction Level Event? Stay tuned to find out!
I try not to watch too much of "The real world", there's too many conflicting interpretations and all of them depressing
It's not much of a first-person RPG, either.
IT BEGINS
I HAVE THE POWER AND THEY COME TO ME
AHAHAHAHA
:magick:
(With thanks to QGP, whose fault this all is)
IT job came through, I take it?
Not for a fucking second, no.
However, I now have people who want to be MY roommate. In fact, I have CHOICES. In fact, I Am In Control.
Just goes to show you that sometimes the best answer to how to get through a door is simply "Be On The Other Side".
That's not a koan. :lulz:
It's that time!!!
Getting a shower and then it's off to see THIS SHIT LIVE
https://elizabethcolourwheel.bandcamp.com/
https://streetsects.bandcamp.com/
If you like sappy 90s goth rock and a bit of doom metal check out Elizabeth Colour Wheel, if you like running power drills being thrown into a trash compactor while a madman freaks the fuck out on top of it all then check out Street Sects
What a fucking concert this will be
Update:
I feel like a piece of deli meat and Street Sects isn't talking stupid bullshit re: homelessness gentrification and the American underclass
Vocalist is in my corner, said I should hit him up if I ever need help
My lungs feel punctured and my limbs feel like tooth picks being used to pick up a large chicken carcass
Fuck yes
Quote from: Faust on December 10, 2019, 07:18:34 PM
Thems fightin words! Wait a minute, you dont like blade runner either, I dont think we are going to agree on this
Also, Dune is best used as a doorstop.
Quote from: nullified on December 13, 2019, 05:21:23 AM
Update:
I feel like a piece of deli meat and Street Sects isn't talking stupid bullshit re: homelessness gentrification and the American underclass
Vocalist is in my corner, said I should hit him up if I ever need help
My lungs feel punctured and my limbs feel like tooth picks being used to pick up a large chicken carcass
Fuck yes
THERE AIN'T NO REST FOR THE WICKED
MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES
:jihaad:
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.
But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???
and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.
Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so
Quote from: Cramulus on December 13, 2019, 03:21:35 PM
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.
But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???
and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.
Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so
I recommend the "Safehold" series by David Weber. Despite the fact that it is a bag of used tropes, it is a riveting story that ALSO has those "WTF" moments.
And you get them without Frank Herbert pooping on them.
The Malazan books say "hold my beer".
Toll the Hounds has the greatest final 100 page rollercoaster in any fiction out there. Full stop. Once you hit that final stretch you cannot stop reading. But the entire series is full of very exquisite twists in narrative and direction that would make any sensible person go "wtf".
Quote from: Cramulus on December 13, 2019, 03:21:35 PM
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.
But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???
and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.
Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so
Three is the last one before the narrative gets really weird. God Emperor, the next one was my favorite one. However I have not read that since I was sixteen so take that with a pinch of salt.
These are a few of my favorite things. :lol:
http://www.openthefuture.com/2006/12/an_eschatological_taxonomy.html
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2019, 04:51:14 PM
These are a few of my favorite things. :lol:
http://www.openthefuture.com/2006/12/an_eschatological_taxonomy.html
Yeah, definitely something nifty there, no doubt.
Hey guys, checking in after a while. Most notable thing that happened was that I broke up with that woman i was dating. Turns out that getting into a relationship 2 months after shed gotten out of her previous and quite traumatizing relationship was way too soon, so we mutually broke up. Rather amicably actually. Were still friends and still talk about Steven Universe together, so that's nice.
whats been more stressful lately is grinding to make bills and in general wondering what i'm doing with my life, as i'm looking down the barrel of turning 30 next year. I've decided that while I haven't given up on trying to get into the entertainment industry, I should try to get into one of the trades so i can work within that industry and still have a decent job to fall back on if that doesn't pan out. Looking at welding or electrician programs atm, and considering going back to school.
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 14, 2019, 12:23:55 AM
Hey guys, checking in after a while. Most notable thing that happened was that I broke up with that woman i was dating. Turns out that getting into a relationship 2 months after shed gotten out of her previous and quite traumatizing relationship was way too soon, so we mutually broke up. Rather amicably actually. Were still friends and still talk about Steven Universe together, so that's nice.
whats been more stressful lately is grinding to make bills and in general wondering what i'm doing with my life, as i'm looking down the barrel of turning 30 next year. I've decided that while I haven't given up on trying to get into the entertainment industry, I should try to get into one of the trades so i can work within that industry and still have a decent job to fall back on if that doesn't pan out. Looking at welding or electrician programs atm, and considering going back to school.
I was just getting started at 30. You'll be fine.
thanks, Dok. :)
I think this is the first night I've had with no bad news, where I've had the energy and opportunity to enjoy myself?
I started the day by meeting an awesome lady and buying pastries. I dropped 4 of those off with QGP. Then I went to kill some time at a bar and grill, drank DELICIOUS beer and ate DELICIOUS food, aiming for a second meeting today. Fell through, which was fine by me as I had a guilt-free AMAZING dinner.
I walked to the bus in the perfect weather for me (QGP calls it "snail weather") and helped a lady with a dead phone, a deadline, and no hope by giving her a spare lightning cable I had from my concert night.
I'm feeling fucking good. This is going to be one of those nights I sleep like a baby and have good dreams. If my life was all these kind of days, I'd have no frustrations or anxiety.
On further reflection this is probably the first time I've been feeling this good with no outside intervention.
No one made today happen. I own this awesome shit. I did this for myself. No one stuck their head in to help. No one stepped out of their way and said "let me help" or "I'm paying." I did this. I did all of this. No one else can lay claim to one moment of it.
I did this.
Which means I can do it again. And again.
Which means I can save it up and do BETTER.
That's a fucking incredibly good feeling. Being able to take full credit for your own awesome day. Goddamn.
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2019, 04:25:17 PM
The Malazan books say "hold my beer".
Toll the Hounds has the greatest final 100 page rollercoaster in any fiction out there. Full stop. Once you hit that final stretch you cannot stop reading. But the entire series is full of very exquisite twists in narrative and direction that would make any sensible person go "wtf".
I hated Gardens of the Moons so didn't go further.
But I can still remember scenes of the book very clearly, so it was on to something.
Quote
I hated Gardens of the Moons so didn't go further.
But I can still remember scenes of the book very clearly, so it was on to something.
Definitely the worst book in the series. There was a 10 year gap between the first and second one, and it shows in the quality of the writing. Still throws you in at the deep end with nary a frame of reference though. Different continent, different army...some of the same characters, but not many.
But the Chain of Dogs, which makes up a large portion the second book...that's a mini-rollercoaster all on its own. How do you defend a city's worth of refugees when crossing a continent for the only safe port still left standing? Why does Apsalar have memories of the early days of the Malazan command? Why are the rebels so convinced Aren will fall? Why did Korbolo Dom turn traitor and will Kalam succeed in his mission to kill Laseen? Every single one of those things throws a spanner in everything that was previously established and then some. And spanners will inevitably be thrown into those events in subsequent books.
It seems our spambots have learned a new trick. They're using gmail accounts, but breaking up the account name with an implausible number of full stops, so it'd read something like Th.e.goodr.ever.en.drog.er@gmail.com
Presumably this is to make it harder to search them via Google for proof of their spamminess. But when seven all sign up in a few minutes of each other...it does kinda give the game away.
Damnit, foiled again!
I'll have to figure out a new solution. Maybe pick the top 20 most common English language names, a list of common adjectives, and a list of pop culture references, and create gmail accounts with the format:
(adjective)(name/pop culture ref)(optionally 2 random numbers or 4 numbers beginning in 19)@gmail.com
You know, like 80% of the English speaking world does already.
Machine-learning bots?
Quote from: The Johnny on December 15, 2019, 09:01:13 PM
Machine-learning bots?
Yeah, they have broken the google captcha which is irritating as that has worked for years.
Quote from: nullified on December 15, 2019, 01:38:50 AM
On further reflection this is probably the first time I've been feeling this good with no outside intervention.
No one made today happen. I own this awesome shit. I did this for myself. No one stuck their head in to help. No one stepped out of their way and said "let me help" or "I'm paying." I did this. I did all of this. No one else can lay claim to one moment of it.
I did this.
Which means I can do it again. And again.
Which means I can save it up and do BETTER.
That's a fucking incredibly good feeling. Being able to take full credit for your own awesome day. Goddamn.
Rock on, Null!
:canuck:
Welp. I fractured a molar cusp a while back. Missed the nerve, thankfully, but I'm potentially looking down the barrel of a $770 dental bill on Friday - possible root canal plus the temporary crown. And then the regular crown next year, probably, and my deductible starts over so that'll be almost entirely out of pocket on a paycheck where I only got three weeks of pay. More than usual bc long term subbing pays a bit more but still.
The waiting room has a horde of zombie Russians in it. :lulz:
The last week has felt like a siege. I haven't gotten the stopforumspam api integrated yet but I was playing with it yesterday, the plugin for smf stopped being updated like five years ago so it takes a bit of tweaking to get going with the forum.
If that doesn't work then it will need to be an extra step (text message or something), to lock it down.
Sorry I know the bar isn't the place to talk about the horrors in the kitchen.
I may be in Houston next year for a few days for work but no idea when. I came second in a blood bowl league after spending 15 years avoiding games workshop stuff. I love my orcs now. I've had three sinus infections in a row all needing anti-biotics and my throat is on fire right now (I'm a crock). Herself is getting on well with the pregnancy, and we had the scan yesterday and all looks well, not going to find out the sex until the baby is born.
I know nothing about forum tech, but is it possible to redirect them to another forum? Preferably one you are not fond of.
Quote from: Frontside Back on December 19, 2019, 01:39:14 AM
I know nothing about forum tech, but is it possible to redirect them to another forum? Preferably one you are not fond of.
The other forum is already full of them, too. There is no law of conservation when it comes to spammers. Like a noisome and noxious fart, they expand to fill the space available.
Quote from: Faust on December 18, 2019, 11:42:05 PM
The last week has felt like a siege. I haven't gotten the stopforumspam api integrated yet but I was playing with it yesterday, the plugin for smf stopped being updated like five years ago so it takes a bit of tweaking to get going with the forum.
If that doesn't work then it will need to be an extra step (text message or something), to lock it down.
Sorry I know the bar isn't the place to talk about the horrors in the kitchen.
I may be in Houston next year for a few days for work but no idea when. I came second in a blood bowl league after spending 15 years avoiding games workshop stuff. I love my orcs now. I've had three sinus infections in a row all needing anti-biotics and my throat is on fire right now (I'm a crock). Herself is getting on well with the pregnancy, and we had the scan yesterday and all looks well, not going to find out the sex until the baby is born.
Houston is a neat town, but for God's sake, if you weren't born there, don't try to drive there. Use an Uber.
Oh, and don't worry about the bots. It's actually getting kind of funny, and you can spot them 100% of the time now, due to the stops and periods they put in the names to get past the gmail anti-spam.
Yeah it seems to be mostly those ones these days. The ones from random-ass sites seem to have stopped almost entirely.
I only mentioned them because the bodies were piling up and I can't delete them.
I'm just banning them. Otherwise they'll no doubt come back in a couple of days and try to sign up again.
Same I am not deleting them, I'm banning them so a record is created, that's why they switched to the letter thing, I'd say we have banned most of eastern europes email hosts at this stage. I can patch it to remove the dots as they are ignored (gmail you can log in as Mike.Harlem@ or Mi.KeHarlem etc) and that should clear out this latest swath of Walkers.
https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q2ry3wlGMp1wm4zq5.mp4
This video struck four people dead. I was one of them.
Quote from: nullified on December 20, 2019, 03:53:19 AM
https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q2ry3wlGMp1wm4zq5.mp4
This video struck four people dead. I was one of them.
That fucking cockatoo is 2020 coming right at our faces. :fnord:
That is a powerful familiar
Merry Christmas, fuckos.
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.
I gotta ask: What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.
I gotta ask: What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
A couple days ago, I went into a store to buy some new gloves. Not only were they playing Christmas music, but it was
country Christmas music.
And they didn't have gloves in my size.
So I burned the store down.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on December 23, 2019, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.
I gotta ask: What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
A couple days ago, I went into a store to buy some new gloves. Not only were they playing Christmas music, but it was country Christmas music.
And they didn't have gloves in my size.
So I burned the store down.
I would vote to acquit.
I think the Null appellation online is reaching EOL for real world reasons.
I have a desire for a new title but have yet to find it.
Null is retired
Alter is the new hotness
Hey there newbie
Quote from: altered on December 24, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Null is retired
Alter is the new hotness
Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.
Did not even think of any of that, but it was nothing to do with my decision.
Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. It’s a good, meaningful title.
Then there was the catalyst: Control. That damn game has Altered Items (uncontrollable objects of horror and power) and it stuck in my head, and it just happened to fit too well.
Quote from: The Johnny on December 25, 2019, 01:04:19 AM
Quote from: altered on December 24, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Null is retired
Alter is the new hotness
Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.
Mine too, I remember vauge horrible nonsense but it's all generally blurred with the current ongoing horrible times everywhere.
I'm pretty sure it's alaskas problem either way which just demonstrates there's no escape from this shit. Rwhn is probably in a yurt somewhere ready to dispense pamphlets and bad tailoring advice to seekers in the Mongolian desert. Randpaul is in an antarctic research base. And so on.
Quote from: Faust on December 19, 2019, 03:02:38 PM
Same I am not deleting them, I'm banning them so a record is created, that's why they switched to the letter thing, I'd say we have banned most of eastern europes email hosts at this stage. I can patch it to remove the dots as they are ignored (gmail you can log in as Mike.Harlem@ or Mi.KeHarlem etc) and that should clear out this latest swath of Walkers.
Could you possibly let one in for a few hours? Assuming it's not dick pills I'm kind of curious what's being pushed so hard. Cain, deflection from crimean bridge or?
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 25, 2019, 01:49:18 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 25, 2019, 01:04:19 AM
Quote from: altered on December 24, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Null is retired
Alter is the new hotness
Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.
Mine too, I remember vauge horrible nonsense but it's all generally blurred with the current ongoing horrible times everywhere.
I'm pretty sure it's alaskas problem either way which just demonstrates there's no escape from this shit. Rwhn is probably in a yurt somewhere ready to dispense pamphlets and bad tailoring advice to seekers in the Mongolian desert. Randpaul is in an antarctic research base. And so on.
Id rather imagine that Carpenter's "The Thing" made its way down to Alaska from Anctartica and infected their brains.
Quote from: altered on December 25, 2019, 01:14:00 AM
Did not even think of any of that, but it was nothing to do with my decision.
Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. It's a good, meaningful title.
Then there was the catalyst: Control. That damn game has Altered Items (uncontrollable objects of horror and power) and it stuck in my head, and it just happened to fit too well.
I'm not implying it has anything to do with it, it just triggered a memory of mine. Anyways, I'm glad you feel that way about yourself.
I don't miss Alty one little bit. He was and is a shitbag.
So I am just fine with Altered.
Remember the time we trolled Facebook in about 2011? Turns out that a friend I made this year is one of the people who got sucked into that group back when it was active. :lulz: he was living like 200 miles away at the time.
Speaking of which, I am in Facebook jail again until 1/27, for taunting hayseed snowflakes.
What exactly did you do this time?
Quote from: Juana on December 28, 2019, 08:31:01 PM
What exactly did you do this time?
Some inbred was being abusive to some lady in Canada. Standard appeal to ridicule, passive-aggressive threatening shit.
And then you said "Your an idiot."
I jumped and said "*You're. Goddamn hayseeds."
So snowflake reported me.
:lulz: that's an interesting reason to temp ban.
Quote from: Juana on December 28, 2019, 10:48:24 PM
:lulz: that's an interesting reason to temp ban.
You have to remember who Zucc is recruiting as moderators.
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.
Quote from: Juana on December 29, 2019, 04:52:20 AM
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.
Sure. Now go on there and say "Men are trash."
Your butt will leave skidmarks on your way into your jail cell.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2019, 06:04:59 AM
Quote from: Juana on December 29, 2019, 04:52:20 AM
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.
Sure. Now go on there and say "Men are trash."
Your butt will leave skidmarks on your way into your jail cell.
Their moderation is "engagement" based. In short if they think whatever horrible shit people are spouting will cause more clicks, more responses etc it's ok in their eyes.
If an incel sees "men are trash" they might not click on the website for a couple of days so that is explicitly verboden
Soooooooo talk about your eleventh hour saves
I have TWO DAYS before I'm on the street and out of work all at once
Everyone is out of options
There is no hope, and the tracks have run out and I am in free fall and everyone else is like "if we could help we would", literally hundreds of people failing to find answers for me over a six month period
Then my friend Alec steps in and goes "I GOT THIS, stand back" and lays out:
A job
Connections to a place to live, FUNCTIONAL ones
A shower and temporary shit-storage/crash pad
Food costs that make my hideous appetite bearable
THE SOLUTION
All in one go. Like a fucking badass. Just slapping cards down like "take your pick buddy I GOT YOU."
And I have money to not only transport my worthless ass and everything I own out to Chicago, but to pay rent for a month no questions asked and STILL eat like a queen. Fuck you reality, it's HANDLED.
I'm ready to SHIT.
Tomorrow I quit my job I guess! :lulz: It's gonna be a fucking SOMETHING. I get paid Wednesday EITHER WAY, and the amount is locked in! I cannot lose! I'm going to river dance on the carcass of Fate while gnawing it's legs off and look fabulous doing it, I CANNOT BE FUCKING STOPPED, no one has ever managed it before and Boston sure as fuck won't be the dingdingding winner of this fucking round
Quote from: altered on December 25, 2019, 01:14:00 AM
Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. It's a good, meaningful title.
I dig it. Hi, altered! :wave:
I am spoiled for choice.
Last minute. Literal MOMENTS after I tell my supervisor I quit. Three people step forward and offer support and options.
I still am packing my stuff for Chicago because there's no promise here, but there are solid leads. And my supervisor let me take it back and have some days off instead.
Quote from: altered on December 30, 2019, 05:48:30 PM
I am spoiled for choice.
Last minute. Literal MOMENTS after I tell my supervisor I quit. Three people step forward and offer support and options.
I still am packing my stuff for Chicago because there's no promise here, but there are solid leads. And my supervisor let me take it back and have some days off instead.
A job that asks you to stay when you quit has some potential for fun.
I have that effect on places I work. I do good work. At my best, I do loads of good work.
I quit my first job six months after I got it because I was dissatisfied with my own work performance. They begged me to come back one year later.
Quote from: altered on December 30, 2019, 06:27:34 PM
I have that effect on places I work. I do good work. At my best, I do loads of good work.
I quit my first job six months after I got it because I was dissatisfied with my own work performance. They begged me to come back one year later.
Sounds like you get bored.
I do get bored. I need a challenge and a goal to keep focused. I hate these shit low level garbage jobs.
The challenge is digging my way out of the cesspool and the goal is one gasp of air.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=iSRTsQbW9qk&time_continue=180
No lies detected. And my family want to move back there (admittedly to a part that is never going to catch on fire, but still...)
HHAHAHAHA
IT LIVES
It feels like a fucking hallucination but thanks to a couple Christmas gift cards and a stupid sale for it, I have one of those insipid console briefcase thingies, and I spent fifty dollars of my own money on it around Christmas.
After some minor hiccups, I finally have my PS4 lodged in it like a bad tooth and ... it works! A year and a half of storage didn't break the console, and for FIFTY DOLLARS having a debatably portable PlayStation 4 and TV is heaven. I know what my Amtrak ride is gonna consist of!
Also I wasn't kidding about it feeling hallucinatory: check this shit out
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/159054473719709696/661736363279777819/IMG_2782.jpg)
Control will definitely help with feeling hallucinatory
Incidentally I am playing it at the moment, it's awesome
I beat it on a friend's PS4 over the course of a work week, and I'm ready to start from scratch on my own PS4.
I could rant for hours about it. It's as close to a perfect game for me as I'm likely to ever get.
I hadn't even heard of Control before you mentioned it in the video game thread, but now my interest is piqued.
I guess I haven't talked enough about my taste in video games around here to ask if it's a good recommendation, so:
I mostly play JRPGs. My experience in the horror genre is largely limited to a few From Software titles (Demon's Souls and Bloodborne* in particular), but I would also be interested if Control was on the weirder side, like Shadow Hearts or Nier. Basically, if a game can take my brain somewhere it couldn't get on its own, I'm likely to receive it favourably.
*I got to the point where I could quote Micolash verbatim. Partly because his words resonated, partly because I died a lot.
You'll love it.
I say that without reservation, having played every game you named. (Also, ORIGINAL Nier, not Automata. Nice.)
It's quite like Bloodborne, Shadow Hearts and Nier (and I'd add El Shaddai to that list, because homoerotic 3D genre mashed beatemup based on the Books of Enoch is definitely a one-off, which makes me SO SAD) in that it is one of a kind, nothing exists like it, and nothing will ever exist like it again. Things may try, but the magic is FAR too specific to dial in on it without skirting plagiarism.
You'll love it. No question.
ETA: also, if you don't go apeshit over the Ashtray Maze, you are not actually human. Not fucking joking. It's so good it's practically a meme anyway, but with your taste in music you'll probably shit yourself in glee.
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).
I really liked Neir Automata (haven't played the others), I had written it off as creepy fan service because of the character designs but a friend said to try it, and it was one of the best games I played last year, great story great emotional depth and great dystopia, its an excellent game despite the main character appearing like a little girl in a cocktail dress (fucking anime, fucking japan).
I'm going to try out Kojima's deliveroo game next but it doesn't look fun
Death Stranding is a game I just won't play. I have too many games to play, and I hate most of them, so I've started putting unrealistic and stupid criteria in:
It's gay, the protagonist is a woman or of ambiguous gender (nb, monster, animal, robot), or I make my own player character.
Interesting fact: once you cut the floating cruft of "generic gruff white dude" games, much of what is left is actually pretty good. And this works almost universally, you just lose out on Resident Evils 4 and 7 and end up with 6 instead. You also lose all of Silent Hill except SH3, which is kind of sucky ... but the alternative is Bulletstorm and Duke Nukem. And Call of Duty. Again.
A friend of mine has a requirement that a game have axes for melee weapons. Another friend requires a child or a friendly animal be part of the marketing material. Same thing there. The concept is just reducing the amount of generic AAA GOTY garbage in your to-play list by identifying traits most of that sort of crud either lack or have, then using that criteria to exclude them.
As such, I will not be delivering boxes across a fucked up wasteland with Norman Reedus.
If it helps better relate to your interests that's good:
Untitled Goose Game
Hollow knight
Cuphead
Detroit
and Horizon zero dawn
Would all be things I've played last year that fall under that.
As long as the game has a quality, if it does something well, explores an interesting new idea, or just has a good story but is a bit wonky I'll play it.
Your system does have a flaw though if you miss out on Resi 7 and instead get that piece of shit resi 6, and it excludes silent hill 2, which is still the best narrative game, and best horror game of all time and should automatically be on everyone's list regardless of criteria.
Quote from: altered on January 02, 2020, 09:01:48 AM
Death Stranding is a game I just won't play.
[...]
As such, I will not be delivering boxes across a fucked up wasteland with Norman Reedus.
Fucking Jeff Bezo's delivery-slave simulator... I loved "P.T." and im a bit of a Metal Gear fanatic... ive watched the "cinematic movie" playthroughs of all the games at least 3 times and this Death Stranding is so unnecesarily and artificially pretentious to distract people from its shallowness of a AAA game, alongside exploiting "brand-names" such as Reedus, Del Toro and Mikkelsen for the same purpose.
MAYBE the "transporting-and-terrain micro-mechanics" are enough to make the game entertaining? Cause those do exist and there was work put into them... just the story and themes are so basic is what's making me angry.
I dunno, I've always found the same true of metal gear, they are all gaudy pretentious fetishisation of Americana and western culture, it's part of the charm. Using the celebs though does feel like Kojima is very much a scenester. He is very much in the mind of the overlap between movies and games, but it does highlight, it always feels jarring when they use their actual faces, same with Beyond two souls.
There is an exception: Saints Row, in parodying Mass Effect instead of having Admiral Anderson, you literally get the voice actor Keith David (navigating the ship), and in parodying the "complex" romance system of mass effect, you get a hotkeyed romance button, that Keith David turns you down on.
Keith David was definitely the highlight of Saints Row 4.
"I was 12 hours into Dead Island when the Zin attacked. Now I'll never finish. I won't forgive them for that."
Quote from: Faust on January 02, 2020, 08:34:11 AM
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).
Same, I must have beaten Bloodborne seven times now. (and dark souls 1 probably a dozen times)
Sekiro was great, but I did miss the ability to try on fancy dresses and hats. And the setting/story wasn't anywhere near as rich as any other From soft game. But that gameplay tho!
Control looks cool, but I don't really get into shooters. Like I couldn't even enjoy Bioshock or big chunks of The Last of Us because shooting bad guys with guns just doesn't do it for me (unless it's in 2d).
Quote from: altered on January 02, 2020, 04:43:52 AM
You'll love it.
I say that without reservation, having played every game you named. (Also, ORIGINAL Nier, not Automata. Nice.)
I've played both, and though Automata has better gameplay and production value, OG Nier's raw, unfiltered originality makes it a better reference. Also, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyvQfn30uE).
I also play the "Tales of" series, and Persona, but that's neither here nor there.I'll see if I can find a physical copy of Control locally; if not, there's always digital.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 02, 2020, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 02, 2020, 08:34:11 AM
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).
Same, I must have beaten Bloodborne seven times now. (and dark souls 1 probably a dozen times)
Sekiro was great, but I did miss the ability to try on fancy dresses and hats.
Father Gascoigne's hat is best hat.
I never really got into Dark Souls 1, for some reason. My play order was Demon's Souls -> Bloodborne -> DS1 -> Sekiro. After Bloodborne, DS1 felt like a step back. Bloodborne had better gameplay, and DS1 never managed to replicate that horrible tingling sensation I got from the Prison of Hope in Demon's Souls.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 02, 2020, 03:09:08 PM
Persona
Persona 5 was awesome, probably the only JRPG I've been able to do other than final fantasy, and though it has some cool themes it is a lot of style over substance, love the soundtrack and look. Tried making some of the bubbles and things theme for SMF last year but gave up and made the flat green theme that I love but everyone else hates.
I was an FF fanboy in days long past, but fell off the bandwagon after FF13. FF12 had some good ideas, but wasted its potential; FF13 was just another JRPG with annoying characters.
There's a lot of hype surrounding the imminent FF7 remake, but I'm not feeling it. Sure, it looks great, but I have no confidence in modern Square-Enix's capacity to refrain from injecting bad melodrama into the substrate.
I'm actually replaying FF12 right now.
I dig the gambit system - I like the idea of writing your own tiny AI scripts to automate character behavior.
But jesus christ, the dialog in this game is absurdly overwrought. Everybody talks like Kuzzik from Role Models (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfs2soQHFIM), but very serious.
like nobody in this universe can just say "see you tomorrow", they have to say "Let us part ways until such time that the golden sun crests the horizon of tomorrow and I gaze again upon thy visage, again. Rub a dub dub."
Quote from: Faust on January 02, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
If it helps better relate to your interests that's good:
Untitled Goose Game
Hollow knight
Cuphead
Detroit
and Horizon zero dawn
Would all be things I've played last year that fall under that.
As long as the game has a quality, if it does something well, explores an interesting new idea, or just has a good story but is a bit wonky I'll play it.
Your system does have a flaw though if you miss out on Resi 7 and instead get that piece of shit resi 6, and it excludes silent hill 2, which is still the best narrative game, and best horror game of all time and should automatically be on everyone's list regardless of criteria.
I got strict about my system well after I beat RE7. And besides, I still have the RE:Revelations games and 1, 2, 3, and Code Veronica. That's not a bad list at all.
Anyway the actual goal is to leave me time for the games I want to play. It's stricter now because I have more options that are really good and fulfill the requirements, but when I run low on those I'll relax the criteria again.
Im currently playing Final Fantasy Tactics A2...
Personally the best RPG ive played has been the original Final Fantasy Tactics... the story is great, you dont exist in a random encounter purgatory of souls, and the job progression system, i just love it - but I dont think it has much replay value, unfortunately.
A2 is less about the story but about running contract missions, where the objectives are always different, also the terrain and the opponent types, so its very engaging.
Other news!
My body is reacting to me buying an Amtrak ticket with fight-or-flight because every time I travel normally, it's for stressful reasons.
This time, it's for the FUTURE.
Anyway I apparently have PTSD for long distance transit now! Exciting, isn't it?
Quote from: altered on January 02, 2020, 06:07:19 PM
Other news!
My body is reacting to me buying an Amtrak ticket with fight-or-flight because every time I travel normally, it's for stressful reasons.
This time, it's for the FUTURE.
Anyway I apparently have PTSD for long distance transit now! Exciting, isn't it?
I just hate air travel so much that I experience stress symptoms even when packed to the gills with benzodiazapine. It's not fight or flight with me, it is just sheer loathing.
Today marks 180 days since I have measured my blood sugar in 3 digits. My doctor is now telling me my A1C is a little low and I should relax a bit.
But I have also lost 50 pounds in the last couple of years, and I now have an almost flat stomach for the first time since I left the army.
I, on the other hand, routinely ingest three grams of sugar in a single sitting and look like a gaki.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/yokai/images/a/ad/Gaki.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170208025404)
On my way to quit my job again! :lulz:
This past two weeks are fucking surreal. It's ridiculous. Reality is falling over, clutching its chest, speaking word salad, and I'm just staring in dim surprise, looking around to see if anyone else is aware of the great fucking gaps in cause and effect.
Quote from: altered on January 03, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
On my way to quit my job again! :lulz:
This past two weeks are fucking surreal. It's ridiculous. Reality is falling over, clutching its chest, speaking word salad, and I'm just staring in dim surprise, looking around to see if anyone else is aware of the great fucking gaps in cause and effect.
If I were in your shoes, right this moment, I'd be stapling my pants to my chair at work, insanity notwithstanding. This lovely job market has about 3-4 months left to it.
Oof. Time to apply like mad before education gets hit again.
Fortunately for me, I'll be working again before January is over.
I wouldn't have quit without a good reason. Company stupidity is an opportunity, not a reason to quit. Homelessness with a location lined up elsewhere that gets me a replacement job as a certainty and housing as an extremely strong possible is a reason to quit, period.
And make no mistake, this job is a certainty. I have two referrals from current workers there (they rate those very highly) and my resume, spotty though it is, says that I will be a credit to any company I work for.
I would kill to have more of January off, enjoy every delicious minute of it.
I just got news. The fix is in, I have this job in the bag.
The hiring manager who got my application apparently likes my application so much he has removed it from the general queue for special treatment. (As in it is being processed early.) My friend who referred me is being given the good nods.
It was not stated directly, but the impression I got is that there were arguments about who got to take credit for bringing me on board, and this hiring manager cut the Gordian knot by taking it without discussion or preamble while everyone else bickered.
Chicago is scary, man. :lulz:
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.
Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)
Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.
But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.
But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.
Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)
So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.
I forget to tell my best friends on this planet that I'm still alive for a month. (Hi QGP!) Assume good intentions.
But if you personally cannot deal with that kind of distance without being a bit worried, bring it up to her. It could be this thing was not going to work out from the start, or it could be a temporary state. Either way, you guys need to discuss it.
Doesn't need to be a big deal, but if you can't handle the distance and she needs it, I'd say cut it off. That sort of tension never ends happily without consequences.
If this current state is not what either of you want, try to tough it out, but keep communication open about how it's affecting you. Make a distinction between "same as it was" "better than it was" and "worse than it was" when talking about that, because if it's been consistently low-grade bad it's more important to talk about the consistency and low grade than the bad.
This is a socially crippled person giving you advice from my perspective. This therefore may or may not apply to you, but I feel these are good rules in general, for anyone, in any relationship (from acquaintances up to life partners).
Also, use a goddamn condom.
Don't get yourself all fucked up with these two snakes:
-This makes me feel bad, but
-That's just how she is
Quote from: LMNO on January 08, 2020, 01:28:05 PM
Also, use a goddamn condom.
SERIOUSLY
you say "i usually distrust more than trust", but not using a condom tells another story
Quote from: The Johnny on January 08, 2020, 07:46:52 AM
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.
Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)
Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.
But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.
But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.
Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)
So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.
Sometimes you just gotta take a chance.
Just so you all know, I have not had much to say, and working a lot of overtime, but I have been lurking faithfully and keeping up with the threads as best I can. There's so much going on personally and globally that I don't know what all to say. So I'm just saying "Hi, I'm still here."
Also I might add, "We are all fucked." but you almost certainly know that already.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 08, 2020, 07:46:52 AM
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.
Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)
Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.
But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.
But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.
Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)
So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.
I feel like if there's legitimate interest in you and a stated willingness for an exclusive relationship, you should try to just take her at her word. I wouldn't be worried that the distance she keeps between you is necessarily because she's involved with someone else -- if her relationships have been abusive, it may just be that she genuinely needs this relationship to exist solely on her terms, at least for now. If you can handle the space, let her have it. Let your relationship feel tentative and let it move as slowly or as quickly as she decides to move it, even if it seems to go back and forth. I really think the most dangerous thing (to your relationship) would be to make her feel like she
owes you her attention. If that is asking to much of you, be up front with her about it.
@altered: Yeah, like, I think I can handle the distance, my main issue was making sense out of it, and typing it out and expressing it and seeing the replies helped a lot with that. It's obviously not the closeness i want in the long term, but I think I can wait to see how it develops for some months. A year ago and before I was just being an ethical slut until it became unfulfilling, so I dont mind trying something new for a change.
@LMNO, Cram: I normally use protection and I know I should, and it came more out of a show of commitment rather than born out of trusting like you interpreted. This is the 2nd time I do it in my entire life without it, 1st time was 16 years ago when i was dumb (im still dumb but in a different way). I know STDs are a thing and a risk, but I wouldnt had done it with some random girl from Tinder or whatever. Pregnancy isnt an issue, subject has come up over the years and neither wants descendancy, and shes got her tubes cut and this 2.5inch horizontal scar to prove it.
@Dok: Yeah, its complicated, but I know id kick myself in the future if i didnt try now, whatever the outcome.
@Vex: Yeah, overall i try to give her some space, and thats like the gist of the whole thing, since part of the abuse she went thru was about control of her time, outings and people she communicated with.
There's an awful lot of games of thrones-ing at my work for it being a middle school.
Now that I'm actually inspecting closely Wagner's "The Ring of the Nibelung Cycle" and examining the 3rd Act of The Valkyrie... what a fucking shitlord Coppola is with what he did with "Apocalypse Now" which is a tell-tale sign of american culture.
"The Ride of the Valkyries" is originally about, Wotan's valkyries recruiting worthy warriors that have fallen, to protect Valhalla from power-hungry Alberich.... meanwhile in the film, it's used as music to glorify and make slaughtering villagers seem/feel as something heroic.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 10, 2020, 09:06:13 AM
Now that I'm actually inspecting closely Wagner's "The Ring of the Nibelung Cycle" and examining the 3rd Act of The Valkyrie... what a fucking shitlord Coppola is with what he did with "Apocalypse Now" which is a tell-tale sign of american culture.
"The Ride of the Valkyries" is originally about, Wotan's valkyries recruiting worthy warriors that have fallen, to protect Valhalla from power-hungry Alberich.... meanwhile in the film, it's used as music to glorify and make slaughtering villagers seem/feel as something heroic.
Is that what you took from that scene?
Yeah, I have to ask the same
Are you aware of Wagner's politics and the role his own music had in the volkisch renaissance under Hitler?
Well, I made it through the Christmas season, once again without being tortured and tormented and brainwashed, by ghosts or waifish children, into understanding the true meaning of Christmas.
So that's a win.
Did you win the Wham! challenge though?
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2020, 02:36:16 PM
Did you win the Wham! challenge though?
This Christmas season I learned that both Ariana Grande and Ashley Tisdale have done covers of that song.
Getting pedicures during the holidays can be
dangerous.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 01:56:04 PM
Is that what you took from that scene?
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2020, 02:22:43 PM
Yeah, I have to ask the same
Are you aware of Wagner's politics and the role his own music had in the volkisch renaissance under Hitler?
Yes, although its been around a decade since ive watched "Apocalypse".
And well, I do learned that the last thing the Berlin (?) orchestra played was Brunnhildes self-immolation scene, and that Hagen backstabbing Siegfried was taken as a metaphor to how certain segments of the population "backstabbed the war effort and caused them to lose WWI".
But the opera is from the 1870s so I dont think its accountable for the interpretation it was given? Im not aware of Wagners political stances, besides being the king's, whats it called? Protege? I mean, personally sponsored by him.
He was an ardent German nationalist who despised Jews and was part of the milieu of German nationalist "romanticists" who set the popular culture groundwork for National Socialism in Germany.
Nietzsche broke off his friendship with the man over his political stances.
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/
I just heard a funk cover of Hanson's "Mm-bop" and...
...It's a really good song.
This causes me anguish. It makes me doubt everything I understand about the universe. It feels unjust.
Also, there is a trope concerning the cover craze.
If there is a female singer, the camera will *always* be focused on her left tit. No matter what.
I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/
Oh ok, this "Rienzi" opera is literally Hitler's political career, and I see Wagner wrote anti-semitic stuff and was one.
Tho I still dont understand what you guys imply that is wrong with my interpretation of the Valkyries and Apocalypse Now.
Also, biographically speaking I can see how Wagner's anti-capitalist discourse can be equated to his hatred for jews, but i think his anti-capitalist discourse in the Nibelungs opera isnt overtly tied to anti-semitism, at least within the work itself.
Wagner's work is inextricably tied to his Nazi legacy in Europe and most of North America. Ask who is Hitler's favourite composer and Wagner will invariably be the answer.
Taking that into account, what do you think Coppola was trying to say with that scene? Especially contrasted against the scene in which it was actually in for Wagner's work?
Also Wagner's antisemitism was notable even at the time, and anti-semitism and anticapitalist thinking were often conjoined, ironically with an equal fear of "Jewish socialism" on the other hand. The "Jewish capital" of Wall Street and London and the "Jewish socialism" of urban society (and, well after he was dead, the Soviet Union) was a common theme of writings of the time, which saw them as two false choices pushed by the Jews to undermine nationalism.
Nietzsche also wrote quite extensively in his own work about Wagner's virulent hatred of Jews, whom Nietzsche himself considered some of the best and most cultured people in Europe.
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/
I'm teaching the Holocaust rn aaaand I'm gonna be digging through that site. Thank you!
Quote from: Juana on January 11, 2020, 01:59:43 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/
I'm teaching the Holocaust rn aaaand I'm gonna be digging through that site. Thank you!
No worries, it's a recent find but they seem to cite the right sources, so it's a very useful one indeed.
Why the fuck do people keep adding me to FB Discordian groups?
If I wanted my Discordia with confederate fucking flags, I'd ask for it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OKupqJ1qKL0
I forgot about my alarm after a week of not using it. I had recently maxed out my alarm volume for other reasons.
I woke up instantly.
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2020, 01:28:04 AM
Wagner's work is inextricably tied to his Nazi legacy in Europe and most of North America. Ask who is Hitler's favourite composer and Wagner will invariably be the answer.
Taking that into account, what do you think Coppola was trying to say with that scene? Especially contrasted against the scene in which it was actually in for Wagner's work?
Also Wagner's antisemitism was notable even at the time, and anti-semitism and anticapitalist thinking were often conjoined, ironically with an equal fear of "Jewish socialism" on the other hand. The "Jewish capital" of Wall Street and London and the "Jewish socialism" of urban society (and, well after he was dead, the Soviet Union) was a common theme of writings of the time, which saw them as two false choices pushed by the Jews to undermine nationalism.
Nietzsche also wrote quite extensively in his own work about Wagner's virulent hatred of Jews, whom Nietzsche himself considered some of the best and most cultured people in Europe.
WTF I love the Blues Brothers even more now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9N7v5qGig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9N7v5qGig)
:lulz: I'd forgotten all about that.
Yeah, that definitely wasn't an accident.
I hate everything and I only want to die.
Aw noo....
Fall in a hole, go missing.
I think they're eating these folks.
https://apnews.com/1fbf694d4fc67b6a3b8feafbe9ae0a2f
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 02:32:36 PM
I hate everything and I only want to die.
*catches on fire and runs shrieking into a fluorine production facility*
Hamish Howl,
A formal response to your request delivered via The Facebook
Regards
(https://i.imgur.com/xeH5kXd.png)
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:21:57 PM
Fall in a hole, go missing.
I think they're eating these folks.
https://apnews.com/1fbf694d4fc67b6a3b8feafbe9ae0a2f
1000 emergency workers? What the actual fuck, don't they have anything better to do?
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:48:52 PM
Hamish Howl,
A formal response to your request delivered via The Facebook
Regards
The original quote was from the discord, where I was making fun of the two mods that think they have to run the place like a prison camp.
I know who you mean and they are a bit over the top at times, yeah.
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
I know who you mean and they are a bit over the top at times, yeah.
The Godless Mingle Effect: How to go from 28,000 members to 6 people posting.
It's the classic example of what happens when you take people who have no agency in their lives and make them mods.
Like Memnoch, only less toxic.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 12:42:04 AM
I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
?? https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE
Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 12:42:04 AM
I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
?? https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE
Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.
I like it.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:52:46 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 12:42:04 AM
I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
?? https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE
Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.
I like it.
Same. My commentary seemed a bit underwhelming, but that's about as much mental and physical enthusiasm I can muster right now. "Not terrible" is/was a sort of inside joke with my Dad when he was still alive, and still is with my family, and generally doesn't mean terrible or bad at all.
I can't believe it's been over 20 years since that came out.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:52:46 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 12:42:04 AM
I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
?? https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE
Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.
I like it.
Oh, I just couldn't find it on my own, didnt know it wasnt just a bunch of randoms twisting badly the original intent of the song.
Now that I know the context, its moving, i like it now.
Wanted to thank you again, Cain, for that link. I used one of the camp songs for an assignment today and it fits the theme of this unit a lot better than the one in the stupid book.
:lulz:
I found an excellent use for Atlas Shrugged!
It keeps the cats from knocking my stupid gaming briefcase thing shut. Perfect fit to be wedged in there without putting pressure on anything or blocking the vents.
Someone where I'm living had a copy as a prize for some writing contest and offered it as the ideal solution to my woes. Sure enough... :lulz:
Seems like the last time I posted in Open Bar was when Nullified came to Boston
-Quit my shitty second job
-I should be wrapping up my data collection for my master's this month
-I'm dragging on that because I've had a near continuous headache/neckache on the left side of my head for the past two weeks and have spent most of it on the couch. I went into the lab a couple of times, but since movement exacerbates everything, I'm real reluctant to take bumpy public transportation for 90 minutes each way. Doctor was unconcerned and I'm not dead yet so it's probably ok outside of the near continuous at best discomfort
-BUT! I might finally have a third professor for my committee
-I currently have a certain optimism that I'm suspicious of
-People sometimes ask me how married life is. It's exactly the same as cohabitating life except now I wear a ring. I suppose that's what happens when you wait 8 years to propose
Quote from: altered on January 15, 2020, 03:22:13 AM
I found an excellent use for Atlas Shrugged!
It keeps the cats from knocking my stupid gaming briefcase thing shut. Perfect fit to be wedged in there without putting pressure on anything or blocking the vents.
Just don't let anyone see you with it in public; it might lead to awkward questions. Obscure the cover with dried blood, or something.
I've been stuck inside my flat since last friday waiting for a replacement key. Amount of boring is very therapeutic.
Today's low was -38 C, -52 with the windchill. I froze my nose-hair.
So that's where all the winter went...
e: looking at the weather maps makes me think that the denialists bought all the cold air from europe.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 15, 2020, 10:32:43 PM
Today's low was -38 C, -52 with the windchill. I froze my nose-hair.
You live in Jack London's bad dreams.
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. It's black and white, the man is on the left side.
I'm being told that it doesn't exist. I need to show them they are wrong.
I brought this for LMNO.
Quote from: altered on January 19, 2020, 07:22:50 AM
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. It's black and white, the man is on the left side.
I'm being told that it doesn't exist. I need to show them they are wrong.
is this it (https://66.media.tumblr.com/791bded9c1c130955693e5bf27a2fbed/889295149939ba52-9b/s500x750/14997787d86baa9b39bb891586130b2dc90d14c4.jpg)?
goddamit
Quote from: Cramulus on January 20, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: altered on January 19, 2020, 07:22:50 AM
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. It's black and white, the man is on the left side.
I'm being told that it doesn't exist. I need to show them they are wrong.
is this it (https://66.media.tumblr.com/791bded9c1c130955693e5bf27a2fbed/889295149939ba52-9b/s500x750/14997787d86baa9b39bb891586130b2dc90d14c4.jpg)?
This is EXACTLY the sort of shit that got you excommunicated.
okay okay okay I'm sure I can find it....
Black and white, man on the left, burger appears piece by piece:
(http://www.nmsr.org/Blanch4.gif)
uhhhhhh
that can't be it...
Okay, lemme try again.
Black and white, man on the left, burger appears....
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/popeye/images/2/26/Wimpy_Ghost_Burgers.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20160912210053)
GOD DAMN IT
Unrelated to hamburgers:
As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.
For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015. :lulz:
So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS. :goatse:
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?
