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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: hooplala on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM

Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: hooplala on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
Not sure if there is a thread on this already, but I was wondering if people know much about Gregory Hill?

I've noticed that I havent been able to find a single picture of him on the internet, whereas I can find several of Kerry Thornley.

Also, Malaclypse the Younger is mentioned several times in Illuminatus as having dissapeared into the ocean, or going to start the ELF . . .

Also also - Kerry Thornley and RAW had a falling out in the 70s when Thornley thought he was working for the CIA, but I never read what Gregory Hill thought about it, or whether Hill and Thornley were still talking at that point.

So . . . does Gregory Hill even exist?  Or is his 'real' name Robert Anton Wilson?

Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: gnimbley on April 19, 2005, 05:26:03 PM
Greg Hill is a pooka. He lives in Ireland and recently published the
cyberpunk novel "Crash and Burn like a Turkey, Baby" under the
penname of Mangrove Polygoose.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: LMNO on April 19, 2005, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: gnimbleyGreg Hill is a pooka. He lives in Ireland and recently published the
cyberpunk novel "Crash and Burn like a Turkey, Baby" under the
penname of Mangrove Polygoose.


This is TRUE.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 19, 2005, 05:36:07 PM
greg hill died in the late 80's of cancer. hje was a computer rpogrammer and was known for noticing obvioous obscurites often missed. if you were to visit him , he'd offer you room temperature coffeee. when visiotrs complained abotu th etemperature, he'd comment "you're nto drinking coffee, you're drinking temperature."
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Anonymous on April 19, 2005, 05:56:32 PM
That's interesting - why are there no pictures of him?

Any idea where I can find out more about this jester?


-C.R.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 19, 2005, 06:02:25 PM
the migh tbe one in confessions to conspiracy by kerry thronley.

i assume it may be because he may have not allowed people to take picture sof him.

also he apparetly cut ties to the world of discordia in the 70's.

and no robert anton wilson wasn't on th escne until well after the 1st ed. pd was published.

as far i know.

but there are 17 conflicting histories.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on April 19, 2005, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: horabgreg hill died in the late 80's of cancer.

Or so he wants you to think

Also noe that he wrote an afterward to the  Loompanics Unlimited edition of the Principia that for some reason is not on this website.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 19, 2005, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell
Quote from: horabgreg hill died in the late 80's of cancer.

Or so he wants you to think

Also noe that he wrote an afterward to the  Loompanics Unlimited edition of the Principia that for some reason is not on this website.
are any of the afterwords/forewords on this site?
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on April 19, 2005, 06:46:16 PM
I think R.A.W.'s is.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Verthaine on April 19, 2005, 09:20:24 PM
Hill travels to diffeent dimensions and planets doing Goddess'.work.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: gnimbley on April 19, 2005, 10:48:28 PM
What do you mean there are no picture of Greg Hill? I have one right here!

(http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/3487/crowd.jpg)

He's third from the left.

No, the other left.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 20, 2005, 03:17:47 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellI think R.A.W.'s is.
that's lame. i shoudl read it and the toehr wone's so i can say "raw's is the  suckeist evar!"


lol ;)
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on April 20, 2005, 04:05:55 AM
Kerry Thornley's intro is without a doubt the best, and in my opinion, should be included in any proper copy (http://www.ology.org/principia/intro5.html)
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 20, 2005, 05:04:08 AM
i totally agree the_fonz.

it's the oen that inspired me to write the discordian maniphestos.

Quote from: eris*ahem* I inpspired you woolbrain

er uh yes of course.  :P
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on April 20, 2005, 06:56:42 AM
Quote from: gnimbleyWhat do you mean there are no picture of Greg Hill? I have one right here!

[...]

He's third from the left.

No, the other left.

I know you were joking, (unless you actually weren't) but the third guy from the left does actually look a lot like what I picture Greg Hill as

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SuperTarzan/Malaclypse.jpg)

He looks like some sort of slick-looking divine prototype/enlightened prophet from outer space who's currently stuck in the late 50s, mourning the death of the underground jazz era but at the same time smug in the knowledge that the sexual revolution's about to happen.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on April 20, 2005, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell
Quote from: gnimbleyWhat do you mean there are no picture of Greg Hill? I have one right here!

[...]

He's third from the left.

No, the other left.

