Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM

Title: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
I've put a lot of thought into things, based on the 10 points thread.  It seems that I – or we – are simply not living up to the expectations of others.  We – some of us, anyway – are not the kind of people that decent folk want to associate with.  We are abrasive.  We are unpleasant.  We are the reason that the economy is in the shitter, why volcanoes erupt, and we signed Taylor Swift to a recording deal.

Okay, I can live with that.  I have no problem being the villain, if that is what people feel they must have, to form a complete community.  I can only speak for myself, of course, but seeing as how I cannot seem to live up to your high expectations, I shall endeavor to live down to your low expectations.  Indeed, I shall do so with a clear conscience, for three reasons:

One:   If you're gonna say it, I may as well do it.  Granted, some of you haven't said so in as many words, but Nigel and I being at fault seems to be the default position with just about everyone.  I am unsure whether this is intentional, or some fucked up attempt to be "fair & balanced", nor do I care.

Two:  I am often told that I am not meeting expectations, in one way or another, yet I am never told what those expectations are, and indeed when I ASK, I am told that I am being a dick and that I should just forget it, etc.  I will not wear myself out trying to attain an impossible standard, so I certainly won't drive myself batty trying to live up to a classified one.

Three:  A few of you decided that Nigel had to be included in this.  In fact, there have been references to "The Nigel and Roger Show", and "rogerandnigel.com".  It has in fact been hinted that one problem with the board is that we post too much.  Not that nobody else is posting, mind you, but that WE post too much.  Nigel and I have both reacted to this in different ways.  I will let her discuss her way if she so pleases...Contrary to popular myth, we are in fact two discreet people, not twins conjoined at the bile duct.  That being said, it's really fucking hard to express how angry it makes me when this sort of shit occurs.  

Now, I have come in the last couple of months to accept that RWHN isn't what I always thought he was.  He is, it turns out, a bit of a shitneck who has stated that we are his "entertainment", so I can hardly hold anyone else responsible for the bits of scum that splatter out of his mouth from time to time.  

But while he is an overt dickhead, he's hardly the only one who has cast me – and to some extent Nigel – as partners in crime, in the default bad guy in any and all situations (I have in fact been accused of ruining threads in which I never even posted, a feat that amazes the fuck out of me and one of which I didn't think myself capable).

So, to hell with it.  What I was doing wasn't working anyway.  Nobody was listening any fucking way.  There's no point trying to point at the elephant in the living room, if all people are going to do is holler at you, right?  So, while PD may not be your personal army, I will from here on out be your personal Snidely Whiplash, your Dick Cheney, your Osama Bin Ladin, and your Barack Obama.  I shall fulfill all of your persecution needs.  I may have to make a demo tape, to further advertise my services ("Whether you need a government destabilized, or just have an opponent's hand cut off, look no further!").

So who's afraid of The Good Reverend Roger?  

Fucking nobody.  You're fucking A right.

I totally lied about the no more rants and sermons thing, just to kick things off.

ETA:  Edited for accuracy.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 20, 2011, 06:08:39 PM
On behalf of the people here who don't find you and Nigel to be anything like what you said in the OP, can we still get the HOLY™ as Payne (our saviour, PBOH) intended?
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 20, 2011, 06:08:39 PM
On behalf of the people here who don't find you and Nigel to be anything like what you said in the OP, can we still get the HOLY™ as Payne (our saviour, PBOH) intended?

Oh, sure.  Holiness™ is still a goal, as it transcends monkeys.  But I have really good rates on lime pits and knee-capping.  And just in time for the holidays!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:20:53 PM
I will, of course, post my demo tape (youtube link) here when I finish it.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 20, 2011, 06:22:11 PM
I hope you know that my reference to RogerandNigel.com was

1) not intended to be a commentary on anything outside of the discussion being had at the time

and

2) something that arose strictly out of a combination of butthurt, frustration, and seasickness

and

3) I fucking love you guys, I think this board would be much poorer without your contributions, and I apologize for letting my own issues cause me snipe at you like that.