That's...
I mean...
Quote from: LMNO on January 21, 2020, 07:14:19 PM
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?
That's...
I mean...
Yes. I responded to a person on FB some time ago, and never heard back. Which is no big deal, happens regularly.
So I'm going through my account in preparation of my next ban expiration, and I find a PM from this person from like a week ago, saying why this person can't respond in public.
This will of course end well for everyone involved, and will make the original problem all better.
For a given value of "Marvin".
It.
Was.
Four.
Years.
Ago.
Seriously, some people...
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 04:51:17 PM
Unrelated to hamburgers:
As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.
For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015. :lulz:
So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS. :goatse:
I've mostly kept to myself about this shit because I see no gain in expressing my opinion about something that is absolutely not my business beyond the fact that it happened between two people I have respect for and consider friends and wish it was not so because it made be very uncomfortable emotionally. But I realized that expecting MY wishes to be somehow fulfilled by expressing MY opinion about YOUR business for the sake of MY comfort is stupid and childish at best. So I simply said nothing and went about my business. I think I made the right choice.
I'm only even chiming in now because this strikes me as truly ridiculous. Whoever said that to you is either genuinely worried about Nigel's possible negative reaction to seeing you interact, which I find unlikely, or they are trying to con you by tacitly agreeing with you by complaining about Nigel's potential reaction while seeking to somehow maintain a confidence with you in secret. To what end I don't know, but it's both stupid and essentially insulting to you both. They are basically saying that you would be an embarrassment to interact with publicly, but seeks to interact secretly despite this instead of just telling anyone that has a problem with it to fuck off, as is proper. They are cowardly and either stupid, think you are stupid, or both.
If it was really about you being "too mean" to Nigel they should just tell you so and stop interacting with you.
If they are really afraid that Nigel will somehow react in a manipulative or otherwise negative way to you interacting then they should cut her off as toxic and do as they please.
Instead of those things they are trying to have some sort of secret liaison with you while publicly maintaining what I can only assume at this point is an equally false friendship with Nigel.
You're 169% right to tell them to get fucked.
It would seem to me that this is just intentional shit stirring, and that's what was weird enough to provoke me to even post this reply. It's been years. What the fuck is there to gain from bringing it up at all?
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2020, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 04:51:17 PM
Unrelated to hamburgers:
As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.
For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015. :lulz:
So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS. :goatse:
I've mostly kept to myself about this shit because I see no gain in expressing my opinion about something that is absolutely not my business beyond the fact that it happened between two people I have respect for and consider friends and wish it was not so because it made be very uncomfortable emotionally. But I realized that expecting MY wishes to be somehow fulfilled by expressing MY opinion about YOUR business for the sake of MY comfort is stupid and childish at best. So I simply said nothing and went about my business. I think I made the right choice.
I'm only even chiming in now because this strikes me as truly ridiculous. Whoever said that to you is either genuinely worried about Nigel's possible negative reaction to seeing you interact, which I find unlikely, or they are trying to con you by tacitly agreeing with you by complaining about Nigel's potential reaction while seeking to somehow maintain a confidence with you in secret. To what end I don't know, but it's both stupid and essentially insulting to you both. They are basically saying that you would be an embarrassment to interact with publicly, but seeks to interact secretly despite this instead of just telling anyone that has a problem with it to fuck off, as is proper. They are cowardly and either stupid, think you are stupid, or both.
If it was really about you being "too mean" to Nigel they should just tell you so and stop interacting with you.
If they are really afraid that Nigel will somehow react in a manipulative or otherwise negative way to you interacting then they should cut her off as toxic and do as they please.
Instead of those things they are trying to have some sort of secret liaison with you while publicly maintaining what I can only assume at this point is an equally false friendship with Nigel.
You're 169% right to tell them to get fucked.
It would seem to me that this is just intentional shit stirring, and that's what was weird enough to provoke me to even post this reply. It's been years. What the fuck is there to gain from bringing it up at all?
I don't require that anyone do, feel, or say anything, take any side, or whatfuckingever.
I just don't want to hear about it anymore. For fuck's sake. :lol:
And you are 169% correct in that last paragraph, and this sort of thing just makes me automatically hostile. Not angry, just hostile.
Quote from: LMNO on January 21, 2020, 07:14:19 PM
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?
That's...
I mean...
I remember people pulling that shit on my sister in high school "I'll be your friend, but not in public" It's bullshit.
I'm really glad I deleted facebook, on forums you don't know who isn't talking to who until they loudly annouce it and we all get to take swipes at each other and get it out of our systems.
Quote from: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:43:40 PM
I'm really glad I deleted facebook, on forums you don't know who isn't talking to who until they loudly annouce it and we all get to take swipes at each other and get it out of our systems.
Every 30 day ban makes me want FB a little less.
To be honest I would be lining up a little shelf of those like trophies. Spite would probably have been the only thing that could have stopped me from getting rid of it
Quote from: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:47:19 PM
To be honest I would be lining up a little shelf of those like trophies. Spite would probably have been the only thing that could have stopped me from getting rid of it
I spent 55% of the last 12 months banned. My latest ban ends next Tuesday.
That's some good going, when the doctor says walk 10k steps a day, they should also say spend at least 50% of the year in FB jail
So, I scored a patent. :)
Very cool! What on?
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 02:40:15 AM
Very cool! What on?
A new method of controlling heater elements.
More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.
It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it. The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.
The Howling TGRR radiatorTM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 02:44:59 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 02:40:15 AM
Very cool! What on?
A new method of controlling heater elements.
More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.
It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it. The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.
That's pretty fucking awesome, man!
on a tangent, i spent sunday, monday, and half of yesterday attempting to recover from a cold and then couldnt fall asleep until like 2am. i am with a class today that, while i adore, regularly tests me and i am exhausted to the point of being a little loopy. they are under reign now but i had to threaten to eat them (not literally bc they
would have made that weird and also, i ain't ending up in the paper for a joke). i haven't seen them since september so that's to be expected but ugh. also, some other dumbass sub walked off with my folder so i don't have my keys and i am kinda pissed.
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 22, 2020, 06:01:25 AM
The Howling TGRR radiatorTM
Comes pre-banned in China!Apply directly to the forehead!Blown gasket included!Now 40% more malevelolent!
Congrats!
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 02:44:59 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 02:40:15 AM
Very cool! What on?
A new method of controlling heater elements.
More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.
It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it. The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.
That's pretty fucking awesome, man!
on a tangent, i spent sunday, monday, and half of yesterday attempting to recover from a cold and then couldnt fall asleep until like 2am. i am with a class today that, while i adore, regularly tests me and i am exhausted to the point of being a little loopy. they are under reign now but i had to threaten to eat them (not literally bc they would have made that weird and also, i ain't ending up in the paper for a joke). i haven't seen them since september so that's to be expected but ugh. also, some other dumbass sub walked off with my folder so i don't have my keys and i am kinda pissed.
I feel ya. Days like that....well, there's a reason I'm not currently in education.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2020, 11:33:02 AM
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 22, 2020, 06:01:25 AM
The Howling TGRR radiatorTM
Comes pre-banned in China!
Apply directly to the forehead!
Blown gasket included!
Now 40% more malevelolent!
The the first one on your block to blow up your block!
So this might have been one of my ancestors...:lulz:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-rock-ad-79-italy-eruption-part-exploded-004432956.html
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2020, 11:33:02 AM
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 22, 2020, 06:01:25 AM
The Howling TGRR radiatorTM
Comes pre-banned in China!
Apply directly to the forehead!
Blown gasket included!
Now 40% more malevelolent!
The the first one on your block to blow up your block!
And the last.
It's like a mic drop, only louder and more spectacular.
I have had my first experience with a verified hell cat.
Having saved at least twenty ferals and kept more than enough cats in my circles, I am awake at 4:30AM babysitting a cat who ate a royal fuckton of litter for the sake of eating litter.
We've done the health problems check. No chance of that being the issue.
Same cat will attack shoes if and only if you haven't worn them for a couple hours, aren't paying attention, and are within five feet of the resulting racket. Knocks over cups with water in them, and never empty ones or non-liquid holding containers. Tears the weather proofing out of the windows. Will keep you awake (to the point of claws and teeth) until you give up on sleep, then curl up in a chair nearby and go to sleep himself once you caffeinate.
I've had literally two dozen cats, minimum, and interacted with hundreds more, and this is the worst behaved one I've ever met.
And for me, the kicker is... Has a thousand toys and between 3 and 6 people AND another cat in the house who play with him all day long.
There is no call for this behavior! But he can't seem to function without actively trying to fuck with people. And he's definitely fucking with people: he never does damage when no ones around, and he will actively walk away from positive attention to knock over a water cup on someone's desk, get everyone screaming, then dash through the door into another room and start grooming himself like what, huh? Wasn't me! Been here the whole time!
I can say one positive thing. When he is informed that something IS A CABLE AND NOT FOOD he gets it and leaves it alone. I respect that.
I do not respect that instead, if he really wants to fuck with electronics, he'll knock water into them. Rat bastard.
I don't believe you, because science says cats are nice (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yp9n37/cats-are-nice).
#NotAllCats
https://media.giphy.com/media/dsQrgnnujXPDJTjFMX/source.mov (https://media.giphy.com/media/dsQrgnnujXPDJTjFMX/source.mov)
Or maybe the dog is being lulled into a false sense of security...
:lulz:
They are nice usually! I've been a cat rescuer and big fan of cats for ages, dealt with all kinds of behavioral issues, all of that. Most cats are legitimately wonderful, though sometimes difficult. This one is the exception.
If my only cat experience had been with one like this, I'd have never become a cat person at all. I can finally understand now how some people believe cats are hell demons by default, it's such a consistent pattern of FUCK YOU from this little guy. Absolutely not motivated by positive attention, food, comfort. Motivated exclusively by squirt bottles and watching everyone scream and run into each other in panic.
I think someone is vaguebooking about me but I can't tell because vaguebooking. So I'll be vague here for fun.
Quote from: alteredAbsolutely not motivated by positive attention, food, comfort. Motivated exclusively by squirt bottles and watching everyone scream and run into each other in panic.
Just a word to the wise, squirt bottles, if you are going to use them, require extreme stealth. Because if the cat knows YOU did it, he will just decide you're bad. And then you get the adversarial thing.
We never had that problem, but we did use the squirt bottle sparingly.
Often, the mere act of getting it out was enough to send them running.
The cats didn't want to engage in a war with you. Cats are smart.
They choose their victims carefully. I doubt you'll ever find catshit in your shoes. :lulz:
Quote from: altered on January 25, 2020, 10:38:31 AM
I have had my first experience with a verified hell cat.
...
And for me, the kicker is... Has a thousand toys and between 3 and 6 people AND another cat in the house who play with him all day long.
There is no call for this behavior! But he can't seem to function without actively trying to fuck with people. And he's definitely fucking with people: he never does damage when no ones around, and he will actively walk away from positive attention to knock over a water cup on someone's desk, get everyone screaming, then dash through the door into another room and start grooming himself like what, huh? Wasn't me! Been here the whole time!
So...is this cat someone's adored pet / beloved member of the family? My solution to unpleasant people is to avoid interaction with them, and if this cat is genuinely a asshole, why continue in an abusive relationship? I don't want to sound like a jerk, because I quite like cats (despite an allergy), but maybe donating him to a farm, or an animal shelter would be for the best.
Definitely a beloved family member. Not mine, of course, but...
Either way, he won't be getting shipped off. I'm willing to try and work with him, and he's better today, so.
Give it treats when it fucks up someone elses shit.
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.
Life cycle so far:
1. Starts as a tag group.
2. A few people take hold of it, jam content through the roof.
3. Too big for 3 admins.
4. Appoint mods from the most active users.
Boom. Failure point.
5. Mods make sooper secret admin chamber.
6. Mods spend more and more time in sooper secret admin chamber (remember that these were also the most active content creators).
7. Mods become more and more control freak in nature, as a feedback thing while in sooper secret admin chamber.
8. Mods posting on group reduced to weird blanket threats of banning people.
9. Mods begin banning people for using the wrong emote. Those who contribute to the owner's Patreon are immune, as are people who kiss enough ass. Mods begin to notice that 99% of the traffic is memes, can't figure out why.
10. Mods ostracize any mod that objects to weirdness.
11. Mods ban someone for using the wrong trigger words.
I can't say past that point, because that's when I quit. It was simply too ridiculous.
Those who have been here since the beginning of PD may notice the pattern.
The more I think about that, the more I want to channel GIGGLES.
We should all channel Giggles more often.
I don't really remember Giggles?
The teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 02:38:57 PM
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.
I dont have it in me for a rant, BUT, something about everyone having a secret anal control freak within that's dormant, waiting for the slightest excuse to be put into action - that's society and history for the most part.
Quote from: The Johnny on January 28, 2020, 07:53:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 02:38:57 PM
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.
I dont have it in me for a rant, BUT, something about everyone having a secret anal control freak within that's dormant, waiting for the slightest excuse to be put into action - that's society and history for the most part.
I have noticed that happens to everyone who has not been saddled with real authority in real life.
The 300th time you get your ass chewed because of things outside of your control, it wears a bit thin and becomes strictly administrative.
Quote from: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:37:28 PM
I don't really remember Giggles?
Nobody can remember GIGGLES. You just take a moment and thank Baby Jesus for the human ability to compartmentalize.
QuoteThe teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).
Well, I can't suggest Arizona. Our teachers have been fleeing as fast as they can, because the entire state hates them for being LIMOUSINE LIBRULS and so they don't get paid SHIT.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:37:28 PM
I don't really remember Giggles?
Nobody can remember GIGGLES. You just take a moment and thank Baby Jesus for the human ability to compartmentalize.
:lulz:
Quote
QuoteThe teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).
Well, I can't suggest Arizona. Our teachers have been fleeing as fast as they can, because the entire state hates them for being LIMOUSINE LIBRULS and so they don't get paid SHIT.
Yeah, he'll probably stay local bc he's got a family. Some of the districts around here pay, like, $60k for first year teachers, and he's not a first year. He's got his clear credential I think, so he'll probably be fine.
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply. :noodledance:
Quote from: Juana on January 29, 2020, 12:22:10 AM
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply. :noodledance:
wooooooooo!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 02:17:03 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 29, 2020, 12:22:10 AM
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply. :noodledance:
wooooooooo!
I'm pretty excited, though a little concerned I'll get offers at schools I avoid as a sub. One of my old professors who was not, technically, a direct supervisor (which is what they want) but directly say the impact I had on his abysmal pass rate when I was a tutor for him, has agreed to submit again for me. His letter got me the sub job I have now.
Friend of mine works some sort of helpdesk for DMV software or something of that nature, I know it involves license plates and background checks and lots of idiots. Somehow their email helpdesk@whatever.whatever got listed as the state help desk.
So naturally people are emailing it to try to stop some sort of chicken tossing event that is occuring in a small town. Because you email a helpdesk instead of a state representative or mayor or whatever to get things done.
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Quote from: Juana on January 30, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Then civil service was a good choice. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:05:28 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 30, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Then civil service was a good choice. :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?
Quote from: Juana on January 31, 2020, 03:24:49 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:05:28 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 30, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Then civil service was a good choice. :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?
Chainsaw juggler?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 31, 2020, 03:24:49 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:05:28 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 30, 2020, 09:36:56 PM
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Then civil service was a good choice. :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?
Chainsaw juggler?
I'm sure there's licenses to get for that, too.
I didn't have to jump through hoops. I work at a vineyard. Mind you, I make very little money, but I have very little hassle.
I didn't have to jump through them for hiring either when I started subbing, either, but now even to do THAT in my district, you have to take that horseshit test. Sitting here laughing tho bc the kids get the growth mindset spiel but the district is out here looking for "naturally talented" teachers.
Ever had a moment where you just can't wait to speak ill of the dead?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-advanced-lung-cancer
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 09:24:12 PM
Ever had a moment where you just can't wait to speak ill of the dead?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-advanced-lung-cancer
:news:
Fuck that guy.
Yeah. I mean, is it really speaking ill of the dead if you're willing to say they're a shitbag when they're alive also?
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2020, 10:40:29 PM
Yeah. I mean, is it really speaking ill of the dead if you're willing to say they're a shitbag when they're alive also?
Naw. If I hate the bastard now, I don't see the need to get all weepy when he croaks.
Three cheers for comrade lung cancer!
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.
You should really come back to 1979.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:09:17 PM
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.
You should really come back to 1979.
What's going on this week in 79?
Quote from: Cramulus on February 05, 2020, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:09:17 PM
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.
You should really come back to 1979.
What's going on this week in 79?
Got me a new pair of side-zippered roach stompers.
Air conditioning is optional.
Jimmy Carter is totally gonna kick Reagan's ass next year.
this week in 79, the hit was Do You Think I'm Sexy by Rod Stewart
it was a more civilized time
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant
Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
:fnord:
Quote from: The Johnny on February 06, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
:fnord:
(https://assets.radiox.co.uk/2015/30/billy-corgan-rollercoaster-1438009202-article-0.jpeg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhgpelu0vY
Quote from: Cramulus on February 06, 2020, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 06, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
:fnord:
(https://assets.radiox.co.uk/2015/30/billy-corgan-rollercoaster-1438009202-article-0.jpeg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhgpelu0vY
This made my morning measurably worse. :crankey:
Quote from: MMIX on February 05, 2020, 11:46:15 PM
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant
Yes, but in the UK the misery quotient was maxed from 1914 to the present. And THAT'S if you had money. Otherwise you had to go way the fuck back to 1100 CE before anyone was having a good time.
And the time machine can only go back to the disco era.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 05, 2020, 11:46:15 PM
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant
Yes, but in the UK the misery quotient was maxed from 1914 to the present. And THAT'S if you had money. Otherwise you had to go way the fuck back to 1100 CE before anyone was having a good time.
And the time machine can only go back to the disco era.
Fuck yeah. Well the law of averages says we got to be good at something so booyah for misery!
About a year ago, they told me some circuit cards at site were sporadically giving self-test errors on startup. I told them I couldn't diagnose this remotely, and they needed to send me one of the suspect units.
They didn't.
About three months ago, they brought up the issue again; I reiterated that I needed physical access to debug this.
I guess it wasn't a high priority.
A month ago, the same project recruited my help for a software problem, and afterward, asked me yet again to look at the cause of the card failures.
This time they left a pair of cards at my desk.
It took me about two days to find the problem, and create a workaround (which the end-customer will supposedly be happy about, since these cards are about eight years old, well out of warranty, and expensive to replace. )
I informed them of the fix, and told them they could take the cards back.
They haven't, yet.
I wonder if it will take another year for them to pick them up.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 06, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
About a year ago, they told me some circuit cards at site were sporadically giving self-test errors on startup. I told them I couldn't diagnose this remotely, and they needed to send me one of the suspect units.
They didn't.
About three months ago, they brought up the issue again; I reiterated that I needed physical access to debug this.
I guess it wasn't a high priority.
A month ago, the same project recruited my help for a software problem, and afterward, asked me yet again to look at the cause of the card failures.
This time they left a pair of cards at my desk.
It took me about two days to find the problem, and create a workaround (which the end-customer will supposedly be happy about, since these cards are about eight years old, well out of warranty, and expensive to replace. )
I informed them of the fix, and told them they could take the cards back.
They haven't, yet.
I wonder if it will take another year for them to pick them up.
This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.
Do you get paid on time, though?
People are starting to wear dust masks to work.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.
Do you get paid on time, though?
Payroll is outsourced to a competent third-party.
This is fortunate, since our in-house IT doesn't appear to be able to even handle asset management; most of my computers have two or three distinct asset tags (added at various different times), yet they still can't keep track of what monitors I've been issued.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 06, 2020, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.
Do you get paid on time, though?
Payroll is outsourced to a competent third-party.
This is fortunate, since our in-house IT doesn't appear to be able to even handle asset management; most of my computers have two or three distinct asset tags (added at various different times), yet they still can't keep track of what monitors I've been issued.
I have capital items in our facility that don't appear anywhere on our books.
The GAO audit starts a week from Monday. :lulz:
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
guns don't kill people, medieval artillery kills people
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
What's so weird about that? I have a crossbow on my desk right now. Not even kidding.
And I am trying to arrange pit bulls to be outside the door of the bastard in the next office.
On the upside, I'm now in the candidate pool for a full social science teaching position for my district. :noodledance:
Hoping you have good Fortune!
I found this insightful
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ncZoNORFDGs
I'm not banned on facebook at the moment, but I can't reply to any of my own threads, because the fucking thing goes tits-up.
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.
I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 11:20:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.
I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
...
QuoteOne of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.
"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 06, 2020, 10:24:49 PM
Hoping you have good Fortune!
Thank you! I'm pretty sure the principal who wrote one of my letters of support will hire me if she can bc she's straight up said, "I want you to work for me." I'm on pretty good terms with several other middle school principals and that's most likely where I'll start.
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 11:20:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.
I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.
yikes -- you gotta be CAREFUL
my buddy teaches high-school special ed.. specificially teaches kids who were removed from public school for behavioral issues. He's always got bruises and bite marks. At his last job, the "straw that broke the camel's back" was having a rib broken by a student that threw him against a wall. And the principal wouldn't back up the teachers. So my friend ragequit that job, but not because of the kids -- because of the administration not taking his reccomendations seriously, even after he was hospitalized.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 07, 2020, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 11:20:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.
I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.
yikes -- you gotta be CAREFUL
my buddy teaches high-school special ed.. specificially teaches kids who were removed from public school for behavioral issues. He's always got bruises and bite marks. At his last job, the "straw that broke the camel's back" was having a rib broken by a student that threw him against a wall. And the principal wouldn't back up the teachers. So my friend ragequit that job, but not because of the kids -- because of the administration not taking his reccomendations seriously, even after he was hospitalized.
Holy fuck. There are some admin who shouldn't be left in charge of a houseplant but you'd think a kid putting one of the teachers in the hospital would be a wake up call.
I was corrected and it was a mild group, but one of them tried to get bitey with the other sub bc he's had negative behavior reenforcement. We do not get paid enough for that shit.
Quote from: The Johnny on February 07, 2020, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
...
QuoteOne of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.
"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 07, 2020, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 07, 2020, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
...
QuoteOne of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.
"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.
Life is tough on dogs.
In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.
Think about that for a second.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 07, 2020, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 07, 2020, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 07, 2020, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
...
QuoteOne of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.
"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.
Life is tough on dogs.
In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.
Think about that for a second.
Mine still have balls, since they don't have access to fe-
Oh. Yeah, you're right.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on February 07, 2020, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 07, 2020, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 07, 2020, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 07, 2020, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Um.
Wow.
This is so American it makes my teeth itch.
https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
I have to just rephrase this because it's so fucking absurd.
A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes "that's a dog attack alright", then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.
:aaa:
...
QuoteOne of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.
"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.
Life is tough on dogs.
In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.
Think about that for a second.
Mine still have balls, since they don't have access to fe-
Oh. Yeah, you're right.
:horrormirth:
So, for a long time I've known about the links between gluten intolerance and autism, but my digestive issues were unresponsive to gluten reduction, so I figured it wasn't relevant to me.
Yesterday, I learned about something FRESH and EXCITING called GLUTEN ATAXIA.
The symptoms list includes things like cluster headaches, muscle spasms, neuropathies, seizures, visual disturbances, and it's worth noting the doctors I've seen figured I was making shit up here because I have a very weird symptom list for fitting any other bill. Gluten ataxia practically defines my problems.
After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, I'm going to try the longest gluten-free diet I've done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.
Quote from: altered on February 09, 2020, 02:56:31 PM
So, for a long time I've known about the links between gluten intolerance and autism, but my digestive issues were unresponsive to gluten reduction, so I figured it wasn't relevant to me.
Yesterday, I learned about something FRESH and EXCITING called GLUTEN ATAXIA.
The symptoms list includes things like cluster headaches, muscle spasms, neuropathies, seizures, visual disturbances, and it's worth noting the doctors I've seen figured I was making shit up here because I have a very weird symptom list for fitting any other bill. Gluten ataxia practically defines my problems.
After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, I'm going to try the longest gluten-free diet I've done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.
I found ton of references to this on pubmed.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Hadjivassiliou%20M%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=18787912
Quote from: altered on February 09, 2020, 02:56:31 PM
After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, I'm going to try the longest gluten-free diet I've done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.
Interesting. I hope this works out for you, and suggest that you keep a journal (you know, so that you can monitor any change in frequency of headaches and such).
I know now that it's old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.
My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I don't know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.
The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. They're consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no I'm not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.
Quote from: altered on February 09, 2020, 11:33:12 PM
I know now that it's old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.
My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I don't know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.
The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. They're consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no I'm not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.
Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)
Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.
Quote from: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: altered on February 09, 2020, 11:33:12 PM
I know now that it's old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.
My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I don't know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.
The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. They're consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no I'm not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.
Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.
Every bit of this is a bad idea on every possible level. Even though the worst parts of this idea may not be immediately visible, there is more than enough bad in knowing that I am in Chicago, that the cluster headaches happen maximum three or four times a year, and that I have seizures. Oh, and that the symptom of cluster headaches is associated with an extremely probable (for me) gluten problem that I'm on my way to treating.
On top of that, I'm broke as fuck, the cops love to harass a stressed queer ANYWHERE, I have a dissociative disorder, and I need to be functional on the day to day badly enough that I cannot even begin to trust natural products with unpredictable dosages to try to microdose.
No. But I appreciate it, I guess?
Quote from: altered on February 10, 2020, 04:51:17 AM
Quote from: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: altered on February 09, 2020, 11:33:12 PM
I know now that it's old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.
My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I don't know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.
The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. They're consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no I'm not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.
Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.
Every bit of this is a bad idea on every possible level. Even though the worst parts of this idea may not be immediately visible, there is more than enough bad in knowing that I am in Chicago, that the cluster headaches happen maximum three or four times a year, and that I have seizures. Oh, and that the symptom of cluster headaches is associated with an extremely probable (for me) gluten problem that I'm on my way to treating.
On top of that, I'm broke as fuck, the cops love to harass a stressed queer ANYWHERE, I have a dissociative disorder, and I need to be functional on the day to day badly enough that I cannot even begin to trust natural products with unpredictable dosages to try to microdose.
No. But I appreciate it, I guess?
Fair enough. It was a subject I followed 10-15 years ago. Last I heard Johns Hopkins was looking into it. No Idea how that turned out. I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.
I mean, I didn't want to be like "fuck you and fuck your face", hence the very last sentence. And to be clear, it's not like you were wrong: severe sufferers see a lot of improvement because it stops symptoms fairly fast and prevents the cluster from continuing for a fair while, usually long enough for it to go dormant.
Psilo is just a really, really bad idea for me, from many different financial, legal and mental health standpoints. And the cause, even if it did help, is very likely to be a symptom of something else that is easier to deal with in every way but financially (which is about equivalent). And the rarity of the clusters make it pretty much worthless to try for me, I'd probably never have any handy when I needed it.
So like, no. But I appreciate the thought.
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 01:04:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)
Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.
What??
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 10, 2020, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 01:04:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)
Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.
What??
D&D session. This was describing how to blow the crystal trap off the pedastal. Unfortunately, given the phrasing....
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 10, 2020, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 01:04:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)
Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.
What??
D&D session. This was describing how to blow the crystal trap off the pedastal. Unfortunately, given the phrasing....
**Attempts to do sexy dance for crystal trap (rolls d20)**
There was also this earlier, from the same person.
(https://i.imgur.com/Jb7kz5e.png)
The sad thing is she's responding perfectly appropriately to what is actually going on, it's just everyone else has filthy minds.
Quote from: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 07:00:56 AM
I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.
Which bodes well, I guess.
*touches crystal, is tossed into ally behind dungeon by burly eastern European bouncer* NO TOUCH
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
the game has a very improvisational quality, and sometimes this doesn't jive well with the 'tactical board game' background people bring in from D&D. One of the big challenges for D&D players is recognizing the borders of what you can improvise, and the game's handling of "the fiction" (ie the things people describe, the shared visualization of the scene) as more important than the mechanics.
So, for example, we were doing this scene where the party is being attacked by giant birds. One of the characters is an immolator, basically a fire mage. A bird swoops down, and while it can't carry him off, it does manage to drag him 20 feet away from his friends. Next, the fire mage gets kicked to the ground, and the bird steps on him.
At this point, I've given the other party members a few opportunities to react to this, but they don't want to sacrifice the position they've gained on the other giant bird, so they leave the fire mage alone.
I tell the Immolator, "you're on the ground and the bird's head is about eight feet up in the air above you. The giant foot is on your chest/waist, and the bird is about to start pecking you -- what do you do?"
Other people have been in that situation, and they tend to say "I roll to the side" (at which point I let them roll a Defy Danger check using dexterity), or "I push the bird off me" (Defy Danger using strength). The fire mage says "I take it! I headbutt the bird's beak as it pecks me"
This doesn't seem like it makes sense to me -- it's like trying to block a spear using your chest. You're basically just describing how you get hit. Meanwhile, the fire mage has an ability where, when they get damage, they can immediately summon a flaming weapon -- and he's used that a few times before, so I figured he was trying to pull a fire knife or something so he could slice his way free of the bird. So I confirm, "If you just headbutt the bird that's pecking you, you're not avoiding danger, you're going to take damage." there's some kind of missed connection here, he's not getting that I'm telling him that this move isn't going to work. So he says he does it anyway, and I roll damage, and he gets really upset. But a real sharp kind of upset, where he's suddenly mad at me personally and begins throwing shade on the game and dropping fuck this's at me and the other players.
We kinda circle around this for a while, and the missed connection is that he thought he could roll Defy Danger using constitution (his 'good stat') to "endure" the attack. I clarify that rolling a Con check is more about things like - how long can you hold your breath? Can you still fight while poisoned? Can you force your way through the sandstorm? Can you finish casting your spell while distracted by pain? It's not meant to be "every time you get hit you can just roll a con check and not take any damage". The player then says that HE WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS and that I'm shutting down his role play and railroading him. And that I've removed all agency from his roleplay by putting him in a situation he can't escape from.
Another player tells him "all you had to do was say 'I try to dodge'." The fire mage says that his character would never do that.
Huh, wait, he's saying his character would never attempt to dodge anything...? "Yeah," he says, "I have a -1 to dex rolls, so it's impossible, I wouldn't even try."
"Dude," says another player, "you just have to roll a 7 using 2d6-1. It's not impossible." This logic doesn't work, and the fire mage says that the reason we play roleplaying games is to do the things our characters specialize in, and by denying his con check, I'm railroading him into failure. I'm kinda baffled by this point and say that not every tool works in every situation - you can't solve every problem with a Con check. And that part of my job as GM is to put you in tough situations where you have to do things you're not necessarily good at.
There's a lot more blah blah blah but ultimately I let him just roll a fuckin con check so we could get through the scene. He kinda alienated the other people at the table, too.
so we're playing again tonight -- I am hoping that a week later, he's got a better attitude about the game
My character is a dumbass who likes getting hurt.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...
Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?
Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.
FeelsWeird man.
Yeah, if the DM has an adventurer character in the party, and that character does stuff other than give cryptic advice and mislead you, that's a big warning sign.
Quote from: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...
Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?
Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.
FeelsWeird man.
DM's Old Character is a trope that describes how about 20% of all DMs fail at the expense of the players.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Yeah, if the DM has an adventurer character in the party, and that character does stuff other than give cryptic advice and mislead you, that's a big warning sign.
Some of my advice isn't misleading.
From my admittedly limited experience with D&D, it sounds like no one really wanted to be DM for DM's sake, they all wanted to be PCs.
So you end up with a reluctant DM who still wants to be part of the adventure party.
From what I can tell, they're two very distinct roles, and DM isn't something you can half ass.
We kinda have a rotating DM role, that's open to those who want to do it.
However, it's based on the understanding that the DM will focus on DMing and so stand back from the combat or whatever. For example, our last adventure had us bravely navigating a ruin (so we could murder a man, for the price on his head). As In Character I'm the group leader anyway, I set the background for the contract, the location we are going to and so on.
Then I spent about 2 hours coming up with traps that could be disarmed by the people present, if they applied their skills correctly, and backup methods of disabling them if they fucked it up. Precisely one trap could be disarmed by myself (and that was only as a backup, due to similar skill overlap), the rest all gave someone else in the group, even the muscle, something to do in order to progress the story along. So the mages, rogues, elves etc all had a part to play. I basically stood to the side and helped with some occasional heavy lifting of stonework.
I then murdered the target in the cold blood, since I'd done nothing up until that point, but it was pretty clear the target was not a skilled combatant of any kind, up against a hardened mercenary, so I feel like this wasn't too gratuitous. Then we robbed his corpse and everyone got paid.
With a rotating-DM, that makes sense - it's only cheap if the DM's PC grabs the spotlight.
To explain why a character is there but isn't doing anything useful, my group uses this handwave we call "Dancing ineffectively in the background" -- like in the old Adam West Batman, a few people would be fighting, and a bunch of goons would be standing in the background snapping their fingers to the soundtrack but not doing anything helpful. If your character should be with the party, but you're not physically there, or it would be cheap for you to participate (ie, you're the DM), that's most of what you're doing.
Kinda similar:
In Larps, we call it "monsterbaiting" -- when the NPC solves the problem for the PCs, or when a scene is just two NPCs talking to each other.
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose. Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.
I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes. Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 10, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose. Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.
I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes. Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.
ANY of that could have worked! Throwing something over its eyes is a great idea
If he had said something like "I shield my face using my arms" I might have been persuaded that this was a Constitution check.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 10, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose. Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.
I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes. Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.
ANY of that could have worked! Throwing something over its eyes is a great idea
If he had said something like "I shield my face using my arms" I might have been persuaded that this was a Constitution check.
Someone has to be the spooky pile of bones in the dungeon. It's usually people that try to headbutt an ax beak or bullrush a gelatinous cube or something.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 07:00:56 AM
I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.
Which bodes well, I guess.
I guess, except for the one who got the attention of Johns Hopkins in the first place, "pinksharkmark". He passed away a few years ago.
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.
Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.
Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?
If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.
I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2020, 01:00:47 AM
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.
Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.
Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?
If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.
I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.
If I can ever remember my password for Scrubgenius, I'll put it up.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 03:08:56 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2020, 01:00:47 AM
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.
Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.
Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?
If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.
I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.
If I can ever remember my password for Scrubgenius, I'll put it up.
Thanks man.
Quote from: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...
Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?
Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.
FeelsWeird man.
It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts. I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to. No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.
Quote from: Pergamos on February 11, 2020, 06:10:42 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...
Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?
Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.
FeelsWeird man.
It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts. I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to. No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.
I guess building a Berserker woulda been fun, if only I had known how things were gonna be, cause i built a Rogue.
Quote from: The Johnny on February 11, 2020, 06:16:09 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 11, 2020, 06:10:42 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...
I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...
Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?
Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.
FeelsWeird man.
It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts. I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to. No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.
I guess building a Berserker woulda been fun, if only I had known how things were gonna be, cause i built a Rogue.
I tend to like playing rogues as suicide bombers. If I know I can detonate more than once at least.
Joe Biden Jokes With Voter: 'You're A Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier' | NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs)
It's funny how all your presidential candidates have varying degrees of dementia and degeneracy.
It's like the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s, when all the contenders for leadership were either insane or napped 18 hours a day because they were 90 and on life support.
Quote from: Cain on February 11, 2020, 12:16:09 PM
It's like the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s, when all the contenders for leadership were either insane or napped 18 hours a day because they were 90 and on life support.
These are the people who are supposed to defeat Trump. :|
The polls suggest literally any of them could.
However, the polls do not take into account the 18+ month hacking, foreign assistance-empowered smear campaign that is about to come down on whoever the candidate is.
Quote from: The Johnny on February 11, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
Joe Biden Jokes With Voter: 'You're A Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier' | NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs)
It's funny how all your presidential candidates have varying degrees of dementia and degeneracy.
Well, that's not a coincidence. Our entire country has always been demented, and it hasn't gotten better, just different.
Only now it's not even different.
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. I'm in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.
Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of "oh, everything I thought was wrong with me isn't, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire life". I've got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Given that date, will you want fresh material? :lulz:
Quote from: altered on February 11, 2020, 07:49:34 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. I'm in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.
Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of "oh, everything I thought was wrong with me isn't, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire life". I've got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!
Magic as the art of being open to weird shit happening around you is something I'd like to get more of in this edition and have absolutely nothing for right now. I can cite some examples of the phenomenon but I just don't have a coherent narrative.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: altered on February 11, 2020, 07:49:34 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. I'm in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.
Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of "oh, everything I thought was wrong with me isn't, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire life". I've got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!
Magic as the art of being open to weird shit happening around you is something I'd like to get more of in this edition and have absolutely nothing for right now. I can cite some examples of the phenomenon but I just don't have a coherent narrative.
I think I might have something stashed away.
I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.
I actually have a couple quick anecdotes for this. I think the best one is the More Water Than You Really Wanted Incident. Give me some time to frame them, I can get something put together.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:54:44 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Given that date, will you want fresh material? :lulz:
I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.
That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:54:44 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Given that date, will you want fresh material? :lulz:
I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.
That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.
No so different. Let me dig up my notes on the box at home and zap you a rough draft.
ETA: You take care of you. This can wait until you're ready. I'm just going to write it sooner rather than later, is all.
Here's a question you've never asked:
How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space
And the answer is:
VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:59:27 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:54:44 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.
starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Given that date, will you want fresh material? :lulz:
I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.
That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.
No so different. Let me dig up my notes on the box at home and zap you a rough draft.
ETA: You take care of you. This can wait until you're ready. I'm just going to write it sooner rather than later, is all.
Yeah, my story is definitely "Magic is sometimes bad for you". It's kind of like Carrie, but with coffee instead of blood and fire.
First draft written now, I'm going to get angry at it for a couple days then totally rewrite it. It's pretty boring prose right now except for the use of a different synonym for "device" EVERY SINGLE TIME, which I'm proud of.
Q. G.
O
Q. G.
I am so
Very
Very
Glad
To see
That you be
Ready
And
Not Dead Yet!
When I get time I will put my noodle to this "magic" business folks get so aon about.
Here's how I feel.
:zombie:
I am On Fire.
And I feel like I will burn Eternally,
Yet nobody can see
I'm contained.
A reaction
My being in
Unstoppable conflagration
Internally.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
Here's a question you've never asked:
How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space
And the answer is:
VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit
"Bondage in Space": Not what we wanted, but what we deserve.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
Here's a question you've never asked:
How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space
And the answer is:
VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit
Oh neat
I mean, we can start Fight Club but I forgot the rules...
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
Here's a question you've never asked:
How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space
And the answer is:
VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit
Doesn't have to be used in microgravity, just saying.
I'm much more intrigued by the possibility of masturbating in space and floating the sperm bubble out of the airlock. That gotta be a form of immortality.
Quote from: Frontside Back on February 12, 2020, 04:49:50 PM
I'm much more intrigued by the possibility of masturbating in space and floating the sperm bubble out of the airlock. That gotta be a form of immortality.
:|
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)
no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Quote from: Cramulus on February 12, 2020, 05:14:37 PM
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)
no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Every time I remember David Bowman's transformation, I am further enraged by his failure to anything COOL that his new capabilities gave him.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 12, 2020, 05:14:37 PM
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)
no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Not necessarily. To my knowledge you need also someone letting their period bubble out of airlock and an Infinite Improbability Drive.
Quote from: Frontside Back on February 12, 2020, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 12, 2020, 05:14:37 PM
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)
no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Not necessarily. To my knowledge you need also someone letting their period bubble out of airlock and an Infinite Improbability Drive.
I must have had the censured version, in mine it was a bowl of petunias and a whale
Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean". :lulz:
PT Barnum was an optimist.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 06:28:44 PM
Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean". :lulz:
PT Barnum was an optimist.
Man, the best way to know if a fish is really fresh is if its parasites are still alive.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 06:28:44 PM
Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean". :lulz:
PT Barnum was an optimist.
Man, the best way to know if a fish is really fresh is if its parasites are still alive.
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My favourite "fresh, wild and clean" fish are the ones where the plastic bag I'll use to transport it, is already included inside of its stomach.
I've eaten wild caught fish from the Allegheny as a kid.
Let me just say, crappie is a misnomer. Fucking delicious.
Let me also say that I am absolutely certain some of my later developmental damage had something to do with that fish, delicious as it was.
I mean. Come on. The fucking Allegheny.
The only way it could have been worse is fishing in the Connequenessing. Then again, fishing there you probably would need to use a spare tire as a sinker and steel cable to prevent the line from dissolving on contact.
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2020, 09:14:51 AM
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.
POINT COMPLETELY MISSED. :mind ray:
Eighth and ninth grade are the rates we survive through the foreberence of others, is2g.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2020, 09:14:51 AM
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.
POINT COMPLETELY MISSED. :mind ray:
The sharp ones know better.
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2020, 11:33:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2020, 09:14:51 AM
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.
POINT COMPLETELY MISSED. :mind ray:
The sharp ones know better.
Eat shit.
Official statement by Australia's government regarding the bushfires:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g)
In Berlin for a couple of days, forgot how much I like this city
Quote from: The Johnny on February 14, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
Official statement by Australia's government regarding the bushfires:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g)
That was amazing. :lulz:
Anything that references that fucking tourism ad gets my seal of approval. That was just taking the piss.
I hate it when I fail to translate knowledge to practice.
So, I'm getting an oil change, and the guy asks if I want my lights checked. Blink the high beams, signal left, tap the brakes, etc. Then he tells me my license-plate light is out.
This strikes me as a little odd, since my headlights weren't on. But I explain this to myself as "I-guess-the-license-plate-light-must-supposed-to-be-always-on-and-he-sees-a-lot-more-cars-than-I-do-so-I-he-must-know-what-he-is-talking-about."
The cost is $17 installed, so I tell him not to bother.
Yesterday, I'm going out for errands, so I figure I'll drop by Canadian Tire and get a new bulb. I'll remove the old one first, so I have something to match against. It's -20 C, and I spend five minutes freezing my hands while trying to remove the fixture, before I check youtube and discover I can pop out the lens in about five seconds with a screwdriver. Duh.
Then, because OCD, I check the bulb filament. But I can't find the break. I turn it over, shake it to make the coil wiggle, but nope. There's no darkening of the glass, and I can't find the break.
So I plug the bulb back in, turn on the car lights, go back around to check, and there's nothing wrong with the bloody thing.
How I fucked up:
1.) When I noticed an oddity, I rationalized it away, instead of flagging it. The 'lesswrong' site's mantra for this is "I notice I am confused."
2.) When someone reported a problem, I believed them, instead of spending five seconds checking it myself. Even if I believed the light was off when he looked at it, I shouldn't have accepted the conclusion that this meant the bulb had burnt out. I should absolutely have checked the bulb before spending time removing it.
Detecting these sort of trivial mental errors is a significant part of what allows to function at my job, so why did I botch this in real life?
And what else am I screwing up, right now?
So, DM plotting question incoming.
The basic premise of the "main story" that I'm running is that our mercenary company managed to stumble into a covert military operation gone off the rails. Think 1960s CIA, but with less drugs and more necromancy, and you're roughly in the right area. To find out just how deep the shit they are in is, they're going to the capital to meet with a spy. The idea here is pretty simple, the spy himself isn't high-ranking enough to be read into these kind of operations, but his boss is. If the PCs help him by doing stuff to make his boss look good, they get access to some files and some names they can follow up on for the next leg of the adventure.
My initial thinking was to have the PCs hunt down an assassin in the city. This seems like the kind of thing a spy would be involved with, it's politically neutral (important, given the composition and employment history of most of our group) and it could be fun: I can make up a few different leads and see how the group goes from there.
However, they are a mercenary company. And this is the capital. While this isn't a huge amount of distance for them to travel (about a day by boat), there are considerations there about picking up contacts and contracts. So I'm thinking I should maybe do something more extensive while they're there, so they can capitalise on being in the city for maybe a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days and have a proper deployment to this crucial area. Obviously I could complicate the above story, or just throw more contracts at them, but I've had them doing a lot of investigative and exploration stuff recently, so I'm thinking that I want to do something more fighty. The problem is what however. I was wondering if perhaps they might need to rescue an informant to discover the assassination plot in the first place (said informant being held by bandits or something outside the city), but I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else also had some good ideas.
Quote from: Cain on February 17, 2020, 10:53:46 AM
So, DM plotting question incoming.
Something, something, Russians. Something something competing or confrontational agencies that despite that are your allies so you cant just snuff them out.
And using the sewers and metro tracks as useful settings away from the public eye.
Maybe you could open with an ambush and set to surprise combat as a series of harrying actions intended to lure them through the city and cut hard and fast deals for territorial passage or temporary harbor with various powers in the city.
Why this is happening is up to you of course, but if you're going to commit to combat don't be a tease. Instill in the players a deadly mystery and existential dread.
People like existential dread, apparently.
Quote from: Cain on February 17, 2020, 10:53:46 AM
So, DM plotting question incoming.
The basic premise of the "main story" that I'm running is that our mercenary company managed to stumble into a covert military operation gone off the rails. Think 1960s CIA, but with less drugs and more necromancy, and you're roughly in the right area. To find out just how deep the shit they are in is, they're going to the capital to meet with a spy. The idea here is pretty simple, the spy himself isn't high-ranking enough to be read into these kind of operations, but his boss is. If the PCs help him by doing stuff to make his boss look good, they get access to some files and some names they can follow up on for the next leg of the adventure.