I know you were joking, (unless you actually weren't) but the third guy from the left does actually look a lot like what I picture Greg Hill as

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SuperTarzan/Malaclypse.jpg)

He looks like some sort of slick-looking divine prototype/enlightened prophet from outer space who's currently stuck in the late 50s, mourning the death of the underground jazz era but at the same time smug in the knowledge that the sexual revolution's about to happen.

Wrong left, dads.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: LMNO on April 20, 2005, 01:22:02 PM
I think I saw Waldo....
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: gnimbley on April 20, 2005, 03:45:22 PM
:D
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on April 20, 2005, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell
Quote from: gnimbleyWhat do you mean there are no picture of Greg Hill? I have one right here!

[...]

He's third from the left.

No, the other left.

I know you were joking, (unless you actually weren't) but the third guy from the left does actually look a lot like what I picture Greg Hill as

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SuperTarzan/Malaclypse.jpg)

He looks like some sort of slick-looking divine prototype/enlightened prophet from outer space who's currently stuck in the late 50s, mourning the death of the underground jazz era but at the same time smug in the knowledge that the sexual revolution's about to happen.

Wrong left, dads.

Not if we're talking my left.
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Rev. St. Syn, KSC (Ret.) on April 21, 2005, 11:13:54 PM
(http://a73.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/greghill.jpg)
Greg Hill just weeks before he died on 20th July 2000 of esophageal cancer.
"I am a dead man walking"
Title: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 22, 2005, 07:57:44 AM
(http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20021030/Greg%20Hill.jpg)
greg hill being felatiated by some small furry critter outside his home in delaware.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Gorightly on August 24, 2009, 03:53:51 AM
Greg Hill was quite real. More details to follow in a book one of these days. I've seen multiple pics. 2 are in my Prankster book. I know many people who knew and loved him. So there.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Iason Ouabache on August 24, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Well, I'm glad we solved that one. Anyone for a spot of tea?
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 24, 2009, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Gorightly on August 24, 2009, 03:53:51 AM
Greg Hill was quite real. More details to follow in a book one of these days. I've seen multiple pics. 2 are in my Prankster book. I know many people who knew and loved him. So there.

Good book by the way!
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Cain on August 24, 2009, 03:38:09 PM
Greg who?
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2009, 03:38:09 PM
Greg who?

Some hippie.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 24, 2009, 08:24:02 PM
I heard he co-authored a book with some other hippie. Few people read it and it had pretty much no influence on anyone.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: LMNO on August 24, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
It wasn't even very funny.  Something about hot dogs, I think.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2009, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 24, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
It wasn't even very funny.  Something about hot dogs, I think.

I think it was hilarious.  "Think for yourself", they said.  And what was the response?  "The Principia.  Read it." (Tao).

I still get a chuckle from that, as I sit in my office and watch the world circle the bowl.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: LMNO on August 24, 2009, 08:35:21 PM
Well sure, but you only think it's funny because you're not a real Discordian.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 24, 2009, 08:35:21 PM
Well sure, but you only think it's funny because you're not a real Discordian.

Troof.  I am the naugahide couch of the Discordian world.

I mean, who am I to argue with the Yogi Bear Cabal?
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: von on August 30, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
I found a pic of greg hill quite awhile ago.This pic was originally at http://pages.videotron.com/drroots/Pineal%20Code%20013.html, but the site is just a good ol' 404 error now.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/tv_voice/greg_hill.jpg)


I don't know if this is actually him or not, but the site I found it on had pics of several golden age-era discordians (Thornley, Benares, RAW et al.) so I'd assume it to be him.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: rong on August 30, 2009, 05:45:13 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 24, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
It wasn't even very funny.  Something about hot dogs, I think.

man, i love hot dogs. 
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Cramulus on August 30, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: Von Zwietracht on August 30, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
I found a pic of greg hill quite awhile ago.This pic was originally at http://pages.videotron.com/drroots/Pineal%20Code%20013.html, but the site is just a good ol' 404 error now.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/tv_voice/greg_hill.jpg)


I don't know if this is actually him or not, but the site I found it on had pics of several golden age-era discordians (Thornley, Benares, RAW et al.) so I'd assume it to be him.

I'm pretty sure that's him.