All of that said, I am thrilled to be able to finally get all of those people on my christmas list* the presents they so richly deserve.




*God help anybody who ever ends up on my christmas list. I hate christmas like Ringo hates Paul.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Cain on December 20, 2011, 06:24:08 PM
So....does this mean you're going to have a stroke and hand over control of your account to your brother, in accordance with the finest socialist traditions of meritocracy?

Not that I mind, just so I have an advance warning you start ordering us to trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_trim_our_hair_in_accordance_with_the_socialist_lifestyle).
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:25:03 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on December 20, 2011, 06:22:11 PM
I hope you know that my reference to RogerandNigel.com was

1) not intended to be a commentary on anything outside of the discussion being had at the time

and

2) something that arose strictly out of a combination of butthurt, frustration, and seasickness

and

3) I fucking love you guys, I think this board would be much poorer without your contributions, and I apologize for letting my own issues cause me snipe at you like that.

All of that said, I am thrilled to be able to finally get all of those people on my christmas list* the presents they so richly deserve.




*God help anybody who ever ends up on my christmas list. I hate christmas like Ringo hates Paul.

I didn't take it personally.  It didn't seem to have any actual malice behind it when you said it, like it did when the prohibition yahoo said it.

I can't speak for Nigel, though.

Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2011, 06:24:08 PM
So....does this mean you're going to have a stroke and hand over control of your account to your brother, in accordance with the finest socialist traditions of meritocracy?

Not that I mind, just so I have an advance warning you start ordering us to trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_trim_our_hair_in_accordance_with_the_socialist_lifestyle).

1.  You guys really don't want to meet my brother.  He's like me, only without the laughs.  That, and he's a hard core republican, which in his case makes sense.

2.  Should I in fact ever become retarded enough to take over, I intend to allow experts to handle things like this.  LMNO will be responsible for personal grooming standards, no matter what.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 20, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
MERKINS FOR ALL, MOTHERFUCKERS!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 20, 2011, 06:42:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2011, 06:24:08 PM
So....does this mean you're going to have a stroke and hand over control of your account to your brother, in accordance with the finest socialist traditions of meritocracy?

Not that I mind, just so I have an advance warning you start ordering us to trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_trim_our_hair_in_accordance_with_the_socialist_lifestyle).

1.  You guys really don't want to meet my brother.  He's like me, only without the laughs.  That, and he's a hard core republican, which in his case makes sense.

2.  Should I in fact ever become retarded enough to take over, I intend to allow experts to handle things like this.  LMNO will be responsible for personal grooming standards, no matter what.

This meets with my approval (not that you need it), except for:

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 20, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
MERKINS FOR ALL, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Before I agree, I would like to know who will be responsible for merkin inspection?

I would also like to file a complaint.  I blame you fuckers because I didn't have to Google that.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Faust on December 20, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM

Three:  It has in fact been hinted that one problem with the board is that we post too much.  Not that nobody else is posting, mind you, but that WE post too much.  Nigel and I have both reacted to this in different ways.  I will let her discuss her way if she so pleases...Contrary to popular myth, we are in fact two discreet people, not twins conjoined at the bile duct.  That being said, it's really fucking hard to express how angry it makes me when this sort of shit occurs.

I never said anything about you and Nigel, individually I said you both, separately, have among others the highest post rate on the forum. The problem IS that nobody else is posting but it is also further compounded when a thread is filled with five to ten times the amount of posts from one person then anyone else, this isn't just you, or her or any one person, the simple fact of the matter is if someone goes into a thread that is six pages long and five of those are all between one or two people it doesn't make them want to post, it does the opposite; They close the thread and move on.

If you want to get angry about what is an honest criticism I made that is nothing more the an attempt to try and keep things fresh then go ahead.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 20, 2011, 07:05:10 PM
Roger, I have a real response to your OP coming, but my bloody phone has dumped it twice.  I'll try again from home, typing it out on this thing again ain't happening.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 07:09:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
RWHN, in particular, felt that this would be a good way to hurt Nigel, the same way he once commented on her love life  "No wonder your relationships always fall apart".  If a comment like that is permissible, if behavior like the above is acceptable, then I guess there are NO FUCKING LIMITS, ANYWHERE.  This works for me.