My initial thinking was to have the PCs hunt down an assassin in the city. This seems like the kind of thing a spy would be involved with, it's politically neutral (important, given the composition and employment history of most of our group) and it could be fun: I can make up a few different leads and see how the group goes from there.
However, they are a mercenary company. And this is the capital. While this isn't a huge amount of distance for them to travel (about a day by boat), there are considerations there about picking up contacts and contracts. So I'm thinking I should maybe do something more extensive while they're there, so they can capitalise on being in the city for maybe a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days and have a proper deployment to this crucial area. Obviously I could complicate the above story, or just throw more contracts at them, but I've had them doing a lot of investigative and exploration stuff recently, so I'm thinking that I want to do something more fighty. The problem is what however. I was wondering if perhaps they might need to rescue an informant to discover the assassination plot in the first place (said informant being held by bandits or something outside the city), but I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else also had some good ideas.
Idea from a stranger that may or may not fit into your setting at all -
Some local unrest has reached boiling point and now people in an area of the city have taken up arms and built barricades, hoping to force the authorities to make some changes. The authorities are preparing to storm the barricades, of course, but they're worried that an influential ringleader or figurehead will escape in the action. Capturing the target alive would be a political coup and win some/all of the influence they need with the spy's boss.
The barricades would establish a clear "action area", could have a messy brawl through whatever type of buildings you've picked out. House to house, docks, industrial buildings. The rebels would be mostly weakly armed but more would be drawn to any fighting, so the group would have to move quickly. Then either take the target by surprise (extract them or hold out until the authorities retake the area?), or chase scene with whatever appropriate getaway method the target has planned. Action filled sidequest, basically. Add parkour opportunities, crazy improvised weapons, human shields and moral dilemmas to taste.
If you want more spy stuff after that, they could handle some interrogations to identify ringleaders from a group of captured rebels, or run a witch hunt to find sympathisers.
The assassin is currently posing as a minor functionary in a heavily defended compound associated with $foreign_country, waiting for the heat to subside before making his next move.
The spy has discovered the identity of the assassin, but can't get at him; he needs a major distraction in order to flush him out. He wants the mercenary company to do this. The mercenary company does not have enough firepower to take out the whole compound, but they need to convince the assassin that a major attack is in progress, and that he's no longer safe there.
Of course, your company will have made a powerful enemy in the process...
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How about a mission where they have to extract the double agent, but make it seem (to the group he's embedded in) that he was killed in action.
So the PCs have to fight a group of enemies, but for the scenario to be a victory, two conditions need to occur:
1. They have to identify which one of the enemies is the double agent (he's wearing some signal you might need to use a Perception or Insight check to pick out in combat), and then knock him out using nonlethal damage
2. Someone needs to tell the Boss that the Double Agent is dead. Which means the PCs have to allow at least one of the enemies to escape.
if you want to add an extra dramatic complication:
The guy running away from the fight, the one who they need to let get away -- he is also being chased by a city guard or vigilante or something... if the PCs don't intervene, someone else will capture / kill the guy. So the PCs need to take out the pursuer without being noticed, as well.
"You can tell the two of them are headed towards the marketplace, and you know a shortcut to get there..."
Interesting ideas! Thanks everyone.
Not sure what I'll do yet, but you've definitely given me some things to work with.
This is another reason people are stupid.
https://apnews.com/a2d312755662ca7c7b5f0bb49dfe8633
I specifically got a Chinese takeaway last Friday, just to do a bit to support a good company.
Same. There's a really popular dumpling house here, with lines for a seat out the door. I was able to stroll in and gorge myself last weekend.
Guilt by association is not the future.
It is, however, the British way. Already getting Chinese people beaten up and harassed in the streets over this.
Quote from: Cain on February 18, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
It is, however, the British way. Already getting Chinese people beaten up and harassed in the streets over this.
Well, yeah. I was there often enough to get a look at the ugly side. Which usually involved the phrase "it stands to reason" when it patently
doesn't stand to reason.
Some people will take any excuse at all to be fucking horrible.
On a lighter note, I'm really proud of one of my students.
I've known him for about three years now and he's always been one of my favorites. I've really worried about him and the choices he was making for about a year. But! Little dude moved schools and says he's happier and doing much better here. He's actually doing his work and he's calmed down a lot, which is great bc he was very wild in middle school unless you knew how to handle him. Moments like this make it all worth it.
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:
In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!
* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 22, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:
Corona virus is a bioweapon, either used against them or it escaped their own labs :tinfoilhat:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 22, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:
In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!
* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)
That is awesome! I am myself intent on forming a nonprofit, which I assert may be a better engine for retaining value while still getting... Compensated. As a board member you generally don't catch a salary or wage as such, but can definitely write the bylaws in such a way that you are able to pay your living expenses and otherwise play around with various financial instruments and assets such that you always have cash ready to spend on anything in the company interest, which if your mission statement is broad enough can be almost anything. Nonprofits can conduct business such as entering contract, like, say, an artistic commission, and ALSO solicit donation among other things. And if you do and maintain the paperwork and accounting correctly
It. Is. All. Tax. Free.
My five favorite little words.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2020, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 22, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:
In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!
* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)
That is awesome! I am myself intent on forming a nonprofit, which I assert may be a better engine for retaining value while still getting... Compensated. As a board member you generally don't catch a salary or wage as such, but can definitely write the bylaws in such a way that you are able to pay your living expenses and otherwise play around with various financial instruments and assets such that you always have cash ready to spend on anything in the company interest, which if your mission statement is broad enough can be almost anything. Nonprofits can conduct business such as entering contract, like, say, an artistic commission, and ALSO solicit donation among other things. And if you do and maintain the paperwork and accounting correctly
It. Is. All. Tax. Free.
My five favorite little words.
It's worth mentioning that the IRS *loves* auditing nonprofits, as they view all of them as money laundering outfits. All of them. They know some haven't gotten around to being guilty yet, but will soon.
And indeed the Treasury takes a special interest in nonprofits as a possible vector for terrorist financing.
Yeah. I am aware of both points guys. I very much thank you both for pointing them out anyway. One of my best friends is engaged to a forensic accountant who is also a very GOOD person. They will be my game master for the books if they takes me up on my offer. I want to be SO CLEAN that my books glow with a radiant light of holiness, but I will fight them for every single little disclosure like I was hiding the global sum of all "dark money" citing the privacy of my donors and other business partners. They will also help me to exploit every LEGAL loophole that I can fully and check me when I get some crazy scheme in my head, of which I already have several. This accountant will eventually lead a team of forensic accountants for... Assessment of possible acquisitions.
Lawyers will be my equivalent of Rome's Praetorian Guard. They will protect the company, its personnel, and assets as well as function as the Company enforcers. I will use certain lists that have recently come to my attention thanks to my favorite shadow person. They must be deeply ethical people who will fight to the very last appeal.
I intend to openly reach out to various other nonprofits, say BACA and The Hell's Angels or various NGO corps into prevention and exfiltration of people being trafficked as chattel, and offer them some VERY interesting assets in exchange for informal alliance and info sharing. If I need something legally nebulous done they may be able where I cannot take such a risk. I ultimately seek UN recognized NGO status as well for legal and financial reasons.
I will also inevitably require physical security personnel and assets. I know ninjas. That's not a joke. I probably shouldn't say more than that.
Infosec will likewise not be a problem.
I may even, for the lulz, have a branch for "spiritual security" once the company has fuck-you money. This will not be a waste because employing such people will get me close to THEIR centers of power.
I have, long ago, SWORN to do great things to help Haiti, and I know just the right people to approach and if necessary... Kinetically Influence to ensure that all investments there help the people, children especially. I swore it to The Kids. If you don't understand why I capitalized that then I think you could afford some study of Afro-Carribian religious practices.
yoooooo, that's so cool that you're sculpts are gonna be on TV!
I remember when you were just starting out... -- all it takes is a shitload of effort over time? you make it look easy
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.
I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Also congrats to P3nt! Let us know when the documentary is out.
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2020, 07:51:21 AM
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.
I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Yeah, and they have become less frequent too, when we take out the new domains they seem slow to set up new ones
Quote from: Faust on February 24, 2020, 08:56:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2020, 07:51:21 AM
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.
I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Yeah, and they have become less frequent too, when we take out the new domains they seem slow to set up new ones
We are very small potatoes. They will not try to alter their routines so long as they are getting results in other places.
Found this while going through my writings. Thought maybe Q. G. Might perhaps find it print worthy.
Everyone says that they want to be "A God" or even "The God", but nobody really wants to bear all of consciousness eternally.
Nut up or shut up, so to speak. Nothing is in fact the only thing vast enough to bear the burden of God in splitting Its consciousness, and so God dwells in nothing, and so you get to have a temporary sense of somethingness. Do not vainly seek reunion, which will happen no matter what you do in time, but enjoy the gift you have been given at the greatest of costs, for while it is an expression of nothing, from nothingness, it is the only thing you can be said truly have in any meaningful sense, which may not be much, but it's something.
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: it's bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.
Given the latest is sliding to an end, let me tell you about a job I might have landed: data security company needs remote working internal helldesk specialist.
Why am I so confident without even an interview yet?
I might be getting this from a friend's mother. Who asked specifically for my resume. Who is extremely interested in my background. Who heard about one of my best friends and stopped speaking English for a few seconds. (Hi QGP's husband!!)
So I might be shooting out of Chicago to NYC for a couple weeks soon here for training. Paid for: food, transit, hotel room. Including transit back to Chicago.
I do my best work remotely and my laptop works again. I have a strictly hobbyist background in data security (it's a fun puzzle: how to irritate and frustrate attackers without imposing burdens on users) and I do a lot of unpaid IT work for friends who need computers rebuilt and debugged and stuff. I have helped people configure their routers remotely, without any page to go on but the Google image search results for "site:setuprouter.org <router model>". (Oh, right: I DID THAT FOR FUN. I was told afterwards NOT to do it because it wasn't our problem. I did it again anyway because it wasn't against policy and I enjoyed myself.) I am patient with the tech illiterate to an extreme degree, and pleasant to a fault with people I talk to.
I got this.
Fuckin' awesome altered! Hope things work out marvelously!
You know I live just an hour or so north of Chicago. Perhaps some time when youget back we could meet up! You would be the first Discordian that I know of that I meet in the IRL.
Over time I hope to meet quite a few.
Yay, Altered! That's good news! Break a leg.
Great news!
Yeah, good luck! And if you end up in NYC for training, shoot me a line--it would be rad to meet in person!
Quote from: altered on February 26, 2020, 01:39:57 AM
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: it's bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.
It's not annoying, if that's one of your concerns.
It is annoying, just not to some people. For others it isn't just annoying: it's frustrating, infuriating or depressing. It brings people stress by way of empathy, which is just rude to do. People who ended up helping me later have had to leave servers I was on or block me temporarily because of the intersection of "this is constantly horrible" and "there is nothing I can do".
If I don't need the help or the vent, there's no value in doing it. Sticking by that here helps me keep up with it elsewhere.
If you do feel the need to vent, you can PM me without caution.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 26, 2020, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: altered on February 26, 2020, 01:39:57 AM
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: it's bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.
It's not annoying, if that's one of your concerns.
Seconded
Got a linkedin "Take time to acknowledge your coworker Clive on working together for four years" notification. Clive died two years ago. Here's a drink to you Clive.
But it does creep me out the digital ghosts haunting the place. It reminded me of Aaron the Moore's monologue from Titus Andronicus
Quote
Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves,
And set them upright at their dear friends' doors,
Even when their sorrows almost were forgot;
And on their skins, as on the bark of trees,
Have with my knife carved in Roman letters,
'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'
But really that would be more of a facebook thing to do maliciously, linkedin are not that organized or competent
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2020, 07:11:39 PM
Got a linkedin "Take time to acknowledge your coworker Clive on working together for four years" notification. Clive died two years ago. Here's a drink to you Clive.
But it does creep me out the digital ghosts haunting the place. It reminded me of Aaron the Moore's monologue from Titus Andronicus
Quote
Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves,
And set them upright at their dear friends' doors,
Even when their sorrows almost were forgot;
And on their skins, as on the bark of trees,
Have with my knife carved in Roman letters,
'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'
But really that would be more of a facebook thing to do maliciously, linkedin are not that organized or competent
You can actually use social media to track the point at which someone died. It's fucking creepy.
I just found out that my brother's dog, but he has recently been like mine too, is dying of..
Wait for it...
:rimshot: FUCKING CANCER!
This dog, his name is Chopper, saved my brother, his then fiancee, and my dad from a fire at the family home I grew up in. He set to barking like mad and my brother woke, pulled his strap thinking home invasion like he do, and then he discovered that the entire integrated garage was consumed by flames. Dad had a lot of stuff in there. The kind with open flame warnings and or high pressure.
Long story short everyone got out alive and largely unharmed. My Dad strutted out like a goddamn Daimyo. Unhurried, and undisturbed. He has... a very meaningful level of True Faith. He doesn't rattle.
They could well have asphyxiated or worse if not for this dog. He is a very good boy.
:cry:
Boy the hits just keep on coming.
So, California has its first secondary coronavirus patient, who hasn't been out of the country and who has had no contact with other known patients.
Given a 14 day incubation period, that means that an unknown but large number of people have been exposed.
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
This is just a side gig. She's focussed on preparing for the main show (climate change), which I promise will be much more
kinetic.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 27, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
This is just a side gig. She's focussed on preparing for the main show (climate change), which I promise will be much more kinetic.
Um, that's BEEN going on, and it's NOT kinetic. It is instead a dismally-slow
process that simply reduces everyone's standard of living, as usual from the bottom up.
You may have noticed the wildfires and floods. You may have noticed that we don't fix anything afterwards, anymore.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
Um, that's BEEN going on, and it's NOT kinetic. It is instead a dismally-slow process that simply reduces everyone's standard of living, as usual from the bottom up.
You may have noticed the wildfires and floods. You may have noticed that we don't fix anything afterwards, anymore.
I dunno, I consider floods to be plenty kinetic.
Hurricanes, too.
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.
The first wave, sure.
The second wave had a death rate of 20%. 50 million dumbass primates ejected.
This virus weighs in at a wimpy 3%.
I'm hearing that it's a lot more widespread here than anyone has been willing to acknowledge and has been for a couple weeks at least.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.
It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.
The first wave, sure.
The second wave had a death rate of 20%. 50 million dumbass primates ejected.
This virus weighs in at a wimpy 3%.
I'm counting on us being dumb enough to recreate WWI-like conditions. I mean, this government has already caused a "Soviet-like" drop in life expectancy over here, so you can't really convince me that I'm wrong.
Also stuff like this will help:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER0GDjNX0AEw81Z?format=png&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER0GE9CWAAIIHCD?format=png&name=small)
Holy shit.
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it
Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it
FREE THE OPEN BAR
:pax:
Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it
Who locked it?
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
????
Quote from: Juana on February 28, 2020, 02:15:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
????
Yep. Straight to a violation of community standards for any of the above, including a link to Scientific American.
I seem to have annoyed the alt-right incel cube dwellers in the FB admin boiler room.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
I think I know what the Republican plan is to solve the Social Security conundrum.
It's to let COVID-19 kill off half the population over 65.
It's funny how many problems will sort themselves out if you just don't give a shit.
Bye-bye Meemaw. Bye-bye Peepaw. Hello Brave New World.
Quote from: Faust on February 27, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it
Not to my knowledge. Not unless the bar was quarantined to contain coronavirus, and since I don't see a bunch of gormless people wandering around, putting their fingers over everything and then sticking them in their mouths (which is apparently the protocol, or might as well be), I think we're safe.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
the system is FINALLY working
Quote from: Cramulus on February 28, 2020, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
the system is FINALLY working
The natural thing to do is set up a fresh Hamish Howl page and start paying to promote posts before they realize what you're doing and sue if they try to cheat you or refuse service.
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So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
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I can't post any pics at all.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
I can't post any pics at all.
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Oh it's stuff you're sharing?
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 AM
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
I can't post any pics at all.
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I haven't found one of zuck, but maybe sharing these?
https://www.facebook.com/samepicofdavecoulier/ (https://www.facebook.com/samepicofdavecoulier/)
Katherine Johnson has achieved escape velocity. :cry:
Just gonna stick this here so I can find it tonight to drop on a nationalist he man page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2020, 06:12:55 PM
Just gonna stick this here so I can find it tonight to drop on a nationalist he man page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c&feature=youtu.be
That was amazing and brightened up my day.
Update!
Instead of helldesk, it turns out I'll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.
No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.
And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?
I'm happy for you! that sounds like a good gig!
Quote from: altered on March 03, 2020, 07:13:18 AM
Update!
Instead of helldesk, it turns out I'll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.
No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.
And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?
Yay! 🎉
I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.
That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.
Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.
hi Suu!
yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL
like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.
The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels
Quote from: Suu on March 03, 2020, 08:56:58 PM
I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.
That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.
Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.
Nobody beats my 90 day megaban. :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on March 03, 2020, 09:24:18 PM
hi Suu!
yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL
like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.
The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels
I get to be me without expensive dental work, though.
Quote from: Cramulus on March 03, 2020, 09:24:18 PM
hi Suu!
yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL
like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.
The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels
Yeah, my primary isn't until 3/17, and I'm just not in the mood to deal with the Bernie versus Warren camps on my timeline right now, plus the small clutch of Republicans that I still have around for entertainment purposes only.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2020, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 03, 2020, 08:56:58 PM
I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.
That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.
Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.
Nobody beats my 90 day megaban. :lulz:
If I disappeared for that long, people would assume I was dead. That was impressive as fuck.
Hell, my last ban was allegedly in error, and Facebook was like, "Sorry. Cannot fix. Enjoy your vacation."
It was amazing, I had time to do laundry.
Wasn't that for the electric eel porn?
Quote from: Juana on March 03, 2020, 10:13:14 PM
Wasn't that for the electric eel porn?
I got 30 for the electric eel porn, but then I made the mistake of asking for a review and an actual person looked at it and they tacked another 60 on.
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
Quote from: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 02:12:20 AM
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS
Quote from: Suu on March 04, 2020, 03:32:55 AM
Quote from: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 02:12:20 AM
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS
Not surprising, but definitely frightening for all involved parties.
Quote from: Suu on March 04, 2020, 03:32:55 AM
Quote from: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 02:12:20 AM
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS
Sure, NOW you want into the bunker. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 05:18:40 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 04, 2020, 03:32:55 AM
Quote from: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 02:12:20 AM
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS
Sure, NOW you want into the bunker. :lulz:
It's not that this is a SAFE place, it's that it's at least the type of strife I'm used to.
IT'S DIMO YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOO
:pukka:
I don't know why that emote is the one, but there it do
Hey Dimo!
Sorry about spagging in your FB feed. This ol' Gen X-er was drunk and feeling bitter.
Quote from: altered on March 03, 2020, 07:13:18 AM
Update!
Instead of helldesk, it turns out I'll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.
No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.
And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?
It's all fun and games
When you plant eyes on your brain
But keep those eyes on the
(encryption) keys
Data wants to be free
Bartender, pour me a shot of old man juice
Quote from: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 01:11:29 PM
Bartender, pour me a shot of old man juice
Would you like that to be Biden or Sanders flavored?
make it a white and tan, please
Quote from: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 04:02:27 PM
make it a white and tan, please
So, one Pence & Trump coming right up.
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?
Yeah, it is.
I was thinking it was our shitty WiFi here, but it's doing it on 4G too.
Quote from: altered on March 04, 2020, 05:22:09 PM
Yeah, it is.
I was thinking it was our shitty WiFi here, but it's doing it on 4G too.
Same here and on multiple WiFi networks.
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?
Not for me. It's been a consistent issue since I came back across multiple browsers.
Quote from: LMNO on March 04, 2020, 12:59:16 PM
Hey Dimo!
Sorry about spagging in your FB feed. This ol' Gen X-er was drunk and feeling bitter.
It's cool mah dood. I don't think anyone is having a fun time with all this shit going on these days.
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?
Its been several weeks actually - now I resort to manually opening 2-3 forum tabs and their respective 2-3 threads in different tabs simultaneously so I dont swamp going back and forth in a single tab. Feels like some sort of bandwidth throttling, i dont know.
Oddly enough, it's been fast as hell for me.
No problems, here.
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)
Quote from: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 09:36:58 PM
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)
You utter bastard. :rogpipe:
Quote from: Juana on March 04, 2020, 05:20:07 PM
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?
Here comes the inquisition.
I'm not seeing any slow down, if you want I can take a look, if so:
How are you accessing it, phone or desktop, if phone wifi or 3g?
Are you using https or plain http? What forum theme are you using?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 09:36:58 PM
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)
You utter bastard. :rogpipe:
I think I am angrier with myself for still falling for it
I can't speak for Juana but...
Phone, WiFi and 4G LTE are both having the issue (I switch back and forth on occasion). HTTPS, of course, and the dark mobile theme you put together (thanks for that by the way!)
Quote from: altered on March 04, 2020, 10:09:37 PM
I can't speak for Juana but...
Phone, WiFi and 4G LTE are both having the issue (I switch back and forth on occasion). HTTPS, of course, and the dark mobile theme you put together (thanks for that by the way!)
LTE speeds should be good, and wifi shoudn't be it unless you where having issues with multiple websites, though I am seeing some weird lag:
https://www.dotcom-tools.com/website-speed-test.aspx#F80EE45A864B456EAD960E8A42974AAC
Tests speeds from around the place, and I am seeing some as high as six seconds, in others 0-1 second, I'm wondering are there regional things going on, or the website itself is serving inconsistently. I'll have a look from the server side and see if there is anything going o
btw:I haven't forgotten about the contrast for the dark theme either by the way (I see it myself at work, it can be hard to read the text), will play around with it a bit more first free day I get
Quote from: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 09:36:58 PM
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)
:trolling:
Update!
This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.
The word has gone out that this is done. It's literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.
Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff I've been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.
That's a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.
The Gay Agenda: funding your friends' trips to The Gay Bar. I'll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.
Quote from: Faust on March 04, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 04, 2020, 05:20:07 PM
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?
Here comes the inquisition.
I'm not seeing any slow down, if you want I can take a look, if so:
How are you accessing it, phone or desktop, if phone wifi or 3g?
Are you using https or plain http? What forum theme are you using?
Lmao, all good.
- phone, desktop (Chrome and Chrome OS, if that matters), WiFi (multiple networks), and 4G.
- HTTPS across the board. The theme that is supposed to be more mobile friendly bc I'm mostly a mobile user at this point.
Super not looking forward to any of my super expensive conferences to be cancelled because of Coronavirus.
They're still a couple months off, so I have time, at least for Kalamazoo. Oxford is a different animal since we're making an actual vacation of it, and have a crazy trip booked across Southern England.
Trying not to get my anxiety get the best of me with this, but I do need to sit down and get these papers written, nonetheless.
The UK does seem to be taking the virus somewhat more seriously than the US.
While I can't guess how this will impact summer conferences, which are hugely profitable for our universities, I can say we are at least carrying out tests at a respectable rate. Not as good as South Korea (no-one is as good as South Korea) but it is at least being taken seriously by the government and NHS.
Quote from: Cain on March 06, 2020, 04:21:38 PM
The UK does seem to be taking the virus somewhat more seriously than the US.
While I can't guess how this will impact summer conferences, which are hugely profitable for our universities, I can say we are at least carrying out tests at a respectable rate. Not as good as South Korea (no-one is as good as South Korea) but it is at least being taken seriously by the government and NHS.
We'd like to take it seriously, but Mike Pence is trying to pray it away instead.
Quote from: altered on March 05, 2020, 01:51:55 AM
Update!
This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.
The word has gone out that this is done. It's literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.
Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff I've been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.
That's a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.
The Gay Agenda: funding your friends' trips to The Gay Bar. I'll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.
That's great. That's a pretty good dollar.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: altered on March 05, 2020, 01:51:55 AM
Update!
This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.
The word has gone out that this is done. It’s literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.
Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff I’ve been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.
That’s a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.
The Gay Agenda: funding your friends’ trips to The Gay Bar. I’ll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.
That's great. That's a pretty good dollar.
Yep. I have pressure from one of the roommates saying I might be on the streets before the training even starts for it all, but if I can dodge that fate I can give this roommate the double finger, take my router (“oh you want internet? Haha funny”) and get an apartment I can put my friend up in so he doesn’t have to be around roommates who want to party till 5AM and don’t care if he needs to work in the morning.
I might be nocturnal but I’m at least goddamned polite about it.
EDIT: The hunt is on for a situation from the 18th to first paycheck, because the roommate wants hard copy paperwork proof I have a job lined up, and refuses to change her mind on the date anyway? Fuck her. The only point of wanting the paperwork if she’s not going to do anything differently is to accuse my friend of lying so I don’t go to the streets, which manages to be offensive as fuck to literally everyone involved for the sake of being offensive to literally everyone. No other fucking point in asking for paperwork you will fucking ignore.
I have a special plan for her.
Quote from: altered on March 07, 2020, 02:48:23 AM
I have a special plan for her.
Try not to burn bridges, unless you have no choice. Use remotely-detonated mines, instead. It's
funnier.
Good luck. You can do this.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 10, 2020, 01:22:19 PM
Quote from: altered on March 07, 2020, 02:48:23 AM
I have a special plan for her.
Try not to burn bridges, unless you have no choice. Use remotely-detonated mines, instead. It's funnier.
Good luck. You can do this.
This is a careful situation, because there is a lovely demon cat involved that I want ONLY the best for. For all his faults, he is one of my favorite cats in a lifetime of good cats.
This vengeance has to have devastating effect, incalculable fallout, and absolutely no unintended consequences. It will be a vengeance lovingly crafted, intricate and irreplaceable, like a Swiss watch.
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.
This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 10, 2020, 06:22:28 PM
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.
This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.
I dont mean it to be taken as discouraging, but my "coming-back-to" fitness has taken me a long 5 years... but perhaps because i was more on the side of emaciation rather than overweight... the important thing is to just keep at it even if one doesnt see results, trying to keep as a goal to do 10 hours of exersice at least per month. Some months i crunch in 20 hours and I really see fast results, but I have other important things to do, 10 hours is slower progress but it isnt such a big burden.
Quote from: The Johnny on March 10, 2020, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 10, 2020, 06:22:28 PM
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.
This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.
I dont mean it to be taken as discouraging, but my "coming-back-to" fitness has taken me a long 5 years... but perhaps because i was more on the side of emaciation rather than overweight... the important thing is to just keep at it even if one doesnt see results, trying to keep as a goal to do 10 hours of exersice at least per month. Some months i crunch in 20 hours and I really see fast results, but I have other important things to do, 10 hours is slower progress but it isnt such a big burden.
Right now my schedule is about 10 hrs per week. I lost my job recently because of certain bullshit, but have a nice part time job lined up. I intend to fill in the extra hours of my schedule with low impact exercise like elliptical and basic resistance training.
I've never known the struggle from the other end. I'm glad to hear that you've been getting better over 5 years. I intend to work a lifelong exercise regimen. For all my size and strength I am in bad cardiovascular shape and my muscles are pretty much entirely out of condition. Just going to keep at it! Hope your own struggles pay off too.
I might have to write off the job offer.
I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I don't, I can't do the work so I can't get the job.
If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.
Well, my district cancelled all non essential events for students and staff alike until at least April.
Quote from: altered on March 11, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
I might have to write off the job offer.
I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I don't, I can't do the work so I can't get the job.
If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.
I'm wishing you luck, man.
Quote from: Juana on March 12, 2020, 11:12:53 PM
Well, my district cancelled all non essential events for students and staff alike until at least April.
Quote from: altered on March 11, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
I might have to write off the job offer.
I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I don't, I can't do the work so I can't get the job.
If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.
I'm wishing you luck, man.
As if by magic, with your wishing of luck comes SUCCESS.
I'm set! Oh yes!!!
is it working out?? can't tell if that's joy or gallows humor. Fingers are crossed into pretzels for you, altered
What Cram said. I'm hoping my words were magically helpful.
They ACTUALLY WERE.
Within an hour of you sending that post I had NOT ONE but TWO places to go. Texas or Michigan so only one was an actual choice BUT! BUT!!!
No sarcasm no joke, I'm good to go!
Kickass!! Really psyched for you!
Right on.
I'm excited for me too!
Also, and TWJ and Cram will probably get a kick out of this...
Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).
Things are already Going On. Microwave fires. Cat food going bad for no reason (and the cats know and avoid it). Electrical disturbances that conveniently only affect her room and the kitchen (which is beside her room).
And I tell you now I have had absolutely nothing to do with this. Not in a ha-ha sense, either. I literally have been asleep for most of it and only see the aftermaths.
She's getting what she deserves in the most hilarious way possible.
Welp, my district is closing for the next month. At least California is offering emergency unemployment.
That's what you get for naming things Eris.
Quote from: altered on March 13, 2020, 09:51:12 PM
I'm excited for me too!
Huzzah!
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Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).
It would be weird if you were to pray to the plant, and give it tiny offerings of compost.
Houseplants are usually planted in potting soil, which is already very high in organic matter; this makes compost a gift of questionable utility. A better offering would be some nice silt, perhaps with a little clay mixed in (err on the sandy side if Eris is a cactus). Eris might also enjoy some nitrogen fertilizer.
When praying to Eris, try to avoid making eye contact with meristematic tissue.
Yaaay Altered!!!
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: altered on March 13, 2020, 09:51:12 PM
I'm excited for me too!
Huzzah!
Quote
Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).
It would be weird if you were to pray to the plant, and give it tiny offerings of compost.
Houseplants are usually planted in potting soil, which is already very high in organic matter; this makes compost a gift of questionable utility. A better offering would be some nice silt, perhaps with a little clay mixed in (err on the sandy side if Eris is a cactus). Eris might also enjoy some nitrogen fertilizer.
When praying to Eris, try to avoid making eye contact with meristematic tissue.
DO IT
The houseplant is kept out of reach, so this is a less than useful approach.
Fortunately, it also seems entirely unnecessary. Odd happenings are the new normal here.
In other news, I was hungry and my friend was hungry and we have a passive aggressive thing going on where we don't use dishes because we get blamed for them being ABSOLUTELY FILTHY.
So we go to order the cheapest dinner possible: 7-11 pizza. That's 14 bucks for two large pizzas. It's a steal and is surprisingly good pizza.
And 7-11's delivery app is totally down.
There is this amazing Indian place in the area that makes HEAVENLY butter chicken curry, huge parathas, and feeds two people twice for 12 dollars. We figured they'd be stomped due to COVID, but decided to check. Not only are they not stomped, they're having a sale.
It's hard to express just how much food a paratha full of curry and rice, wrapped like a burrito, actually is. It weighs about as much as an average human infant, and requires an entire kitchen counter to assemble.
Meanwhile, shitty roommates are out of food, vegan so they can't eat our food, and munching on mini donuts. Glaring while we eat like imperial royalty.
daaaamn, you're making me hungry
You're gonna need to placate the Eris plant. You could do that with some ground beef, like a venus fly trap. Or you could put a little Kallisti apple in the soil with it. Or blood. "Feed me, Seymore". Tell your roommate that the Internet Discordians said this would end the curse. Then, don't do any of it. Then, just straight up smash a dish on the floor.
So, my family did a genealogy DNA test thingy. Some things were pretty expected with the results, but there were a few surprises:
QuoteIrish Scots & Welsh = 41%
English =25.7%
Scandinavian = 24.8%
Balkan = 7.4%
Greek/South Italian = 1.3%
West Asian (Turkey/Iran) = 0.5%
Ironically, against everything that is supposedly the case in our family history, my mother's side has almost no English blood whatsoever, and a large amount of both Scandinavian and Scots/Irish ancestery. My father's side, which has always maintained it had Irish/Scots roots is, on the other hand, overwhelmingly English in origin, though with some Balkan roots as well.
As I understand it, such tests are supposed to lead to immediate drama with long lost siblings, surprise bigamy and irreparable family strife. Is yours defective?
:lulz: I find these tests funny. All the drama I've gotten from them in my family has been to my benefit in the long run, while they break down into ever more intense tirades at each other.
In other news, Eris is not long for this world. Low temperatures and insufficient sunlight are murdering her, and I have begun mourning her coming death by listening to slam death metal at 2AM while packing my stuff.
Relatedly, I don't know if they've begun to recognize why the cats are crowding around me and hissing at them yet. (These cats love me and love my music more and love my hidden cat treats most of all. Everyday, a hungry kitty mosh pit.)
Oh, and I was gifted a box of sugar free gum. So I also don't know what they're going to do when their toilet backs up.
C'est la vie, you know?
All my family drama is preexisting and quite indepth (up to and including trying to kill my grandmother) so fortunately there is no need for drama here.
Quote from: altered on March 14, 2020, 10:09:38 PM
In other news, Eris is not long for this world. Low temperatures and insufficient sunlight are murdering her, and I have begun mourning her coming death by listening to slam death metal at 2AM while packing my stuff.
This makes me angry. Keeping houseplants alive takes little skill, and very little effort. What kind of person names their houseplants, anyway? The kind of person who thinks good intentions and positive emotions matters more than spending five seconds a day checking on the damn thing?
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Relatedly, I don't know if they've begun to recognize why the cats are crowding around me and hissing at them yet. (These cats love me and love my music more and love my hidden cat treats most of all. Everyday, a hungry kitty mosh pit.)
These people shouldn't be allowed to keep cats. Cats are an order of magnitude higher maintenance than houseplants. The only thing making it easier is that when a cat gets hungry/unhappy it will make noises at you.
I hope they're okay after you leave.
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Oh, and I was gifted a box of sugar free gum. So I also don't know what they're going to do when their toilet backs up.
I'm sorry. I don't know what they're going to do, either. Maybe if they named the toilet, that would help? They could call it Belphegor (https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Belphegor).
Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isn't meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.
The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they aren't eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they can't take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)
And they wouldn't name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. They're high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They don't even have a plunger.
That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.
I've been SAVING UP.
hey, why do love you?
#Because you're another human.
No answering your own questions, that's almost as bad as liking your own Facebook posts.
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Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isn't meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.
The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they aren't eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they can't take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)
And they wouldn't name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. They're high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They don't even have a plunger.
That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.
I've been SAVING UP.
Save the cats. Take them with you.
Quote from: Juana on March 16, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
Quote from: altered on March 15, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isn't meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.
The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they aren't eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they can't take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)
And they wouldn't name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. They're high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They don't even have a plunger.
That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.
I've been SAVING UP.
Save the cats. Take them with you.
I wish I could. I physically cannot. I cannot even take all of my own stuff with me, a large proportion has to stay in Chicago hellhole temporarily (I have a trusted caretaker, do not worry).
Packing is almost complete: I just need to finish doing laundry, pack clothes and blanket, and it's all but completely ready. The very last thing is sealing up an electronic device I cannot fit in another object for safe transit.
The governor is telling us not to expect schools to open back up for the remainder of this school year. Woof.
Our schools are closed until the end of March, and for some reason a lot of people seem to think this whole thing will have blown over by then. :roll:
I had a guy tonight tell me that the death rate won't be nearly as high here as it was in China because China is a third world country that doesn't have hospitals. :horrormirth:
The end of April will probably be the time we have a better idea what is going on. If the UK keeps to current trends, it will probably be like Italy is now at that point.
Mid April is when we're supposed to be considering re-opening but 🤷. Fresno may or may not be going on total lockdown starting at midnight anyway and who knows how long that'll last.
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.
Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2020, 08:39:37 PM
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.
Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.
Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.
You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.
Quote from: altered on March 18, 2020, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.
You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.
:lulz:
Quote from: altered on March 18, 2020, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:12:02 PM
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.
You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.
Don't blame me. I voted for Howl. Who was the running mate again? TGRR?
Anyway, our school has just stated they're planning to stay online through the first summer session. They'll decide go/no-go on May 1 whether or not to have activities on campus after July 1.
In the meantime, I've had 7+ zoom meetings in 2 days and their stock is soaring.
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Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2020, 08:39:37 PM
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.
Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.
Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."
Here lies humanity.
"Herd immunity"
Didn't work.
I'm on a train ride to some random place, Michigan right now. Train is surprisingly low occupancy, even considering COVID and no one wanting to go to Michigan. Not a total ghost town though.
I'm torn between laughter, tears, and rage, but I have to hold it in. I'm counting on me.
Quote from: altered on March 18, 2020, 10:55:14 PM
I'm on a train ride to some random place, Michigan right now. Train is surprisingly low occupancy, even considering COVID and no one wanting to go to Michigan. Not a total ghost town though.
I'm torn between laughter, tears, and rage, but I have to hold it in. I'm counting on me.
I'm rooting for you altered. Your ability to endure alone has earned my respect. The fact that you're also super smart and scrappy is just icing. You keep on trucking girl! I'll do the same.
It helps to learn that a nu metal band so shitty even I can't find any reason someone would like them is getting bullied so hard by furries that they have tweeted 4700 times about how they have a ton of Pandora listeners. There is nothing about this shit that isn't funny.
Trapt sucks, by the way, and I say that as someone who LIKES THAT GENRE. Also they're Trump supporters and just look at this shit I'm dying on public transit https://twitter.com/chinchillazllla/status/1240372791892901888
40 pages of this thread have come and gone, and I'm back again. I'll read through em some other time, I have a final portfolio to cobble together now that it's the end of the day and my other two class' final projects have gone unfinished. Last quarter was less astro-hyper-shitty than I thought it'd be; turns out I barely passed Greek I, and passed the other classes better than I thought I would. So that's nice.
Granted, I didn't buy the book for the class that I replaced Greeek II with this quarter, couldn't bring myself to write 7 pages about one of my favorite Tom Lehrer songs, and said class is one of the aforementioned two that have unfinished final papers. For another class, I could barely bring myself to read anything other than Assata Shakur's autobiography, and that's the *other* class I haven't finished the paper on, but I'm trying not to get bogged-down in the self-shit about all that too much. I keep getting bogged down by the holies, drop, and the acrid taste in my mouth from all the bullets I'm preparing to bite.
I am both itching to Do Things, and mortified to begin trying. But, c'est la vie. The only other thing I know for sure is I'm tired of self-induced radio-silence interspersed with sad whining and the wet sounds of placation. But, thanks to some of you mad bastards and your stupid meaningful words, I'm slowly becoming more ready to turn dials and flip switches in my brainmeat again.
Here's to The FUTURE.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2020, 08:39:37 PM
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.
Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.
Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."
This also works:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELfXv3WXkAARCJX?format=jpg&name=900x900)
I have a fever today, so staying home.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2020, 03:16:35 PM
I have a fever today, so staying home.
Take care of yourself.
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
Starting Monday, we have to have our temperature scanned before we can come in to work. Anything 99+ gets sent home on PTO.
Blocked on Facebook for 30 days. Offending post section was blank. Blocked from asking for a review.
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 AM
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 AM
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
Seriously. The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 AM
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
Seriously. The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.
It's done. My exact wording was
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Sooo... Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.
Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:53:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:38:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:38:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 AM
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
Seriously. The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.
It's done. My exact wording was
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Sooo... Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.
Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.
You know, I've gotten a lot less "direct" as I get older.
That being said, if I ever meet a facebook mod, they're gonna have a
really bad time.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:58:41 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:53:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:38:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:38:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 AM
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
Seriously. The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.
It's done. My exact wording was
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Sooo... Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.
Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.
You know, I've gotten a lot less "direct" as I get older.
That being said, if I ever meet a facebook mod, they're gonna have a really bad time.
I don't blame you. I've got a certain sense of vengeance myself. I don't even dress it up as justice. Fuck an eye for an eye. I'm more like the old if they send one of ours to the hospital we send six to the morgue. If it's time, might as well be overkill.
I try very hard to be a "decent" person, but I have a feeling that a season for doing very bad things and setting scores will soon be upon us as folks realize in ever greater numbers that they almost literally have nothing left to lose. Part of me feels dread, part of me is practically salivating in anticipation.
Mostly I just need more sleep than I've been getting.
Since FB sent all their mod staff home, I wonder if this was just auto-flagged and banned?
It might explain both there being no reason (the bot can't select one) and why you can't appeal (there's no-one to read them). I'm not defending FB in any way, just trying to figure out why this time is different.
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2020, 04:27:44 AM
Since FB sent all their mod staff home, I wonder if this was just auto-flagged and banned?
It might explain both there being no reason (the bot can't select one) and why you can't appeal (there's no-one to read them). I'm not defending FB in any way, just trying to figure out why this time is different.
I figure that's probably the case, given the other day, but fuck 'em anyway.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah, the mods are all home. I have a friend in Ireland who manages a team of FB mods. It sounds like pretty soul-crushing work, the dude is ragged. He's seen some shit.
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that
Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that
yep, dublin. My friend said his job is hyper-stressful and "insomnia-inducing"
They do run the mods ragged. Toilet breaks are timed, you have to make a decision on whether something should stay up within x number of seconds of being flagged, zero hour contracts or as close to as possible...stupid shit like that. And most notably, no real support for the PTSD they're willingly inflicting on their workforce. Like, I've had to sit through hundreds of hours worth of terrorist material, including shootings, bombs, executions...PTSD by proxy is very real. But I've chosen, willingly, to investigate this kind of thing and I know what I'm expecting, going in. My chances of seeing child pornography while doing this, for example, are virtually nil.
Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that
And then they ban people for making fun of Nazis?
Or maybe that's just the people who could stay in the job. If you know what I mean.
The post that got me banned was the Osama Bin Ladin "This is why I bomb people" meme, posted in response to Pango's last pun.
So I am glad to hear that with pedos uploading porn and actual Nazis running around, this is what they choose to police.
Fuck those guys. Right in their ear holes.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that
And then they ban people for making fun of Nazis?
Or maybe that's just the people who could stay in the job. If you know what I mean.
I dont think so. Though I wouldnt put it past them.
What I think is happening is, all past ban history shows for moderators on facebook, so if they see a long list they have an inherent bias towards you and are more likely to keep banning you.
Kenny Rogers broke even last night. :cry:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 04:09:56 AM
I don't blame you. I've got a certain sense of vengeance myself. I don't even dress it up as justice.
What is called justice is often just revenge that has been outsourced to a disinterested third party.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 09:01:52 PM
Kenny Rogers broke even last night. :cry:
I was going to make a joke about at least being out of the Danger Zone, but that was Loggins.
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2020, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 09:01:52 PM
Kenny Rogers broke even last night. :cry:
I was going to make a joke about at least being out of the Danger Zone, but that was Loggins.
The only thing I've found that was funny about it was the perspective that considering the impending apocalypse technically he got out of the game at just the right time.
It's not very funny, but I like to think he's counting his chips now and snickering at the suckers still at the table. It's something anyway.
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 04:18:55 AM
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Glad to hear it. Hopefully you and yours won't have to deal with the fucker.
One of the worst things about it, extraordinary contagion aside, is that it's so damn chaotic about presentation and progression of symptoms. It's maddening to question every little goddamn sniffle, sore throat, or temp as possible evidence that you've been contagious for a while now. I hate that you can only really know post facto whether or not your quarantine was effective. This and the mutation factor, there are at least two identified strains now, are why I think this is going to wind up endemic to humans. It's not something that 1 vaccine can fix.
In other news I intended to do a bunch of rabble rousing and calls for community action in my ample free time and start networking as well as I can within my local community. There's nothing else that's going to be of real help to real people in the new state of play the game is in, but it's obviously not a "game" being played for fun. I'm in this for real stakes now. If I manage to convince even one person to make themselves helpful where they otherwise would not, for any reason, I have succeeded. I have won. It's a very low bar, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to "win more" once I get going.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 04:18:55 AM
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Glad you're feeling better!
Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 04:18:55 AM
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Glad you're feeling better!
Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?
Nobody I'm aware of knows for sure yet.
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 04:18:55 AM
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Glad you're feeling better!
Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?
Too early to tell if there's reincidence or immunity. I wonder if one can be a recovered carrier of it and simultaneously being susceptible to reincidence, sounds contradictory.
Apparently one can be a carrier for 14 days after being "cured"
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 02:47:42 PM
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.
Hopefully it's about how they've only thus far avoided being beaten with sticks due to social distancing.
My test came back negative. I just had the sinus bug that's going around.
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 02:47:42 PM
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.
I think that just went out of style, except for the GLP/Qanon contingent.
They are being really quiet about it. If a vaccine is developed and the facts put in front of them are literally: If you dont take this you may die, it undermines a lot of their arguments about their kids being harmed by the vaccine when the alternative is death directly, which they dont believe will happen for mumps or rubella (even though we had 34 deaths last year in Ireland for mumps and one moron got rubella last month and had his house blockaded so he couldnt bring his kids to school.
I think their discourse is gonna get dragged into "bio-weapon" territory.
I've heard vaccines are actually just heroine overdose to euthanize democrats.
Quote from: Frontside Back on March 23, 2020, 05:10:28 PM
I've heard vaccines are actually just heroine overdose to euthanize democrats.
I'm so alone.
Good to hear you don't have the rona, Roger!
I'm still seeing SOME activity from the antivax types but much less. The occasional peep and that's about it.
Quote from: Juana on March 23, 2020, 08:06:29 PM
Good to hear you don't have the rona, Roger!
I'm still seeing SOME activity from the antivax types but much less. The occasional peep and that's about it.
It's a hard knock life for willing plague vectors. Reality has a way of crushing fashion.
