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I am way too tempted to take a picture of my cock and post it.
Somebody has to play god, why not scientists?
So, I showed this to my SO, who now wants to pat you on the head and coo.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 07, 2010, 08:00:48 AM
Sure, put us in the game. What's the worse that could happen???
You fool! You've doomed us all!
GASM Command / Re: RotGASM
June 06, 2010, 08:43:31 PM
A list of the 31 groups.

Alaska Youth and Family Network and YouthMOVE

Anchorage, AL

American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities

Washington, DC

Association of University Centers on Disabilities

Silver Spring, MD

The Arc of the U.S.

Silver Spring, MD

Autism National Committee (AutCom)

Forest Knolls, CA

The Autistic Self Advocacy Network

Washington, DC

Center on Human Policy, Law, and Disability Studies, Syracuse University

Syracuse, NY

The Coalition for the Legal Rights of People with Disabilities

Boston, MA

Cobb and Douglas Counties Community Service Boards

Smyrna, GA

Connecticut Council on Developmental Disabilities

Hartford, CT

Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund

Berkley, CA

Easter Seals

Chicago, IL

Exceptional Parent Magazine

Johnstown, PA

Hope House Foundation

Norfolk, VA

The Learning Community for Person Centered Practices

Annapolis, MD

The Maine Independent Media Center

Waterville, ME

Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education

Hanover, MD

National Association of County Behavioral Health and Developmental Disability Directors

Washington, DC

National Association of Councils on Developmental Disabilities

Washington, DC

National Association for the Dually Diagnosed (NADD)

Kingston, NY

National Disability Rights Network

Washington, DC

The National Leadership Consortium on Developmental Disabilities, University of Delaware

Newark, DE

Respect ABILITY Law Center

Royal Oak, Michigan

RHA Howell, Inc.

Raleigh, NC

Self Advocates Becoming Empowered

Kansas City, MO


Washington, DC

United Cerebral Palsy

Washington, DC

Values Into Action

Media, PA

University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, School of Nursing

Newark, NJ

University of San Diego Autism Institute

San Diego, CA

The Voices and Choices of Autism

Lakewood, CO
GASM Command / Re: RotGASM
June 06, 2010, 07:27:01 PM
So, I'm poking around for some legitimate sources about the Rotenberg Center and I found a couple of potentially useful links.

An article on it by Education News dated Feb 23 2012. There does appear to already be some legal action being taken, an investigation by the US Department of Justice. As far as I can tell, the investigation could take some time. But, we at least know that there are organizations that are actively working against them, organizations that are credible. Like the Center on Human Policy, Law, and Disability Studies - Syracuse University, The National Leadership Consortium on Developmental Disabilities - University of Delaware, and the University of San Diego Autism Institute. This site also has a copy of the original complaint letter filled by these groups, which could be useful.

I also found a pdf of a court case that the Rotenberg Center filled against the New York State Education Department. New York banned them from shocking their students, and the Rotenberg Center tried to claim this violated their rights. The ruling was that their rights were not violated and the Rotenberg Center cannot legally use their "therapy." We also have a very legitimate source that details exactly what was done.

QuoteAversive methods include contingent food programs, the use of helmets on some children, mechanical restraints, and the application of electric skin shocks through a graduated electronic decelerator (GED).

They've also been caught in a lie, but I'm not sure how useful it is.
QuotePlaintiffs [Rotenberg Center] contend that defendants [New York State Education Department]
improperly accepted allegations of mistreatment by JRC as fact in early
2006 without investigating their merits. With their next breath, however,
plaintiffs object to just such an investigation, asserting that defendants' "rereviewed"
JRC to avoid negative media attention arising from the 2006
allegations. Clearly, plaintiffs cannot have it both ways, and their attempt
to do so must be rejected.
Quote from: Kai on June 05, 2010, 01:41:02 AM
Most of the stuff on the last four pages is so full of bullshit I can smell cowpies through my screen.

Anybody can google. How many of you so called experts have ever actually studied animal behavior?

If you HAD, you'd know that males and females are in a coevolutionary arms race, of which BOTH are looking to pass on their genes to the next generation. The key to understanding mating systems in an evolutionary context is parental investment. In some organisms, like many insects, females are choosy and males mate often. In other's, males are more choosy than the females. Why? Because the males in those cases provide significantly more energy investment towards individual offspring than the females do, either with parental care, or sperm package size and composition.

In humans, gestation period is long, parental care lasts years, and pairs tend to mate monogamously. Guess what that means?

BOTH MALE AND FEMALE HUMANS ARE CHOOSY. Got it? Theres none of this stupid caveman shit about spreading sperm far and wide with females being the passive receivers. It's not in the males best interest, because biology and culture requires extended parental care for his offspring, and it's definitely not in the females interest to be a passive receiver for the same reason. Both actively seek out and selectively choose mates. Both have a reason, because both have strong parental investments and both aim to get their genes into the next generation.