When the hell did I say that?  Link?  I think you are confusing me with someone else.  I mean, I get your conniption fit with everything else I've been commenting on, and expected no less, but I do have to draw the line at making shit up. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 20, 2011, 07:12:20 PM
I saw it too whether it was you or not so hes not making it up.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 07:14:57 PM
Well, it would be great if someone could provide a link to it.  I mean, it's not something I would say because A) I haven't been following the various ins and outs of Nigels love life (I try to avoid those threads as much as I can, from ALL posters) and B) I don't care. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 20, 2011, 07:17:41 PM
Someone else would have to. Dont have that capability on the phone. Well i do it would just take ten times as long.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 20, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM

Three:  It has in fact been hinted that one problem with the board is that we post too much.  Not that nobody else is posting, mind you, but that WE post too much.  Nigel and I have both reacted to this in different ways.  I will let her discuss her way if she so pleases...Contrary to popular myth, we are in fact two discreet people, not twins conjoined at the bile duct.  That being said, it's really fucking hard to express how angry it makes me when this sort of shit occurs.

I never said anything about you and Nigel, individually I said you both, separately, have among others the highest post rate on the forum. The problem IS that nobody else is posting but it is also further compounded when a thread is filled with five to ten times the amount of posts from one person then anyone else, this isn't just you, or her or any one person, the simple fact of the matter is if someone goes into a thread that is six pages long and five of those are all between one or two people it doesn't make them want to post, it does the opposite; They close the thread and move on.

If you want to get angry about what is an honest criticism I made that is nothing more the an attempt to try and keep things fresh then go ahead.

I wasn't talking about your comment, Faust.  Sorry if that was unclear.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Faust on December 20, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 20, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM

Three:  It has in fact been hinted that one problem with the board is that we post too much.  Not that nobody else is posting, mind you, but that WE post too much.  Nigel and I have both reacted to this in different ways.  I will let her discuss her way if she so pleases...Contrary to popular myth, we are in fact two discreet people, not twins conjoined at the bile duct.  That being said, it's really fucking hard to express how angry it makes me when this sort of shit occurs.

I never said anything about you and Nigel, individually I said you both, separately, have among others the highest post rate on the forum. The problem IS that nobody else is posting but it is also further compounded when a thread is filled with five to ten times the amount of posts from one person then anyone else, this isn't just you, or her or any one person, the simple fact of the matter is if someone goes into a thread that is six pages long and five of those are all between one or two people it doesn't make them want to post, it does the opposite; They close the thread and move on.

If you want to get angry about what is an honest criticism I made that is nothing more the an attempt to try and keep things fresh then go ahead.

I wasn't talking about your comment, Faust.  Sorry if that was unclear.
Ok, sorry for taking offence.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
I'm still stewing in my own juices, and debated with myself whether or not to post in this thread at all. And then I decided that I will, if only to point out a few examples of the difference between a personal attack (on a person's being or character) and an attack on an idea or discrete behavior.

"What you said is stupid and wrong." <------- attacking an idea

"No wonder all of your relationships fall apart" <------ attacking a person

"I think it is evil to support stripping someone of the ability to better themselves as the result of a drug conviction" <------- attacking an ideology

"You sound like the Official Hobbyhorse of Portland" <------ attacking a person

"I'm really tired of your hypersensitive drama" <------ attacking a behavior

"You're a stubborn bitch" <------ attacking a person

"I'm not sure I'm convinced that he has the credentials he claims to have" <------ expressing doubt

"Slut" <------- attacking a person

"I have no more fucking patience for your misanthropic jaded schtick, it's old and boring" <------- attacking a behavior

"That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard anyone express and I cannot fathom what made you say it, are you attention-whoring or something?" <------ attacking an idea

"It's not hard to see how you drove your husband away" <------- attacking a person

"Can you please stop shitting up everyone else's threads?" <------- attacking a behavior

"I don't like you" <------- I'm not really sure, this is somewhere between a personal attack and a statement of fact. It's definitely closer to a personal attack than an attack on any expressed ideas or behaviors, though. It's essentially the same as "you suck", but it could also be expressed as "you rub me the wrong way" which isn't really offensive.