Quote from: altered on March 21, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
How's it going up there? You all situated?
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: altered on March 21, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
How's it going up there? You all situated?
There's logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*
Me
My friend
My friend's mother and stepfather
My friend's brother
My friend's sister and her husband
Trying to live in it together without going insane.
We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.
Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.
It is chaos.
It's still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.
The antivaxxer I know has it. She's also got asthma and another condition that puts her at higher risk.
She went to the grocery store AGAIN.
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Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: altered on March 21, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
How's it going up there? You all situated?
There's logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*
Me
My friend
My friend's mother and stepfather
My friend's brother
My friend's sister and her husband
Trying to live in it together without going insane.
We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.
Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.
It is chaos.
It's still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.
woah that sounds crowded! Glad you've landed though. Do you have your own space within the house that you can retreat to?
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 24, 2020, 04:34:22 AM
The antivaxxer I know has it. She's also got asthma and another condition that puts her at higher risk.
She went to the grocery store AGAIN.
:science:
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Quote from: altered on March 24, 2020, 01:18:18 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: altered on March 21, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
How's it going up there? You all situated?
There's logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*
Me
My friend
My friend's mother and stepfather
My friend's brother
My friend's sister and her husband
Trying to live in it together without going insane.
We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.
Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.
It is chaos.
It's still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.
woah that sounds crowded! Glad you've landed though. Do you have your own space within the house that you can retreat to?
Yeah, currently. There is the risk of that being lost, though.
Unfortunately, even now it's crowded to the point that I am sitting here starving because people are asleep in the exact position to completely block access to the kitchen in a way that makes it physically impossible to get past if you're dealing with horrendous gut pain. So I cannot eat until they wake up because I have horrendous gut pain.
I could wake them up, you say? Not so. There is a door in the way. It's shut. Pinned. This is why it is impossible: I would need to shove it open when I can barely sit up. I would need help from the other side, but my voice is inaudible because deep breathing is AGONY on my stomach.
My life is a cartoon.
Could someone post on my page that I am negative from corona and have recovered from whatever it was?
I have done so. I also let everybody know the piss thing.
Quote from: Cramulus on March 24, 2020, 06:42:44 PM
I have done so. I also let everybody know the piss thing.
It's nice that someone finally stepped up to TGRR and Enrico's shoes.
And pissed on them.
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
Quote from: Suu on March 24, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
The never ending Rummy game has an open seat.
Quote from: Suu on March 24, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?
I was hoping to build the raised garden bed we've been planning and get some planting done but it is cold as balls and raining. ☹️ I'd bake instead but I haven't had a kitchen since mid November and the home insurance company is DRAGGING THEIR FUCKING FEET on paying up and the cabinets are taking forever, so I can't.
Quote from: Juana on March 24, 2020, 11:33:21 PM
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Quote from: Suu on March 24, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?
Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.
Non Aggression Principle. It's libertarianism for letting people die miserably in an ethical, moral way.
Cain, Faust, we have two in the waiting room that MIGHT be legit, but they have the same email provider.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 25, 2020, 12:58:43 AM
Cain, Faust, we have two in the waiting room that MIGHT be legit, but they have the same email provider.
Thanks. Turned out they were not, which makes me sad. It's a poor day when the spammers are pretending to be innocent fanfiction writers.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 24, 2020, 11:33:21 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2020, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 24, 2020, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 24, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?
Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.
Non Aggression Principle. It's libertarianism for letting people die miserably in an ethical, moral way.
Or alternatively kill them with extreme prejudice for meeting some arbitrary definition of aggression:
(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/awQVVzD_460s.jpg)
But mostly violating the NAP means a libertarian is crying somewhere about the inherent unfairness, and so it should be encouraged.
Perfection. I was hoping it would be that when I clicked on the link.
There's a "Discordian" "Libertarian" FB group I'm a member of but only as a sort of rarely posting monitor. Now I have something WORTH posting there.
Oh this is gonna be good... :evil:
Just for shits I also posted it to one of Vermin Supreme's political groups demanding a policy discussion about his platform.
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2020, 07:07:49 AM
Perfection. I was hoping it would be that when I clicked on the link.
Pretty sure it was from you that I first heard of it.
I have a feeling that someone I know (in real life and also FB) is an ancap, and that I will have to introduce him to it very soon.
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.
After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.
And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.
I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.
He blocked me.
I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.
Quote from: Suu on March 25, 2020, 05:24:29 PM
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.
After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.
And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.
I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.
He blocked me.
I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.
"IMA FREE MAN DON'T NEED NO GUBMINT!"
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:chickenhawk:
"I'M REPORTING YOU."
\
:joshua:
THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
/
:ronpaul:
THIS COURT HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
/
:ronpaul:
THIS JAIL CELL HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
/
:ronpaul:
:suu:
BAD LADY SAY ME NO FREEDOM! ME APPEAL TO AUTHORITY TO PROVE BAD LADY'S WRONGLIES NO HURT ME.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2020, 07:06:04 PM
:suu:
BAD LADY SAY ME NO FREEDOM! ME APPEAL TO AUTHORITY TO PROVE BAD LADY'S WRONGLIES NO HURT ME.
I may need to update my personal meme to include how fucking gray I've gotten in the last 10 years.
"Suu is prematurely going gray because of your bullshit".
Quote from: Suu on March 25, 2020, 05:24:29 PM
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.
After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.
He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.
So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.
And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.
I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.
He blocked me.
I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.
:golfclap: :lulz: that's a delight.
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
"Suu is prematurely going gray because of your bullshit".
brb.
So what's new, everybody?
WHAT'S UP, HOOPS?
No news is good news, I guess -- my fiance and I are still employed, healthy, and have clean asses.
Getting more exercise and fresh air than ever before. Talking to family and friends I haven't talked to in years.
So, compared with a lot of people, am handling this thing well so far.
It's still scary though - my fiance has some pretty bad athsma--if she got pneumonia it could be a problem. And as you've no doubt seen in the news, New York is short by tens of thousands of ventillators.
Real worried for all my friends who are getting furloughed and laid off.
Not much new here. Still working from home for about 5 hours a day, then spending my spare time trying to master the infinite mysteries of the Veteran Maelstom Arena, and failing. One day Fa-Nuit-Hen will have to give me an inferno staff, but not today.
That aside, things are alright here. I managed to resupply yesterday, the shop actually had (some) soup and pasta, which is a miracle. They've introduced limits on people who can go into the shops at any one time. Fortunately people around here are fairly sensible and are observing social distancing while waiting their turn.
Family is also fine. My parents are isolated in the countryside somewhere in Norfolk and my father - who would otherwise be my main concern, since he nearly killed himself last year with a fantastic combination of flu, pneumonia and sepsis -is working from home until retirement later this year.
Quote from: Hoopla! on March 27, 2020, 01:23:32 PM
So what's new, everybody?
Shame, failure, and degradation.
The new part is that it is now universal.
"Think stupidly, act globally."
- JR "Bob" Dobbs.
Jephph is still considered essential, you know, being active duty and all. So he's continuing the commute to and from work, while I stay home and inside all day since I'm considered high risk according to the Naval Hospital. I'm asthmatic, have been since I was three, and have autoimmune disease. Pour one out.
Jephph is also asthmatic, but only allergen-driven, and never gets sick. Until he does get sick, and then he's pretty much on his death bed the whole time, and not a mancold, either. No, he can thwart a sniffle. We caught something in January from my sister. They didn't test her for influenza, but that's what UC said it was. This was after she showed up for Christmas morning with a mask on. Jephph caught it a week later, and it flattened him on the couch. It took two weeks for me to become symptomatic (highly uncharacteristic of the flu, no?) But bounced off of me with a mild sniffle and fever for 2 days, followed by two weeks of insane coughing. We alerted Jephph's command doc, and he said while he can't rule it out, based on reports of similar illness on base at the time, there is no titer test for COVID yet for us to know for sure.
My parents are locked in at home, my dad is now referring to my brother as the Gestapo, because he won't let them go anywhere. Considering my dad is Type 2 Diabetic, physically disabled from polio, with chronic bronchitis from being a habitual pot smoker, PLUS hypertension, who travels to and from Europe for work, he's got a fucking bullseye on him. My brother is thankfully on salary from a dental lab, and is able to help my parents out financially, since my dad doesn't get paid unless he works.
My mom is a known and noted Typhoid Mary. She catches things, doesn't exhibit symptoms, and distributes them in secret, like chickenpox, influenza, and mononucleosis. We don't trust her.
My sister is doing supply drops, since she's considered essential personnel working at a gun shop. *stares at camera*
We were supposed to be on that side of the state this week to visit. That's definitely not happening.
So far so good wrt health in my family. My parents are retired, my sibling works from home rn, my sister is still getting paid, and my BIL might not be but my sister is the property bread winner.
Employed but effectively unemployed bc I work for a school district as a sub. The board is supposed to meet next Wednesday to decide if they're going to extend the school closure beyond April 13th and the teacher's union expects they will. Unlike the teachers, though, I don't get paid unless I'm working. So emergency unemployment insurance time!
Also this might derail my career for a year but we'll see. I am in the teaching candidate pool for my district and who the fuck knows when I'll hear back at this point. Hopefully the district will have at least some kind of solid distance learning thingy set up at least by August so they'll be able to get the kids back in school and me a fucking job.
I assume you've already looked into this as an option, but how is online tutoring looking? Quite a few companies are already set up for it (mostly TEFL courses), I would imagine there is significant room to expand given everything that's going on. And I'm sure parents would love an extra hour's break from their kids while trying to work from home.
I imagine the main problem is that there would be a lot of teachers suddenly looking to do this, all at once.
Quote from: Cain on March 27, 2020, 08:20:20 PM
I assume you've already looked into this as an option, but how is online tutoring looking? Quite a few companies are already set up for it (mostly TEFL courses), I would imagine there is significant room to expand given everything that's going on. And I'm sure parents would love an extra hour's break from their kids while trying to work from home.
I imagine the main problem is that there would be a lot of teachers suddenly looking to do this, all at once.
Yep, I'm planning to. My cousin works for one of those online TEFL companies already and she'd had a good experience, so I'm eyeing her company. But yeah, there's gonna be a lot of teachers looking for this. Therefore, unemployment insurance in the mean time bc idk how this is going to impact my ability to apply for unemployment over the summer, since I can't save enough to survive summer vacation.
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord
also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord
the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.
no spaces, all lowercase.
going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]
Quote from: Bu☆ns on March 27, 2020, 08:52:30 PM
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord
also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord
the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.
no spaces, all lowercase.
going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]
I will probably drop in tonight, given that I am banned on FB again, only this time I didn't do anything. :lulz:
Did they say why?
Quote from: Juana on March 27, 2020, 09:30:51 PM
Did they say why?
Pango told a bad pun, and I post a pic of OBL saying "This is why I bomb people".
The bots banned me. Reviews are shut off because FB shut its office down for the duration.
hey i'm back.
Currently holed up in a cabin in Idyllwild until the curve flattens. Work is letting me stay off the schedule without actually firing me, and my manager seems okay letting me stay out here on a week to week basis. So i'm trying to see this a a psuedo vacation, hanging with my roommates lots of food, and all of our nerd shit.
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 28, 2020, 05:42:19 AM
hey i'm back.
Currently holed up in a cabin in Idyllwild until the curve flattens. Work is letting me stay off the schedule without actually firing me, and my manager seems okay letting me stay out here on a week to week basis. So i'm trying to see this a a psuedo vacation, hanging with my roommates lots of food, and all of our nerd shit.
Nerd shit is going to be big. All the sports are done as we knew them. Watch gaming become a pandemic of sorts.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on March 27, 2020, 08:52:30 PM
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord
also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord (https://cytu.be/r/fnord)
the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.
no spaces, all lowercase.
going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]
This is cool, and welcome back everyone!
Quote from: LuciferX on March 28, 2020, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on March 27, 2020, 08:52:30 PM
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord
also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord (https://cytu.be/r/fnord)
the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.
no spaces, all lowercase.
going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]
This is cool, and welcome back everyone!
:pax:
My wife is a nurse, her hospital is almost out of protective gear. Fortunately she and I are both healthy and not too old so we will probably survive when she inevitably catches corona. Unfortunately she was just warned she might have diabetes, which would make her chances of surviving considerably lower.
Quote from: Pergamos on March 29, 2020, 11:13:34 AM
My wife is a nurse, her hospital is almost out of protective gear. Fortunately she and I are both healthy and not too old so we will probably survive when she inevitably catches corona. Unfortunately she was just warned she might have diabetes, which would make her chances of surviving considerably lower.
Diabetes itself won't hurt her chances. Complications from diabetes will.
Get that blood sugar down. I have a few useful tips if desired, though presumably as a health professional, she knows them already.
How disrespectful would it be to play off the rent strike thing as april fools gag?
I live in a welfare state and I've heard no one even talking about the thing. My personal rent situation is quite okay cause I can always take more student loans, but the idea of first horrifying my landlord, and then expressing a complete lack of spine just makes me giggle. Giggling means it's a good idea right?
Worst case scenario, the landlord is a complete grayface, I end up homeless and save loads of money.
Don't get me wrong, if anyone is doing the strike either because they must, or out of solidarity for those who do I wish them all the best. If I grow balls over night I might join you in your serious struggle for a better world. It just doesn't make me giggle.
I think my sister, who is still being paid and makes like $50k is considering it. I think it's a bit distasteful to turn it into a joke since a fuck ton of people don't have any other option but ymmv.
We're at 100 confirmed cases and I'm sure the real number is considerably higher. I'm probably gonna take my dog for a walk later and I'll be peeking at the grocery store parking lot to see what it looks like. Hopefully it's even more empty than it already was (about a half the usual last I looked). My kitchen can't get installed soon enough.
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Quote from: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.
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Quote from: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.
Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.
Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
Quote from: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Here at the beginning, here at the end. :lulz:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2020, 02:17:49 AM
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.
It's not the BBS. I have had those problems in the past. Then I scrub the hard drive, nuke cookies, and update my drivers.
Clears it up.
There was that one time that dreamhost fucked everything up gloriously and had a 5 minute refresh, but that was years ago.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2020, 02:17:49 AM
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.
It's not the BBS. I have had those problems in the past. Then I scrub the hard drive, nuke cookies, and update my drivers.
Clears it up.
There was that one time that dreamhost fucked everything up gloriously and had a 5 minute refresh, but that was years ago.
Probably my browser then. It comes and goes. I still primarily use a cheap burner and wifi. I have been getting things set up for a simple computer desk to use an older but quite functional laptop and monitor set up. I intend to start doing a lot of video conferencing and am considering which platforms might be worth buying into to sublet hosting time for gamers and other mass group activities. There's money in a friendly face and being able to speak publicly to anyone who wants to come by. Same for counciling services and training exercises. I'm considering floating the idea of a virtual dojo to my sensei/bestie that I used to live above back in the bad old bedbug days. The lack of actual physical contact will limit what he can teach, but the internal aspects of the arts are mostly meditation exercises.
I have something strange: either some flavor of illness, or the UNFORTUNATELY TIMED beginnings of my smoker's cough.
There is no fever, no tiredness and the cough is more like sludge than a dry cough, so I'm not fearing the plague, but I figure I'll mention it now in case I end up as an unmarked grave in the backwoods of Michigan.
More seriously, plague vectors for me are minimal. I am unconcerned, except for the hyperawareness and paranoia of Plague Times.
Interview tomorrow, though I had thought it was today because I am a gigantic idiot.
Quote from: altered on March 31, 2020, 05:48:49 AM
I have something strange: either some flavor of illness, or the UNFORTUNATELY TIMED beginnings of my smoker's cough.
There is no fever, no tiredness and the cough is more like sludge than a dry cough, so I'm not fearing the plague, but I figure I'll mention it now in case I end up as an unmarked grave in the backwoods of Michigan.
More seriously, plague vectors for me are minimal. I am unconcerned, except for the hyperawareness and paranoia of Plague Times.
Interview tomorrow, though I had thought it was today because I am a gigantic idiot.
There's a sinus thing going around that has a dry cough.
Great fun, I bet a lot of people are terrifying themselves. I'll keep that in mind in case someone starts freaking out around here.
Fortunately, I have a cough like I'm one of those video game enemies that launches poison loogies like the world's grossest artillery division. Combined with lack of fever, I feel pretty safe.
Quote from: altered on March 31, 2020, 05:58:07 AM
Great fun, I bet a lot of people are terrifying themselves. I'll keep that in mind in case someone starts freaking out around here.
Fortunately, I have a cough like I'm one of those video game enemies that launches poison loogies like the world's grossest artillery division. Combined with lack of fever, I feel pretty safe.
I self-isolated for 4 days the week before last with that bug.
But that's because there were no MAGA rallies.
:lulz:
Unfortunately, I cannot drive and this is the kind of place where you'd be lucky to intentionally infect one other person before you'd die of exposure. That's another big part of my not worrying.
That sadly means I cannot perform direct action if I catch the death.
Trying to explain to people on the internet that I still have to go to therapy is fucking terrible. She's not set up for teleconferencing in her office yet, how hard is this to understand? Once she is, we'll transition over.
"Do you REALLY have to go?"
Well I don't fucking know, Karen, do you REALLY want me to take an entire bottle of pills and see what happens for fucking SCIENCE because my depression says it's a good idea?
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Quote from: Juana on March 31, 2020, 02:05:13 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.
Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.
Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
If RWHN comes back, I'm blaming you personally for that fucking nerd.
Quote from: Juana on March 31, 2020, 07:05:23 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 31, 2020, 04:14:33 AM
Quote from: Juana on March 31, 2020, 02:05:13 AM
Quote from: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.
It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.
Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.
Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
If RWHN comes back, I'm blaming you personally for that fucking nerd.
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 31, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
Ok, I'm rent striking now. My demands are:
-I want to be allowed to take pets, a cat in particular.
-nothing
I also have this very dumb feeling that I could've just asked and have better outcomes. :lulz:
I am continuing to have a serious problem posting and even navigating the board. I cleared my cache and even tried downloading firefox app, which btw basically refused to load pd as dangerously unsecured or something. I'm taking this as a sign from Her to finish setting up my little computer desk. Hopefully the thing will work and solve the problem.
Not even sure this post will go through.
Fourth attempt
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 31, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:
If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.
Need to learn how to Zoom anyway. So...
Quote from: altered on April 01, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Need to learn how to Zoom anyway. So...
Well you gotta go fast... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfGjLIPRgDA)
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 31, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:
If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.
That was a great deal of fun. I'll be back on tomorrow night.
I will have to bump the 21C man thing tomorrow morning, because I have found a Tucker Carlson fan page and they need my love.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 03:20:22 AM
Quote from: Juana on April 01, 2020, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 31, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 PM
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on. RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:
If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.
That was a great deal of fun. I'll be back on tomorrow night.
I will have to bump the 21C man thing tomorrow morning, because I have found a Tucker Carlson fan page and they need my love.
It was!! I'll be def running another one tomorrow and take you time!
Looking forward to it! I have a lot of time off and on for the foreseeable future and it's well worth filling with more no-good cretinous bastards. The other options are video games I am not currently enjoying (who knew you could get sick of Bloodborne!) and music I get exiled outside to listen to.
Speaking of that, I have to link some more horrible shit from the era of Tripp pants and white kid dreads.
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.
Actual phonecall from my parents:
Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.
:lulz:
Quote from: Suu on April 02, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.
Actual phonecall from my parents:
Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.
Tell your mom the Asshat Nation has her back in the joint.
Quote from: Suu on April 02, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.
Actual phonecall from my parents:
Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.
Your mother is a few weeks away from organizing raids on forums from one of the underworld chan sites. Its a slippery slope, this is how it starts
As soon as I can manage I want to get in on the zoom thing. Maybe not this session, but soon. I strongly believe that mass conferencing is the way forward for several social staples that can no longer be safely done in person.
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:00:51 PM
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Sounds good to me!
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:00:51 PM
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Just post the group number, if it is different.
Do you need an app for that?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:00:51 PM
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Just post the group number, if it is different.
A host has to start and stay in the meeting, I believe. The ID is still 867-097-9754 tho. I could easily make you or Alter a meeting host, it either of you wants to.
Quote from: LuciferX on April 02, 2020, 10:40:26 PM
Do you need an app for that?
There's an app and a website. I use the app.
I don't have a webcam, but have fun!
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:00:51 PM
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Just post the group number, if it is different.
A host has to start and stay in the meeting, I believe. The ID is still 867-097-9754 tho. I could easily make you or Alter a meeting host, it either of you wants to.
Sadly, I can't host. iOS only for the moment and off-and-on busy. I do appreciate the offer, just no good for me to be hosting anything!
Quote from: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 02, 2020, 10:40:26 PM
Do you need an app for that?
There's an app and a website. I use the app.
I will figure this out :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on April 02, 2020, 10:49:16 PM
I don't have a webcam, but have fun!
Webcams are optional I believe?
Webcams are optional, yes. In fact, when joining a chat you can opt to disable video so it doesn't even try to find a camera.
Hmm, I'm more tempted now, but it is almost midnight and I'm not entirely sure how soundproof the flat is.
My friend (Theo, for Rog and Alter) is running out for anyone who wants in
Quote from: Juana on April 03, 2020, 12:12:57 AM
My friend (Theo, for Rog and Alter) is running out for anyone who wants in
I'm getting set up. Should have a rig put together by the end of the night. Will almost certainly catch the next one.
Also, Roger, I NEED a video of a dildo being fired into that ballistics gel.
I'm hiding over here for good again, Facebook is a toolbox, and everybody has opinions they need to smear across my face like shit, and I'm in no mood for it.
I'm out of fight.
Facebook is trash.
The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.
Well, you're halfway there. The latest update has dark mode.
Quote from: Cain on April 03, 2020, 03:51:10 PM
Facebook is trash.
The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.
I think that whole, "everyone else" thing is why I'm there as well. Other than that, all it does is piss me off, and yelling at people isn't fun anymore. :sad:
Quote from: LMNO on April 03, 2020, 04:00:26 PM
Well, you're halfway there. The latest update has dark mode.
That's why I specifically added felchies. Also we don't have dark mode (or Facebook dating) in the UK yet.
Quote from: Suu on April 03, 2020, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 03, 2020, 03:51:10 PM
Facebook is trash.
The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.
I think that whole, "everyone else" thing is why I'm there as well. Other than that, all it does is piss me off, and yelling at people isn't fun anymore. :sad:
Yeah, you reach a certain point sometimes where it's like "this is just a waste of my own time".
We also don't have Hamish, which I mean, removes a great deal of appeal from social media has a whole.
Quote from: LMNO on April 03, 2020, 04:00:26 PM
Well, you're halfway there. The latest update has dark mode.
Have you actually had good luck with trying that out? I have not. It loaded and froze my entire system. Same with the new live stream "director".
I haven't tried it out yet, tbh
So, since all of my major work for the summer has been officially postponed until next year. I'm debating if I should just crack open one of my expensive beers, or crack open the Benedryl and go back to bed.
So I have completed a major tech upgrade. I am now ready to use Zoom, skype, and other platforms. I would love to see some of you face to face in the not so distant future.
"everybody else is there" is probably the only reason Facebook still exists. We need another mass exodus a la Myspace when Murdock bought it and everybody left.
For Juana:
Let Theo know that Shudder indeed has the remaster of Phantasm and I intend to give it a watch. It’s certainly longer than the version I originally watched, so... hoping that the magic gets me this time.
ETA: Well, done watching. I think I got a feel for why it’s so well loved now.
Unfortunately, it has the Lovecraft problem: excellent ideas, mediocre to terrible execution.
I want to like it more than I do, and I have certainly gotten ideas from it. It just isn’t that great on its own.
Quote from: Suu on April 03, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
We also don't have Hamish, which I mean, removes a great deal of appeal from social media has a whole.
As Juana says, the only reason I go back is that everyone is there.
I spent most of this week working on a single problem. Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated. Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.
Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.
Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever. The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
Welp, my grandma is dying alone, in the middle of a pandemic, in Texas. I have complicated feelings about her (mostly she's a near stranger I don't like very much as a person) but my mom is sad and the fact that no one can be with her is a tragedy.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 06:38:31 PM
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
You are describing a scrubber. It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.
It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.
Quote from: Juana on April 05, 2020, 01:13:55 AM
Welp, my grandma is dying alone, in the middle of a pandemic, in Texas. I have complicated feelings about her (mostly she's a near stranger I don't like very much as a person) but my mom is sad and the fact that no one can be with her is a tragedy.
:(
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 06:38:31 PM
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
You are describing a scrubber. It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.
It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.
It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2020, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 06:38:31 PM
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
You are describing a scrubber. It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.
It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.
It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.
Something like one a these?
Quote from: Bruno on April 05, 2020, 06:25:43 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2020, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 06:38:31 PM
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
You are describing a scrubber. It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.
It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.
It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.
Something like one a these?
more like this
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 04, 2020, 05:25:00 AM
I spent most of this week working on a single problem. Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated. Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.
Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.
Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever. The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.
Finding the solution is still a win... please don't tell me it was the error correction :lol:
Quote from: LuciferX on April 06, 2020, 05:02:26 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 04, 2020, 05:25:00 AM
I spent most of this week working on a single problem. Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated. Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.
Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.
Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever. The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.
Finding the solution is still a win... please don't tell me it was the error correction :lol:
It was related to error correction. In my defense, I hadn't even
heard of the fast Hadamard transform a week ago. :sad:
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 06, 2020, 02:17:44 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on April 06, 2020, 05:02:26 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 04, 2020, 05:25:00 AM
I spent most of this week working on a single problem. Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated. Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.
Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.
Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever. The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.
Finding the solution is still a win... please don't tell me it was the error correction :lol:
It was related to error correction. In my defense, I hadn't even heard of the fast Hadamard transform a week ago. :(
I had a similar thing happen with the Viterbi algorithm, my brain can't hack the maths though. :sad:
I am absolutely geeking out! I have been adding total randos on FB for over a month now both to salt my friend list and to expand my influence and connections over time. turns out one of those randos is in the same martial arts school as my old sensei and they know each other well! The hand of the Goddess is pulling some strings. The school is called Hoshin and was founded by one Doc Morris, and HE was an OG Discordian that basically applied the chaos magic principal to martial arts in a way that produced a sort of esoteric MMA. I'm fucking STOKED!!
:magick: :pax:
:pax:
do you cats have strong feelings about the tossing of links to this forum up on the zuckerweb?
I vote go for it, its one of the most linked places for stuff here anyway
I've been waiting for the green light on this for a long time...
:dream:
I mean, Sturgeon's law and all that, but sure.
Quote from: LMNO on April 06, 2020, 10:03:48 PM
I mean, Sturgeon's law and all that, but sure.
googled it. I'm going to do direct invites to hand selected friends and acquaintances to filter out as much crap as possible, but many of them will be rather mystical minded. Talent is talent and I'm not what you would call ontological-picky so much as a judge of character and a procurer of good faith effort.
I have finished my interviews. Everyone sounds extremely excited to have me, and the general vibe seems to be phrasing "this is happening, so" stuff as "in case this is happening" stuff for CYA purposes.
They work like, "here's an offer you can take from us," too, so the job is probably guaranteed, considering.
glad to hear altered!
oh awesome!! glad to hear it!
How's the home situation, still good over there?
All of the extras left except me, so it's four people in three bedrooms, as God intended. Finding time for a store run (have to do it when the old assholes aren't out in force but also while it's still open?) has been tough, so casual eating food is not a thing. But otherwise it's been smooth sailing.
My friend who got my life on a good fucking track for once hasn't been doing so hot: the shitty white girl roommates rearranged the apartment to have a fucking YOGA STUDIO in the living room, but have the idiocy to bitch that my friend should self isolate because he was on a deserted train for an hour. Also, the dishes situation got so foul that he took to hoarding clean dishes in his room for his own sanity.
He hasn't slept in a while, and tonight I'm helping him set up throttling on my router I left with him, so that he can say that it is bed time and disconnect the TV if they decide they need a movie party on a work night. Which has been three nights running.
The fucking monsters invite their friends over. In fucking Pilsen. The part of Chicago that is basically a cloud of fucking death right now. To yell at night. When they know the only person with temporarily steady employment has work in the morning.
Bright side: the terrible monster beast who moved in and started this shit show is going to be out just in time for me to move back in. They'll need me to, too, because rent will need paying and they won't be able to manage it without my help.
See, one is doing WFH for a nonprofit that does work that absolutely needs physical presence so she is doomed to being laid off, the other works for an event ticket resale company so he's out of work inevitably too.
I, on the other hand, can pay everyone's rent, utilities and food and still have money to stash away or use to help support others, once I get my health and sanity shit together. So. They need me. And White Girl is going to just have to deal with the awkwardness.
I might be a bad person for enjoying the irony that the one who was so willing to toss me out on the street will very probably be relying on me to not be headed that way herself, but I do not care.
So I've gone and set up a nice 100 participant hosting situation on Zoom that I call Joe's Club House. If any of you want to chill and I'm not using the room for a private gathering PM me for the room access number. I can pretty much just leave my feed up so that the room can stay open for 24 hrs at a time or even designate a host if I'm AFK for an extended period. Zoom is not all that secure and at least as bad as FB about selling personal info, but it's a public space to gather. As I begin to do more advanced gatherings I will probably sell tickets, require a small fee, or collect club dues to provide a small income, offset costs, and expand operations. I'm thinking about setting up virtual markets, dojos, places to drink and party, concerts, gaming rooms, and all manner of other things to get people back together.
Yay Altered!!!
If I never install drywall and mud it again, I will die happy. My shoulders and back are fucked up enough as it is.
So I did not get the job. There's another position possibly, but I hate that my luck seems to go this way. Repeatedly. Everything is fine, perfect even, and then outside forces conspire.
nooooooooooooooooooooooo
ahhhhhh shit altered!!! It sounded so sure -- I'm really sorry to hear that. fuuuuck.
Fuck altered I'm sorry to hear that. :| I know exactly the feeling that you get when everything seems to be in motion only to find it going down the drain. Keep on trying is the only thing I can encourage you with. Hang in there.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 06, 2020, 09:34:34 PM
do you cats have strong feelings about the tossing of links to this forum up on the zuckerweb?
I've been directly linking to this board for 7 years straight.
John Prine died.
There goes the last of my bourbon.
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
I'd be interested, for sure.
Quote from: altered on April 08, 2020, 11:40:52 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
I'd be interested, for sure.
absolutely
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:52:53 PM
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.
Psst: https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/board,4.0.html
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 08, 2020, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:52:53 PM
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.
Psst: https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/board,4.0.html
Thank you! I knew it was there but the search didn't turn up a specific board and I wasn't seeing it searching manually.
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
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Quote from: Cramulus on April 09, 2020, 01:37:03 AM
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
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Yoinksec thanks you for your tacit cooperation.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 09, 2020, 01:37:03 AM
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
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lmao, good (I'm assuming that's not sarcastic)!
FB is being exceptionally special right now.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 03:32:49 AM
FB is being exceptionally special right now.
You got a new account up?
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 03:38:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 03:32:49 AM
FB is being exceptionally special right now.
You got a new account up?
No, I can still see everything, I just can't post.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 06:32:28 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 03:38:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 03:32:49 AM
FB is being exceptionally special right now.
You got a new account up?
No, I can still see everything, I just can't post.
... That's diabolically clever. they keep you hooked even as they punish you for no doing as you're told. Might as well be a shady, 1980s cocaine pusher. Have you considered setting up a fresh sock? The only redeeming thing about FB is its ability to reach a mass audience, and i very much think that you deserve a mass audience. I also believe that that mass audience deserves what it gets! :evil:
Are the PD video chats still going on? I would love to join.
I have a Zoom room running right now. PM me and I'll pass the code and PW for the day along
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
momentatily
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
momentatily
also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
momentatily
also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.
I cannot accept group invitations. If it requires me to click, I can't do it.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
momentatily
also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.
I cannot accept group invitations. If it requires me to click, I can't do it.
Doesn't matter. I can't send it. FB is stepping on my balls about preventing me as a potential spammer and straight up refuses to process my appeal to their systems. :evilmad:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:22:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 PM
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
TWJ, send me the info? I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
momentatily
also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.
I cannot accept group invitations. If it requires me to click, I can't do it.
Doesn't matter. I can't send it. FB is stepping on my balls about preventing me as a potential spammer and straight up refuses to process my appeal to their systems. :evilmad:
That means the bots are screwy again, and nobody's in the office.
PM me the details, TWJ, I'll show up at some point.
I have figured out how to use youtube and the share audio feature to pipe in music and sing Karaoke through the Zoom room!!
Achievement unlocked: Karaoke Ascension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeIyy2ipps
Quote from: altered on April 09, 2020, 07:59:29 PM
PM me the details, TWJ, I'll show up at some point.
done!
Important missive from the Book of Faces for one Messere Howl:
(https://i.imgur.com/PjHnKP8.png)
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2020, 11:05:41 PM
Important missive from the Book of Faces for one Messere Howl:
(https://i.imgur.com/PjHnKP8.png)
Saw that. :lulz:
Besides, that's all backwards.
Gonna be AFK in the group room for a bit, but back soon. I'm leaving the video feed up to prevent room closure. If I'm not in my seat on the vid I will be soon.
Password bounced.
After that little exercise in frustration, I am not joining a group that has a password. Period, stop, the end.
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 12:08:39 AM
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out
You don't need to have a password. This is in fact the first zoom I've seen where I needed to enter one.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 12:10:27 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 12:08:39 AM
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out
You don't need to have a password. This is in fact the first zoom I've seen where I needed to enter one.
I'll see if I have a thing in my settings. I am still new to this.
Me when people try and join my (nonexistent) Zoom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeZTeWNLz0).
Your semi-annual reminder:
Eldora existed.
:argh!: :lulz: :) :sad: :eek: 8) :cry: :oops: :evil: :x :lol: :roll: :p :| :wink: :evilmad: :fnord: :fap: :kingmeh: :horrormirth: :aaa: :?
From the chat with TWJ
"Eating a brat at the Mars Cheese Castle in Kenosha is like reading an Albert Camus novel."
- Howl
Furthermore the Shriner mafia has arrived.
So I was born when rotary phones were a thing, and I am talking to TWJ on a video phone while we use our pocket supercomputers to look up episodes from science fiction stories that we have largely already eclipsed from a technological point of view.
This universe is defective. :lol:
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2020, 08:35:21 PM
I am absolutely geeking out! I have been adding total randos on FB for over a month now both to salt my friend list and to expand my influence and connections over time. turns out one of those randos is in the same martial arts school as my old sensei and they know each other well! The hand of the Goddess is pulling some strings. The school is called Hoshin and was founded by one Doc Morris, and HE was an OG Discordian that basically applied the chaos magic principal to martial arts in a way that produced a sort of esoteric MMA. I'm fucking STOKED!!
:magick: :pax:
okay this sounds fascinating. Can you send me some links?
Quote from: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 PM
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
oh heck yea, this sounds awesome
"I only have one person in my head but he's an ASSHOLE."
On debate politics dot com:
"None of you people understand the genius of Victor Davis Hanson."
This was said by someone with a totally straight face.
:lulz:
If he was so smart, how did a fictional person burn down his vineyard?
Quote from: Cain on April 10, 2020, 02:50:30 AM
:lulz:
If he was so smart, how did a fictional person burn down his vineyard?
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:34:40 AM
On debate politics dot com:
"None of you people understand the genius of Victor Davis Hanson."
This was said by someone with a totally straight face.
:eek: :horrormirth:
While you've all being "having fun" and "talking to other" and "being social" I have been pursuing far more worthy pursuits. Namely, conquering Cyrodiil.
Yes, all of it. (https://i.imgur.com/WV0LRzt.png) This is apparently good enough to catapult me to being 193rd in line to being Emperor (or in the case of this character, Empress).
193? What do you need to do to become the successor then? Presumably 192 radiant dark brotherhood quests.
:lulz: The thought occured, especially since this character is a member of the DB. I just gotta have more points than anyone else. Oh and my alliance has to control the ring of forts around the Imperial City.
It'll never happen on this server, but I could probably do it on another one with a little time and effort.
Well that was amazing right up until I tried to share my screen and managed to crash the room program, my browser, and freeze up my computer in stark terror for about five minutes.
I usually close around midnight anyway, but I wish I had not tried to fly so close to the sun. I gotta crash myself. I will reopen tomorrow morning between 8 and 9 central time. Later spags!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:16:09 AM
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.
Consider for a moment, war movies.
Quote from: altered on April 10, 2020, 06:08:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:16:09 AM
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.
Consider for a moment, war movies.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: and on that note...GOOOODnight everybody!
Here's your badge. It's not theft when the Government does it. It's immanent domain. Welcome to Yoinksec. There's no money in it and if you get caught the government will claim that you never worked for them, but FREEDOM is it's own reward.
Things I may have said on FB.
room crashed. back up shortly
Bailed on the room. I have had a craptastic day, and I got talked over for about a minute, each time I tried to say what my troll idea was. I am not up to that shit right now. Maybe later.
Fuckin' rage demons are hopping today.
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 01:39:09 AM
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.
It's cool. Don't take it as a slam from me, I am just not fit for human company right now.
My apologies too. I've been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.
If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, can't wait to get to working on the fucker.
Quote from: altered on April 11, 2020, 03:33:44 AM
My apologies too. I've been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.
If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, can't wait to get to working on the fucker.
Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 06:34:34 AM
Quote from: altered on April 11, 2020, 03:33:44 AM
My apologies too. I've been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.
If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, can't wait to get to working on the fucker.
Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?
What kind of being him are we talking? Variants or 100%? Variants probably lasts longer, 100% maximizes butthurt.
Your troll, your rules, I just want to know what they are.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 01:43:53 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 01:39:09 AM
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.
It's cool. Don't take it as a slam from me, I am just not fit for human company right now.
As a guy that has occasional, and once VERY common, rage demons myself I can appreciate that you at least disengage rather than get abusive. It was abrupt and confusing. I at first thought you had gotten upset at the noncompliant software, but I realized from your voice that you were too UPSET for that and realized that we had been essentially talking over and past you to some degree. I know you well enough to know that THAT and belittlement from a peer or friend SET YOU OFF. I think that there is probably a need for some adjustment to social ettiquette necessary in using such virtual spaces. with just three voices on a line at the same time things can descend into chaos signal wise VERY quickly.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 06:34:34 AM
Quote from: altered on April 11, 2020, 03:33:44 AM
My apologies too. I've been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.
If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, can't wait to get to working on the fucker.
Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?
I must bow out in that I have too many irons in the fire already, but that is a brilliant way to attack his identity complex.
:notnice:
room is open for the day.
I think I found Cramulus' developmentally challenged 2nd cousin on a "luciferian" FB group. Presented without context as an OP.
Chaos theory explained.
Im obsessed with it for a long time.
Still am. Think we live indife of fractals.
To emphasize how huge this was to me, when I found the fibonacci sequence InSIDE this fractal, I didnt sleep for a week
I never thought trolling a bunch of self proclaimed "Luciferians" could bring such joy!
I posted this and have no regrets. It's actually brought some of the smart(ish) people out of hiding.
QuoteSeems a mod is complaining about being complained TO about lack of debate, satanist wankery, and lack of meaningful engagement in the group. Allow me to post therefore a strong and contentious opinion to remedy that a bit. The reason for this is that "Lucifer" is in fact himself a pretentious, disengaged, self absorbed wanker that couldn't fight his way out of the wet paper bag he got stuffed into after his failed "rebellion", much less LEAD anyone human or otherwise to REAL freedom. His obsessive focus on his rather severe Daddy issues prevents him from doing anything that does not feed into the narcissism that inevitably consumes a fallen seraph. And so by the law of attraction the minds that tend to cling to him in fauning adulation likewise mirror his flaws. I'm pretty sure he secretly HATES this and so remains in a position where he is king of a kingdom that he can barely tolerate because deep, deep down he KNOWS this to be the truth, but must remain outwardly a leadership figure or his "comrades" will smell weakness and turn on him.
DISCUSS!!! Or are you too perhaps timid to engage in SERIOUS self reflection?
They haven't nuked me yet... suckers.
:notnice:
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3. It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery. It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.
It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 12:48:19 AM
I never thought trolling a bunch of self proclaimed "Luciferians" could bring such joy!
I posted this and have no regrets. It's actually brought some of the smart(ish) people out of hiding.
QuoteSeems a mod is complaining about being complained TO about lack of debate, satanist wankery, and lack of meaningful engagement in the group. Allow me to post therefore a strong and contentious opinion to remedy that a bit. The reason for this is that "Lucifer" is in fact himself a pretentious, disengaged, self absorbed wanker that couldn't fight his way out of the wet paper bag he got stuffed into after his failed "rebellion", much less LEAD anyone human or otherwise to REAL freedom. His obsessive focus on his rather severe Daddy issues prevents him from doing anything that does not feed into the narcissism that inevitably consumes a fallen seraph. And so by the law of attraction the minds that tend to cling to him in fauning adulation likewise mirror his flaws. I'm pretty sure he secretly HATES this and so remains in a position where he is king of a kingdom that he can barely tolerate because deep, deep down he KNOWS this to be the truth, but must remain outwardly a leadership figure or his "comrades" will smell weakness and turn on him.
DISCUSS!!! Or are you too perhaps timid to engage in SERIOUS self reflection?
They haven't nuked me yet... suckers.
:notnice:
:lulz:
As good as satanists are for trolling christians, reading bible upside down is still essentially reading a bible.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 06:34:34 AM
Quote from: altered on April 11, 2020, 03:33:44 AM
My apologies too. I've been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.
If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, can't wait to get to working on the fucker.
Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?
I have changed my mind Dok. If we do this we can use my zoom space as a command center of sorts, and It's your show. We just posse up, lock the meeting perhaps, and ride out. Trolling "luciferians" is fun, but shooting fish in a barrel. I can't dedicate a LOT of time, but I definitely CAN dedicate some if we schedule and coordinate right. I REALLY wanted the druid thing to happen and it fizzled. This is less to my taste, but it's doing The Lord's Work politically. I want to make it go.
Just checked up on the Luciferian thread. Gutless cowards had THE NERVE to nuke the thread, but not the spine to ban me. Fuck them. waste of time entirely.
QuoteNext year these kids are getting Easter eggs filled with bees.
One of my most enlightened friends that I wish I could bring in here, but he's got kids and a life and shit.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 04:08:13 AM
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3. It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery. It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.
It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.
I didnt like it, the plot was from mass effect, the federation had become bush era politics, the world looked like discount store blade runner, and I thought every scene, everything the show thought was ghe important plot point to bring to the surface was boring.
I dont like discovery but I prefer discovery to Picard. It at least feels like exploration
Quote from: Faust on April 13, 2020, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 04:08:13 AM
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3. It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery. It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.
It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.
I didnt like it, the plot was from mass effect, the federation had become bush era politics, the world looked like discount store blade runner, and I thought every scene, everything the show thought was ghe important plot point to bring to the surface was boring.
I dont like discovery but I prefer discovery to Picard. It at least feels like exploration
I've only seen the first episode of Picard and from the feedback I'm hearing don't think I would like it much, but it was nice and seemed to be going for a heavy intrigue story. Howl explicitly recommended Discovery to me and I'm even considering giving CBS real money to do so because apparently Netflix is showing it everywhere BUT the US for some strange reason.
If you don't know the Mass Effect storyline I would say give it a go.
Otherwise, I would recommend HBO's The Outsider. It's a Stephen King adaptation, so you know it's not going to be terrible, and the cast are all pretty good. It is some pretty dark and horrific content matter though, of course.
My friend.. my.. my Music Theory Professor friend is more dangerous than I ever beliieved. The things he did to me... I don't know if the link still works, but it was like a nightmare fun-house that I couldn't get out of. I had to close the tab. It was the only way.
http://3.18.112.125:8080/timbre/yocco1/experiment
AT LAST, not only are we mostly done painting (after finishing the fucking drywall), the cabinets are being installed! We haven't had a kitchen since literally November and the end of this bullshit is in sight.
Today I found out that I have an aunt, 4 cousins, and 9 second cousins I never knew about.
My grandfather got up to monkey business in England during the second world war, and there were results, which we found out from his declassified records. I just got an email back from one of my "new" cousins, and we're going to do a mass skype thing to welcome them all into the Howl family.
Life is weird, but can sometimes have it's nice moments.
THAT is pretty cool. I knida like the sound of s "Clan Howl" and am now imagining a LOT of Scottish folk sort of "slav squatting" in kilts... I kind got what I deserved there, But It's neat that your kin are getting to know ya!
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.
I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant. He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.
His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman. I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.
(Note: This is not the terrible old man. This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
THAT is pretty cool. I knida like the sound of s "Clan Howl" and am now imagining a LOT of Scottish folk sort of "slav squatting" in kilts... I kind got what I deserved there, But It's neat that your kin are getting to know ya!
Our family has never been big on formalities like being married, running around, etc. I mean, granddad should be ashamed of cheating on his wife, but that doesn't reflect on Kathleen and her offspring. She's family now.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 08:31:38 PM
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.
I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant. He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.
His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman. I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.
(Note: This is not the terrible old man. This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)
THAT IS AMAZING!!
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
Quote from: Cain on April 13, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum
Quote from: Cain on April 13, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape.
What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 13, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape.
What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.