It's funny - when I look at this pic, my first impression is "Dungeon Master"
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 30, 2009, 07:28:20 PM
Mine is 'unix beard'.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 30, 2009, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 30, 2009, 07:28:20 PM
Mine is 'unix beard'.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Triple Zero on August 30, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
How incredibly odd, I used your exact username to sign up to another forum a while ago. And it wasnt some half-memory or anything cause I remember to need to look up whether it's spelled "zweitracht" oder "zwietracht".

Anyway, the account never got approved, so if you want the email e.von.zwietracht@g ma il.com, shoot me a PM, cause I suppose it belongs to you :-P

(e for "Erik" or "Eris")
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Ephenoir on August 31, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1808/calhi2.jpg)

Young Greg.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Triple Zero on August 31, 2009, 02:00:34 PM
Looks a bit like a younger brother of that fellow from MAD Magazine :-)
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Ephenoir on August 31, 2009, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: Von Zwietracht on August 30, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
I found a pic of greg hill quite awhile ago.This pic was originally at http://pages.videotron.com/drroots/Pineal%20Code%20013.html, but the site is just a good ol' 404 error now.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/tv_voice/greg_hill.jpg)


I don't know if this is actually him or not, but the site I found it on had pics of several golden age-era discordians (Thornley, Benares, RAW et al.) so I'd assume it to be him.

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2475/gregoryhill.jpg)

Better version.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: von on August 31, 2009, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Ephenoir on August 31, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1808/calhi2.jpg)

Young Greg.

wow...that looks ALOT like this guy that works at the liquor store by my house...

Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Butterfly Nagelov on September 01, 2009, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 31, 2009, 02:00:34 PM
Looks a bit like a younger brother of that fellow from MAD Magazine :-)
alfred e newmans?  cna';t tell id hes missingf a tooth ore nota
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 21, 2009, 01:28:29 AM
Wasn't there a Greg Hill in the production staff of Rocko's Modern Life? I've always wondered if it was the same Greg Hill......
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: hooplala on October 02, 2009, 06:36:31 PM
I can't believe I started this thread.


Well, sadly, I can believe it... I just don't want to.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 02, 2009, 06:36:31 PM
I can't believe I started this thread.


Well, sadly, I can believe it... I just don't want to.

Even the greatest journey may begin with a spaggoty question  :lulz:
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Phnepsilon on October 09, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
Not sure if there is a thread on this already, but I was wondering if people know much about Gregory Hill?
Such debates can be found everywhere, including discussion pages in Wikipedia that I may or may not have contributed to.

Quote from: Hoopla on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
I've noticed that I havent been able to find a single picture of him on the internet, whereas I can find several of Kerry Thornley.
What makes you think that Kerry Thornley isn't an alias of Greg Hill?

Quote from: Hoopla on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
Also, Malaclypse the Younger is mentioned several times in Illuminatus as having dissapeared into the ocean, or going to start the ELF . . .
Oh, thanks for ruining it, jack ass!  :argh!:

Quote from: Hoopla on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
So . . . does Gregory Hill even exist?  Or is his 'real' name Robert Anton Wilson?

Is the thought of a pseudonym a pseudothought?

In any case, from the previous entries, you now have several accounts of who he was. Happy now? Lots of information!
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Phnepsilon on October 09, 2009, 11:17:46 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 21, 2009, 01:28:29 AM
Wasn't there a Greg Hill in the production staff of Rocko's Modern Life?

Actually, yes. You can get a partial list of Greg Hill's work here:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0384295/

A lot of art and animation... this fits with the access to Western Union forms quite neatly.
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: rygD on October 31, 2009, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on April 19, 2005, 05:00:01 PM
I've noticed that I havent been able to find a single picture of him on the internet, whereas I can find several of Kerry Thornley.

If you are unable to find images of people on the interweb does that mean they cease to exist?
Title: Re: Greg Hill??? real?
Post by: Iron Sulfide on November 02, 2009, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 30, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: Von Zwietracht on August 30, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
I found a pic of greg hill quite awhile ago.This pic was originally at http://pages.videotron.com/drroots/Pineal%20Code%20013.html, but the site is just a good ol' 404 error now.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/tv_voice/greg_hill.jpg)


I don't know if this is actually him or not, but the site I found it on had pics of several golden age-era discordians (Thornley, Benares, RAW et al.) so I'd assume it to be him.

I'm pretty sure that's him.

It's funny - when I look at this pic, my first impression is "Dungeon Master"

Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 30, 2009, 07:28:20 PM
Mine is 'unix beard'.

Mine is "Creepy uncle that touched my cousins...."