Quote from: Pēleus on February 12, 2010, 09:52:43 PMI have never liked anything of the ultimates universe, it started off attempting new ideas, it sold well, and then got railroaded into its own clichés which aren't that much more interesting.Quote from: Faust on February 12, 2010, 02:30:01 PM
Really. I would consider those the archtype of super hero comics, with some of the worst case examples of what is wrong with mainstream comics, decompression so there is very little going on, overly dramatic showboating, and the writers hands being tied so that the status quo is maintained.
i think this recent set of series isnt so flat. while the skrull invasion was kinda meh, the storyline next built on that
and they employed a writer just to do all the comics under their marvel universe into one storyline
problem that is that they have many universes that they like to play with.
orgins ultimates etc
fans get confused where the story they are reading fits in the timeline
the ones i named and not the zombie or primate universes, are in order and has a good plot
Hobgoblin replacing Iron man is maintaining the status quo
Marvels best stuff of the last few years has been the stuff that got neglected or was so far removed from the mainstream continuety that it could not be tied down into any other event.
My favorite Marvel stuff of the last few years has been Annihilation (a space opera involving galactus, the kree, scrull and some other sidelined characters). It was FANTASTIC, and the reason it was so creative was that it was overlooked by the marvel execs.
The other series was cable and deadpool. I started reading C+D at around issue six or seven and was shocked at its brilliant humor and actually writing good dialog and doing the most unimaginable thing possible: making cable a well rounded stylish political character as opposed to the haughty self importance over drama that is so prevalent in marvel, or the GRITTY mess that was the nineties and rob liefield.
That comic skyrocketed in popularity and became one of marvels best sellers.
What do they do to reward the writers and fans?
Force them to tie C+D into a shitty x-men event, end the series and stick cable into a self important overly dramatic GRITTY mess and launch two badly written deadpool comics assuming the fans would eat that shit up.
Of the Events:
House of M
intriguing idea: All the mutants would lose their powers.
Actuality: Jubilee lost her powers, and everyone else lost theirs for about 20 seconds.
Civil war:
intriguing idea: A politically motivated story that is has no black and white morality villains, but rather interesting commentary on the perhaps misguided nature of secret identities. Also captain America will die
Actuality: Black and white morality story where Tony stark is dick dastardly. Spider-man reveals his identity to the world. World has its mind wiped. Black Goliath dies.
I didn't read secret invasion but I wouldn't expect much from it.
I heard from a reliable friend that World war hulk was good but i doubt it.
Dark reign has been interesting so far and I have to commend them on making norman osborn leader of the avengers and giving the Sentry a pivotal role but otherwise I'm no longer that interested, and the status quo has already been confirmed to be coming back within the next two months.
When iron man (tony stark), captain America(steve rogers) and thor reform the avengers (they are as status quo as it gets).
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 09:22:31 PMAlso anna mercury is pretty bad, but planetary is awesome, read planetary.Quote from: E.O.T. on February 12, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
THANKS EVERYONE
I've got a good list of stuff to keep me busy in the reads, especially the Warren Ellis tip. I took a look around my favourite local comic shop last night and Ellis is the sea of material to dig into that I'm looking for, for sure. I noticed he's a bit all over the place, is his stuff like "armored wars" as worth reading as his more original stuff? RE: "doktor sleepless" - a comic which within two pages has a dj playing a muslimgauze remix and a Timothy McVeigh flyer plastered outside of a club is creating a dark alley which I'm so totally walking down just to see what happens.
FAUST
Your opinion - I say yes, to all of it. Thanks for the Dini suggestion, I've never read any of his stuff.
Hey, if you're going to read Ellis, I suggest you start with his novel ("Crooked Little Vein"), then Transmetropolitan, then everything else. Reason being, those are the only two things he ever finished, and it gets kind of old getting into a series, and then having it just end.
Also, don't waste your money on "Gravel", by Ellis. It's crap.