Are we done with this male/female stereotype bullshit now?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on June 06, 2010, 07:08:31 AM
I think its a map error, I can't see any buildings there when I zoom in.
Has to be one, I know that google maps places a local clinic in the middle of a baseball field. It was fun trying to find them using the interwebs.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 05, 2010, 10:34:02 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 04, 2010, 11:41:50 PM
World War one being called "The Great War". What utter bullshit. Surely WWII, with it's superior
weaponry, more participant Countries, and more memorable leaders was far greater than WWI?
The planning was better, the bombs were better, the guns were better, the Uniforms, everything about it, really.
WWI, Tactics consisted of sitting in muddy fields for years on end, shooting at each other with
crappy antique guns. What was so "great" about that then?
And while we're at it, I'm calling bullshit on all civil wars. There is truly nothing "civil" about war.
I had a civil war once. We took breaks for tea and make small talk with each other. And even though it fucking hurt to get shot, at least they would apologize.
QuoteA group of artists has been asked to lighten the faces of children depicted in a giant public mural at a Prescott school.

The project's leader says he was ordered to lighten the skin tone after complaints about the children's ethnicity. But the school's principal says the request was only to fix shading and had nothing to do with political pressure.

The "Go on Green" mural, which covers two walls outside Miller Valley Elementary School, was designed to advertise a campaign for environmentally friendly transportation. It features portraits of four children, with a Hispanic boy as the dominant figure.

R.E. Wall, director of Prescott's Downtown Mural Project, said he and other artists were subjected to slurs from motorists as they worked on the painting at one of the town's most prominent intersections.

"We consistently, for two months, had people shouting racial slander from their cars," Wall said. "We had children painting with us, and here come these yells of (epithet for Blacks) and (epithet for Hispanics)."

Wall said school Principal Jeff Lane pressed him to make the children's faces appear happier and brighter.

"It is being lightened because of the controversy," Wall said, adding that "they want it to look like the children are coming into light."

Lane said that he received only three complaints about the mural and that his request for a touch-up had nothing to do with political pressure. "We asked them to fix the shading on the children's faces," he said. "We were looking at it from an artistic view. Nothing at all to do with race."
[emphasis mine]
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on June 04, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
The :cn: is the whole caveman theory.  I for one am fucking tired of it. 
You mean you're not a fan of evo-psych nonsense? I, for one, am shocked and appalled.

Oh, and it's also in the male's interest to have a strong mate. Human males take part in raising children, the 9 month investment that a female gives that a male doesn't isn't much in comparison to 10-15 years of raising a child (now closer to 20-25 years). The 9 months of pregnancy mean even less when you consider that it's in the male's interests to take care of the female while she is pregnant. Humans don't use the reproductive strategy of making as many offspring as possible. Our strategy is to create a few and ensure they survive.
Neuroscience is already killing the soul, a machine wouldn't be any more definitive to the people who believe it in than an actual understanding of consciousness. They'd twist in some way like how Venter's bacteria is being twisted as proof of creationism even if it is completely removing the supernatural.

I prefer much more concrete reasons. For example, 'because we can' is a great reason to me. Or, maybe, 'to see if we can.' Practicality be damned, doing something for the sake of doing it is why there's science.
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
The more research that is done on difference between sexes, the more it appears that our experiences are very different.

1. Some research indicates that men are far less spatially challenged than women. Due, not to stereotypes, but actual brain chemistry. The current theory is that men out hunting needed to find their way back home and passed on the good directional genes to their sons. One study of four year old's noted a 4:1 difference between boys that could process 3 dimensions to girls.

2. Some research indicates that women use more of their brain for smells and communication (by a large percent).

3. Some research indicates that the physical makeup of the male body has up to 10% more water than females.

4. Apparently women see colors better than men, since being able to process red is defined by the X chromosome.  

(saw it on so it must be true!)
Sounds a lot like evo-psych nonsense.

Oh, and women being able to see red better because it's on the X chromosome, that just strikes me as incredibly stupid. Only one X chromosome is even active per cell, males have the one and females inactivate one by storing it as a barr body.
I don't even remember how I found this shit.
Quote from: Hawk on June 03, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 03, 2010, 07:14:40 AM
I used to click awful shit like this all the time, but then one day I figured, enough, as I don't want to have all these memories of images like that in my brain. They do linger about, as I found out one time when I had a half-wake-half-sleep-early-morning-weirdness dream of something like a gigantic heap of dead crawling zombie babies that were eating eachother and also having sex with eachother and I was all like WTF how did my mind come up with that shit. taught me to not click on shiny links a long time ago.
But, but, shiny! You have to click the shiny! It is shiny.