I would tend to agree, as it happens. I'm against the death penalty on general principle (it's hard to take back what you did), but doing people in in quiet corners doesn't send the right message.
The right message of course being "if this ever happens again, someone will come after you. They won't stop, they will expose you to the world, and then you will go to prison for the rest of your life. Or you will hang. Not for being an "enemy" who lost a war, not for your skin colour or religion. But because of your own actions, or inactions, for your complete and utter moral failings."
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 13, 2020, 08:46:49 PM
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape.
What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.
I never thought of it that way, but yeah. I have to agree. Once you let it get personal, they kinda "win" just a little bit in death as a martyr of sorts rather than as a duly processed criminal. Fuck. I kinda have to rethink some things now.
Congrats on the expanded family, Roger, and the cool Grandpa.
Also, shit should be calming down wrt home renovation eating up my entire fucking day soon (hence why I haven't done any Zoom things) but perhaps would anybody be interested in watch parties via Zoom or Discord?
Quote from: Juana on April 14, 2020, 03:39:46 AM
Congrats on the expanded family, Roger, and the cool Grandpa.
There's always room in the Howl.
QuoteAlso, shit should be calming down wrt home renovation eating up my entire fucking day soon (hence why I haven't done any Zoom things) but perhaps would anybody be interested in watch parties via Zoom or Discord?
Things have been balls to the wall at work, which is why I haven't been on Zoom, either.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 08:31:38 PM
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.
I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant. He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.
His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman. I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.
(Note: This is not the terrible old man. This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)
War isn't pleasant. Especially that goddamn war.
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.
I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.
The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.
Congrats Suu
Congratulations, Suu. I got you something.
hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2020, 04:16:03 AM
Congratulations, Suu. I got you something.
hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/
Oh hale yes, I lurve these types.
QuoteAnd when they start starving they will remember you... They will remember you were buying food... They will come begging borrowing and stealing because you talked. Loose lips sink ships. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
You cannot change what has been done, but you can shore up your opsec by not revealing what you have to anyone else and hopefully you have a secondary location for some of your supplies.
Oh man. OH MAN.
Quote"Spreading the ideas of freedom loving people on matters regarding high finance, politics, constructionist Constitution, and mental masturbation of all types"
:lulz:
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2020, 04:32:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2020, 04:16:03 AM
Congratulations, Suu. I got you something.
hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/
Oh hale yes, I lurve these types.
QuoteAnd when they start starving they will remember you... They will remember you were buying food... They will come begging borrowing and stealing because you talked. Loose lips sink ships. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
You cannot change what has been done, but you can shore up your opsec by not revealing what you have to anyone else and hopefully you have a secondary location for some of your supplies.
Oh man. OH MAN.
That place has aged well. :lulz:
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2020, 01:23:39 AM
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.
I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.
The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.
GO SUUUU!! That's such a good feeling.
When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.
Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2020, 01:23:39 AM
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.
I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.
The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.
GO SUUUU!! That's such a good feeling.
When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.
Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.
:lulz: :lulz: I could be wrong, but I think that they still can't close the account until you actually cash it and complete the transaction.
Grats!
Quote from: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 01:25:06 PM
When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.
Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.
:mittens:
Just posted this to FB. Gonna share it to several groups too.
This is one of my poems. T.W. Joseph is my pen name. Feel free to toss it around. They're FREE, and you effectively get to keep the one you toss! Just google "ERIS" if you don't know the name. It may not all make sense at first, but just keep learning about Her and a lot of things about the world begin to click into place
Just for the record I want to say that I consider limericks to be the coronaviruses of the poetry world, and myself a memetic, hermetic, heretic, terrorist of sorts that has figured out that you can accomplish some TERRIBLE things and never once break any enforceable laws in a "free society". I love my work.
My grandmother's funeral mass was livestreamed on Zoom today.
Funerals are weird.
Funerals during a pandemic are extra weird.
Funerals during a pandemic on Zoom are surreal.
Sorry to hear about your grandmother.
Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it
Thanks, guys.
Sorry about your grandmother, Juana.
Is it wrong to suggest that Carnival Cruise Liners be used as practice drones for our submarines?
People are still trying to sign up for these fucking things.
Hey, with ticket prices going through the floor due to fuck all demand, I suspect a few operators will have to get pretty creative to avoid going bust.
Remember how the UK ran prison hulks before sending folk to Australia? I can see the US running a similar deal. Off to the sanatorium ships with you. And half of you will totally support it.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 16, 2020, 01:55:37 PM
Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it
This. Sincere condolences, both on the loss and funeral experience. Added strange on top of a bad time is less than pleasant.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 04:17:21 AM
Sorry about your grandmother, Juana.
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Quote from: Cramulus on April 16, 2020, 01:55:37 PM
Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it
This. Sincere condolences, both on the loss and funeral experience. Added strange on top of a bad time is less than pleasant.
Thanks, friends.
I think in the future, the calendar will skip from 2019 to 2021. We'll all be like, "2020?" *slides on sunglasses* "I don't know her."
Quote from: Juana on April 18, 2020, 12:38:52 AM
I think in the future, the calendar will skip from 2019 to 2021. We'll all be like, "2020?" *slides on sunglasses* "I don't know her."
8) New phone, who dis? 2020? I ain't heard of her. *click*
ZOOM POETRY JAM WITH Q.G.!!!!
:regret: :banana: :sexybeast: :banana: :sexybeast: :banana: :monkeydance:
Are we on?
Well, shit.
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 02:18:11 AM
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?
I want into the poetry thing!
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Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 02:18:11 AM
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?
I want into the poetry thing!
We are wrapping up soon, but I have it straight from Q.G.to invite you both for next friday
ok my room is back up again till midnight central time
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on April 18, 2020, 03:47:22 PM
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.
1. Is she aware of your awful driving?
2. Cramulan promises are worth the latex they are formed from.
Um, way to welcome me back hours early and dunk on my joke. Sons of bitches.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2020, 01:12:08 AM
Um, way to welcome me back hours early and dunk on my joke. Sons of bitches.
:lulz:
:regret:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on April 18, 2020, 03:47:22 PM
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.
I promised you dildoes
but remember that you must always phrase your wish very carefully
welcome back you piece of shit
The thing I hate most about this is that I can't check up on my kids. There's a couple I'm worried about for various reasons.
To the surprise of utterly no one, I have helium handed my dumb ass into a lead organizer position in the local covid mutual aid group.
Poetry night is Friday 8pm Eastern, ping me for a link.
I am not surprised :lulz:
I would love to know more about mutual aid groups and what they're up to right now.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 21, 2020, 10:15:31 PM
I am not surprised :lulz:
I would love to know more about mutual aid groups and what they're up to right now.
For the most part groups are either working with or being run by the usual DSA and anarchist suspects, with a good mix of other Antifa and leftists. Generally the focus has been on getting grocery delivery going for people isolated due to vulnerability or illness (the former who can't risk getting sick, and the latter who can't risk getting others sick), and connecting folks with formal assistance. Some places are more vocal in their support for rent strikes than others. I'm in a weird group that is kinda working with the city, but only in the sense that we are telling them what's what and they're grateful there's an adult in the room. Some groups are letting the city call all the shots, and others can't imagine cooperating with anyone. We're also working to connect wealthier communities with ones in greater need to redistribute resources.
I would take a look on google and facebook for your local area. There may also be posters going up.
That's more or less what mine is up to, as well as checking in on people.
I've been away from the forum for stress reasons. Sometimes I need to forget the world is burning. Here, it's as easy as not opening the wrong websites — unfortunately, including this one. Sorry.
It's just that some days I can choose to either avoid the news, have a mental breakdown, or become a sociopath. Flipping the empathy switch off is something easy to do for me, and hard to undo: I hope you understand.
For those of you having stress, QGP has my number and I trust almost all of you to use it well if you need it, just PM me. I can't do a goddamn thing but try my best to hold up folks who have done a fuck ton for me. I'm not excellent at that. I'm not great at a lot of things. But if putting the goddamn effort in and having way too much empathy helps, know that I'm here.
I'm also great at geeking out about random shit extremely intensely, and being an interested listener for the same. So if you just want some low grade escapism, I'm good for that too.
Quote from: altered on April 22, 2020, 09:29:34 AM
I've been away from the forum for stress reasons. Sometimes I need to forget the world is burning. Here, it's as easy as not opening the wrong websites — unfortunately, including this one. Sorry.
It's just that some days I can choose to either avoid the news, have a mental breakdown, or become a sociopath. Flipping the empathy switch off is something easy to do for me, and hard to undo: I hope you understand.
For those of you having stress, QGP has my number and I trust almost all of you to use it well if you need it, just PM me. I can't do a goddamn thing but try my best to hold up folks who have done a fuck ton for me. I'm not excellent at that. I'm not great at a lot of things. But if putting the goddamn effort in and having way too much empathy helps, know that I'm here.
I'm also great at geeking out about random shit extremely intensely, and being an interested listener for the same. So if you just want some low grade escapism, I'm good for that too.
For my part I very much enjoy our chats in the zoom room. I should be up most of the day after 10 central or so.
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?
Quote from: Juana on April 22, 2020, 05:24:39 PM
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?
Yeah. I shell out $16 a month or so for a 1 host 100 person room that I can keep open indefinitely and run it sort of like a club, opening and closing daily. PM me and I can give you the code if you like.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 22, 2020, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 22, 2020, 05:24:39 PM
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?
Yeah. I shell out $16 a month or so for a 1 host 100 person room that I can keep open indefinitely and run it sort of like a club, opening and closing daily. PM me and I can give you the code if you like.
Juana, this is really a lot of fun, especially on Friday.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 22, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.
CLOVE EATING CONTEST
Quote from: Cramulus on April 22, 2020, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 22, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.
CLOVE EATING CONTEST
:notfunny:
Quote from: Cramulus on April 22, 2020, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 22, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.
CLOVE EATING CONTEST
Are you trying to simulate hemophilia? Because this is how you hemorrhage.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 22, 2020, 05:54:21 PM
CLOVE EATING CONTEST
I started chewing on the clove and the nausea subsided but now my mouth is even number and it tastes like a pharmacy exhibit at a 1890's historical museum.
Y'know, "Wonder oil, for external use only."
I just now got a message from earlier in the day.
I have to find somewhere to live by May 7th.
During the fucking plague.
Hit me up if you have ideas, I'm out of fucking luck here: everyone else I know has stretched their resources to the last, and I think this is the end of the line finally.
That blows ass, altered. :|
I'm sorry that I don't have any ideas for you.
Not going to have the Zoom room open today. need a break. Will resume operation Monday morning after 10 or so A.M. central time.
Quoted without context.
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He said he drank a lot of chicken soup and smoothies... I can see how chicken soup has remedy in it, since chicken flock together, like bats.
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.
Quote from: The Johnny on April 28, 2020, 01:00:18 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.
Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble. Right from the very beginning.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 01:05:49 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 28, 2020, 01:00:18 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.
Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble. Right from the very beginning.
No like, beyond that, there was a cyclical thing about "the February mood", but the 2012 one was particularly toxic
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 01:05:49 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 28, 2020, 01:00:18 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.
Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble. Right from the very beginning.
No like, beyond that, there was a cyclical thing about "the February mood", but the 2012 one was particularly toxic
When was the Large Hadron Collider turned on? I blame that thing.
My boss used the phrase, "He just cost us $10,000 in billable stupid," and it really accurately protrayed what happened.
Tomorrow may be very strange depending on how much I can trust the state government.
I figured out why I wasn't getting unemployment. And after I fixed it, it said "next business day".
For four weeks minimum of payment.
I lost track of how many times I filled the form out, but definitely no less than four. No more than six either, but that's past the point of giving a fuck.
I might be financially okay, at least, for a little bit.
THAT'S a relief. Do you have any leads on a living situation yet?
Quote from: Cramulus on April 29, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
THAT'S a relief. Do you have any leads on a living situation yet?
Yeah, but only for an unknown length of time in Texas. Fort Worth. No one else has the space or energy to put someone up.
Ok the Zoom room is up and running. should be up until midnight central time.
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!
Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
Quote from: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:32:57 PM
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!
Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work.
We deal with weather machines that put graphics up for TV stations. In the US, at least right now, it's incredibly easy to do because the data is free* and in a format we've already deciphered to make pretty for TV. Canada also gives us nicely formatted data. Other countries, well you need someone who can look at what they have and then make some sort of automation to make it like the US data. At least it's easier than making the software use the data.
Anyway, sales says to data guy, is this good? Data guy says yes, it's all there, all good. Sales guy puts sales through sends them equipment. Trainer tries training, and they have no data. Tech finds data sources, send to machine. No data in graphics. Programmer looks at machine, sees data sees everything working, nothing wrong in software.
Data guy neglected to mention the bespoke script he'd have to make to make the data nice. Never got the work order from sales, never worked on it. All good to him meant that yes he has something to work with that he can make readable, not that it was readable out of the box.
So anyway, a lot of work was done on an assumption that something was good and no one else checked to see was good.
*if you have a NOAA port, something like $70,000
Ah, gotchu.
Quote from: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:32:57 PM
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!
Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
Weirdly, the site says the payments were issued today, but I haven't received them still. My assumption is a 48 hour hold or something, but I worry because if I don't receive them... it is impossible to reach anybody to ask about it. Like, "your hold time may be two hours or more" followed by force-disconnecting your call, so you can't hold.
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Quote from: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:32:57 PM
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!
Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work. [/quote]
That was years ago. Today we heated a stuffed bison to 101.7 F as a test.
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My boss used the phrase, "He just cost us $10,000 in billable stupid," and it really accurately protrayed what happened.
Welcome to Hamish's World.
Got an official letter from the IRS today. Thought it might be some problem with my federal returns, but no. It's MUCH worse than that. It was Donnie's letter of whatever telling me I got that stimulus. It's so LIKE him and his whole methodology. I know for a fact because I just checked today that I got no money, and yet here he is making sure he personally gets credit while I get stiffed. That is literally his ENTIRE business model.
:dream:
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I can't even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just won't be anyone there.
So I have to find an option for May 7th still.
I had the only service that didn't outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.
Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isn't giving me?
Will also accept any sort of call. I'm stuck in my head and it's a fucked up place, I need an escape.
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 02:03:16 AM
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I can't even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just won't be anyone there.
So I have to find an option for May 7th still.
I had the only service that didn't outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.
Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isn't giving me?
Will also accept any sort of call. I'm stuck in my head and it's a fucked up place, I need an escape.
Zoom room is open and you're always welcome.
Not sure I can be of any help Absolutely certain I can do nothing effective and am myself pretty fucked up inside, but I'm around.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2020, 02:24:11 AM
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 02:03:16 AM
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I can't even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just won't be anyone there.
So I have to find an option for May 7th still.
I had the only service that didn't outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.
Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isn't giving me?
Will also accept any sort of call. I'm stuck in my head and it's a fucked up place, I need an escape.
Zoom room is open and you're always welcome. Not sure I can be of any help Absolutely certain I can do nothing effective and am myself pretty fucked up inside, but I'm around.
Zoom is saying host needs to start the meeting. Can you throw me what it says the number is, just in case?
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Quote from: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:32:57 PM
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!
Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work.
That was years ago. Today we heated a stuffed bison to 101.7 F as a test.
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I am confused and intrigued as to why.
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 02:03:16 AM
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I can't even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just won't be anyone there.
So I have to find an option for May 7th still.
I had the only service that didn't outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.
Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isn't giving me?
Will also accept any sort of call. I'm stuck in my head and it's a fucked up place, I need an escape.
I am so sorry, Alt. Wish I could help more directly beyond, like, a discord call.
altered and I be chatting now.
I need to figure out when I can safely go see my parents. Jephph is now fully banned from travel until June 30th, so the fleeting chance we still had to go to the UK is gone at this point, and I need to get on all those fun refunds and reschedulings and it's giving me horrid anxiety.
Dad had to go back to work because the DoD said so, and that's okay because they're out of money. So out of money that I'm Venmoing my mom cash for food. My brother is useless, and my dad travels in addition to being physically disabled, so mom needs serious help around the house. With my sister and BIL being essential, they can't come over, but I'm not working, but also 4 hours away. Some things will have to wait until Jeff can get over there, but for the most part, I can help mom with some pretty tough shit.
Florida is starting its 4 stage program next week, similar to what CA is doing, but probably stupider. DeSantis came out SHOOK today, so I think our Surgeon General, after getting kicked out of the last meeting, took him out back to the woodshed and laid into him.
Quote from: Juana on April 30, 2020, 02:40:32 AM
I am confused and intrigued as to why.
Because that was its body temperature when alive.
And we need that for the sorting software test.
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.
The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and it's light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause it's not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
I've been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and it's hitting the same five chords in random order.
The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so I'm going inside.
To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesn't respect horror movie rules.
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.
The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and it's light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause it's not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
I've been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and it's hitting the same five chords in random order.
The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so I'm going inside.
To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesn't respect horror movie rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMcFOfouVk4
NYC transformer fire couple years ago... anything like it?
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2020, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.
"If you're cold, they're cold. Let demonic screaming UFOs inside."
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.
The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and it's light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause it's not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
I've been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and it's hitting the same five chords in random order.
The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so I'm going inside.
To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesn't respect horror movie rules.
Jesus. Anything in the local news about it?
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2020, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 30, 2020, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 AM
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.
With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.
"If you're cold, they're cold. Let demonic screaming UFOs inside."
Here ya go. is an meme! FOIA application accepted.Thanks Obama.
In order:
Not a transformer fire for sure: it was explicitly red-orange light, low to the ground, motionless and not flickering. The sound was not tinny or buzzy at all, it sounded like a choir that were hitting notes on the chromatic scale, or trying to sing The Rite of Spring or Prometheus or some other freaky orchestral piece full of synthetic chords. And the sound did move. It was my first thought, though!
Not a cold evening, sorry to say.
No such thing as local news here: this is the area where the exurbs become the rural. I would be the one to report it, probably, given it was on the property of the folks hosting me and it's unlikely anyone else noticed a weird sound and light at 1AM.
TWJ, I approve.
And it may not have been cold for us, but for aliens? Who can say.
That is some high weirdness.
Quote from: Juana on April 30, 2020, 05:24:24 PM
That is some high weirdness.
Definitely. I guess it's not a UFO since it sounds like it wasn't flying, but it's something.
Update on weird sounds/lights:
They're back. Kind of.
Instead of one big orange light kinda far away, there's ten or so white lights randomly strewn around in a copse of apple trees real close by. Like, 30 yards or so. Again: steady lighting, no movement. Reminds me that I didn't mention: the orange light didn't illuminate anything around it, and neither do these.
The sounds are pausing this time, intermittently going in and out of audibility. They aren't moving this time either, and seem to be coming from the other side of the lights.
If I was making wild ass guesses, I'd say it sounds like if two birds that learned to mimic ambient music for horror games and have no other way of talking were chatting back and forth, but that overlooks the bizarre ... "verisimilitude?" of it all. Like, it sounds less like something playing back a horror soundtrack and more like the actual ambience in a nightmarish otherworld. Loud enough to be echoing from nearby houses, too quiet to fucking record.
I still have not dared to investigate.
I'm also not particularly creeped out or threatened by these things, they're just high strangeness of a particularly odd sort. General vibe is something along the lines of UFO meets haunted moor now.
I have formed a theory: low budget horror film recording. Bunch of dumb teenagers trying to be spooky in the woods at night to shoot a movie.
Alternatively, an alien ship crashed out in the woods the other day and this is their ghosts haunting the place.
Quote from: altered on May 01, 2020, 02:44:21 AM
Update on weird sounds/lights:
They're back. Kind of.
Instead of one big orange light kinda far away, there's ten or so white lights randomly strewn around in a copse of apple trees real close by. Like, 30 yards or so. Again: steady lighting, no movement. Reminds me that I didn't mention: the orange light didn't illuminate anything around it, and neither do these.
The sounds are pausing this time, intermittently going in and out of audibility. They aren't moving this time either, and seem to be coming from the other side of the lights.
If I was making wild ass guesses, I'd say it sounds like if two birds that learned to mimic ambient music for horror games and have no other way of talking were chatting back and forth, but that overlooks the bizarre ... "verisimilitude?" of it all. Like, it sounds less like something playing back a horror soundtrack and more like the actual ambience in a nightmarish otherworld. Loud enough to be echoing from nearby houses, too quiet to fucking record.
I still have not dared to investigate.
I'm also not particularly creeped out or threatened by these things, they're just high strangeness of a particularly odd sort. General vibe is something along the lines of UFO meets haunted moor now.
I have formed a theory: low budget horror film recording. Bunch of dumb teenagers trying to be spooky in the woods at night to shoot a movie.
Alternatively, an alien ship crashed out in the woods the other day and this is their ghosts haunting the place.
Demonic parrots and giant fireflies.
And btw, it could very well be the making of a creepypasta, it actually gave me some chills down my spine.
I'm more amused. I tend to be paranoid of weird ass shit, but this doesn't give me any bad vibes or anything, it's just like... what's going on here? I posted about it in OB because it's a real thing happening and I figured maybe someone has heard of similar shit (singing bioluminescent algae or something?) and can inform me.
I really, really wish it was loud enough to record clearly. It gets buried in the crickets and frogs when I try to record it, despite being obviously neither of those things.
So I managed to catch it on a recording! It's really hard to hear, use your headphones and forgive my voice, but it's audible. It sounds half as loud as it actually is, just about, but still... audible.
I had two failed recordings due to Bluetooth headphones, so I didn't catch myself explaining:
The white lights are gone. And the orange one is back, closer, much dimmer, in a different area.
Also the sound is coming from a different direction altogether now. Before, it was coming from the same direction as the lights: southeast. Now it's roughly northeast.
Anyway, that sound, and some voiceover and random ass goddamn geese (after midnight???): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669694031839887364/705659514220838922/New_Recording.m4a
You'll hear the pitch changes and changes in volume, but it's stuck doing the vibrato thing during recording. Normally it's a smooth whistling sound. Tonight it's mostly been all vibrato sounding, with some smoother parts fading in and out. Sadly, I did not catch it pausing, though you can mistake a fade out as it moves further away (and stops being picked up) for a brief pause.
I hear geese at night once in a while but that other faint noise is unsettling.
I can't make out anything except your voice and the goose, but let me play around with it a bit in some other programs and I'll get back to you on that.
Some sort of underground drill or gear? There's this set of phenomena that people call "the Hum" and in one occassion it was coming from some industrial production facility, but that could be heard from very far away.
Is there a construction site nearby or industrial complex?
I'm listening to this right now, and I want to submit the following remarks:
1. Even though I'm not hearing it, this is all very creepy
2. I'm really enjoying this deep dive into 'a weird sound'. I'm exicted that I might hear a strange sound we can't explain.
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
:dok:
I can (barely) make out a high-pitched whistle, and am wondering if maybe something is being vented under pressure. The volume/pitch could be connected to the rate at which the venting is happening.
If there's a petrochemical facility nearby, maybe they're flaring natural gas, which could account for both light and sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1VyICXpW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4BGvqjOqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4CiLzzx3s
The flare would be too yellow, it would flicker and move, and it would be further off of the ground. Good thought, nonetheless!
There isn't anything out here though. It's an hour to Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo from here, it exists as a place to live outside of the city that is further than the suburbs. It's an hour walk to anywhere.
It's either natural or amateur. This isn't the work of a company: the largest place in the area is a "logging" company that actually is just a hardware store that resells pre-cut lumber. That's only barely larger than the "industrial paint warehouse" (a garage that specializes in shitty camo paint jobs for cars), and the "party store" (a bodega, down to the cat, transplanted to the Michigan wilderness).
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again. :cry:
OK, having tried it on a number of different programs and things and listen to you say "that fucking goose" far too many times (you have a very soothing voice, btw) I think I'm hearing what you're talking about. I can't do anything fancy, like isolate it and bump it up, I'm not that technically adept when it comes to sound files or anything.
I also have no idea what it could be. I wouldn't mind a video of these lights, if you could get one.
A video would be pointless, because at these distances the strange part is that there simply isn't anything where the lights are, and thus should not be any lights at all.
They look like they're electric lights, nothing special. The orange one at its brightest wasn't even particularly bright, you could convince me a street lamp fell over if I didn't know what was off in that direction. None of them move visibly, none of them flicker, they're just lights.
The lack of illumination of the surroundings is more likely to be the illumination being comparatively dim, like when you stick a flashlight in a sock: it's still quite bright to look directly at but that light doesn't reflect nicely off of anything around it. Combined with distance, where glare from looking at a distant light washes out everything around that light, I can't see a point in taking video. But I'll try to get some.
Given this is turning into a short project before I have to leave the area (I have 6 days left and no leads) it might be worth splitting these posts out of OB. Up to the mods of course.
Here's a spectrogram. The intermittent horizontal lines are altered speaking. The vertical line at around 0.07 is likely the unknown sound.
Matlab isn't the best tool for this, and I'm running out of lunch break, but I can take a whack at isolating the sound after work, if no-one beats me to it.
It would be the frequency band just before the 0.1 on the X axis. You can see two large areas with me silent for most of them and saying something in the middle. That band cuts out just before the first one of the pauses (on the bottom, where it moved away and stopped being picked up, "Not having much luck there") and is very strong during the second ("It's very loud right now").
Edit: re read your post and you already said that.
In my defense, low blood sugar.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on May 01, 2020, 07:44:26 PM
Here's a spectrogram. The intermittent horizontal lines are altered speaking. The vertical line at around 0.07 is likely the unknown sound.
Matlab isn't the best tool for this, and I'm running out of lunch break, but I can take a whack at isolating the sound after work, if no-one beats me to it.
interesting. I ran an analysis of the spectrogram using http://fotoforensics.com/, here it is.
going deeper...
I used https://compress-or-die.com/ to separate that image into different channels. Buckle your fuckin seat belts, the 'compression view' came out looking like this.
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...
:drama1:
This shit happening on PD is better than the X-files.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...
Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.
*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*
Quote from: LuciferX on May 01, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...
Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.
*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*
Hint: It's a popular topical image used throughout human history
Quote from: LuciferX on May 01, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...
Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.
*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*
I can see *something* but cannot decide what it is. Knowing Cram and this forum it's likely goatse. Btw, I think this thread should be split, and I FUCKING LOVE IT.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:14:22 PM
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...
Is that the new PDX carpet?
Hang on, you're right, we need to depolarize the voxels so that each channel shows the correct gains.
Let me run the data again...
Well, there ya go. :lol:
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 09:31:44 PM
Hang on, you're right, we need to depolarize the voxels so that each channel shows the correct gains.
Let me run the data again...
If you really want to make the carpet a 70's look, id much prefer avocado-puke than shit-asbestos pls.
Quote from: Hoopla! on May 01, 2020, 09:39:08 PM
Well, there ya go. :lol:
right? when I interpolated the Gruber effect, the flange output was obvious---we're dealing with a class three, right here
Nailed it; mystery's solved, lets get drinks.
Hang on I... I just need a few more minutes with Cram's data. Wouldn't want to overlook anything.
:rbtg: :fap: :fap:
Is that first one loss? Bc if it is, I hate you.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
So we had one of those "this is not a drill" things show up outside. I took a picture, and immediately a surfeit of skunks showed up and stopped smack middle of the road. No need to worry, this is all entirely unrelated.
I ran the signal through a bandpass filter, 1500-1900 Hz.
As an ostensible rationalist, I should note that filtering the signal necessarily imparts a certain amount of structure to it that wasn't there before (in a sense, adding information).
But, there's definitely something there. It sounds like a pressure cooker full of banshees.
I received the answers to this weirdness tonight. They are incredibly mundane, to the point of disappointment if you had any investment in the weirdness. I'll leave it up to everyone else if they want to ride this train into crazy town or to have it just derail right now.
Quote from: altered on May 02, 2020, 03:34:23 AM
I received the answers to this weirdness tonight. They are incredibly mundane, to the point of disappointment if you had any investment in the weirdness. I'll leave it up to everyone else if they want to ride this train into crazy town or to have it just derail right now.
I'm a pessimist. I am vindicated by disappointment.
One vote for revealing the truth.
I'm just going to baselessly, but fervently, accuse you of covering up the real Truth to protect us all from the horrible implications and irreversible consequences, but let's hear your "theory" altered.
Quote from: altered on May 02, 2020, 03:34:23 AM
I received the answers to this weirdness tonight. They are incredibly mundane, to the point of disappointment if you had any investment in the weirdness. I'll leave it up to everyone else if they want to ride this train into crazy town or to have it just derail right now.
It had something to do with the feds recharging the batteries on the geese, right?
Life is short, hard and ultimately disappointing. Like a bodybuilding elf. Lay it on me.
It's just 5G.
The sights and sounds you're experiencing are just symptoms of oxygen deprivation.
Altered, we've already figured out that the Greys are paying you 200k/year to keep your mouth shut, so go ahead and hit us with whatever lie they are making you say
Quote from: Cain on May 02, 2020, 10:15:16 AM
Life is short, hard and ultimately disappointing. Like a bodybuilding elf.
Hey! Uncle Joey may have had his faults, but he was the best chimney-sweep you'd ever hire.
When sober, anyway.
Well, it's unanimous then.
First: the droning, whistling sound is a particular kind of singing frog. There are apparently hundreds down at the pond, which is why the pauses are so rare, and they move around and change volume and pitch as different frogs come closer while singing.
The white lights were LED solar lamps placed by the people I am staying with just before dark the other day. Why they decided to put a bunch of lights in the trees is beyond me, I don't get it, but they did it and they seemed very proud.
The orange light is the only one that's even surprising: there's a guy who lives in a red tent out in the woods. He's not homeless, he's one of those "live the wilderness" sort of people, and he's out there now simply because it's warm enough. And he has a big lantern that stays in the tent with him.
Sorry.
Well there is my horror of unknowable things beyond our imagination, cruelly stolen away
I think singing frogs are terrifying.
https://youtu.be/YRWlbX92B3I
Quote from: Faust on May 02, 2020, 06:09:13 PM
Well there is my horror of unknowable things beyond our imagination, cruelly stolen away
Pshaw, simply put. We have been investigating the phenomenon for some time and have expended considerable resources in order to positively identify the events in question. The results we obtained conclude that the orange light is actually not derived from a single source but is in fact the combined effect of at least three vertically stacked electromagnetic emitters. Our working hypothesis is that the "object" is some kind of an ultra-dimensional semaphore. Seen here last night:
I still think that goose was involved.
Honking did precede the traffic light, so, checks-out.
Too fucked to even today
For whatever reason I don't do magic eyes "right," so they always end up inverted depth-wise. Which, fine for the first one but REALLY WEIRD for the second
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again. :cry:
Gimme a couple of days, I'll see what I can come up with
Ok I took the weekend to sort of lick my wounds and decompress from some very damaging bullshit. I have the Zoom room up and will be open until midnight central time.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 03, 2020, 06:17:14 AM
For whatever reason I don't do magic eyes "right," so they always end up inverted depth-wise. Which, fine for the first one but REALLY WEIRD for the second
It was like that for me too. I assumed it was Cram's fault; everything else is.
Room is up and runing. I have no shit like 70 FB notifications to go through. i made memes and seeded them before going to bed at 4 AM or so. Apparently they are having some effect.
Quote from: LMNO on May 04, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again. :cry:
Gimme a couple of days, I'll see what I can come up with
Hi, I'm back. (https://earfatigueproductions.bandcamp.com/track/that-strange-sound-for-altered)
^ reasons that I love this forum
:kiss:
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 04, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again. :cry:
Gimme a couple of days, I'll see what I can come up with
Hi, I'm back. (https://earfatigueproductions.bandcamp.com/track/that-strange-sound-for-altered)
:banana:
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 04, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Gimme a couple of days, I'll see what I can come up with
Hi, I'm back. (https://earfatigueproductions.bandcamp.com/track/that-strange-sound-for-altered)
You, sir, are an artist and a technician.
:cainftw:
Much of the credit goes to that fucking goose.
Just had the incredible pleasure of listening to that with altered in the zoom room by piping the audio in. That was GODLIKE and her reactions priceless.
LMNO and how he do:
:pope:
To be honest, I've been kind of blocked creatively for a while, made worse by this quarantine, as contrary as it sounds.
Thanks for recording that, altered. It gave me much-needed inspiration.
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
To be honest, I've been kind of blocked creatively for a while, made worse by this quarantine, as contrary as it sounds.
Thanks for recording that, altered. It gave me much-needed inspiration.
Almost all of my creativity has been channeled into work, these days.
Of course, my work is more fun than it used to be.
I am consumed by that fucking goose. Altered is pleading with me not to write of say the things i am saying. I cannot stop myself. All has been altered by altered the alterant. The aptheosis of altered and the revelation of that fucking goose was inevitable. All had a part in it, yet none can be individually blamed. It was a rube-goldberg chain of events that once set into motion by observation and record of that fucking goose were inevitable. Even now I fight to contain my sense of self and appease altered in her still understandable denial of her ascension. I will write more later, but one thing is obvious now and cannot ever be changed. That fucking goose is on the loose. Altered believes, has just now said in my very ear that I will somehow doom us all by posting what I must to save myself. I merely acknowledge the new state of play.
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
To be honest, I've been kind of blocked creatively for a while, made worse by this quarantine, as contrary as it sounds.
Thanks for recording that, altered. It gave me much-needed inspiration.
I totally get that. My creativity took a holiday once isolation started. I think there is a part of me that thinks this is it, and what's the point? Also, despite my claims of "imagination", I am finding it increasingly difficult to imagine life outside of this.
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 08:08:35 PM
Much of the credit goes to that fucking goose.
Vocal credits: "That fucking goose" feat. altered
Ooh. I'll update the Bandcamp page
Quote from: LMNO on May 05, 2020, 06:49:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 04, 2020, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 PM
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP
And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again. :cry:
Gimme a couple of days, I'll see what I can come up with
Hi, I'm back. (https://earfatigueproductions.bandcamp.com/track/that-strange-sound-for-altered)
Dude. That's awesome.
I just had to cancel my entire trip to the UK, flights, hotels, and put in an insurance claim for our non-refundable train passes.
I knew it was coming, but none of this is helping my mood, especially since my dad didn't cancel my tickets for tomorrow to Michigan. I basically came home from therapy in a decent mood and had it all destroyed in a matter of fucking seconds.
My husband is a fucking android and has no emotional response to anything. I sit here crying on the couch and he just continues conversation and tries to show me things I have no interest in, like a goddamn child. I guess it's better than being abusive like the last round. The Navy is fucking with his orders again, and he doesn't understand why I am freaking out about any of it. It keeps going from Norfolk, to Norfolk and Honolulu, to maybe San Diego again, back to Norfolk, and he has zero comprehension as to why I am egregiously out of fucks right now and would rather drown than deal with another military move, I don't care if it's his last one.
I swear, I'm going to feed him to the sarlacc pit we have opening on the side of the house. It's a sinkhole, his name is Steve, military housing won't do anything about it.
At the very least, I'm glad we're not ending back up in New England. I heard today via a friend on FB that some other so-called "friends" have an actual deadpool on me to see when I finally bite it.
I'm so fucking over everything. And my research on my current project is moving much slower than I want it to, so I just may give up.
Man, that fucking sucks Suu.
If you need a human voice, PM me. If you need to privately ditch some bile by text, PMs also open. Either way, I feel safe saying we all have your back if you need it.
Quote from: Suu on May 06, 2020, 01:40:47 AM
I just had to cancel my entire trip to the UK, flights, hotels, and put in an insurance claim for our non-refundable train passes.
I knew it was coming, but none of this is helping my mood, especially since my dad didn't cancel my tickets for tomorrow to Michigan. I basically came home from therapy in a decent mood and had it all destroyed in a matter of fucking seconds.
My husband is a fucking android and has no emotional response to anything. I sit here crying on the couch and he just continues conversation and tries to show me things I have no interest in, like a goddamn child. I guess it's better than being abusive like the last round. The Navy is fucking with his orders again, and he doesn't understand why I am freaking out about any of it. It keeps going from Norfolk, to Norfolk and Honolulu, to maybe San Diego again, back to Norfolk, and he has zero comprehension as to why I am egregiously out of fucks right now and would rather drown than deal with another military move, I don't care if it's his last one.
I swear, I'm going to feed him to the sarlacc pit we have opening on the side of the house. It's a sinkhole, his name is Steve, military housing won't do anything about it.
At the very least, I'm glad we're not ending back up in New England. I heard today via a friend on FB that some other so-called "friends" have an actual deadpool on me to see when I finally bite it.
I'm so fucking over everything. And my research on my current project is moving much slower than I want it to, so I just may give up.
Suu thank you for coming here with your troubles. I saw an echo of my own ongoing scream and it seemed to me nobody in the thread was being real with you. I think you are an amazing person and I know EXACTLY how easy it is to not see that and despair and be about to rage quit life. I want to see you keep being awesome and badass and I have no doubt that not only will the current troubles one day end, but that you will, as I did, be glad you stayed. Be sure that some things will for now continue to deteriorate in some ways. You may have to make some hard changes for your own sake, but KEEP AT IT PLEASE! You are NOT alone and Not Dead YET! Fight like hell and burn everything that you must if it keeps you going even one more minute.
Give the Reaper THIS look and tell it to be fucking off now!
:suu:
Quote from: Suu on May 06, 2020, 01:40:47 AM
I swear, I'm going to feed him to the sarlacc pit we have opening on the side of the house. It's a sinkhole, his name is Steve, military housing won't do anything about it.
:lulz:
Pretty sure I won't be in the thing this Friday night. I have another thing. Taxidermy and RDX may be involved.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2020, 02:07:15 AM
Pretty sure I won't be in the thing this Friday night. I have another thing. Taxidermy and RDX may be involved.
If ONLY I could find a way to combine both activities. In the room with QG now. Will let her know!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2020, 02:05:58 AM
Quote from: Suu on May 06, 2020, 01:40:47 AM
I swear, I'm going to feed him to the sarlacc pit we have opening on the side of the house. It's a sinkhole, his name is Steve, military housing won't do anything about it.
:lulz:
I have a gaping maw in my yard. It is either a gopher tortoise that keeps dragging in trash that is not ours, or a sinkhole that is attracting trash that is not ours. I'll take pictures and post them tomorrow.
It's been there long enough, to where I don't see it opening up and swallowing the house immediately, but if it did right now, it would just be so fucking apropos I'd probably let it suck me in drinking coffee and petting the cat like, "Oh, Wednesday the 67th of Maypril is here."
Stories from the 3rd world:
People dont "believe" in Covid, but believe all the medical system is killing people off to traffick their knee's sinovial fluid.
Ok zoom room is up and running.
I was just informed that on top of there being no resources that aren't utterly stomped flat, I will not get transportation to a train station and will be left to die if my only option is going to go be homeless in Chicago.
Unfortunately, every long distance train is booked for everything except going to Chicago.
So I have to catch a plane. Name a place to go, because they're all absolutely identical to me currently: there is no support network anywhere and I have two hours to get my ticket.
Jesus fucking Christ, Altered. I'm so sorry.
Fuck, that sucks Altered.
Hopefully things turn to better soon!
Imagine, if you will, "I just shot Marvin in the face."
Got it in your head? Real solid?
Good.
The entire universe is Marvin.
Fuck it, I'm bored.
I'm gonna get banned from Facebook today. Been a hot minute.
Not going to have the room up today, but tomorrow for sure. So much went wrong so hard and in coordinated fashion that the Malefic God thing is no longer theory to me. Gonna treat my wounds today and be at least suitable for personal interaction tomorrow, but goddamn it altered was not in any way exaggerating about the Marvin thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBBni_-tMNs
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on May 07, 2020, 07:01:37 PM
Not going to have the room up today, but tomorrow for sure. So much went wrong so hard and in coordinated fashion that the Malefic God thing is no longer theory to me. Gonna treat my wounds today and be at least suitable for personal interaction tomorrow, but goddamn it altered was not in any way exaggerating about the Marvin thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBBni_-tMNs
Um, that was me with the Marvin thing.
Blame me, unintentional plagiarism. I used that (knowing you use Marvin getting shot often enough, and I did mention it's your thing to say) to shorten "the idea of fun and joy got shot in the head at 20 paces by accident and now I'm just watching the corpse get dragged around on the end of a tow chain".
Quote from: altered on May 07, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
Blame me, unintentional plagiarism. I used that (knowing you use Marvin getting shot often enough, and I did mention it's your thing to say) to shorten "the idea of fun and joy got shot in the head at 20 paces by accident and now I'm just watching the corpse get dragged around on the end of a tow chain".
This is true, and I know it's your thing Dok. I was specifically referring to the post upthread, but was not perhaps as clear as I should have been.
Quote from: altered on May 07, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
Blame me, unintentional plagiarism. I used that (knowing you use Marvin getting shot often enough, and I did mention it's your thing to say) to shorten "the idea of fun and joy got shot in the head at 20 paces by accident and now I'm just watching the corpse get dragged around on the end of a tow chain".
It's all good. I mean, it's not like I came up with it.
For the sake of keeping everyone else sane, I'll be leaving for an indefinite period of time real soon. It's been good being back, but I don't want to subject you folks to me in the cyclic rage/begging/complete breakdown state I'm going to be in.
I'll rejoin when I feel okay, no worries there. Just for now, it's best for everyone if I stay disconnected.
Look after yourself altered, and I hope things are a lot more stable for you soon, so we can have you back.
Take care of yourself, altered. I hope we hear from you soon.
Hope things prove for you altered
Somebody tried to steal my mail by putting in a mail forward to Georgia for a month, under my name, not the husband. That means it's intentional.
The kicker is that the address in Georgia must not be real, because parcels are being returned to sender. I caught it because I have informed delivery, and boy am I glad I do. Suddenly watching things go from being in the delivery queue to nothing? Yeah.
It's a federal offense, and I'm under the impression that my local postmaster alerted the Fed Inspectors, and boy do I hope someone gets caught.
Quote from: altered on May 07, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
"the idea of fun and joy got shot in the head at 20 paces by accident and now I'm just watching the corpse get dragged around on the end of a tow chain".
I'm just going to sit here with this one.
Quote from: Suu on May 08, 2020, 10:36:07 PM
Somebody tried to steal my mail by putting in a mail forward to Georgia for a month, under my name, not the husband. That means it's intentional.
The kicker is that the address in Georgia must not be real, because parcels are being returned to sender. I caught it because I have informed delivery, and boy am I glad I do. Suddenly watching things go from being in the delivery queue to nothing? Yeah.
It's a federal offense, and I'm under the impression that my local postmaster alerted the Fed Inspectors, and boy do I hope someone gets caught.
That's...weird.
OK, I can see that someone might do that to fuck with you...if it weren't a Federal offense, as mentioned. That's some pretty extreme stupidity. Like if you're willing to break the law, you can do better than that. And if you're not, why not do something equally annoying but less illegal?
I think somebody tried to do that with me and an old address. They tried to buy a new iPhone and send it to an old address of mine, and Apple sent the confirmation email to my account.
I canceled, and made sure Apple flagged that address as invalid for my account. They must have scraped public data about me.
Zoomroom is up and running. Got a little bit of a late start today, but that's good because I got some much needed solid sleep. Will probably remain open until 2am central time!
So I just popped in to check up on you folks. Hope everyone is doing ok (even those who don't like me) and everyone is following safe social distancing practices and...
... is ready for the apocalypse if you live in the USA. Hold on to your hat cowboy, this ride's gonna be a doozy. I wish I could say that with cheer but given the circumstances it is with heavy heart and mind that I utter this, knowing in the past I've held views that, would accelerate this kind of stupidity. I feel partially responsible, and maybe I should. Regardless, the sentiment is that I hope you and yours are safe and continue to be safe.
Sorry to hear of everyone's difficulty, I only read three pages but it sounds like things are harsh all over.
I'm doing alright. Good to hear you're still around and kicking, at least.
Yeah, thanks. The universe is far too cruel to retire me early. Glad to hear you're alright, Cain.
As a note altered popped briefly into the room and basically said she was in Boston and expects to die and wanted me to know, then left. I wrestled with whether or not to post about it here, but decided to so as to express my hope that that does not hapen and to keep folks abreast of the situation. Time will tell one way or another.
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 10, 2020, 02:36:22 AM
So I just popped in to check up on you folks. Hope everyone is doing ok (even those who don't like me) and everyone is following safe social distancing practices and...
... is ready for the apocalypse if you live in the USA. Hold on to your hat cowboy, this ride's gonna be a doozy. I wish I could say that with cheer but given the circumstances it is with heavy heart and mind that I utter this, knowing in the past I've held views that, would accelerate this kind of stupidity. I feel partially responsible, and maybe I should. Regardless, the sentiment is that I hope you and yours are safe and continue to be safe.
Sorry to hear of everyone's difficulty, I only read three pages but it sounds like things are harsh all over.
I occasionally find you annoying, but not as much as I make it seem for the lulz. You're not a NAZI or in any way at their table that I know of. Glad you're alive. you're right though. In the US particularly this shit storm is still getting warmed up.
Just an update on that, because it could either be construed as an overreaction or a definitive end. I was at my lowest point, with the resources of 30+ people across the country failing to do anything but get me a working Facebook account for once. Oh yeah, that's a thing, by the way. But yeah, I gave that message to Joe when I was certain I had run out of hope, after hours and hours of nothing.
It's kind of both an overreaction and a definitive end: I won't die today. But I would have.
