QuoteATHENS (Reuters) – Greek police charged two U.S. tourists with desecrating the dead on Thursday after they found six human skulls in their hand luggage at Athens international airport, a police official said.
More here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100916/od_nm/us_skull_luggage_odd_1
Also, JOAF Challenge (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26342.msg922669#msg922669)
:facepalm:
Goddammit.
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on September 16, 2010, 10:49:29 PMCan we elect to not be Americans even if we were born here.
No, living here for any length of time taints you, you will always be an American.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 16, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on September 16, 2010, 10:49:29 PMCan we elect to not be Americans even if we were born here.
No, living here for any length of time taints you, you will always be an American.
:x :x :x :x
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
Ive heard of some guy breaking into a mortuary, ripping the head of somebody (some-body, get it? HAHA), later doing a head shriking sort of thing on it, and finally put it in an aquarium.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on September 17, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
Ive heard of some guy breaking into a mortuary, ripping the head of somebody (some-body, get it? HAHA), later doing a head shriking sort of thing on it, and finally put it in an aquarium.
Now that is pretty messed up...
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
Because deep down in our monkey brains -we know for a fact- owning the skull of your enemy is owning his soul.
I like the idea, but I already have a skull (other than the occupied one). It's a bottle formerly full of good vodka that perches on one of my ominously cluttered shelves.
I don't personally see anything wrong with keeping old body parts around. This body part double standard drives me nuts too! It's jsut fine to have my own medically extracted skeleton parts hanging around, but the moment I'm dead it becomes a crime?
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
Oh, this
seriously worries me.
Quote from: Nigel on September 17, 2010, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
Oh, this seriously worries me.
:popcorn:
As ye sow, and all that shit.
I am surrounded by empty skulls. They are still attached to the living for now.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 17, 2010, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 17, 2010, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
Oh, this seriously worries me.
:popcorn:
As ye sow, and all that shit.
I swordfight with a few of them on the weekends. They vary from shitstacks to awesome folks, but I have no illusions about who would win if we REALLY threw down.
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
They go to work for organized/unorganized crime or freelance demanding that everyone they kill they get to keep a part of.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 17, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
They go to work for organized/unorganized crime or freelance demanding that everyone they kill they get to keep a part of.
Everyone should have a hobby.
Ooh, maybe when America has had a long and tragic past like Europe we will have cathedrals made of skeletons too.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 17, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
THough, I do recall a case of grave desecration in Fitchburg, MA a couple of years ago where some guy stole a skull from a cemetary and made it into an ashtray. Not a new thing but always wtf to hear about.
This seems to be a trophy thing, among the troops. As far as I've read at least. I know it's not exactly the same kind of trophy taking as, say, serial killers do, but it's close enough to make me think about what all these death squads are gonna do once their service is up.
They go to work for organized/unorganized crime or freelance demanding that everyone they kill they get to keep a part of.
That was pretty much my thinking. Although they'd be the last to come back. the money to keep the little psychopaths out there will eventually run out and they're going to have to get their jollies
somehow. And it's not like the three letter agencies and SOCOM are going to pick up their own trash either. Probably find their way to the PMCs, in the best case scenario, and allowed to run loose in the worst.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 16, 2010, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
There seems to be a thriving trade in human body parts from NATO troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2216412,00.html - skulls!
http://newsone.com/world/associatedpress3/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-collecting-fingers-of-dead-afghan-soldiers/ - fingers AND skulls!
Weird, I wonder what's going on with this sort of thing...
I believe the protocol here is to make them into lampshades.
The shit part? It just stirs the Talibs (the Afghan Talibs, the newer brands of them in the villages) even more, because of the insult to Muslims by desecrating a dead body like that. Ugh. Dumbasses.
...Exacerbating an already unfixable problem. Nice.
I think the main problem is that foreign troops are occupying their country. Historically this has been known to piss people off even when the occupying troops act like saints.
The unfixable problem, of course, is that they won't be able to install a capitalistic democracy no matter how many dead bodies they refrain from mutilating.
Indeed. It is amusing watching the United States become the mirror image of the Soviet Union though, you have to admit. The above was a reply more to Jenne, really. Besides, I'm pretty sure those same Talibs would have no qualms about mutiliating the bodies of foreign soldiers, since, as usual, such rules don't apply to people outside of the Chosen Elect. I mean, I'm pretty sure many American soldiers are Christians, who also tend to hold negative views of people disturbing the dead bodies...of other Christians.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2010, 11:28:09 PM
I think the main problem is that foreign troops are occupying their country. Historically this has been known to piss people off even when the occupying troops act like saints.
No, I mean, you're right, but come on, this is just the sort of thing the Talibs wanted. And the sort of behavior that points to the fact the US needs out. Like, now. Because Afghans can't be and WON'T be policed by anyone else.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2010, 11:35:31 PM
Indeed. It is amusing watching the United States become the mirror image of the Soviet Union though, you have to admit. The above was a reply more to Jenne, really. Besides, I'm pretty sure those same Talibs would have no qualms about mutiliating the bodies of foreign soldiers, since, as usual, such rules don't apply to people outside of the Chosen Elect. I mean, I'm pretty sure many American soldiers are Christians, who also tend to hold negative views of people disturbing the dead bodies...of other Christians.
Exactly, I mean, it's not like the US troops have NEVER taken trophies of their dead enemies before--I'm sure there's scads of history on it. I remember reading about soldiers in the 19th century lopping off Native American womens' boobs and using them as pouches. :x
And yeah, it's not like the Talibs themselves are motherfucking saints--their predecessors certainly weren't. My husband likes to retell the tales of how those taken for torture were held for a long ass time even past death as an extra insult, and then their body parts strewn around the street to add to it. They all did it--the Communists, the Mujahideen...it's almost a ritualistic insult.
Which is why the "hearts and minds" bullshit is just that--if you're there to build roads and schools, make the people safe, then cutting off fingers and mounting skulls ain't gonna do you any good with THAT campaign...as if any of us believed that was really part of their training, of course. Though my husband's cousin, the one who was an interpreter and is here on a student visa/now a green card, got along with the troops really fucking well. It was thanks go the general he worked under he got here under that interpreter visa.