Thanks to my friends, I'm headed to Texas, and I have been told that I will get COVID, no questions. But COVID has a survival rate: a complete lack of shelter, cops destroying any and all makeshift shelter without arresting folks, and cold wind capable of cutting through winter coat, two hoodies and a cloak is pretty definitive. The local homeless population is breaking social distancing to survive in a huddle, because there's no other way to stay alive: all shelters in the state are maxed out or closed entirely, and if they get arrested for social distancing stuff at least they stay warm.
I spent five hours in the more mild cold before nightfall today and barely could move after. I didn't get feeling back in my (raw and bloody from the wind) fingers for another three hours after that, and I was wearing two layers of heavy woolen gloves. It is deadly weather. And it's been snowing wet snow off and on, to put a nice bow on it all.
COVID is horrid, but I have good chances: best estimate I worked out with some medical friends is only a 25% chance of serious illness after accounting for everything wrong with me. That's pretty scary, but again, exposure is definitive, and the weather in Boston is only supposed to get worse until Wednesday. So COVID it is. Bonus: I get to charge my phone and take regular showers. Those aren't a thing in MA right now, period.
"As desperate as altered going to Texas" is now a thing. Best fortune Altered! One day at a time.
I'm glad to hear more about your reprieve, Altered.
Update (trying to keep posts on here to positive shit For Now): someone found a homeless shelter in the Dallas area, run by decent humans, taking COVID seriously, who might be able to take me in starting tomorrow.
Homeless shelters are normally hideous places run by tired people who see you as subhuman: you call in, you get a polite greeting, then they realize you're another fucking homeless person and they tell you stuff in this dismissive get-fucked way.
This one, lady at the desk immediately was like "we closed intake a half hour ago, but tomorrow call in after 10:30 AM and I'll have answers on availability for you, here's what you need, here's the details on where you need to be and what you need to have. Here's the answers to any questions you have. Please stay safe for tonight!"
I have such chaotic fucking luck, but if I can ride this upswing just right... I'll be okay.
Still keeping to positive news till I'm actually confident about the future beyond two days.
Fingers crossed for you.
Hoping the best!
Dumping Bernie or Bust freaks on Facebook.
Fuck 'em. Assholes.
Ever look at someone you thought was of good moral quality, hear them say a certain thing and realize they were following the rules because they were rules and could tell people what to do, and not because of the reason said rules exist?
Anyway, what is the male equivalent of Kai Winn or Dolores Umbridge?
Sounds like Patrick Bateman to be honest. What was it?
Ive had two days with the baby after a lot of drama with the mothers blood pressure where both her and the baby were readmitted (to breast feed), last two weeks have been really stressful, hated feeling powerless to do anything, and not being able to visit for close to two weeks nearly drove me off the deep end.
Sleeping in four hour shifts and swapping with herself so she gets a good night sleep.
Feeding, changing, isn't bad, winding isnt easy, but I'm finding taking care of part ok, now that I finally can.
Quote from: Faust on May 13, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
Sounds like Patrick Bateman to be honest. What was it?
Ive had two days with the baby after a lot of drama with the mothers blood pressure where both her and the baby were readmitted (to breast feed), last two weeks have been really stressful, hated feeling powerless to do anything, and not being able to visit for close to two weeks nearly drove me off the deep end.
Sleeping in four hour shifts and swapping with herself so she gets a good night sleep.
Feeding, changing, isn't bad, winding isnt easy, but I'm finding taking care of part ok, now that I finally can.
Immigration stuff a while back. I thought about how he was a good kid when I went to school with him. The way he described asylum seekers -specifically- just made me question his behavior. It was a meme about if you wanted refugees to come in you might as well take your door off or something like that and him commenting about laws and junk. Nothing about people as people. I had forgotten that bit until he posted about Cardinal Burke wanting to get everyone back in church and he was all for that. Rules say you have to see a priest.
The first few weeks with a baby are rough, extra tough with a hospital stay. Sleep is the best thing ever. Hang in there.
So this totally just happened and I MAY have been beatboxing
Straight outta Malden
A crazy Pope called QG
With a bomb right arm
And dope a brick throwing spree
When I'm called on
Cthulhu mask on
Squeezin wallnuts
And the alt right is all gone.
You too Jadeane
If you try to party with me
The NSA are gonna have to come get me
Outta Luxury Lanes
That's the game I'm playin
Fuck your kids and fuck the DJin
Your family values can suck my dick
From the other end of my social distance stick
Typographically tired of this shit
OG Pennyworth - Socially conscious crip
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Quote from: Faust on May 13, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
Sounds like Patrick Bateman to be honest. What was it?
Ive had two days with the baby after a lot of drama with the mothers blood pressure where both her and the baby were readmitted (to breast feed), last two weeks have been really stressful, hated feeling powerless to do anything, and not being able to visit for close to two weeks nearly drove me off the deep end.
Sleeping in four hour shifts and swapping with herself so she gets a good night sleep.
Feeding, changing, isn't bad, winding isnt easy, but I'm finding taking care of part ok, now that I finally can.
Immigration stuff a while back. I thought about how he was a good kid when I went to school with him. The way he described asylum seekers -specifically- just made me question his behavior. It was a meme about if you wanted refugees to come in you might as well take your door off or something like that and him commenting about laws and junk. Nothing about people as people. I had forgotten that bit until he posted about Cardinal Burke wanting to get everyone back in church and he was all for that. Rules say you have to see a priest.
The first few weeks with a baby are rough, extra tough with a hospital stay. Sleep is the best thing ever. Hang in there.
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Sam Harris. Everyone's groovy except evil Muslims who are all terrorists.
I dunno who needs to hear this, but wouldn't the old 3-2-1 Contact opening theme make a great theme song for Antifa?
Nobody's using it for anything now. Just fucking take it.
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Ever look at someone you thought was of good moral quality, hear them say a certain thing and realize they were following the rules because they were rules and could tell people what to do, and not because of the reason said rules exist?
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Oh, yeah.
TONIGHT! YOU! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/838459252
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 23, 2020, 01:22:28 AM
TONIGHT! YOU! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/838459252
I got home an hour after you started.
:cry:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2020, 04:22:47 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 23, 2020, 01:22:28 AM
TONIGHT! YOU! https://us02web.zoom.us/j/838459252
I got home an hour after you started.
:cry:
Aw, folks are always happy to see you, even if you pop in late
So I got an email on Tuesday after lunch from a principal, telling me he was doing interviews starting Wednesday and asking if I was interested. I replied late in the evening that I was but requested Thursday/Friday and haven't heard from him since. It's not really a school I actively want to work at but rn it's very "beggars can't be choosers" and the staff is apparently great, according to an acquaintance who works there. I'm debating the merits of a follow up email in case it got lost in his inbox.
Quote from: Juana on May 24, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
So I got an email on Tuesday after lunch from a principal, telling me he was doing interviews starting Wednesday and asking if I was interested. I replied late in the evening that I was but requested Thursday/Friday and haven't heard from him since. It's not really a school I actively want to work at but rn it's very "beggars can't be choosers" and the staff is apparently great, according to an acquaintance who works there. I'm debating the merits of a follow up email in case it got lost in his inbox.
Do it. If he's not interested, there's no harm done.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2020, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 24, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
So I got an email on Tuesday after lunch from a principal, telling me he was doing interviews starting Wednesday and asking if I was interested. I replied late in the evening that I was but requested Thursday/Friday and haven't heard from him since. It's not really a school I actively want to work at but rn it's very "beggars can't be choosers" and the staff is apparently great, according to an acquaintance who works there. I'm debating the merits of a follow up email in case it got lost in his inbox.
Do it. If he's not interested, there's no harm done.
Yeah, I went ahead and did it. 🤷♀️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWl7kQZHZE0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWl7kQZHZE0)
Honest Government ad for The Machine
Quote from: The Johnny on May 26, 2020, 03:35:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWl7kQZHZE0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWl7kQZHZE0)
Honest Government ad for The Machine
:lulz: :horrormirth:
BRUTAL
Welp. What I'm hearing from my sister wrt what my district might look like next year would destroy me financially. I'm gonna be fighting to get hired and/or looking to go back to a tech track like I was considering a few years ago.
I snapped my right clavicle today, perhaps Karma is real. Damn this shit hurts but it's, doable.
Quote from: Juana on May 27, 2020, 01:41:44 AM
Welp. What I'm hearing from my sister wrt what my district might look like next year would destroy me financially. I'm gonna be fighting to get hired and/or looking to go back to a tech track like I was considering a few years ago.
Ugh, that sucks! I don't know the context though, what kind of district?
what kind of tech work do you want to (potentially) do (as a last resort)?
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 27, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
I snapped my right clavicle today, perhaps Karma is real. Damn this shit hurts but it's, doable.
How the hell did you break your clavicle? let me guess -- doing scooter tricks while lipsyncing Ice Ice Baby, for Tik Tok
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 24, 2020, 04:25:32 PM
Yeah, you know what? You win. It's senseless for me to continue. It simply is not worth it. Not because I'm scared, but because, if no one wants me here, me saying more dumb shit is pointless. There's a billion other communities that actually appreciate my input, I should go back to those. So yeah, going the fuck away.
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 27, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
I snapped my right clavicle today, perhaps Karma is real. Damn this shit hurts but it's, doable.
You lied. You said you were leaving, but you're still here. You should post in those communities that "appreciate" your input, instead. I don't care if you're in pain or not, just shut up and go away.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 27, 2020, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 27, 2020, 01:41:44 AM
Welp. What I'm hearing from my sister wrt what my district might look like next year would destroy me financially. I'm gonna be fighting to get hired and/or looking to go back to a tech track like I was considering a few years ago.
Ugh, that sucks! I don't know the context though, what kind of district?
what kind of tech work do you want to (potentially) do (as a last resort)?
I'm a substitute teacher and I work for one of the local school districts. QA would be the easiest thing to get my foot in the door for.
Caught a face full of pepper spray. How was your week?
The nation burning gives me hope. Which is the weirdest fucking sentence.
Aside from the pepper spray, how's things?
Still processing yesterday honestly. Getty photographer got in my face while I was getting cleaned off, some asshole was setting off fireworks, apparently someone had an allergic reaction to all the pepper in the air and needed to be taken out in a stretcher, but that was after I left. Best thing I did all day was get a cough drop to the black girl blowing her voice out on the megaphone. I feel like an abject failure.
BIG RESPECT for getting out there and getting sprayed, QGP. Don't be hard on yourself, the Good Fight is not all prize fights.
I saw your post on FB. Damn, you've got heart.
Mad respect.
Do we know if QVP is okay tonight?
IM BACK!
OHHHHH SHIT
HERE WE GO AGAIN
but in a good way! Hiya Pixie!
Hello new person, pool's on the roof
Quote from: Cramulus on May 31, 2020, 04:51:40 PM
OHHHHH SHIT
HERE WE GO AGAIN
but in a good way! Hiya Pixie!
:WAVES:
I'm feeling a little crazier with lockdown and am trying to distract myself by coming back.
Good idea, especially given the great British public is already confusing "relaxed restrictions from Monday" with "do what you want, from right now". I'm expecting a very predictable spike in the coming days.
Heya Pixie!
HEY CAINAD --- check out the SCUP threads in the RPG Ghetto
(Cainad's partner is the one who introduced me to SCUP)
Pixie! Greetings!
Gah looking for a facebook post, not sure if it was on Pango's page or not where it starts out "do you think we're more stable than yugoslavia" or something of that nature about how the NRA amd like minded message boards always talked about a purge and that they don't want to rise up with the government they're waiting for the government ok to go and kill their neighbors.
Because yeah sort of want to share that.
last time, it was just to prove to myself i could make it back. my reason was unworthy, i flopped the landing, and vanished again.
this time, my country is on fire in a figurative and literal sense that i never thought would happen.
hey. i give a lot of fucks about shit going down. what's up in this bitch?
Facebook isn't loading for me. Literally the best thing that could happen right now, except that part where I'm being asked to debunk Hitler memes and I cannot. Good thing I have a moderator for that.
I'm going to spend my day reading books and working on my garden, and thinking of what it would be like in a different timeline, because I've gotten more threats on my life this week than I care to admit. The Right wants me dead because I debunk their shit, the Left wants me dead because my husband is active duty and they think that he's coming to kill them. (FFS, he's a bubblehead.)
Yes, reading about the Bronze Age will make me feel better.
Suu, I wanna hear your best "bronze age collapse" theory
The Sea People were from space, right? I mean, it's kinda obvious. Like we wouldn't notice.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 02, 2020, 03:19:33 PM
Suu, I wanna hear your best "bronze age collapse" theory
The Sea People were from space, right? I mean, it's kinda obvious. Like we wouldn't notice.
Seems reasonable.
There was also a massive volcano eruption on Thera, which is now known as Santorini. Nothing like a good volcanic winter and some pirates to fuck up civilization.
Quote from: Freeky on June 02, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
last time, it was just to prove to myself i could make it back. my reason was unworthy, i flopped the landing, and vanished again.
this time, my country is on fire in a figurative and literal sense that i never thought would happen.
hey. i give a lot of fucks about shit going down. what's up in this bitch?
Flopped another one.
2020: Plague, murder hornets, riots, and the misery princess came back to PD. :lulz:
Quote from: Suu on June 02, 2020, 05:46:49 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 02, 2020, 03:19:33 PM
Suu, I wanna hear your best "bronze age collapse" theory
The Sea People were from space, right? I mean, it's kinda obvious. Like we wouldn't notice.
Seems reasonable.
There was also a massive volcano eruption on Thera, which is now known as Santorini. Nothing like a good volcanic winter and some pirates to fuck up civilization.
Yep. As fast as Freeky can fuck up a game shop.
Remember when there was a game shop?
Neither do I.
Okay, Cain, Faust, I have NO CLUE about the three people in the waiting room.
They look like bots, but I don't want to shitcan them without knowing they're bots.
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
"THESE EDIBLES AREN'T DOING SHIT!"
*ten minutes later*
"These edibles aren't doing shit!"
*ten minutes later*
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
Professional standards force me to say that there's a very real hazard in growing food crops around Tucson, and so I just did, but because I hate you, I'm not going to say what it is.
Enjoy your veggies.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 03, 2020, 01:56:51 AM
Okay, Cain, Faust, I have NO CLUE about the three people in the waiting room.
They look like bots, but I don't want to shitcan them without knowing they're bots.
Two bots and one with a fake email and username combo likely to be that nutcase from the other day
Quote from: Faust on June 03, 2020, 03:14:11 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 03, 2020, 01:56:51 AM
Okay, Cain, Faust, I have NO CLUE about the three people in the waiting room.
They look like bots, but I don't want to shitcan them without knowing they're bots.
Two bots and one with a fake email and username combo likely to be that nutcase from the other day
Word.
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route,
You can tell your fiancee that traditional farms don't use horses anymore. They switched over to tractors around the 1920s.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 03, 2020, 04:01:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route,
You can tell your fiancee that traditional farms don't use horses anymore. They switched over to tractors around the 1920s.
Freeky trying to take care of a horse.
The mind boggles.
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
Dumb fact of the day: The Tibetan Blackbird's scientific name is Turdus Maximus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_blackbird
probably should be the forum's mascot
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Tibetan_Blackbird_%28Turdus_maximus%29_1_cropped.jpg)
Quote from: Cramulus on June 03, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA) and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M)
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
BALLS MARGIN CALL
Quote from: Cramulus on June 03, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
none, at the moment. they're working their student debt off, and i'm waiting for SSI hearings. we're hoping for at least a couple acres of property, but who knows honestly when we'll even be ready. ideally, a property with ten or more acres, which isn't impossible in some states, but we might have to settle, which is fine tbh! sack farming would do us well, and i've done a lot of research into how to feasibly do aquaponics and hydroponics.
:popcorn:
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
My general experience with growing crops is that it is a lot of work. Doing it different ways changes what sort of work that is, but not really the amount.
If you can find a way to grow food that is a sort of work you are comfortable doing it is totally worth it, but if you are chronically ill in a way that makes hard physical work impossible it's probably best to leave the food growing to the (sadly underpaid) professionals.
Quote from: Pergamos on June 04, 2020, 05:05:41 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
My general experience with growing crops is that it is a lot of work. Doing it different ways changes what sort of work that is, but not really the amount.
If you can find a way to grow food that is a sort of work you are comfortable doing it is totally worth it, but if you are chronically ill in a way that makes hard physical work impossible it's probably best to leave the food growing to the (sadly underpaid) professionals.
i do accept that it's gonna be a lot of work, and i look forward to it honestly! walking is the most difficult. i can do it as long as it's not daytime and hot out, so i feel like if working in the heat is going to be a thing anyway, because that's when most growing seasons are, minimizing the distance i have to move will be of great help in making it more doable.
<---- Is vastly amused by the very idea.
I run a reasonably-sized hobby garden, about 30 ft. on each side. If I wanted to scale up to the point where it accounted for a significant part of my food intake, I expect I would need to quit my job to take up gardening full-time, and invest several tens of thousands in equipment and land.
And then I'd spend the winter eating mostly potatoes and beans.
But I don't grow potatoes. They're boring, and for a few bucks I can buy a bag at the grocery store.
Unless you're almost completely mechanized, gardening requires the equivalent of doing bad-form squats for hours on end. If you have back or knee problems, it will severely exacerbate them. And if walking is difficult for you...I don't think this is going to work out. Sorry.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 04, 2020, 02:15:45 PM
I run a reasonably-sized hobby garden, about 30 ft. on each side. If I wanted to scale up to the point where it accounted for a significant part of my food intake, I expect I would need to quit my job to take up gardening full-time, and invest several tens of thousands in equipment and land.
And then I'd spend the winter eating mostly potatoes and beans.
But I don't grow potatoes. They're boring, and for a few bucks I can buy a bag at the grocery store.
Unless you're almost completely mechanized, gardening requires the equivalent of doing bad-form squats for hours on end. If you have back or knee problems, it will severely exacerbate them. And if walking is difficult for you...I don't think this is going to work out. Sorry.
Odds are, you also don't have the horrible problem that the Tucson region has.
There's a very good reason we only grow cotton and pot here.
Also, imagine thinking that you can just read up on food crop hydroponics when people go to school for years to learn that. Imagine having your water go sideways on you,
without you even knowing it. Imagine not even seeing there's a REASON people leave the farm for the city and never, ever go back.
"I can't walk much, so I'll farm." :lulz:
Still, the potential humor value of this is fucking HUGE, so I'm gonna stop talking it down.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
Imagine not even seeing there's a REASON people leave the farm for the city and never, ever go back.
My great-grandfather was a farmer. My grandfather was a farmer. My father was a farmer.
I get paid to sit on my butt and solve math puzzles.
I'm trying to make essome sock puppets for facebook, how much effort do people put into these things?
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I'm trying to make essome sock puppets for facebook, how much effort do people put into these things?
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I generally do the entire profile.
Unless I'm spoofing my MAC #, in which case it's a single shot deal, and cannot be used again after I shut off my machine.
I have seen a whole cop squad out at the local internet switch box, and the hotel night manager says that "they're doing maintenance but normally they call". Maintenance at midnight in a hotel. And it's all cops.
I'm paying close attention to signal strength and not connecting phone to wi-fi from now on. If it's happening here it's happening elsewhere. Be sane and aware.
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I'm trying to make essome sock puppets for facebook, how much effort do people put into these things?
I generally do the entire profile.
Unless I'm spoofing my MAC #, in which case it's a single shot deal, and cannot be used again after I shut off my machine.
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I wanna lure an asshat to the Americans for Sarah Palin group. I can't friend him on my main because his asshattery will fill whatever container it's put in. Right now it's filling a friend of mine's feed and the other guy just lets it because they're both Navy.
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I wanna lure an asshat to the Americans for Sarah Palin group. I can't friend him on my main because his asshattery will fill whatever container it's put in. Right now it's filling a friend of mine's feed and the other guy just lets it because they're both Navy.
So invite the buddy, then have HIM invite the asshat.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Unless I'm spoofing my MAC #, in which case it's a single shot deal, and cannot be used again after I shut off my machine.
I am confuse.
How would facebook know the MAC address of your computer? That's only used for packet switching on the local ethernet, and should be invisible past the first router. I don't think even my ISP knows the MAC address of my desktop (they could probably find the MAC of my NAT box, if they cared).
Or is changing your MAC address just a way to get the ISP's DHCP server to give you a different IP address?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2020, 03:19:24 PM
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I wanna lure an asshat to the Americans for Sarah Palin group. I can't friend him on my main because his asshattery will fill whatever container it's put in. Right now it's filling a friend of mine's feed and the other guy just lets it because they're both Navy.
So invite the buddy, then have HIM invite the asshat.
Sigh... I suppose if you want to make things all simple and such.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 05, 2020, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Unless I'm spoofing my MAC #, in which case it's a single shot deal, and cannot be used again after I shut off my machine.
I am confuse.
How would facebook know the MAC address of your computer? That's only used for packet switching on the local ethernet, and should be invisible past the first router. I don't think even my ISP knows the MAC address of my desktop (they could probably find the MAC of my NAT box, if they cared).
Or is changing your MAC address just a way to get the ISP's DHCP server to give you a different IP address?
Depending on the service and the protocol, MAC addresses go quite far. Back in the Olden Days a MAC spoof was part two of a way to break into an ICQ (or was it MSN?) account without knowing login info. Facebook might well request the client MAC address for some reason, they have a ton of arcane shit on the back end.
Quote from: altered on June 05, 2020, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 05, 2020, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Unless I'm spoofing my MAC #, in which case it's a single shot deal, and cannot be used again after I shut off my machine.
I am confuse.
How would facebook know the MAC address of your computer? That's only used for packet switching on the local ethernet, and should be invisible past the first router. I don't think even my ISP knows the MAC address of my desktop (they could probably find the MAC of my NAT box, if they cared).
Or is changing your MAC address just a way to get the ISP's DHCP server to give you a different IP address?
Depending on the service and the protocol, MAC addresses go quite far. Back in the Olden Days a MAC spoof was part two of a way to break into an ICQ (or was it MSN?) account without knowing login info. Facebook might well request the client MAC address for some reason, they have a ton of arcane shit on the back end.
This is how they ban a user without banning everyone else in the house. If you attempt to make a new account while banned (from the same MAC #), they will ask you for ID. If you move your account to a different machine, they sometimes also ask you for ID.
I'm not so much interested in what they would do with it, as in how they would get it.
If we're talking about a facebook app that you have running on your phone, well, I guess anything's possible? I know very little about mobile platforms.
But if the only point of connection between you and facebook is web traffic over TCP/IP, then there shouldn't be any direct way of extracting the MAC address. And although a webbrowser will report everything from your audio card's sampling rate to your keyboard layout, it doesn't seem that it is able to query your MAC address, unless it is somehow given permission to run unrestricted binaries on your machine.
Since MAC addresses are practically globally unique, this level of fingerprinting capability would constitute a hell of a security vulnerability.
P.S.: I log into facebook on average once every six months, make of that what you will.
You can absolutely use TCP/IP and HTML5 to establish a connection on a different protocol through the web browser. There are in fact Unity web games that have done it. In fact, when I was testing them (~2011), this was not considered a security risk and required no prompting.
Requesting MAC addresses when you shouldn't is done all the time, and they use them all the time even when they shouldn't. You can test this yourself all kinds of ways. But if you need an IPv6 address, you'll usually broadcast your MAC address to the universe anyway, because most IP providers use the device MAC for the low end of IPv6 addresses.
Quote from: altered on June 05, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
most IP providers use the device MAC for the low end of IPv6 addresses.
Ohhh.
Now I get it.
Even if your ISP / LAN / whatever doesn't support IPv6, practically every OS assigns itself a IPv6 link-local address, anyway, which has at least part of the MAC address embedded.
Asking a web browser "what are your local IP addresses?" is quite plausible (WebRTC appears to allow this). So unless you have WebRTC or IPv6 entirely disabled...boom.
ETA: This might not be the way they're actually doing it, but it does flip my mental switch from "I don't think that's possible" to "There's at least one way."
my fiance has challenged herself to write an erotic vampire short story every day.
Yesterday's story was titled "Oh no! My cat is a shapeshifting vampire who wants to fuck me"
Sounds like Dr Chuck Tingle is its own genre now.
yeah that's the idea - crank out short stories, under 3000 words each, try to sell them (either 'pay what you want' or a dollar). Some funny, some straight-faced. She's got a YA novel in print, and a couple more on the stove, but keeps thrashing around and scrapping them when she gets new ideas. So short erotic vampire stories are a good "low hanging goal", just something to keep her writing every day.
Two days ago she wrote a story about a vampire who is only allowed to feed by licking blood off her mistress' boots. I think she may have found her genre. :sexybeast:
I think you could probably make way more than a dollar a pop.
Probably. But short-form erotic fiction is one of the most scalable and profitable writing ventures, even when selling that low.
You're more likely to make a living cranking 20-30 erotic stories a year than you are as an actual novelist. Especially if you go for more niche areas, like for furries and so on.
Furfic can go for 10-20 bucks per flash fiction piece. Literally like a dollar a page. This doesn't scale up to novel size (usually 25 dollars is the ceiling for furfic regardless of length) but it's a hell of a lot of money.
I cannot imagine what the werewolf furries would pay. They already pay on average an order of magnitude more on fur suits than other furries. They probably would buy you a house in exchange for a three story collection.
(I know a lot of furries.)
where do you think is the best place to sling smut stories these days?
The interviews I was reading just had people doing it via Amazon, I believe.
No doubt other stores would probably offer better ratios, but less exposure
Quote from: Cramulus on June 06, 2020, 03:23:06 PM
where do you think is the best place to sling smut stories these days?
To your niche! But use a platform that doesn't do a whole lot of vetting, like Amazon, for publishing. (If you are remotely worried someone might not publish your smut, pick a less strict publisher.)
Figure out where your niche lives online (vampire bullshit is gonna be big in goth communities, etc) and put ALL of your PR work there. Ad spends are way less important than identifying big names in the niche community (for example Twitter user @vexwerewolf in the werewolf furry community) and asking if they could read and recommend your book. The niche is going to be small, spend freely, and listen more to each other and their gut than to advertisements.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 04, 2020, 02:15:45 PM
I run a reasonably-sized hobby garden, about 30 ft. on each side. If I wanted to scale up to the point where it accounted for a significant part of my food intake, I expect I would need to quit my job to take up gardening full-time, and invest several tens of thousands in equipment and land.
And then I'd spend the winter eating mostly potatoes and beans.
But I don't grow potatoes. They're boring, and for a few bucks I can buy a bag at the grocery store.
Unless you're almost completely mechanized, gardening requires the equivalent of doing bad-form squats for hours on end. If you have back or knee problems, it will severely exacerbate them. And if walking is difficult for you...I don't think this is going to work out. Sorry.
i appreciate that you're trying to save me from heartache, but there's plenty of ways to do it that don't involve shoving seeds into the dirt that's at ground level.
aquaponics planters can easily be raised and set over the fish tanks, leaving them at waist height - that's probably the best setup for space restrictions, anyway, and gravity helps in the water cycle too, saving me from yet another pump system to figure out.
hydroponics can be done upright, and it's another popular space saving technique that maximizes output and minimizes space, and can be as tall as you please, though some plants don't do well with that and we'd need more experience to get the finicky plants to thrive.
we could do raised plant beds, or potted plants, or hanging pots even for lighter things like herbs. what i'm getting at here is that i'm aware of my own limitations and have put in the work to find solutions that already exist.
*Sits back and waits for Legionella Apocalypse*
Quote from: Freeky on June 06, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
i appreciate that you're trying to save me from heartache,
Well, this
is awkward. We seem to have a misunderstanding. Your heartache was not my concern; I don't know you, and so mean you neither well nor ill.
I will rephrase:
:snob:
It's all very well if you wish to attempt a tomato or two in a window box, but let's leave the large-scale stuff to the
professionals, hmm?
Quote from: Freeky on June 04, 2020, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 03, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
none, at the moment. they're working their student debt off, and i'm waiting for SSI hearings. we're hoping for at least a couple acres of property, but who knows honestly when we'll even be ready. ideally, a property with ten or more acres, which isn't impossible in some states, but we might have to settle, which is fine tbh! sack farming would do us well, and i've done a lot of research into how to feasibly do aquaponics and hydroponics.
Is this all just to have something to do, or a situation where you're fucked if you fail?
It would probably be wise to at least start out small, and see how that works out. Youtube videos are ok-ish for back porch scale projects, but anything like that on the scale of acres definitely needs some real adult supervision, which would mean, at a minimum, paying a consultant with a degree in the field.
We're doing pretty good with container gardening in the backyard using just 5 gallon buckets with holes drilled in them, on top of pallets to keep them off the sand and draining. Another friend is using IKEA bags rigged with cement blocks into a square bed, and then filled with gravel for drainage, and soil. It works like gangbusters.
I have cherry tomatoes, zucchini, runner beans, marigolds, and lavender outside. In my lanai, I have rosemary and basil to control them so they don't take over the yard. Rosemary does amazingly well in Florida sand and heat, so it may do good in Arizona, too depending on the water requirements. It could be work looking into if you like to cook with it.
In other news, that tropical storm's low pressure finally hit the East Coast, and I've had a migraine since yesterday afternoon. If anybody has the remedy for pulling a fucking sword out from behind my left eye, let me know.
Is it far behind or sort of like just barely past it?
Also, aside from the headache and light sensitivity, any other migraine symptoms? If it's a cluster headache like I get, I learned a decent remedy very recently.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 07, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 06, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
i appreciate that you're trying to save me from heartache,
Well, this is awkward. We seem to have a misunderstanding. Your heartache was not my concern; I don't know you, and so mean you neither well nor ill.
You're a better man than I am. :lulz:
I want to see this happen, for the same reason I enjoy watching a freight train derail.
Quote from: Freeky on June 04, 2020, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 03, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
none, at the moment. they're working their student debt off, and i'm waiting for SSI hearings. we're hoping for at least a couple acres of property, but who knows honestly when we'll even be ready. ideally, a property with ten or more acres, which isn't impossible in some states, but we might have to settle, which is fine tbh! sack farming would do us well, and i've done a lot of research into how to feasibly do aquaponics and hydroponics.
Hi Freeky! long time no talk! Have you ever looked into a hugelkultur? (https://mgsoc.info/2019/01/hugelkultur-what/?) I started one before i had to leave it abruptly.
Quote from: altered on June 08, 2020, 05:52:06 PM
Is it far behind or sort of like just barely past it?
Also, aside from the headache and light sensitivity, any other migraine symptoms? If it's a cluster headache like I get, I learned a decent remedy very recently.
It's mild today, so mostly an ache around the eye hole through the temple and some mild nausea and lack of appetite, but no actual barfing. On my bad days, it's a full blown flaming sword, and I see halos. They mostly occur right before the onset of my period (yesterday), and during tropical weather (also yesterday), so I'm surprised I'm not totally incapacitated. But it's always on one side of my head.
Could be either, it sounds like. What helps me with cluster headaches...
Get the room as cold as possible to withstand without extra clothes. I have been setting the temperature to about 68F, YMMV.
Eat some high fat dairy or meat foods. Especially good is ice cream, it's also cold. This was inspired by learning that animal fats very efficiently produce DHA for the brain and nervous system to do basic maintenance on itself, but I imagine it works for other reasons too. Lots of reasons for this to have a useful effect.
Brush your teeth. The focus takes away from the agony, so it's easier for pain reduction tactics to actually work. Better still, tooth sensation is on the trigeminal nerve, so it interferes with the pain signals in the case of cluster headaches directly (cluster headaches are a kind of trigeminal neuralgia).
This goes with all the usual stuff: dark quiet spaces, lay down comfortably, etc. But I've had limited to no success with those, these (especially combined) work wonders.
I should have mentioned: if you don't eat animal sourced food products, take some Omega-3 supplements instead. It can't be just any fat, animal fats and Omega-3s are something like 8-12x more efficiently converted into DHA than plant fats. Olive oil might help if it's the real deal, the jury is out on that, but it is known that canola, rapeseed, coconut, peanut and so forth do fuck all for DHA production.
for lack of a better spot - another three years have gone by: and holy fuck did my outlook on life change beyond just getting fucking old. :3
there is actually a life worth living now. who would have thought this even existed??
but i guess that is mostly thanks to black market prescription hormones which finally put my brain into its rightful soup. and then hrt did its magic, partially to the body, which i am still somewhat trying to kinda live with; but most of all - to ye ol' brainbox: which can finally work as intended and damn did it click into place.
so yeah;i am kinda back. new and improved. eksky/planeswalker is dead - long live Ari, the tentacle queen. yadda yadda.
now back to lurking to see what you have all been up to as of late. i missed this place.
eyyo
/ari atari
Quote from: Ari Atari on June 09, 2020, 12:10:37 PM
for lack of a better spot - another three years have gone by: and holy fuck did my outlook on life change beyond just getting fucking old. :3
there is actually a life worth living now. who would have thought this even existed??
but i guess that is mostly thanks to black market prescription hormones which finally put my brain into its rightful soup. and then hrt did its magic, partially to the body, which i am still somewhat trying to kinda live with; but most of all - to ye ol' brainbox: which can finally work as intended and damn did it click into place.
so yeah;i am kinda back. new and improved. eksky/planeswalker is dead - long live Ari, the tentacle queen. yadda yadda.
now back to lurking to see what you have all been up to as of late. i missed this place.
eyyo
/ari atari
I don't remember you at all, were you noteworthy?
moist likely, not. :lulz:
i kinda dropped out eight-ish years ago. pursuing my own madness.
which is something i still do these days.
just figured i find out whatever this is now, and say hi at the very least.
frankly, the less anyone remembers the better - but it would be weird to start a fresh account just because of my past. gotta stand for who you became, and where you came from. yadda yadda
so, who are you then? :3
Hi Ari, welcome back!
I remember you, and indeed welcome back.
Quote from: Ari Atari on June 09, 2020, 01:16:42 PM
moist likely, not. :lulz:
i kinda dropped out eight-ish years ago. pursuing my own madness.
which is something i still do these days.
just figured i find out whatever this is now, and say hi at the very least.
frankly, the less anyone remembers the better - but it would be weird to start a fresh account just because of my past. gotta stand for who you became, and where you came from. yadda yadda
so, who are you then? :3
I'm Pergamos, I'm mostly pretty quiet, but I made a fool of Rev What's his name during a drug prohibition debate in an epic enough way that someone shopped our avis together, and I run a decent GURPS game.
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:51:17 AM
I should have mentioned: if you don't eat animal sourced food products, take some Omega-3 supplements instead. It can't be just any fat, animal fats and Omega-3s are something like 8-12x more efficiently converted into DHA than plant fats. Olive oil might help if it's the real deal, the jury is out on that, but it is known that canola, rapeseed, coconut, peanut and so forth do fuck all for DHA production.
I do hemp seed hearts in my shake in the morning. If I don't my brain is God's chew toy for the day.
Quote from: Ari Atari on June 09, 2020, 12:10:37 PM
for lack of a better spot - another three years have gone by: and holy fuck did my outlook on life change beyond just getting fucking old. :3
there is actually a life worth living now. who would have thought this even existed??
but i guess that is mostly thanks to black market prescription hormones which finally put my brain into its rightful soup. and then hrt did its magic, partially to the body, which i am still somewhat trying to kinda live with; but most of all - to ye ol' brainbox: which can finally work as intended and damn did it click into place.
so yeah;i am kinda back. new and improved. eksky/planeswalker is dead - long live Ari, the tentacle queen. yadda yadda.
now back to lurking to see what you have all been up to as of late. i missed this place.
eyyo
/ari atari
Oh, yeah, Planeswalker. I remember you.
We already have a tentacle queen, though. Perhaps you could be Queen of Extra Eyeballs.
That name rings a bell! Hello and welcome back aboard.
Quote from: Bruno on June 07, 2020, 09:58:43 PM
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Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
none, at the moment. they're working their student debt off, and i'm waiting for SSI hearings. we're hoping for at least a couple acres of property, but who knows honestly when we'll even be ready. ideally, a property with ten or more acres, which isn't impossible in some states, but we might have to settle, which is fine tbh! sack farming would do us well, and i've done a lot of research into how to feasibly do aquaponics and hydroponics.
Is this all just to have something to do, or a situation where you're fucked if you fail?
neither really. vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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It would probably be wise to at least start out small, and see how that works out. Youtube videos are ok-ish for back porch scale projects, but anything like that on the scale of acres definitely needs some real adult supervision, which would mean, at a minimum, paying a consultant with a degree in the field.
tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple because horses are awesome. furthermore i'd like to do animal rescue work but that's way, way out of my sphere of knowledge and is just a nice thing to dream about
Quote from: Suu on June 08, 2020, 05:40:21 PM
We're doing pretty good with container gardening in the backyard using just 5 gallon buckets with holes drilled in them, on top of pallets to keep them off the sand and draining. Another friend is using IKEA bags rigged with cement blocks into a square bed, and then filled with gravel for drainage, and soil. It works like gangbusters.
I have cherry tomatoes, zucchini, runner beans, marigolds, and lavender outside. In my lanai, I have rosemary and basil to control them so they don't take over the yard. Rosemary does amazingly well in Florida sand and heat, so it may do good in Arizona, too depending on the water requirements. It could be work looking into if you like to cook with it.
hell yeah, that sounds like an awesome setup. also this won't be in arizona, because fuck this fuckin heat.
QuoteIn other news, that tropical storm's low pressure finally hit the East Coast, and I've had a migraine since yesterday afternoon. If anybody has the remedy for pulling a fucking sword out from behind my left eye, let me know.
hot bath for me, even when it's hot out, but that's mostly for comfort, and in that comfort it takes the edge off because it's less burdensome to be in pain
Quote from: Bu🤠ns on June 09, 2020, 01:23:10 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 04, 2020, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 03, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 03, 2020, 02:13:55 AM
so, i'm getting really big into alternative ways to grow crops n shit, because while my fiancee really wants to go a traditional farm that uses horse technology route, i think the reality is just really going to be way too onerous for the two of us alone to produce the majority of our food for, what, minimum of five people at this point, two of those have dedicated incomes from outside sources (bee is one of them), two of us are severely impaired by chronic illness (i'm one of them), and then boi is gonna be a teen so probably not real hot on unpaid labor, which is totally fair i feel.
i really like the idea of going with grow bags and sack farming, because you can grow so fucking much food in a square meter cube, it's ridiculous.
here's a rad fucking video about it, 2:43 long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXHn0-gxZA and here's another longer one, 11:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBGx5nPHp3M
that's cool, I'd never heard of sack farming
how much space do you have?
none, at the moment. they're working their student debt off, and i'm waiting for SSI hearings. we're hoping for at least a couple acres of property, but who knows honestly when we'll even be ready. ideally, a property with ten or more acres, which isn't impossible in some states, but we might have to settle, which is fine tbh! sack farming would do us well, and i've done a lot of research into how to feasibly do aquaponics and hydroponics.
Hi Freeky! long time no talk! Have you ever looked into a hugelkultur? (https://mgsoc.info/2019/01/hugelkultur-what/?) I started one before i had to leave it abruptly.
hell yeah! i'll look at this! also hey! :D
Quote from: Ari Atari on June 09, 2020, 12:10:37 PM
for lack of a better spot - another three years have gone by: and holy fuck did my outlook on life change beyond just getting fucking old. :3
there is actually a life worth living now. who would have thought this even existed??
but i guess that is mostly thanks to black market prescription hormones which finally put my brain into its rightful soup. and then hrt did its magic, partially to the body, which i am still somewhat trying to kinda live with; but most of all - to ye ol' brainbox: which can finally work as intended and damn did it click into place.
so yeah;i am kinda back. new and improved. eksky/planeswalker is dead - long live Ari, the tentacle queen. yadda yadda.
now back to lurking to see what you have all been up to as of late. i missed this place.
eyyo
/ari atari
hello there!
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple because horses are awesome. furthermore i'd like to do animal rescue work but that's way, way out of my sphere of knowledge and is just a nice thing to dream about
PD: Bad for horses.
man, the difference between a freeky with an empty stomach, and a freeky with a stomach + 1 whole lasagna, is p intense. i feel all happy and satisfied and content. it's wild, i tell you.
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Could be either, it sounds like. What helps me with cluster headaches...
Get the room as cold as possible to withstand without extra clothes. I have been setting the temperature to about 68F, YMMV.
Eat some high fat dairy or meat foods. Especially good is ice cream, it's also cold. This was inspired by learning that animal fats very efficiently produce DHA for the brain and nervous system to do basic maintenance on itself, but I imagine it works for other reasons too. Lots of reasons for this to have a useful effect.
Brush your teeth. The focus takes away from the agony, so it's easier for pain reduction tactics to actually work. Better still, tooth sensation is on the trigeminal nerve, so it interferes with the pain signals in the case of cluster headaches directly (cluster headaches are a kind of trigeminal neuralgia).
This goes with all the usual stuff: dark quiet spaces, lay down comfortably, etc. But I've had limited to no success with those, these (especially combined) work wonders.
Have you tried the ice pack behind the neck trick? I've had some luck.
here's some real awesome shit: https://www.coursera.org/learn/best-practice-farming-sustainable-2050
there's a lot of information here, and while a lot of the examples are based on the farm that the university that came up with the program owns, there's still a lot of things worth knowing. i found it fascinating, though i haven't got past the water module yet - i struggle a bit with independent study.
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote from: Suu on June 09, 2020, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
Could be either, it sounds like. What helps me with cluster headaches...
Get the room as cold as possible to withstand without extra clothes. I have been setting the temperature to about 68F, YMMV.
Eat some high fat dairy or meat foods. Especially good is ice cream, it's also cold. This was inspired by learning that animal fats very efficiently produce DHA for the brain and nervous system to do basic maintenance on itself, but I imagine it works for other reasons too. Lots of reasons for this to have a useful effect.
Brush your teeth. The focus takes away from the agony, so it's easier for pain reduction tactics to actually work. Better still, tooth sensation is on the trigeminal nerve, so it interferes with the pain signals in the case of cluster headaches directly (cluster headaches are a kind of trigeminal neuralgia).
This goes with all the usual stuff: dark quiet spaces, lay down comfortably, etc. But I've had limited to no success with those, these (especially combined) work wonders.
Have you tried the ice pack behind the neck trick? I've had some luck.
That only helps if I don't actually put it behind the neck but on the throat, and it's very ... I don't know the word for it, in game design we call it "swingy". Either you wait a second too long with it there and you start to feel like you're dying of fever and your brain is shutting down or you wait a second too long to put it back and all the pain restarts in an eye blink.
Behind the neck just does nothing but distract for other pain relief methods to kick in for me. That's why I prefer cooling the room to just past the point where my fingers and toes are unhappy with me. Granted, I'm also currently in a hotel, so I'm not paying those utility bills.
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 09, 2020, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
Could be either, it sounds like. What helps me with cluster headaches...
Get the room as cold as possible to withstand without extra clothes. I have been setting the temperature to about 68F, YMMV.
Eat some high fat dairy or meat foods. Especially good is ice cream, it's also cold. This was inspired by learning that animal fats very efficiently produce DHA for the brain and nervous system to do basic maintenance on itself, but I imagine it works for other reasons too. Lots of reasons for this to have a useful effect.
Brush your teeth. The focus takes away from the agony, so it's easier for pain reduction tactics to actually work. Better still, tooth sensation is on the trigeminal nerve, so it interferes with the pain signals in the case of cluster headaches directly (cluster headaches are a kind of trigeminal neuralgia).
This goes with all the usual stuff: dark quiet spaces, lay down comfortably, etc. But I've had limited to no success with those, these (especially combined) work wonders.
Have you tried the ice pack behind the neck trick? I've had some luck.
That only helps if I don't actually put it behind the neck but on the throat, and it's very ... I don't know the word for it, in game design we call it "swingy". Either you wait a second too long with it there and you start to feel like you're dying of fever and your brain is shutting down or you wait a second too long to put it back and all the pain restarts in an eye blink.
'finnicky?'
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:50:34 PM
That only helps if I don't actually put it behind the neck but on the throat, and it's very ... I don't know the word for it, in game design we call it "swingy". Either you wait a second too long with it there and you start to feel like you're dying of fever and your brain is shutting down or you wait a second too long to put it back and all the pain restarts in an eye blink.
"Metastable"?
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: altered on June 09, 2020, 10:50:34 PM
That only helps if I don't actually put it behind the neck but on the throat, and it's very ... I don't know the word for it, in game design we call it "swingy". Either you wait a second too long with it there and you start to feel like you're dying of fever and your brain is shutting down or you wait a second too long to put it back and all the pain restarts in an eye blink.
"Metastable"?
Bethesda?
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 09, 2020, 11:32:40 PM
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Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
C O M P A N I O N S
Five kingdoms in the SCA just tossed racists out. This has been a long time coming.
This latest round of protests, plus everybody being stuck at home, really is bringing out the best in people. I have a whole new appreciation for who my friends are, and aren't, that's for fucking sure.
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 10, 2020, 02:32:07 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
I read in a blog that horses do tho.
Who said Furry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w)
Quote from: LuciferX on June 11, 2020, 02:26:00 AM
Who said Furry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w)
So
that's what happened to Phantogram.
Quote from: The Johnny on June 11, 2020, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on June 11, 2020, 02:26:00 AM
Who said Furry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5x7lFSw4w)
So that's what happened to Phantogram.
Yeah, I told him to never, ever go outside... But
nooo.
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vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
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No one's even bringing up the literal shit shoveling required? Seriously, I know horse people and they live in perpetual shit. Their lives revolve around dung removal.
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Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
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No one's even bringing up the literal shit shoveling required? Seriously, I know horse people and they live in perpetual shit. Their lives revolve around dung removal.
My first relationship was with a horse girl. She was built like a fantasy dwarf, carried hundreds of pounds one handed without help, and couldn't wear half of her clothes to her uni classes because they were either goofy goth-industrial cosplay things or permanently shit-stained from mucking the stables at home — some six months prior.
There were two closets. One was for "grocery shopping and casual errands" and you could tell which one even without opening it.
To be clear, these clothes were very washed. Horse dung is just fucking tenacious.
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Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
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15-20 pounds of food per day, but veggies are expensive.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2020, 11:33:57 PM
15-20 pounds of food per day, but veggies are expensive.
We want to keep the garden boxes at waist height, so we don't have to bend over too much, but tossing around a 50-lb hay bale won't be a problem.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2020, 11:33:57 PM
15-20 pounds of food per day, but veggies are expensive.
We want to keep the garden boxes at waist height, so we don't have to bend over too much, but tossing around a 50-lb hay bale won't be a problem.
Remember that Dunning/Krueger thing. Everyone else's job looks easy.
I keep on reading this smut and I can't stop thinking about how complicit I must be at making it dirty. either it's all some pretext, or I'm way too tolerant of this glittery pulp.
Quote from: altered on June 11, 2020, 10:52:14 PM
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Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
C O M P A N I O N S
No one's even bringing up the literal shit shoveling required? Seriously, I know horse people and they live in perpetual shit. Their lives revolve around dung removal.
My first relationship was with a horse girl. She was built like a fantasy dwarf, carried hundreds of pounds one handed without help, and couldn't wear half of her clothes to her uni classes because they were either goofy goth-industrial cosplay things or permanently shit-stained from mucking the stables at home — some six months prior.
There were two closets. One was for "grocery shopping and casual errands" and you could tell which one even without opening it.
To be clear, these clothes were very washed. Horse dung is just fucking tenacious.
As a horse
girl boy myself although I do not own horses, I've grown quite fond of the smell in my lifetime.
Welp, the Libertarians have rolled out from under their 4 year rock right on time.
I have one on my FB page who is coming up with excuses as to why they won't run for downticket offices. It's hilarious.
"Oh the other parties will push us out!"
NEWSFLASH: YOU AREN'T WINNING THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY EITHER, YOU VOTE STEALING WEED-SMOKING GUNCUNTS.
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Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 09:47:58 PM
vegetables are fucking expensive, and it might prove to be equally expensive to grow our own but we could theoretically sell excess at a farmer's market.
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tbh the acreage would be for the horses. we're both dead set on having a couple
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
Experience life in FreekyVision.
C O M P A N I O N S
No one's even bringing up the literal shit shoveling required? Seriously, I know horse people and they live in perpetual shit. Their lives revolve around dung removal.
My first relationship was with a horse girl. She was built like a fantasy dwarf, carried hundreds of pounds one handed without help, and couldn't wear half of her clothes to her uni classes because they were either goofy goth-industrial cosplay things or permanently shit-stained from mucking the stables at home — some six months prior.
There were two closets. One was for "grocery shopping and casual errands" and you could tell which one even without opening it.
To be clear, these clothes were very washed. Horse dung is just fucking tenacious.
As a horse girl boy myself although I do not own horses, I've grown quite fond of the smell in my lifetime.
Yeah, I consider my palate sophisticated but the notes of fresh-cut rye and fuel tones really get my juices going.
Quote from: Suu on June 14, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Welp, the Libertarians have rolled out from under their 4 year rock right on time.
I have one on my FB page who is coming up with excuses as to why they won't run for downticket offices. It's hilarious.
"Oh the other parties will push us out!"
NEWSFLASH: YOU AREN'T WINNING THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY EITHER, YOU VOTE STEALING WEED-SMOKING GUNCUNTS.
You just have to think of libertarians as being either closet Trump fans, or as not even part of the political landscapes. Think of them as a few circus clowns that wandered into a rugby game.
Streaker would be more accurate. "look at meeeeee" until every fucker either does or joins in.
And it turns out the closet nudist ratio is around 40% of the attendees. Now you're all talking about the naked hoons fucking the pitch up while the referee has been replaced with the tango guy screaming racial slurs at how the 60% of people wearing clothes are morons.
In short, politics everywhere has become one big 10c beer night and no one is stopping deliveries.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 10, 2020, 02:32:07 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
I think in AZ that's when it does most of it's growth. Grass needs water to grow, so unless you irrigate the crap out of it it will die in the summer there.
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Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
I think in AZ that's when it does most of it's growth. Grass needs water to grow, so unless you irrigate the crap out of it it will die in the summer there.
Vegetation here grows in July and August, when it rains.
:lulz: Forgot about the sock I made, facebook ate it.
ATTN:LMNO - https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=141&v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg
That is all.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
ATTN:LMNO - https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=141&v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg
That is all.
Yep. That is 100% LMNO.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
ATTN:LMNO - https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=141&v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=141&v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg)
That is all.
Where's Garth? Because that's his hoose you know.
If LMNO isn't already aware there's no fucking justice, that shits been a meme for like 3 years now — hold on checking math... yeah give or take a couple months
Glad some of you fuckers are still kicking around. No idea what was in my last life update but let's see, I'm married now, just bought a condo in a denver suburb because I was paying the same amount in rent and pissed off about it, had my honeymoon in japan for sakura aborted 4 days in of 18 over covid escalation which was good times, and i'm currently interviewing for a PM position in the cannabis industry which a recruiter hit me up for as I had no intention of going that route, but eh, money's great & that industry is booming with quarantine shitshow. In the past week I managed to replace an electrical outlet, set up a cat6 coupler between 2 walls, completely replace all components of 2 toilets, replace a ceiling light fixture, and discover that at 33 I'm too fucking old for physical labor as my back has hurt daily for the past 2 weeks & we're still a week out from fully moving.
Until the next post in however many months/years.
Bones mended and all?
Quote from: proword on June 16, 2020, 10:56:25 PM
Bones mended and all?
That with regards to my climbing accident 50 foot plummet? Last month was 3 year anniversary, Probably have 80% of my strength back in my right arm at this point, Occasionally still get nerve tingle in my right bicep but was told that'd take years to heal fully, cuz nerve damage is a bitch. If you were replying to someone else, nevermind.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
ATTN:LMNO - https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=141&v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg
That is all.
This has always been in my view the only reason to allow humans.
Quote from: Da6s on June 16, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: proword on June 16, 2020, 10:56:25 PM
Bones mended and all?
That with regards to my climbing accident 50 foot plummet? Last month was 3 year anniversary, Probably have 80% of my strength back in my right arm at this point, Occasionally still get nerve tingle in my right bicep but was told that'd take years to heal fully, cuz nerve damage is a bitch. If you were replying to someone else, nevermind.
Congratulations! It's not linear, but yes, I can do things now that I couldn't before and I kept all 17 screws so
Quote from: Da6s on June 16, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: proword on June 16, 2020, 10:56:25 PM
Bones mended and all?
That with regards to my climbing accident 50 foot plummet? Last month was 3 year anniversary, Probably have 80% of my strength back in my right arm at this point, Occasionally still get nerve tingle in my right bicep but was told that'd take years to heal fully, cuz nerve damage is a bitch. If you were replying to someone else, nevermind.
Hey Dags!
good to hear from you. That's crazy that you're only at 80% after all this time, but then again, it's a little crazy that you're alive to begin with!
sorry to hear about the honeymoon though -- at least you got married before the lockdown though. I have to punt my wedding to 2021.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 10, 2020, 02:32:07 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 09, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on June 09, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
some places!
but all the points mocking me are pretty on point :lol: it's fairly ridiculous. i just miss being around horses and being active and all that. if i'm being honest it's just an idea i cling to when i'm hungry and there's not enough food in the house for both me and the kid.
obviously, they're the one who gets to eat.
Quote from: Da6s on June 16, 2020, 10:48:54 PM
Glad some of you fuckers are still kicking around. No idea what was in my last life update but let's see, I'm married now, just bought a condo in a denver suburb because I was paying the same amount in rent and pissed off about it, had my honeymoon in japan for sakura aborted 4 days in of 18 over covid escalation which was good times, and i'm currently interviewing for a PM position in the cannabis industry which a recruiter hit me up for as I had no intention of going that route, but eh, money's great & that industry is booming with quarantine shitshow. In the past week I managed to replace an electrical outlet, set up a cat6 coupler between 2 walls, completely replace all components of 2 toilets, replace a ceiling light fixture, and discover that at 33 I'm too fucking old for physical labor as my back has hurt daily for the past 2 weeks & we're still a week out from fully moving.
Until the next post in however many months/years.
congombolations!
Field Report x UFO relations:
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On a silent ballistic legacy
+ Implication to draw forces
away from rocketry
And other painted shells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUZSMSRopfI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUZSMSRopfI)
Or, how I got them to stop traumatizing the locals with explosive light shows.
awwww come on Warren Ellis, you should know better
https://twitter.com/Foxtongue/status/1273004980438355968
https://twitter.com/Theremina/status/1272956548931706880
Quote from: Cramulus on June 17, 2020, 07:33:02 PM
awwww come on Warren Ellis, you should know better
https://twitter.com/Foxtongue/status/1273004980438355968
https://twitter.com/Theremina/status/1272956548931706880
Everything is awful :cry:
What in the ever living fuck is that.
ETA
QuoteYou are heartily welcome to eat the corn directly out of my shit.
Flipping twitter, lovely landscape
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
Quote from: Faust on June 17, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
Yeah, also I'd be more inclined to hate his guts if someone said "no" and he did shit anyway.
I don't know enough details to know if that occurred. I will also wait to see more.
Quote from: Faust on June 17, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences? because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought, are going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED, then you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else. how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant? how dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
Erasing this cause at least 4/5ths of it was due to misplaced fucking outrage from elsewhere, still think the fact there are literal fucking screenshots of nazis planning on how to get left wingers cancelled and abandoned by the community for being sex pests means taking a passive view is better rn
reply redacted. i didn't know there were such screenshots. i apologize for saying what i said to you, should you have seen it. i would like to moderate what i said to faust but i'm still very pissed off and upset about the mentality like that that does exist i'm not sure yet how to go about it.
Three months ago if I was as unstable as I am now I would have replied much the same but things are way worse than they have any right to be and I don't have the energy to to do the due diligence of checking post histories and join dates and connecting them to identities rn.
Honestly if an actual news outlet gets their hands on it that isn't a fucking tabloid or Sinclair owned then ill trust their reporting cause they actually vet claims made to them, but right now I can't find enough supporting information to be sure of anything other than "some people are sure saying some shit"
that's totally fair, and honestly i was gone for a long time and while i was active here, i didn't really get my identity, or know it was a thing.
if an actual news outlet reported something without misrepresenting the facts for THE RATINGS i think i'd die of shock.
Read the whole article and not just the headline and intro paragraph, the meaningful bits are split between the second, third and fifth paragraphs because they lead with juicy bullshit, have to correct their reporting, reinforce that it's not just baseless speculation despite having to correct it, and finally put it in plain English for the lawyers
Quote from: Freeky on June 17, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences? because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought, are going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED, then you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else. how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant? how dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
Oh, the fucking drama.
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:43:43 AM
Erasing this cause at least 4/5ths of it was due to misplaced fucking outrage from elsewhere, still think the fact there are literal fucking screenshots of nazis planning on how to get left wingers cancelled and abandoned by the community for being sex pests means taking a passive view is better rn
That's what happened to George Takei.
Or almost happened.
Quote from: Freeky on June 18, 2020, 01:00:57 AM
reply redacted. i didn't know there were such screenshots.
You never looked.
Quotei apologize for saying what i said to you, should you have seen it. i would like to moderate what i said to faust but i'm still very pissed off and upset about the mentality like that that does exist i'm not sure yet how to go about it.
So what?
So, my youngest kid just got out of the hospital after a change in his anti-depression meds fucked up his heartbeat and breathing.
He's gonna be okay, but it was a hell of a scare.
Quote from: Freeky on June 17, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 17, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences? because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought, are going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED, then you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else. how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant? how dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.
If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.
If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
So, my youngest kid just got out of the hospital after a change in his anti-depression meds fucked up his heartbeat and breathing.
He's gonna be okay, but it was a hell of a scare.
I'm glad he will be ok. have experienced similar but different problems with such meds on a couple occasions.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
So, my youngest kid just got out of the hospital after a change in his anti-depression meds fucked up his heartbeat and breathing.
He's gonna be okay, but it was a hell of a scare.
Poor kid, hope he is feeling better soon
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
So, my youngest kid just got out of the hospital after a change in his anti-depression meds fucked up his heartbeat and breathing.
He's gonna be okay, but it was a hell of a scare.
Poor kid, hope he is feeling better soon
He is on bedrest for a week, but is feeling much better, thanks.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on June 18, 2020, 09:53:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
So, my youngest kid just got out of the hospital after a change in his anti-depression meds fucked up his heartbeat and breathing.
He's gonna be okay, but it was a hell of a scare.
I'm glad he will be ok. have experienced similar but different problems with such meds on a couple occasions.
Same, on different meds, but nothing like this.
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 05:11:56 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 17, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 17, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences? because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought, are going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED, then you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else. how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant? how dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.
If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.
If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of
What is being
asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
Sentence first; verdict afterwards!
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 18, 2020, 02:59:59 PM
Sentence first; verdict afterwards!
All ways are Tumblr's ways. :lol:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 05:11:56 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 17, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 17, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
As someone I admire a lot I am going to wait for his statement on this.
A writer being a sleeze with his fans is gross, and its possible. but some of the things being said on that thread dont add up.
While Ellis was a literary artistic success in the field of comic books he could never "make or break an aspiring career", he has made a modest living on his career as a writer but...
Just from reading around he has operated on the commercial perifery of the comics industry with a lot of indy work, the big two have always maintained contracts which mean the writer does not get rich, the first time that has happened for him ironically (despite an awesome catalogue of work) is when he made castlevenia a year ago.
He was not a publisher, and has had run ins with publishers like hellblazer ending because of the school shooting issue, he is not an industry darling like many other writers.
At best he could offer recommendation for writers and artists, but he was never in a position of control, Not the equivalent of a producer like the others seen in #metoo.
Not a reciprocal arrangement where any of the womens careers depended on his opinion of them. This is not #metoo.
Seperately, if the allegations are true, what im seeing is a man who exploited his fanbase cashing in on their admiration of him, but many of whom also happen to be his social group. It sucks if he did that, and sad they were devastated when he dropped them and moved on.
That would be disgusting and selfish and would lower my opinion of him as a person
I will wait and see what other stories come out and I want his side of the story too before I have an opinion one way or another
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences? because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought, are going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED, then you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else. how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant? how dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.
If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.
If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of
What is being asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
That's what I'm not liking about this, I said I reserve judgement, and question "Coercive control", because he was not in a position of control for them, not an employer, at best someone who could plug theirs stuff to his audience. I'm open to the information on it.
There are people who I would be interested in their opinion on it like zoetica (an artist I was following who did show up in warrens stuff) who have responded since substantiating some of what is being said, I'd value her opinion a lot. She had not responded... 15 hours ago, when I said I will wait and see.
The stories I am reading about is how he has been incredibly manipulative, and that he has been dating his fans (which is gross). I'm what to see what they describe as coercive control, and if he abused his position as a writer to do that, or was he just a manipulative boyfriend.
I'm not going to engage in what Freeky describes as victim blaming, and I am sure comic fans are causing these girls unfair abuse. I am not one of those fans, but I am holding them to a standard to be clear as to what happened, because there is hyperbole in the descriptions: as one person points out the description of preying on a naive doe eyed young girl, who was 27 when she alleges he led her on, manipulated her and then dropped her all of a sudden.
It's an emotional issue, but I react badly to being told I have to take a side prior to at least hearing from the person who's personal and career development I've followed for the last 15 years.
And it may be my monkey reflex, but being told to think a certain way makes me want to throw my toys out of the pram.
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 04:00:06 PM
The stories I am reading about is how he has been incredibly manipulative, and that he has been dating his fans (which is gross). I'm what to see what they describe as coercive control, and if he abused his position as a writer to do that, or was he just a manipulative boyfriend.
While I'm not disagreeing with that statement, why is a writer dating a fan in and of itself gross?
QuoteI'm not going to engage in what Freeky describes as victim blaming, and I am sure comic fans are causing these girls unfair abuse. I am not one of those fans, but I am holding them to a standard to be clear as to what happened, because there is hyperbole in the descriptions: as one person points out the description of preying on a naive doe eyed young girl, who was 27 when she alleges he led her on, manipulated her and then dropped her all of a sudden.
Freeky has memorized the formula. She even went into "performative allies" as if she is anything ELSE (while a the exact same time hijacking a conversation about Altered's position to talk about how "fragile" she (freeky) is.), so there is no need to justify your response to me; I agree with you. To there's that.
QuoteIt's an emotional issue, but I react badly to being told I have to take a side prior to at least hearing from the person who's personal and career development I've followed for the last 15 years.
And it may be my monkey reflex, but being told to think a certain way makes me want to throw my toys out of the pram.
Exactly. Precisely.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:54:05 PMWhat is being asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
Nobody in this forum, as far as I know, has the authority to convict anyone.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:54:05 PMWhat is being asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
Nobody in this forum, as far as I know, has the authority to convict anyone.
You're correct. So I'm just going to be one of those non-performative non-allies by assuming he's innocent until his guilt is proven.
I'm an asshole that way.
Here's a bit on it. The word coercion is thrown around as an accusation, but the details seem to indicate that he was just an Alty-style user. Which ain't good, assuming it's true, but it's not Bill Cosby level or even close to it.
http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/warren-ellis-allegations/
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 04:00:06 PM
The stories I am reading about is how he has been incredibly manipulative, and that he has been dating his fans (which is gross). I'm what to see what they describe as coercive control, and if he abused his position as a writer to do that, or was he just a manipulative boyfriend.
While I'm not disagreeing with that statement, why is a writer dating a fan in and of itself gross?
Oh its not a problem if the motives are ok, its depends if the motivation is genuine romance, or looking to bang and discard them. The latter is gross cult leader stuff.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:54:05 PMWhat is being asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
Nobody in this forum, as far as I know, has the authority to convict anyone.
No, just shun, which is perfectly fine, with good reason. But it's polite to at least want to hear from the person who the accusations are being leveled at.
Quote from: Freeky on June 17, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
quick question, what the fuck do any of these women have to gain by lying about their experiences?
Not in the scope of what I have said, I have not suggested they have lied about their experiences.
Quote
because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought,
I am a member of that forum with my own opinions, being an admin has no bearing in the conversation, furthermore I have gone out of my way to neglect any admin tasks duties or responsibilities.
Quoteare going to fucking say well it's not the same because he doesn't have as much pull and therefore it's all possibly bullshit and i'll wait until ONE PERSON says something against ALL THESE WOMEN HE FUCKING VICTIMIZED
Yes, generally waiting for someone who is accused of something to at least respond is the right thing to do, ESPECIALLY IF HE HAS VICTIMIZED PEOPLE, as it legitimises their complaints.
Quotethen you can damn well be sure the rabid fanboys are coming out of the woodwork to make rape threats, death threats, offer mockery and victim blaming, tell them to kill themselves, call them liars, and who knows what else.
For sure, gamergate and comic fans will have a big overlap. They are vicious little shits, but that doesn't automatically mean those making the accusations are right by virtue of the abuse they received from these. I am interested in what they have to say, as much if not more so than the person they are accusing. I probably care about their opinion of Ellis far more than the fan boys you are describing.
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how fucking dare you fall into this trap of "i love this person's work so i don't want to believe it and i'll let his one privileged voice make an attempt to Make It Better somehow" when there are possibly dozens of victimized and traumatized young women coming forward in a culture where victim shaming and blaming is still disgustingly rampant?
How the fuck dare you assume that by wanting to hear that persons side of the story I am going to absolve them of this If I think they did. Furthermore how the fuck dare you put a culture of victim shaming and blaming on my doorstep, I am not responsible for other peoples shameful behavior, I didn't build this dumpster fire of a world, all I do is live in it.
Quotehow dare you, when you're so much better than that? it doesn't matter that he's not as rich or famous or influential as movie producers or politicians, he still used his platform to take advantage of people, it's still Not Oh-Fucking-Kay.
And that is the crux of the matter, I want clarity and a response on what is the accusation is. Because I see "coercion and control" and "manipulation and exploitation" are the accusations here. It is what I want to know more about: The first is reprehensible and part of the systemic problem and leveled at the writer, the latter is shitty behavior and leveled at the person.
Now it remains to be seen if it is the former, latter, both, whatever.
But my point was: if it is the former then specifics of what those are should be clear, because he was not in the direct path of their professional development, he was a writer not a decision maker. In contrast Weinstein wielded coercive control to make and break unfortunate women who crossed his path.
If the same claim is at Ellis if it were being coerced for plugs on his email or blog, then they got short changed. I am not saying the same thing about Manipulation and exploitation though, and based on what I am reading, from other people I've trusted for a long time, that part is probable.
my stance is to trust, but verify
by default, I believe women when they come forward with these things
maybe more data will change my mind and convince me that this is a baseless hit-job,
but I'll wait for that to appear before considering it
I agree that 'having sex with fans' isn't a problem in of itself (and if it is, the music industry is fucked), but if they're much younger than him? and if he's enticing them by giving them career advice and access to industry people? And then abandoning them as soon as he gets off? that's gross.
from what we know so far -- on the #metoo scale, I'd put this somewhere in the ballpark of Louis CK. Nobody's consent was violated, but he's left a long trail of sad, confused women who feel like he used his status and rep to take advantage of them.
the real clincher?
Will Ellis say "these women are all lying for personal gain"
or "I was an asshole, I'm sorry, and I'd like to be better" ?
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 04:48:49 PMQuote
because if you, admins on a forum that takes pride in rational thought,
I am a member of that forum with my own opinions, being an admin has no bearing in the conversation, furthermore I have gone out of my way to neglect any admin tasks duties or responsibilities.
Now she can't fite teh power :cry:
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 04:59:47 PM
my stance is to trust, but verify
by default, I believe women when they come forward with these things
maybe more data will change my mind and convince me that this is a baseless hit-job,
but I'll wait for that to appear before considering it
I agree that 'having sex with fans' isn't a problem in of itself (and if it is, the music industry is fucked), but if they're much younger than him? and if he's enticing them by giving them career advice and access to industry people? And then abandoning them as soon as he gets off? that's gross.
from what we know so far -- on the #metoo scale, I'd put this somewhere in the ballpark of Louis CK. Nobody's consent was violated, but he's left a long trail of sad, confused women who feel like he used his status and rep to take advantage of them.
the real clincher?
Will Ellis say "these women are all lying for personal gain"
or "I was an asshole, I'm sorry, and I'd like to be better" ?
Knowing Warren Ellis, his response will not resemble either of those two possibilities.
My money is either on
"Go fuck yourself" and
"I am in fact an asshole and have never promised otherwise."
He still wants a career, so it's probably the second.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:54:05 PMWhat is being asked demanded is a conviction without trial.
Nobody in this forum, as far as I know, has the authority to convict anyone.
Yes we do, you don't know us. By the way, "Discordia is not nice", just not in the 4-chan sense.
Quote from: The Johnny on June 18, 2020, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 04:04:47 PMNobody in this forum, as far as I know, has the authority to convict anyone.
Yes we do, you don't know us.
Okay, slightly less cryptically: nobody in this conversation is convicting anyone. Believing victims and taking sexual assault seriously, even concluding that the guy probably did it, is not relevant to any legal shit that happens (and probably won't). Calling it a trial, or any consensus we reach (which we probably won't) a conviction is bizarre hyperbole, and ultimately benefits sexual predators by upholding ideas about women making fake accusations/asking for it/it's a grey area/etc.
QuoteBy the way, "Discordia is not nice", just not in the 4-chan sense.
You don't need to explain Discordianism to me, thanks.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 07:56:14 PM
Okay, slightly less cryptically: nobody in this conversation is convicting anyone. Believing victims and taking sexual assault seriously, even concluding that the guy probably did it, is not relevant to any legal shit that happens (and probably won't). Calling it a trial, or any consensus we reach (which we probably won't) a conviction is bizarre hyperbole, and ultimately benefits sexual predators by upholding ideas about women making fake accusations/asking for it/it's a grey area/etc.
If you choose to live in a reality tunnel where an accusation in and of itself means guilt, you go right ahead and do that. I mean, it has the moral sense of the Salem witch trials, but you do you.
Just don't expect most folks here to begin competing in the moral authority Olympics with you, or to have the response to the tumblr wave that you may be used to.
If this board had a motto (aside from "fuck you, Jack"), it would be "See the world the way it
really is," and blanket statements of who is guilty and who should be believed don't help in that. You are in fact allowing yourself to be programmed to
not think upon the receipt of certain data. And THAT, my good man, is SIN. And not the good kind of sin, either. It's the kind of sin that informs people who decide that a populist is a good idea for a leader. It's the kind of sin that leads to libertarianism and all other manner of isms.
Do you think I should have waited to hear Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby's take before I made up my mind?
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
Do you think I should have waited to hear Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby's take before I made up my mind?
Nope. However, it would be good to hear evidence. In the case of those two assholes, that evidence was forthcoming and they were convicted.
Not automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:51:42 PMNot automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Well, I agree. The difference seems to be that I consider the testimony of multiple women to be compelling evidence.
After all, it wouldn't be rational to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they're guilty of lying, would it
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:51:42 PMNot automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Well, I agree. The difference seems to be that I consider the testimony of multiple women to be compelling evidence.
After all, it wouldn't be rational to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they're guilty of lying, would it
I do not accept the testimony of an accuser in itself to be enough evidence for anything at all.
And I don't automatically assume they're lying. I assume that there is a
possibility that any witness or even that a group of witnesses is lying or mistaken. If you feel that isn't reasonable, I invite you to sit in the gallery during a felony trial of a person of color in Illinois.
Another example would be the point Faust brought up, that the alt-right learned years ago that they can cause the left to devour itself just by making a few accusations of sexual conduct about any given target. And the left gallops right off to do exactly that.
Let's look at the example at hand. Warren Ellis has been very loudly screaming about the dangers of fascism since 1996. Now he stands accused of at the very least being a sociopathic user.
Is he? Possibly. He's an asshole, and he hasn't got much use for people in general.
Is it possible that he has been targeted in the same way George Takei was? I would say that it is not likely, but possible.
So the jury is still out.
Another example would be the accusations against Biden by Tara Reid. Reid is a grifter and a serial accuser, who has lied under oath.
Does this mean I think her accusations of Biden are false? No. I think they are most likely false, but just being a dishonest dirtbag doesn't mean she wasn't
actually assaulted. My gut tells me she would have accused Sanders if Sanders had won the primary in the same manner and at the same exact time as she accused Biden, but my gut isn't
enough to either believe her or dismiss her.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:51:42 PMNot automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Well, I agree. The difference seems to be that I consider the testimony of multiple women to be compelling evidence.
After all, it wouldn't be rational to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they're guilty of lying, would it
Two things:
One, do we know these are real people? Are names attached? Has a trustworthy third party vetted them to see that at the bare minimum they're more than Nazi socks? Considering this is a real thing that's really happening, if I have to question the reality of a person's existence I cannot equally give their statements weight. Reality comes first.
Two, do we have anything to say, IF these people exist, that these people are specifically UNtrustworthy? Again, reality comes first: once people are proven to exist I believe them more. (And this is enough people that if they do indeed have independently verifiable existence the sheer numbers are worth more consideration than the possibility of any lies.)
I have not seen evidence of real people yet. I might be in a bubble of no-info, though, and I admit I haven't done the digging myself, kind of in a fucking crisis. If someone has evidence of real people rather than anonymous usernames on the Internet, my default switches from "probably fake" to "probably true".
Because in the end, reality comes first.
I think Howl, Faust and others disagree with me on this, but the fact is that it's my approach, it has a logical basis, and I've never had cause to regret it.
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:51:42 PMNot automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Well, I agree. The difference seems to be that I consider the testimony of multiple women to be compelling evidence.
After all, it wouldn't be rational to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they're guilty of lying, would it
Two things:
One, do we know these are real people? Are names attached? Has a trustworthy third party vetted them to see that at the bare minimum they're more than Nazi socks? Considering this is a real thing that's really happening, if I have to question the reality of a person's existence I cannot equally give their statements weight. Reality comes first.
Two, do we have anything to say, IF these people exist, that these people are specifically UNtrustworthy? Again, reality comes first: once people are proven to exist I believe them more. (And this is enough people that if they do indeed have independently verifiable existence the sheer numbers are worth more consideration than the possibility of any lies.)
I have not seen evidence of real people yet. I might be in a bubble of no-info, though, and I admit I haven't done the digging myself, kind of in a fucking crisis. If someone has evidence of real people rather than anonymous usernames on the Internet, my default switches from "probably fake" to "probably true".
Because in the end, reality comes first.
I think Howl, Faust and others disagree with me on this, but the fact is that it's my approach, it has a logical basis, and I've never had cause to regret it.
There are many cases that I believe are probably true. Probably just isn't enough.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
If this board had a motto (aside from "fuck you, Jack"), it would be "See the world the way it really is,"
I feel like this forum is about how whenever someone frames their personal position as "the way the world
really is", they have their thumb in the shot.
Was there any evidence about Cosby & Weinstein that wasn't accuser testimony? All the evidence I read about was stuff like "this proves that on the night in question, he was at the same party as his accuser". But maybe I'm missing it, I didn't follow those trials at all. I mean, the common problem in these things is that there might not be any "hard, damning evidence" -- it becomes a he-said-she-said and we believe whoever we think is more trustworthy. And what we're talking about with Ellis isn't a criminal claim, it's that he's been an asshole to a lot of women. Which doesn't even seem that out of character. Maybe he'll respond and add some important missing context, maybe not.
With Tara Reid, there's reason to doubt her credibility. That's the "and verify" in "trust and verify". But if 20 people came forward about Biden, it would seem like less of a fluke. I probably wouldn't wait to hear all 20 stories, it's too much of a pattern.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
If this board had a motto (aside from "fuck you, Jack"), it would be "See the world the way it really is,"
I feel like this forum is about how whenever someone frames their personal position as "the way the world really is", they have their thumb in the shot.
Not this kid. My thumb is squarely up my arse where it belongs.
QuoteWas there any evidence about Cosby & Weinstein that wasn't accuser testimony? All the evidence I read about was stuff like "this proves that on the night in question, he was at the same party as his accuser". But maybe I'm missing it, I didn't follow those trials at all. I mean, the common problem in these things is that there might not be any "hard, damning evidence" -- it becomes a he-said-she-said and we believe whoever we think is more trustworthy. And what we're talking about with Ellis isn't a criminal claim, it's that he's been an asshole to a lot of women. Which doesn't even seem that out of character. Maybe he'll respond and add some important missing context, maybe not.
With Tara Reid, there's reason to doubt her credibility. That's the "and verify" in "trust and verify". But if 20 people came forward about Biden, it would seem like less of a fluke. I probably wouldn't wait to hear all 20 stories, it's too much of a pattern.
Cosby admitted, on the stand, that he fed women Quaaludes and then took a yes or a non-response as a yes.
Which sort of fits the very textbook definition of rape.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36371741
Weinstien convicted himself with his emails.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:44:10 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
If this board had a motto (aside from "fuck you, Jack"), it would be "See the world the way it really is,"
I feel like this forum is about how whenever someone frames their personal position as "the way the world really is", they have their thumb in the shot.
Not this kid. My thumb is squarely up my arse where it belongs.
:lulz:
*grunting, sweating*Let me tell you the TRUTH .... about how the world ... really is ....
*hits the prostate*(https://media2.giphy.com/media/mz8St9Mv1DgQ62sojI/giphy.gif)
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QuoteWas there any evidence about Cosby & Weinstein that wasn't accuser testimony? All the evidence I read about was stuff like "this proves that on the night in question, he was at the same party as his accuser". But maybe I'm missing it, I didn't follow those trials at all. I mean, the common problem in these things is that there might not be any "hard, damning evidence" -- it becomes a he-said-she-said and we believe whoever we think is more trustworthy. And what we're talking about with Ellis isn't a criminal claim, it's that he's been an asshole to a lot of women. Which doesn't even seem that out of character. Maybe he'll respond and add some important missing context, maybe not.
With Tara Reid, there's reason to doubt her credibility. That's the "and verify" in "trust and verify". But if 20 people came forward about Biden, it would seem like less of a fluke. I probably wouldn't wait to hear all 20 stories, it's too much of a pattern.
Cosby admitted, on the stand, that he fed women Quaaludes and then took a yes or a non-response as a yes.
Which sort of fits the very textbook definition of rape.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36371741
Weinstien convicted himself with his emails.
fair enough! I wonder if/when the Ellis accusers will release the text logs they claim to have
If they do, and any actual coercion has taken place, I guess he will join Hunter Thompson on the list of "writers I used to read."
But let me ask you this, concerning looking at the world:
If you were accused of crimes you didn't commit, would you prefer jurors who believe the victim, or jurors who demand that the prosecution produce actual evidence of your alleged crimes?
Because looking at this conversation as a guide to how people would react on that jury, you're going to prison any which way.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
Do you think I should have waited to hear Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby's take before I made up my mind?
To me that gets into the horrible subjective severity of what happened, serial rape. In those cases with the number of women the multiple rapes, the drugs, the ruining of lives, I was still interested in what they have to say, but you have to err on the side of caution with such awful accusations.
No one is accusing ellis of being a rapist from what I can see. As you said on the scale its closer to luis ck than crosby, neighter ellis or luis are accused of being rapists, everything was concentual, but tainted by manipulation and use and discard dirtbagness
And its not just about the day in court either, I can draw my own conclusions from the persons statement.
For instance prince Andrew, before the interview I thought maybe he could have just been swept up in epstiens mess. Then I watched the interview and I was like "he did that shit"
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 10:16:20 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
Do you think I should have waited to hear Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby's take before I made up my mind?
To me that gets into the horrible subjective severity of what happened, serial rape. In those cases with the number of women the multiple rapes, the drugs, the ruining of lives, I was still interested in what they have to say, but you have to err on the side of caution with such awful accusations.
No one is accusing ellis of being a rapist from what I can see. As you said on the scale its closer to luis ck than crosby, neighter ellis or luis are accused of being rapists, everything was concentual, but tainted by manipulation and use and discard dirtbagness
And its not just about the day in court either, I can draw my own conclusions from the persons statement.
For instance prince Andrew, before the interview I thought maybe he could jave just been swept up in epstiens mess. Then I watched the interview and I was like "he did that shit"
If he used actual coercion, I don't make any distinction.
If they felt that, as one put it, "He could help my career, how could I say no?" , that isn't coercion.
If he told them "Go along with this or you can forget headlining at that con," then he's a rapist.
I have read enough of his nonfiction writing to believe that he is an arrogant shithead who happens to be a good writer. I also believe that he'd run around on his SO, because I recognize the type...But those aren't felonies. They're just the regular fucked up behaviors of dumbass primates, and I am neither qualified nor paid to judge them.
Yeah, hence my distinction, coersion as a writer, or manipulative deadbeat person.
The first means he shouldnt work again, the second does not
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
If they do, and any actual coercion has taken place, I guess he will join Hunter Thompson on the list of "writers I used to read."
Up to you. I still read Lovecraft, Frank Herbert, etc... It's a messy world and you're not gonna find an island with no shit on it.
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But let me ask you this, concerning looking at the world:
If you were accused of crimes you didn't commit, would you prefer jurors who believe the victim, or jurors who demand that the prosecution produce actual evidence of your alleged crimes?
Because looking at this conversation, you're going to prison any which way.
I mean, I think I'd want a jury that believes me no matter what side I was on :p
In general, I think it's better for a bunch of guilty people to go free than for one innocent person to go to jail.
but I also don't think my opinion about whether or not Warren Ellis is an asshole needs the same rigor as a criminal trial.
Women who were abused in some way have an enormous burden of proof in order to make any consequences land. Merely making the accusation is often humiliating, and a huge risk to career and reputation. During the #MeToo buzz, learning how many of these incidents go without any consequences whatsoever shifted me to a "Trust, then verify" stance." It seems like the opposite, "mistrust until you're convinced" often lets people off the hook. For decades, in Weinstein and Cosby's case! I'll believe these women until I encounter something that would make me question that. Abusers in positions of power already have a home-field advantage.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
If they do, and any actual coercion has taken place, I guess he will join Hunter Thompson on the list of "writers I used to read."
Up to you. I still read Lovecraft, Frank Herbert, etc... It's a messy world and you're not gonna find an island with no shit on it.
This is true. But once I find out someone brutalized their spouse, their work just stops mattering.
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I mean, I think I'd want a jury that believes me no matter what side I was on :p
In general, I think it's better for a bunch of guilty people to go free than for one innocent person to go to jail.
but I also don't think my opinion about whether or not Warren Ellis is an asshole needs the same rigor as a criminal trial.
The way people act in everyday life is how they're going to act on a jury. Principles don't change because they're sitting in a box.
QuoteWomen who were abused in some way have an enormous burden of proof in order to make any consequences land. Merely making the accusation is often humiliating, and a huge risk to career and reputation. During the #MeToo buzz, learning how many of these incidents go without any consequences whatsoever shifted me to a "Trust, then verify" stance." It seems like the opposite, "mistrust until you're convinced" often lets people off the hook. For decades, in Weinstein and Cosby's case! I'll believe these women until I encounter something that would make me question that. Abusers in positions of power already have a home-field advantage.
And it took the alt-right about 30 seconds to weaponize that, and the left falls for it like clockwork.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 10:31:58 PM
QuoteWomen who were abused in some way have an enormous burden of proof in order to make any consequences land. Merely making the accusation is often humiliating, and a huge risk to career and reputation. During the #MeToo buzz, learning how many of these incidents go without any consequences whatsoever shifted me to a "Trust, then verify" stance." It seems like the opposite, "mistrust until you're convinced" often lets people off the hook. For decades, in Weinstein and Cosby's case! I'll believe these women until I encounter something that would make me question that. Abusers in positions of power already have a home-field advantage.
And it took the alt-right about 30 seconds to weaponize that, and the left falls for it like clockwork.
sure, but are you saying these women accusing Ellis are part of the alt-right?
or are you saying that "trust but verify" is cancelled because sometimes people make fake accusations?
Quote Women who were abused in some way have an enormous burden of proof in order to make any consequences [/size]
It's also problematic just to bring the issue forth, let alone to make it public AND with support. This not statistical inference but from being "in the rooms" which is difficult to transpose onto digital medium for me. Plus I can just barely vote, so.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 10:31:58 PM
QuoteWomen who were abused in some way have an enormous burden of proof in order to make any consequences land. Merely making the accusation is often humiliating, and a huge risk to career and reputation. During the #MeToo buzz, learning how many of these incidents go without any consequences whatsoever shifted me to a "Trust, then verify" stance." It seems like the opposite, "mistrust until you're convinced" often lets people off the hook. For decades, in Weinstein and Cosby's case! I'll believe these women until I encounter something that would make me question that. Abusers in positions of power already have a home-field advantage.
And it took the alt-right about 30 seconds to weaponize that, and the left falls for it like clockwork.
sure, but are you saying these women accusing Ellis are part of the alt-right?
or are you saying that "trust but verify" is cancelled because sometimes people make fake accusations?
I addressed this upthread. It's possible, but not really likely at all.
And I don't subscribe to "trust but verify," I prefer "listen and investigate." There is a subtle, but very real difference.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
If they do, and any actual coercion has taken place, I guess he will join Hunter Thompson on the list of "writers I used to read."
Up to you. I still read Lovecraft, Frank Herbert, etc... It's a messy world and you're not gonna find an island with no shit on it.
The consumption of media by flawed artists is a fickle one. I read burroughs not in spite of the horrible life he led, but because of it. Shot his wife, slept with a 15 year old rent boy, got his alcoholic son back on drink until the liver failure.
But then listening to seal bothers me becUse he peed on a girl
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 10:52:40 PM
The consumption of media by flawed artists is a fickle one. I read burroughs not in spite of the horrible life he led, but because of it. Shot his wife, slept with a 15 year old rent boy, got his alcoholic son back on drink until the liver failure.
But then listening to seal bothers me becUse he peed on a girl
wait --- what?? :lulz: :lulz:
Sorry I am overtired and brain dead, It was R kelly peed on the girl
I was thinking kiss from a rose batman and not i believe i can fly and space jam
I can't listen to Lostprophets after what happened. I tried, but I really can't.
I can handle Lovecraft etc but obviously that's a magnitude of difference even from that. As for R Kelly, I don't understand how he still dares show his face in public, let alone continues to be as successful as he does.
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
I didn't like R Kelly's music before he got in trouble for peeing on a kid. I feel like if he were singing about peeing on kids, instead of your usual R&B garbage he might be worth listening to.
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 18, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 08:51:42 PMNot automatically assuming guilt does not mean NOT taking an accusation seriously. It just means you examine the available evidence.
Well, I agree. The difference seems to be that I consider the testimony of multiple women to be compelling evidence.
After all, it wouldn't be rational to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they're guilty of lying, would it
Two things:
One, do we know these are real people? Are names attached? Has a trustworthy third party vetted them to see that at the bare minimum they're more than Nazi socks? Considering this is a real thing that's really happening, if I have to question the reality of a person's existence I cannot equally give their statements weight. Reality comes first.
Two, do we have anything to say, IF these people exist, that these people are specifically UNtrustworthy? Again, reality comes first: once people are proven to exist I believe them more. (And this is enough people that if they do indeed have independently verifiable existence the sheer numbers are worth more consideration than the possibility of any lies.)
I have not seen evidence of real people yet. I might be in a bubble of no-info, though, and I admit I haven't done the digging myself, kind of in a fucking crisis. If someone has evidence of real people rather than anonymous usernames on the Internet, my default switches from "probably fake" to "probably true".
Because in the end, reality comes first.
I think Howl, Faust and others disagree with me on this, but the fact is that it's my approach, it has a logical basis, and I've never had cause to regret it.
I never doubt the people are real, but I dont trust any new people I encounter for a very long time it's somewhat of a character flaw. I assume the worst possible characteristics and work from there.
In this case there was someone I do trust the opinion of, zeoetica https://twitter.com/zoetica who I've followed since about 2008 (its entirely possible I followed her through Warren Ellis recommendations)
When she said "An argument I keep seeing: this is about "consenting adults". No. None of us consented to being manipulated, or to becoming a disposable part of a remote stable. You can not give consent if you don't have the entire picture."
That solidified it in my mind, but I was still waiting to see if Warren would confirm or deny it, and he hasn't denied it, he has said similar to what I originally said, while a literary success, he was not a commercial success until very recently (the money is in TV not comics), and I believe him when he says he didn't realise what he was doing, it doesn't diminish it, but hopefully that means now that he is conscious of his behavior it can improve.
Yeah... I had no familiarity with any of the names I was seeing but Ellis's, and literally not one single person would drop the name of someone they knew independently who was involved in the whole thing. I'm currently worried about survival, so I didn't really have time to go digging. With accusations on anti-fascist figures, my current immediate reaction is "give me one name in this list that you know to be a real person" and then I go from there.
I saw the statement, and I think he couldn't have made a better one. I genuinely think you can attribute "imposter syndrome" to him not realizing the influence he had.
I'm still putting Transmetropolitan away for awhile, and waiting to see how he acts if and when he's no longer in the spotlight. Because that will be what tells the real tale.
Also, I just want to say that I now understand WHY everyone despises Pergamos as much as they do. He isn't just low grade shitty here and there the way I thought, he's actually human garbage. Fuck that man with a rake covered in furious ants.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
Did he admit that he offered to help or threaten to damage a career upon refusal? Because that's the sticking point for me.
Quote from: Pergamos on June 19, 2020, 07:44:22 AM
I didn't like R Kelly's music before he got in trouble for peeing on a kid. I feel like if he were singing about peeing on kids, instead of your usual R&B garbage he might be worth listening to.
:kingmeh:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2020, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
Did he admit that he offered to help or threaten to damage a career upon refusal? Because that's the sticking point for me.
Looking at his statement, he did not admit to coercion.
He has basically admitted to running around on his SO.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2020, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
Did he admit that he offered to help or threaten to damage a career upon refusal? Because that's the sticking point for me.
He used the get out of blanket apologizing for everything, but that initial get out clause of "I had no idea" which has stuck in everyone's craw. Again that one person I watch Zoetica found the apology lacking to put it nicely.
"The truly odious aspect of the Warren Ellis "apology" are the bits about not manipulating anyone. He's engaged in an escalating, decades-long pattern of grooming and 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙘𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 manipulating (often vulnerable) women toward dependence and complete submission."
And
"Warm thanks to everyone who's reached out to offer support and encouragement. The past 48 hours have been... Dark. There are over 50 of us sharing our experiences with Warren Ellis now. Learning the degree of what's been done to some of the others is nothing short of harrowing."
It's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior. I suspect they have more to say on this in response to his damage control attempt.
QuoteIt's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior.
I am going to suck right now but clearly we're going to have to move those goalposts. Instead of having them so far apart that way, how about even less distant but also closer in the other. [and I'm having some urticaria ATM so forgive the worm-speak]
ETA, closer in supporting role, obviously, related perhaps, history at least. I hate myself.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 05:42:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2020, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
Did he admit that he offered to help or threaten to damage a career upon refusal? Because that's the sticking point for me.
He used the get out of blanket apologizing for everything, but that initial get out clause of "I had no idea" which has stuck in everyone's craw. Again that one person I watch Zoetica found the apology lacking to put it nicely.
"The truly odious aspect of the Warren Ellis "apology" are the bits about not manipulating anyone. He's engaged in an escalating, decades-long pattern of grooming and 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙘𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 manipulating (often vulnerable) women toward dependence and complete submission."
And
"Warm thanks to everyone who's reached out to offer support and encouragement. The past 48 hours have been... Dark. There are over 50 of us sharing our experiences with Warren Ellis now. Learning the degree of what's been done to some of the others is nothing short of harrowing."
It's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior. I suspect they have more to say on this in response to his damage control attempt.
I was honestly not aware of the numbers beyond "more than a couple" to "kind of a lot". 50 is ... distressing.
Yeah, I think that kind of colors his work an ugly shade now. Not so much that even the fans are horrid, not yet, but certainly too much for me to personally consume anything by him now.
Quote from: proword on June 19, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
QuoteIt's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior.
I am going to suck right now but clearly we're going to have to move those goalposts. Instead of having them so far apart that way, how about even less distant but also closer in the other. [and I'm having some urticaria ATM so forgive the worm-speak]
ETA, closer in supporting role, obviously, related perhaps, history at least. I hate myself.
Moving goal posts?
I waited for more information and I got it, both from the apology which Im not satisfied with, from a source I trust, and now from what appears to be an overwhelming exploitative pattern. I reserved my opinion and I feel I was right to do so.
I wont be rushed, by freeky or anyone. I am now confident there was a cycle and pattern to this, all that im now curious is if he ever promised access to other writers or industry people. Because as I said before: the former makes him a bad person that people would be justified not to buy his work again, we are at that point.
The latter indicates he should never work again because he exploited his role in a professional capacity.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 10:38:50 PM
Quote from: proword on June 19, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
QuoteIt's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior.
I am going to suck right now but clearly we're going to have to move those goalposts. Instead of having them so far apart that way, how about even less distant but also closer in the other. [and I'm having some urticaria ATM so forgive the worm-speak]
ETA, closer in supporting role, obviously, related perhaps, history at least. I hate myself.
Moving goal posts?
I waited for more information and I got it, both from the apology which Im not satisfied with, from a source I trust, and now from what appears to be an overwhelming exploitative pattern. I reserved my opinion and I feel I was right to do so.
I wont be rushed, by freeky or anyone. I am now confident there was a cycle and pattern to this, all that im now curious is if he ever promised access to other writers or industry people. Because as I said before: the former makes him a bad person that people would be justified not to buy his work again, we are at that point.
The latter indicates he should never work again because he exploited his role in a professional capacity.
The trusted source would be good enough for me, the corroboration of which I"d have to offload of course. Otherwise, my skin's still crawling a bit.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 10:38:50 PM
Quote from: proword on June 19, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
QuoteIt's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior.
I am going to suck right now but clearly we're going to have to move those goalposts. Instead of having them so far apart that way, how about even less distant but also closer in the other. [and I'm having some urticaria ATM so forgive the worm-speak]
ETA, closer in supporting role, obviously, related perhaps, history at least. I hate myself.
Moving goal posts?
I waited for more information and I got it, both from the apology which Im not satisfied with, from a source I trust, and now from what appears to be an overwhelming exploitative pattern. I reserved my opinion and I feel I was right to do so.
I wont be rushed, by freeky or anyone. I am now confident there was a cycle and pattern to this, all that im now curious is if he ever promised access to other writers or industry people. Because as I said before: the former makes him a bad person that people would be justified not to buy his work again, we are at that point.
The latter indicates he should never work again because he exploited his role in a professional capacity.
Same.
But you are arguing with someone who refuses to write a coherent sentence.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2020, 05:09:56 AM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 10:38:50 PM
Quote from: proword on June 19, 2020, 08:18:23 PM
QuoteIt's not one or two, if we are talking 50 women its a deliberate pattern of behavior.
I am going to suck right now but clearly we're going to have to move those goalposts. Instead of having them so far apart that way, how about even less distant but also closer in the other. [and I'm having some urticaria ATM so forgive the worm-speak]
ETA, closer in supporting role, obviously, related perhaps, history at least. I hate myself.
Moving goal posts?
I waited for more information and I got it, both from the apology which Im not satisfied with, from a source I trust, and now from what appears to be an overwhelming exploitative pattern. I reserved my opinion and I feel I was right to do so.
I wont be rushed, by freeky or anyone. I am now confident there was a cycle and pattern to this, all that im now curious is if he ever promised access to other writers or industry people. Because as I said before: the former makes him a bad person that people would be justified not to buy his work again, we are at that point.
The latter indicates he should never work again because he exploited his role in a professional capacity.
Same.
But you are arguing with someone who refuses to write a coherent sentence.
No, I was unable, there is a clear distinction. And there was no argument. I honestly thought that if any numerical product of proof were required, it should not ONLY be coupled to the number of alleged victims, I would like to hear from their acquaintances/relations as well. This qualification would neither be necessary nor sufficient for the task at hand but it would help a stupid primate like me "judge" the situation from different aspects of my CNS. Don't presume to know my intentions, it's not like you.
I cant tell if I'm being insulted, you are a chatroullette bot that gained semi sentience, or both
:lulz:
Look, every perception is a gamble, stop hedging your bets and things should clear up nicely.
Quote from: proword on June 20, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
:lulz:
Look, every perception is a gamble, stop hedging your bets and things should clear up nicely.
Yodaism 2020 champion!
:lol:
Quote from: proword on June 20, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
:lulz:
Look, every perception is a gamble, stop hedging your bets and things should clear up nicely.
I never hedge my bets or gamble, if you are referring to the discussion of the last few days, you'll see I wait until I can draw an informed conclusion
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2020, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: proword on June 20, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
:lulz:
Look, every perception is a gamble, stop hedging your bets and things should clear up nicely.
I never hedge my bets or gamble, if you are referring to the discussion of the last few days, you'll see I wait until I can draw an informed conclusion
I think you got that other discussion covered, which is more than I can say. I was mainly hitting back at:
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2020, 07:25:55 PM
I cant tell if I'm being insulted, you are a chatroullette bot that gained semi sentience, or both
Because that WAS funny AND appreciated given that other actually serious accusation. I like you. Your a funny guy.
Now, if you don't mind, I have work to do :news:
Ok, sorry, I'm tense and grumpy
How's the angel?
[referring to Faust's progeny]
This ones called "Blue Banana"
Quote from: proword on June 20, 2020, 10:31:24 PM
How's the angel?
[referring to Faust's progeny]
Shes happy out, windy in the evenings, lots of smiles and likes being sang Daisy Bell to.
Havent got a good routine on sleep yet, we alternate every second feed and that was fine until last week but being back working full time and up most of the night means my brain has basically turned to sludge
Glad to hear she's happy! It's windy here too, one guy taking advantage fantastically with some sunbeam-like sailboat, whipping about with a bright yellow sail. Otherwise, sorry to hear about the sleep, I can be a dick and look at what I used to take, to catch maybe a few hours that are at least restful without inhibiting necessary responsiveness when required.
welp, my fiance is back in the office
so I'm back to eating lunch shirtless, over the sink
la vida dolce
Please allow me to re-update your firmware, it's "la dolce vita." Not some sweet Spanish waste.waist
ETA
I see what you did there
Sigh, right when my Dad started to sound like a decent human, he got an article about the Junipero Serra statue being taken down and is parroting residents of Idiotsville again.
Earthquakes are always weird. Esp bc we don't normally get them (maybe once a year) and they seem to usually be at night.
Quote from: Trivial on June 23, 2020, 11:02:02 PM
Sigh, right when my Dad started to sound like a decent human, he got an article about the Junipero Serra statue being taken down and is parroting residents of Idiotsville again.
Dude founded nearly half the missions and the missions were a bad time for California Indigenous folks. The fuck. And it's just a statue.
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
that's probably a good thread topic
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
If the flaws are actually depicted in some manner (not sure how that would work in every case), I can see there being benefit. But if it's just a plaque under a regular statue, I would argue it's still glorifying the subject of the statue.
I haven't taken a poll around the board, but I will go on record as stating that I don't believe there is a decent argument against the statue destruction.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
Problem:
If you see a statue of a man, you don't know who, brutalizing another person, what is your take on who that man was, and what it says that there is a statue of him, and especially of him Doing That?
Firstly, the man was either a hero or a monster. The fact there is a statue of him proves the hero part, we don't lionize and celebrate monsters. So whoever he's brutalizing clearly deserves it.
In statues with a power dynamic, the one in charge is always, always the good guy. They're so hard and expensive to produce that there can be no risk of misstatement. I beg you to find a historical example of the inverse: you will not be able to. The closest you can get is purely colonizers and slavers and traitors being venerated for their perceived positive role, everyone else is a symbolic, mythological, or real world hero.
Why?
Statues are an effigy. The depicted figure is metaphorically standing right in front of you, witnessing you just as you are them. Statues on a pedestal are glorified, by the very fact they're on a pedestal. Standing on the ground, they're meant to be naturalistic. Their permanence says "this is how it should be" or "this is how it is."
About the only way you could put these statues on display without glorifying the people they depict is by building a statue jail to contain them, or sculpting a rubbish heap to mold them into. Depicting their horrible actions only makes the statues' very existence more cruel, a louder and harder to ignore taunt to those who were affected by those actions, even indirectly.
I wouldn't mind the statues being put in a "museum of horrible shits from the Confederacy and otherwise", if it were going to be framed that way.
Especially in the case of the confederate "war heroes" statues, most of them were either put up during the 2nd wave of the KKK (early 1900s) or the Civil Rights Era, precisely to snub black people and minorities anyway, so I'm not especially heartbroken to see people reacting as they should to being snubbed: losing their shit and tearing stuff down.
I was picturing Andrew Jackson killing an Indian.
Facial expression can send the correct message.
It doesn't negate the good things he did. But acknowledges the horrors.
Quote from: Hoopla! on June 24, 2020, 07:56:38 PMIf the flaws are actually depicted in some manner (not sure how that would work in every case), I can see there being benefit. But if it’s just a plaque under a regular statue, I would argue it’s still glorifying the subject of the statue.
I haven’t taken a poll around the board, but I will go on record as stating that I don’t believe there is a decent argument against the statue destruction.
Paraguay came to an interesting compromise with this statue of former dictator Alfredo Stroessner:
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D1PR8B/public-monument-with-a-strong-political-message-made-from-the-remains-D1PR8B.jpg)
That's fucking awful.
If I put out a sculpture of a big terrifying dude beating on a child with a stick, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I AGREE WITH THE DUDE BEATING A CHILD. It makes it look like the SOCIETY that accepts this piece being on display agrees with that dude. It makes it look like a land of fucking baby killers.
You literally can't avoid this. The entire point of a statue of a person is that you can mistake them for a person, and that they are a representation of how things should be or how things are. They are visions of the past intended to be carried on into the future.
Putting a statue like you describe up is fucking reprehensible.
Last aimed at Iptuous, not Nyborj. I love that thing, ahahaha.
That is an understandable concern.
It is not possible to make a statue express disdain?
How are we to represent historical figures that were important and influential in all their flawed reality?
I have seen it put forward that all historical statues are unnacceptable... is this true?
I think we should just add "Pissing Calvin" Statues to all the Confederate statues.
I guess the more general question for me, is how do we handle historical figures that did both great and horrible things?
Of course we would hope that great people not do horrible things, but the characteristics that make someone likely to achieve the one, often select for both.
It feels like we should be able to have a nuanced memorialization of our past.
But...Maybe humans are incapable of that.
Personally, I almost agree with that. There are two exceptions, I feel.
When it's a non-specific person, like some sort of anonymous person wearing an Apollo era NASA EVA suit, it's clearly about the moon landings... or whatever historical event the nonspecific person represents. You celebrate the event, not a person, and that is a historical statue that's okay I think.
And a bust or a small statue at the gravesite of an important historical figure I think is about the only value neutral depiction of important people possible. "This person did something of importance, and now they are dead". Giant monuments and statues at four times life size are always going to be idolizing someone, and statues anywhere that isn't their gravesite will as well. But at the grave, they are physically there, you're just revealing them.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
I don't see any need to negotiate, though. There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was. The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.
Tear 'em down.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 08:29:18 PM
I guess the more general question for me, is how do we handle historical figures that did both great and horrible things?
Of course we would hope that great people not do horrible things, but the characteristics that make someone likely to achieve the one, often select for both.
It feels like we should be able to have a nuanced memorialization of our past.
I don't know what that is, but it isn't a plain statue.
And many of the subjects did awful things and
not great things. I'll admit Churchill is probably in the "it's complicated" category, but most Confederate generals probably aren't.
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 24, 2020, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 08:29:18 PM
I guess the more general question for me, is how do we handle historical figures that did both great and horrible things?
Of course we would hope that great people not do horrible things, but the characteristics that make someone likely to achieve the one, often select for both.
It feels like we should be able to have a nuanced memorialization of our past.
I don't know what that is, but it isn't a plain statue.
And many of the subjects did awful things and not great things. I'll admit Churchill is probably in the "it's complicated" category, but most Confederate generals probably aren't.
There isn't much complicated about Churchill. He was a bloody bastard, but he was the bloody bastard that was
needed at that time, on account of the opposition was so much worse.
There is a reason he was voted out immediately after the war.
Native American communities have objected to Columbus statues for decades
to them, it's not just a statue, it's an active poison, a symbol of their role in American history as non-people & as property. It's a reminder that american culture accepts natives as the "bad guys". It's a genocide we're still in denial about.
same with black communities and confederate generals
those generals literally fought against the freedoms they enjoy today, why should any of us tolerate their image in public spaces?
sure, those are complicated figures -- but the question isn't about their merit, it's about why the voices of the marginalized are so deprioritized they're not even part of the discussion.
Right now, we're in a rare political moment where we are able to look at our racist society and go "ew". Recalibrate. This is a rare and precious occurrence. We're lucky if we get one per century. Right now, people have to run with that energy, because it'll vanish shortly. Nobody remembers the Trayvon Martin protests in 2013 -- there were protests in over 100 cities! And nothing changed!
and every bit of progress we make towards an inclusive society is bitterly resisted, tooth and nail.
personally, I don't think any statue has inherent value.. people are lionized during certain points of history, for certain political purposes -- like how Columbus Day really came from the Knights of Columbus trying to get Italians integrated into "white people".
I feel that the political causes of yesteryear should always take a back seat to the political causes of the day.
demolish every single statue if it means we are no longer celebrating slavers and white supremacy
Columbus was a bona fide asshole. You wanna knock down his statue, I'll lend you my sledgehammer.
How do we feel about statues of Abraham Lincoln?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2020, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
I don't see any need to negotiate, though. There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was. The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.
Tear 'em down.
This is a good point. The Confederate statues I would not argue for. They are not considered a touchstone of our national identity, contributing to who we aspire to be. You could argue that they showed bravery in combat, or strategic genius, or loyalty to a cause.... but it wasn't the cause of who we want to be.
So fuck em.
But when we are considering the flawed characters that did layout the framework of what we want to be, I can understand some of the talking points coming out of the red team, as well as those of the blue team.
Cram, I totally agree that this is a precious moment in history right now, and I hope we can use it well.
I've had some of the best conversations lately, and can feel some sweet sweet brain plasticity in myself, and see it in those I talk with.
They took down the statue of Columbus in New Haven CT this morning.
Here are some videos from the conflict that happened before it was torn down. It's hard to watch.
https://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/colmbus/
You've got two groups here, BLM and Italian Boomers.
The Italian Boomers are shouting shit like "Go steal another TV". They throw the first punch. And when the cops get involved, one boomer keeps yelling at the black people "Oh so NOW you LIKE cops?"
The cops yell at the black guy and say "you're causing all of this". Which is absurd, he's basically been standing still and trying to explain himself while people shout him down. Then the cops refuse to take down the information of the white guys who punched him in the back of the head.
This old white guy is explaining to the black guy how Italians used to have it just as bad as blacks :roll:
Black guy says that America was built on slavery, all the white people groan in unison, somebody yells "what's next, you wanna tear down the pyramids?"
another guy tells a BLM protestor that he should really be angry at Spain, since they financed Columbus :?
Then a nonstop train of white people walk up to this black guy, aggressively demand an explanation while pointing in his face, and then talk over him as he tries to explain his position.
if there are some nuanced arguments here, I'm missing it
it's pretty much 100% white people telling black people that their concerns don't count and they don't get a say
Quote from: Cramulus on June 24, 2020, 08:55:06 PMAnd when the cops get involved, one boomer keeps yelling at the black people "Oh so NOW you LIKE cops?"
"oh so you SAY you hate cops when they're summarily executing you for driving infractions, but when they actually do their job you're HAPPY about it? Curious!"
About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.
I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.
(https://kubrick.htvapps.com/vidthumb/images/abraham-lincoln-statue-boston-2-1592169952.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&resize=640:*)
Of course, there's that too....
Those get lots of clicks and spread well digitally.
In large groups we are erecting walls of righteous indignation.
But face to face I see movement. Some non canned thinking.
I've been more able to inject nuance into the conversation with friends and family, and had people admit to culpability that they wouldn't have before.
I'm hoping that these little interactions are playing out with others everywhere in this stew of chaos.
The general chaos will hopefully be opportunity
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.
I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.
(https://kubrick.htvapps.com/vidthumb/images/abraham-lincoln-statue-boston-2-1592169952.jpg?crop=1.00xw:1.00xh;0,0&resize=640:*)
I didn't know about that one. I can see why that one should be removed (or replaced). I was thinking more of the Lincoln memorial, as a counter point to the "
all statues should be removed" idea.
Yeah that statue has always struck me as fucking miserably awful. Like the fact it exists at all is offensive to me.
That said, I've seen a good argument for destroying Lincoln's statues in general: he only freed Confederate slaves and spoke often and loudly in opposition to abolishing slavery. He gets all the credit for it though, when that credit should go to the Black people who fought tooth and nail to be heard. Part of that is the mentality I described before around statues, and so long as we have him depicted as this paternalistic enlightened figure it will keep on happening because people are dipshits.
in a nearby parallel reality, people are tearing down a statue of Robocop, and I'm furious
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on June 24, 2020, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 24, 2020, 08:55:06 PMAnd when the cops get involved, one boomer keeps yelling at the black people "Oh so NOW you LIKE cops?"
"oh so you SAY you hate cops when they're summarily executing you for driving infractions, but when they actually do their job you're HAPPY about it? Curious!"
:lol:
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 08:53:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2020, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
I don't see any need to negotiate, though. There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was. The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.
Tear 'em down.
This is a good point. The Confederate statues I would not argue for. They are not considered a touchstone of our national identity, contributing to who we aspire to be. You could argue that they showed bravery in combat, or strategic genius, or loyalty to a cause.... but it wasn't the cause of who we want to be.
So fuck em.
But when we are considering the flawed characters that did layout the framework of what we want to be, I can understand some of the talking points coming out of the red team, as well as those of the blue team.
The two non-slaver statues that people are railing against are both truly offensive.
One being the lincoln statue above?
I can definitely see that as patronizing!
What's the other?
When the folx spearheading the "vandalizing" these statues are the folx who were subject to the shit monster, I see no reason to not tear them down nor do I see any reason for statues about them in anyway to be built unless those folx are the ones spearheading it.
https://www.lataco.com/serra-statue-chumash-tongva/
Like fuck the spanish missionaries.
Unrelated: I now have 60% VA disability rating.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 09:51:22 PM
One being the lincoln statue above?
I can definitely see that as patronizing!
What's the other?
Teddy Roosevelt and a couple of PoC doing the same fawning thing.
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 05:11:56 AM
No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.
If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.
If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of
you're right. i had a knee-jerk reaction, and it was shitty of me. sorry, faust.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 04:59:47 PM
my stance is to trust, but verify
by default, I believe women when they come forward with these things
this is what i default to, as well, and it's. difficult. for me to face that sometimes i get overzealous in my trust, and negligent in my verify.
then i agreed with everything else, plus
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the real clincher?
Will Ellis say "these women are all lying for personal gain"
or "I was an asshole, I'm sorry, and I'd like to be better" ?
did anything come up? i stepped away from everything because i was being irrational about it.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
oh.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
i heard an opinion from either john oliver, stephen colbert, or possibly treor noah that was basically "we don't have statues up for hitler, but we know what he did." i tend to agree that statues don't promote discussion, they promote admiration by virtue of "wow, that guy got turned into a statue, he must have been important" to your average person who doesn't care about history.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2020, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
I don't see any need to negotiate, though. There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was. The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.
Tear 'em down.
oops, doc beat me
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.
I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.
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gross :vom:
Quote from: Freeky on June 25, 2020, 02:10:26 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.
I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.
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gross :vom:
It's embarrassing. Then my first thought is give ME the smelting contract, I always wanted to work with brass etc. Take a picture for posterity, put it in a book, boom, we're moving forward.
THEN I got scared that if we don't have some kind of a reminder, shit like that MIGHT happen again. So... Museum of Tollerance? Round up all the racist shit und put it into a Museum of Tolerance style thing. You could visit, but it would NOT be fun, joy at all.
My dad's path to Idiotsville goes Sera was Sainted by The Best Pope Ever so Sera is GOOD. Therefore people tearing down statues hate Saints and therefore also God and he's being oppressed for being Christian!
At the very least he hasn't gone the full way there and still tells the anti mask people on his facebook that they are stupid and should feel stupid.
Quote from: Trivial on June 26, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
My dad's path to Idiotsville goes Sera was Sainted by The Best Pope Ever so Sera is GOOD. Therefore people tearing down statues hate Saints and therefore also God and he's being oppressed for being Christian!
Is there precedent for decanonization of a catholic saint? All I could find is that the Church "cleaned up" a few saints back in 1969, but that was because they were either deemed mythical, or too little was known about them.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/saint-saint-kind-demoted/story?id=23477573
I believe they just quietly drop their feast days from the calendar. There's no way, that I'm aware of at least, that they can go about actually removing them, but they can make sure they're forgotten.
I'm not sure if Saint Olga is a saint despite burning a town down using birds or because of it.
[delayed reactio]
I have internet that is mine (well, mine and my wife's) for the first time in 2 years. I am SO happy to be done sharing internet with an entire resort.
Quote from: Trivial on June 26, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
My dad's path to Idiotsville goes Sera was Sainted by The Best Pope Ever so Sera is GOOD. Therefore people tearing down statues hate Saints and therefore also God and he's being oppressed for being Christian!
At the very least he hasn't gone the full way there and still tells the anti mask people on his facebook that they are stupid and should feel stupid.
I mean, as an ex Catholic, Cool Pope is still a fucking Pope and *gestures at the mission and rancheria systems*. Serra did some ugly shit that is still echoing in California. They're just as impoverished as reservations elsewhere.
Nazis at the statehouse today, waving their sonnenrad flag.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 28, 2020, 12:02:13 AM
Nazis at the statehouse today, waving their sonnenrad flag.
I always liked how the black sun symbol looks a bit like a bullseye. That it the only thing I like about it. Heard that yesterday the KKK had some sort of rally in downtown Kenosha just north of Chicago in Wisconsin.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on June 28, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
I always liked how the black sun symbol looks a bit like a bullseye. [...]
Hugo Boss and nazism, and all of Mussolini's art projects... seductive aesthetics of fascism/totalitarianism and all that jazz.
Oh no he was saying it makes the fash look like the targets they are. It's a "kick me" sign, for adults who think they're cool because they hate entire races/cultures/bloodlines.
Quote from: altered on June 28, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Oh no he was saying it makes the fash look like the targets they are. It's a "kick me" sign, for adults who think they're cool because they hate entire races/cultures/bloodlines.
Essentially this. It also marks them out as likely one of the pseudo-mystic types, a "brain" NAZI worth removing from the game so to speak.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on June 28, 2020, 09:28:59 PM
Quote from: altered on June 28, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Oh no he was saying it makes the fash look like the targets they are. It's a "kick me" sign, for adults who think they're cool because they hate entire races/cultures/bloodlines.
Essentially this. It also marks them out as likely one of the pseudo-mystic types, a "brain" NAZI worth removing from the game so to speak.
Oh right right, its stupid how i got caught up so much in the 1st half of the sentence.
https://www.climatechangecommunication.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ConspiracyTheoryHandbook.pdf (https://www.climatechangecommunication.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ConspiracyTheoryHandbook.pdf)
"Source-based debunking attempts to reduce the
credibility of conspiracy theorists whereas empathy
based debunkings compassionately call attention to
the targets of conspiracy theories. A source-based
debunking that ridiculed believers of lizard men was
found to be as effective as a fact-based debunking.
In contrast, an empathy-based debunking of
antiSemitic conspiracy theories that argued that Jews
today face similar persecution as early Christians was
unsuccessful."
Mock conspiracy theorists for the common good. :lulz:
Good to know that a trend I had perceived but was uncertain of is in fact true.
No one who targets a persecuted group gives a fuck about those people. The only way to adjust their beliefs is to make them regret them.
I fundamentally disagree, if you invest enough emotional resources to the rabid rat, you will find that deep down it only needed love.
Something something substitution bias.
So, Jenn just got carted off by the EMTs to the cardiac ward.
And due to the plague, I can't be with her.
Wtf!!! Is she going to be okay?
Fuck. I can relate.
Just heard from her.
She's awake & alert, not comfortable, and while they are not ruling out a heart attack, there is no detectable damage.
Waiting on enzyme tests.
Thank goodness, hope all comes comes back clear.
Also heard back from mine and she sounds okay.
[not anything serious like 911]
Shit, man.. I hope everything's okay.
Fuck. Fingers crossed.
Yikes. Good luck to her.
Definitely putting my hopes in the pool here. Good outcomes only.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 02, 2020, 04:57:14 AM
Just heard from her.
She's awake & alert, not comfortable, and while they are not ruling out a heart attack, there is no detectable damage.
Waiting on enzyme tests.
Good luck. No obvious damage sounds positive.
She is home, they have mostly ruled out a heart attack, but don't know what is up.
So now it's the parade of specialists, etc.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Hopefully it's a heap of appointments for "non reoccurring cardiac event".
But looking good at least. I've got a 8 hour drive next week for a 20 min funeral. Wheeeeee
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 02, 2020, 06:30:02 PM
She is home, they have mostly ruled out a heart attack, but don't know what is up.
So now it's the parade of specialists, etc.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Several years back, I checked myself into the ER with irregular heartbeat, shortness of breath, etc. They found nothing wrong with me. Well, not exactly nothing; they put me on a 24-hour heart monitor, and my heartrate was too high--
when I was awake. No other irregularities, though. Then I sorta fell through the cracks of the system. Years passed. A couple years ago, things got worse again (in different ways), and I came out of the whole mess with a clean echocardiogram, a diagnosis of an anxiety disorder, and a prescription for antidepressants.
In hindsight, that incident may have been my version of a panic attack.
Anyway, chest pain (and other apparent cardiovascular oddities) can be a symptom of anxiety. Still nasty to deal with, but less fatal. How's she been coping with the plague situation, lately?
Hope it is nothing and that she gets well soon
Any updates on Jenn? Fingers crossed!
In other news
Yesterday was a parade of horrible bullshit that in the end just ended up being extremely embarrassing for me and POSSIBLY extremely annoying to my current hostess. (She denies it. I just can't understand NOT being annoyed by it.) I had, in order:
Burnt my fingers on food I had left out for a good twenty minutes. This was fine, really, but it showed where my day was headed.
Amazon banned me from purchasing from them because I used the wrong billing address because PayPal somehow changed my billing address and Amazon's fraud department absolutely demands physical paper billing statements to undo their account suspensions. My explanations fell on deaf ears, they make zero exceptions. I don't have many options for replacing some of my belongings, so this fucking sucked to hear.
Then! Murderous, bloodthirsty heartburn. Literally coughed up blood. Due to the Pop Tarts (not the poster, the food) that had burned my fingers, since they were the last thing I had eaten.
So I ate pizza much later (only other option) and dropped a slice due to an unexpected muscle spasm, launching bits of it far and wide. I got sauce and goo all over my fucking clothes.
Followed by a howling whirlwind toothache that spiraled far out of control to literally kicking and mewling in the fetal position for a full hour, before literally dragging myself to the window with a bottle of water and a cigarette and hanging out the damned second story window, alternately smoking, drinking water and spitting until a fragment of bell pepper dislodged from my tooth and the YAWNING FUCKING CHASM of pain immediately fell to a sharp pinprick in the cheek.
It's getting to the point I'm begging Eris to back the fuck off. Things are too fucking exciting. I really have nothing against excitement even, I just want it at any other time in any other way in comparatively small manageable doses. Right now I need a boring life. Thanks Eris.
Yeah, parts of this weekend had me feeling straight-up bewitched too, like Eris booby-trapping my shit to perform these weird chain reaction snares that I mostly expunged from memory. I do remember that she was quite fond of "painting my toe nails" (with blood) by having me stub my toes here and there in some commentary on how I'm "dragging my feet" or whatever. This all amplified by lack of sleep.
Thankfully the bombs stopped going off... now the douchebag downstairs thinks it's cool to start blasting his coke-fueled music at 6:45am ON SUNDAY MORNING when he plays at night until 1:00am. This is cool because becoming psychotic is actually no skin off my back. He tries to say he started after 9:00am, now all his friends know what sorry lying douchebag he is.
Quote from: altered on July 06, 2020, 03:40:00 PM
Any updates on Jenn? Fingers crossed!
She seems to be fine, thanks. Loads more testing to do, obviously.
And I'm sorry to hear that 2020 has been beating you with big shitty sticks. :cry:
Good to hear! Got my wishes turned toward the direction of continued good news for you and her. Medical scares are the worst.
As for me, I was just surprised by the quantity of sticks. As I said, it's mostly ended up fine, though today I'm dealing with the Crohn's and stress induced fallout. Lot of toilet time.
Just the sheer volume. My hostess admitted she wasn't sure to believe me when I stated that more than half of my bad days have absolutely nothing to do with being my fault, but that yesterday showed her that I wasn't exaggerating. One goddamn thing after another, no breaks and no delay and absolutely nothing I did to be blamed for it.
If I was a different person, I might believe this was the punishment of God for being a freakish amoral tranny. That said, I note a distinct lack of a religious dimension to the events, so I'm going to assume otherwise.
I think God has already inflicted a punishment on transwomen, and it's JK Rowling continuing to speak publicly and at great length about her shitty opinions.
reminds me of that time Moses unleashed JK Rowling on the Pharaoh
Quotefamily-guy style cutaway gag
lol, good times
I think the Pharaoh would have preferred the first-born thing, tbh.
I just got a potential solution to my homelessness.
There is one requirement: that I can somehow put together the funds to pay rent and survive LONG TERM. I'm good in the short term, but next month the unemployment assistance dries up. I can make that pay my way for a few more months, but it won't go far.
Credit isn't an issue here. I just need to fill a slot on a lease. I can't take any advantage of this until I can say with some certainty I have the long term set. I could lie, but it's a very good friend offering me this and I'm not about to fuck with their trust by any means. They get left in the lurch if I fuck up.
Ideas? This is the closest I've come to a workable, feasible, accessible solution so far and by fucking god I am going to leverage every avenue I have to find a way to seize it.
Also, to be clear, I already have some no-strings-attached guaranteed monthly help. A friend can absolutely put 400/mo down to keep me sheltered. It just isn't enough, but it's close: if memory serves, rent and utilities is in the 600/mo range. Like, give or take 30.
Ideally, I wouldn't need it, but in terms of a longer term game plan it's a nice fallback.
Today, I have the stomach flu.
Working from home is happening, but I may have to set up office in "my office" at this rate.
Online copywriting is my dull suggestion, altered. Work remotely, set your own hours...pay's not normally fantastic, especially when starting out, but if its about filling out an extra $200 a month, then that is very doable. Usually the "interview" process is a quick test of your writing skills and they'll pay your earnings directly into your Paypal account, so if you're alright with stiffing the IRS for a bit, it's definitely an option.
Any of the big websites are always advertising for writers. It's not fun, or interesting...but you don't need to get up or commute, you don't have to jump through the hoops of getting a "proper" job and you can start at it pretty much right away. All you need is a working internet connection and a word processor.
More like an extra 400 (gotta pay my own food) but that is definitely a possible addition. How much per piece on average? Best guess is fine, I know what I can churn out on command on average and can do the rough math from that.
For say a 500 word piece? 10-20 dollars for the most basic kind of writing. the sort of stuff you can bang out in under an hour. Most of these places work on tiers of complexity in the pieces, and usually to be able to write the more complex pieces you need a certain amount of lesser ones done and reviews to not be below a certain rating to access the next tier.
Once you've done a few you'll usually have "templates" ready to go, which can also speed up the process considerably.
It's definitely something. I considered and rejected it before because writing enough to make rent without any support was well into the realm of the unrealistic, but things have changed and this is actually a helpful puzzle piece to a complete solution.
Thanks.
Writing things you like and enjoy to write about is definitely a losing strategy. Writing advertising copy and fake reviews? That's where you can earn something of a living. No problem.
:lulz:
That's what I was looking at before! The real change was to my situation: I now have some backup and the place I'm going is way cheaper, so rather than making up 1200/mo in rent and utilities and some extra for food, I'm looking to round off about 200/mo for rent and some extra for (cheaper by far) food.
One of these would require I wrote in my sleep. The other is more like part time hours.
So I have been off of the forum for days and need to catch up some threads. My laptop was where I had my access set up, but I am using my new phone now. I got myself stranded in LaCrosse when the brakes on my car took a shit last night. I'm not getting back to my laptop any time soon so I set up to use my phone. Going to look for a part time job in the area to pay for repairs.
Dok I was VERY glad to hear that your wife had no evidence of heart attack. I hope that all test results come back clear and it's just a one off incident.
Altered I'm glad you got a stable spot for now and hope you can prosper as much as possible.
That shit sucks a lot. Fuck. Are you otherwise okay?
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 08, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
I got myself stranded in LaCrosse
:eek:
At least it isn't Appleton.
I just got chased by a flying, screaming tennis ball of wings and stings.
Cicada killers are awesome, like giant fucking robber flies. This one literally tackled this cicada out of a tree, mashed it's head in the dirt, then flew it in a drunken circle to this perch.
I'd estimate our little murderer is an inch and a half to two inches in length and it politely waited for me to step aside the last time it nearly flew into me: I think it mistook me for a tree!
See attachment.
Quote from: altered on July 08, 2020, 04:02:59 PM
That shit sucks a lot. Fuck. Are you otherwise okay?
Yes. I have good friends and connections here. I'm doing alright in that sense. I'm pretty fucked up for other reasons I will make an entry in the plague diary for.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 08, 2020, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 08, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
I got myself stranded in LaCrosse
:eek:
At least it isn't Appleton.
Or the horrid region known only as The Pines.
Glad to hear you're not in immediate distress, TWJ. Let me know if you need human time, I'm doing kind of okay right now.
In other news:
I do this thing where I buy slightly overpriced "tactical" versions of stuff. I do this for two reasons:
First, it tends to come with absurd warranties and to be built like a tank. Being homeless, you need that sort of reliability.
Two, I'm a stupid edge lord who is a high value target for chuds. I enjoy the aesthetic and it protects my life.
Which brings me to my latest kind-of issue.
My lanyards from my last job at SimpliSafe are starting to come apart. I want to replace them with a tactical one. No problem, right? WRONG.
See, a "tactical lanyard" is also something for cops to secure their weapons to their bodies with. And that's clogging search results to the point of uselessness.
So, I need a lanyard of the fabric loop and clip type. It needs to be built of stronger fabric than a fucking ribbon, like a strap for slings or backpacks (the final failure was the ribbon tearing). It needs to be long enough to stay attached to me while using keys attached to it to unlock things. It needs to have a decent carabiner for the clip, a normal lanyard's spring clip will not do (I bend them).
Does anyone have suggestions? Bonus points if they come in a dull shade of green or brown.
You'd think someone like Gore-Tex would make something like that, but I'm not seeing any so far, just normal, promotional ones.
Yeah, it's sort of absurd. One of the most obvious things to make a tactical version of, and they don't.
I checked all the usual suspects: Hazard 4, Rothco, UTG/Leapers, etc. No dice.
Quote from: altered on July 08, 2020, 07:01:38 PM
Does anyone have suggestions? Bonus points if they come in a dull shade of green or brown.
What about a tool lanyard?
https://www.ergodyne.com/lanyards/equipment-tool-lanyards.html
Ugly, overpriced, rated for 40 lbs:
https://www.ergodyne.com/squids-3129-tool-lanyard-double-locking-sinlge-carabiner-with-swivel-40lbs.html
This (https://www.ergodyne.com/squids-3111f-x-tool-lanyard-dual-stainless-steel-carabiners-15lbs-6-8kg.html) looks strong though.
Quote from: altered on July 08, 2020, 06:16:33 PM
I just got chased by a flying, screaming tennis ball of wings and stings.
Cicada killers are awesome, like giant fucking robber flies. This one literally tackled this cicada out of a tree, mashed it's head in the dirt, then flew it in a drunken circle to this perch.
I'd estimate our little murderer is an inch and a half to two inches in length and it politely waited for me to step aside the last time it nearly flew into me: I think it mistook me for a tree!
See attachment.
Oh shit! I think I saw one of those killers the other day, only it was all black. Big fucker, like two inches long (not counting wing tips) crawling on the ground for cover in the underbrush of a palm-like tree. I think it was escaping a swarm of bees overhead. First time I seen one in America.
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2020, 07:52:24 PM
This (https://www.ergodyne.com/squids-3111f-x-tool-lanyard-dual-stainless-steel-carabiners-15lbs-6-8kg.html) looks strong though.
This is by some joint with a brick and mortar off interstate 10, not really affiliated
QuotePersonal Retention Lanyard is designed to keep you safely attached to a solid object or vehicle and not release until you need it to. The lanyard is constructed from industrial strength bungee encased in mil spec 1 inch tubular nylon and has been drop tested to well over the weight of a fully equipped operator. The shackle is made of stainless steel and designed to release even under load
ETA: modified time reflect altered tolerance threshold
That 40 lb one is almost exactly what I want. Well, okay, the orange color is not it at all, but I can accept orange and black in a get up of olive and poop colors, it fits well enough.
Massively overkill, easily tied to anything I might want to have it attached to, made to withstand the functional equivalent of a bomb dropping. There is just one small problem.
Keys won't fit on that carabiner. (And the 15lb one has the exact same problem.)
Key RINGS will, but I have a parade of temporary keys that need to be easily clipped on and clipped off. Love the lock and all, but it means keys are SOL unless I mate them to a ring.
Closer though!
Fake edit to say that dipshit is doing as dipshit does and literally sticking his foot exactly where I have been avoiding stepping. Fucking moron.
I think I may need to break-up with bluehost> I think she's been messin' around town on me... does anyone have suggestions for a good and fast internet hosting service not associated with the likes of MoldScruggs and such. Something that does Wordpress quickly, preferably, so I don't have to mirror it. Also need ssh, sql, directory access and the ability to run cron at my discretion. Server load would be mild, but thorough?
I've been trying to look for the name of the kind of carabiner that works for me, and it seems it's called an "HK clip" or "HK style clip". They're relatively flat and have a smallish "hook" part. Very distinctive, very useful.
I wonder if "HK clip" will bring up useful search results? Gonna try.
Success!
https://www.originalsoegear.com/products/26-detachable-lanyard?variant=31228307734622
Stupidly overpriced, but that's an inch thick strap, coarse and heavy material in a tight weave, and the cobra buckles... they're pricey but they're literally unbreakable. More likely to fuse the metal in place than for the retention to fail and release. Hate fastex buckles with a passion, all it takes is a solid jerk to force-release and bust the clip forever.
Thanks for the inspiration, folks!
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 08:38:32 PM
I think I may need to break-up with bluehost> I think she's been messin' around town on me... does anyone have suggestions for a good and fast internet hosting service not associated with the likes of MoldScruggs and such. Something that does Wordpress quickly, preferably, so I don't have to mirror it. Also need ssh, sql, directory access and the ability to run cron at my discretion. Server load would be mild, but thorough?
If you post a link to your site, maybe we can provide some advice.
I have managed, without adding anything to the bag that wasn't in it before, to overload my duffel bag to the 70lb point, and the zippers are all fit to burst.
So I tried to strap it to a luggage cart because I physically cannot lift it, can barely budge it.
One strained knee later, it's upright and sort of moveable. Except I forgot that there are stairs.
My hostess will need to take the duffel downstairs, because asking me to is simply hilariously unrealistic. And then I will need to use my full body weight to move it.
I literally have no idea how this happened.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 08:38:32 PM
I think I may need to break-up with bluehost> I think she's been messin' around town on me... does anyone have suggestions for a good and fast internet hosting service not associated with the likes of MoldScruggs and such. Something that does Wordpress quickly, preferably, so I don't have to mirror it. Also need ssh, sql, directory access and the ability to run cron at my discretion. Server load would be mild, but thorough?
If you post a link to your site, maybe we can provide some advice.
It's down now: white screen of death. Can't even wp-admin in. Trying to restore from backup (which THEY now have to do since the 'upgrade') Will update once it's up again.
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 08:38:32 PM
I think I may need to break-up with bluehost> I think she's been messin' around town on me... does anyone have suggestions for a good and fast internet hosting service not associated with the likes of MoldScruggs and such. Something that does Wordpress quickly, preferably, so I don't have to mirror it. Also need ssh, sql, directory access and the ability to run cron at my discretion. Server load would be mild, but thorough?
If you post a link to your site, maybe we can provide some advice.
It's down now: white screen of death. Can't even wp-admin in. Trying to restore from backup (which THEY now have to do since the 'upgrade') Will update once it's up again.
No rush, my intention was merely to mock and deride. I'm not actually the kind of person who would help someone who threatens people with imaginary Mongolians.
Let me know if you manage to sort out your screw-up.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 09, 2020, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Quote from: minuspace on July 08, 2020, 08:38:32 PM
I think I may need to break-up with bluehost> I think she's been messin' around town on me... does anyone have suggestions for a good and fast internet hosting service not associated with the likes of MoldScruggs and such. Something that does Wordpress quickly, preferably, so I don't have to mirror it. Also need ssh, sql, directory access and the ability to run cron at my discretion. Server load would be mild, but thorough?
If you post a link to your site, maybe we can provide some advice.
It's down now: white screen of death. Can't even wp-admin in. Trying to restore from backup (which THEY now have to do since the 'upgrade') Will update once it's up again.
No rush, my intention was merely to mock and deride. I'm not actually the kind of person who would help someone who threatens people with imaginary Mongolians.
Let me know if you manage to sort out your screw-up.
LMNO has been threatening me with imaginary Boston thugs for 17 years. :(
But they're real imaginary Boston thugs. These aren't even fake imaginary Mongolians
Quote from: Cain on July 09, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
But they're real imaginary Boston thugs. These aren't even fake imaginary Mongolians
Point.
We're no longer calling them "thugs".
They are now "unlicensed involuntary chiropractors".
Quote from: LMNO on July 09, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
We're no longer calling them "thugs".
They are now "unlicensed involuntary chiropractors".
:lulz:
Allegedly unlicensed. Nobody has in fact ever asked Mr Chop & Mr Scratch for their license.
Discordianism: Our imaginary friends can beat up your imaginary friends.
Oh, hey, 100 pages.
Cain, what are we gonna call the next bar?
I was just considering that, actually. I'm feeling something lockdown/quarantine-related...
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 09, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
We're no longer calling them "thugs".
They are now "unlicensed involuntary chiropractors".
:lulz:
Allegedly unlicensed. Nobody has in fact ever asked Mr Chop & Mr Scratch for their license.
I'm not gonna ask. Are
you?
Quote from: LMNO on July 09, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2020, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 09, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
We're no longer calling them "thugs".
They are now "unlicensed involuntary chiropractors".
:lulz:
Allegedly unlicensed. Nobody has in fact ever asked Mr Chop & Mr Scratch for their license.
I'm not gonna ask. Are you?
This ain't my first BBQ.
Quote from: Cain on July 09, 2020, 03:20:18 PM
I was just considering that, actually. I'm feeling something lockdown/quarantine-related...
That's what I was thinking.
Open Bar: Welcome to our Plague Party
Open Bar: Follow the Yellow Tape Road
Open Bar, Masque of the Red Death Edition
Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
Quote from: Cramulus on July 09, 2020, 04:38:32 PM
Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
Open Bar: Hart Island Getway Edition
Open Bar: Hydroxychloroquine on tap
Open bar : buboes all round.
Open Bar: Nurgle goes to Washington edition
UNLIMITED Open Bar: Possibly the final Open Bar. Thanks Obama
Open Bar: Or, Well drinks straight from the Covid's pointy teat.
aaargh more lockdown and other shenanigans
8)
6+8=14
1+4=5
law of fives strikes again
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