Anyway, I would like to point out that almost invariably, if I tangle with someone who has already decided they don't like me (or one of the histrionic drama club members) and I attack their ideas or their behaviors, it is about 90% likelihood that they will retaliate with a personal jab designed to hit in one of the areas that I have already expressed sensitivity about, such as my love live, my attempts to date, my financial situation, or trivializing my job, whether it's relevant to the discussion or not. It's apparently a miracle of restraint that no one has gone after my kids, and I'm glad PD has the general ethic that kids are off-limits when you're trying to hurt someone's feelings.

I sure as hell have my share of personal attacks I've dished out, but in general (and I admit, I am less reserved about this sort of thing when it comes to new people who show up here with a misogynistic of homophobic rhetoric) I save personal attacks for people who have first broken that membrane with me, and thought for some reason that instead of apologizing, they could just wait a few weeks and all would be forgotten.

Keep in mind, of course, that while I may be tough as nails, I still have feelings, so when someone uses an intimate detail of my life that I am struggling to jab me with because they're butthurt that I've explained to them why their argument is stupid (or their leading character isn't believable) and they can't support it well enough to argue themselves out of the corner they've painted themselves into, it still gets to me. I don't usually BAWWWW and take my toys and go home, but if I have any respect for that person at the time, it hurts. After that, of course, any respect I had goes out the window, my skin gets a little thicker, I put them on my permanent fuck you list, and I move on. But just in case anyone is thinking "Nigel's a big girl, she can handle it"... yeah, sure I can handle it. So could you. What, would you curl up in a little ball in the corner and die if someone called you an untalented venomous abrasive slut bitch hobbyhorse who drives away everyone you love? No, you wouldn't. You could handle it just fine, the same way I do. With a sick ball in your stomach and a little tightness in your ribcage and a mild dread of logging in for a day or so.

Sometimes I think maybe I should change, and become meek and quiet and not tear down people's arguments and not demand supporting evidence and not have opinions and not be open about my sexuality and my life, and be a good, meek, demure modest girl... you know, the kind that doesn't get called "slut" or "bitch" or "willful" when she scores in an argument. But then I think, FUCK THAT, what kind of life is that? I don't want it.

And really, I also don't know if I want to continue posting here. Believe it or not, the worst thing I have read here today is the suggestion that maybe I shouldn't participate in a conversation I'm enjoying if not a lot of other people are posting. Shush, Nigel; your voice is too loud.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:09:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
RWHN, in particular, felt that this would be a good way to hurt Nigel, the same way he once commented on her love life  "No wonder your relationships always fall apart".  If a comment like that is permissible, if behavior like the above is acceptable, then I guess there are NO FUCKING LIMITS, ANYWHERE.  This works for me.

When the hell did I say that?  Link?  I think you are confusing me with someone else.  I mean, I get your conniption fit with everything else I've been commenting on, and expected no less, but I do have to draw the line at making shit up. 

I have no idea whether that was you; I don't remember who it was. However, I did use it in a PM with him (not attributed) as an example of the baffling conundrum of why THAT kind of shit goes by without comment, while "I'm not sure I'm convinced he actually works/is qualified in that field because it seems like he's trolling" (paraphrased) is taken as a "personal attack".
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:09:14 PM
When the hell did I say that?  Link?  I think you are confusing me with someone else. 

That's entirely possible, as my memory isn't what it used to be when I was a little girl.  However, we're not real, so why should accuracy count?  It's only entertainment.  It doesn't mean anything, right?  Right right right?  We're just a phosphor dot on your screen.  You have no problem saying awful shit without regard for accuracy (and that I CAN provide a link for), so I'm not gonna run out and hire the Rand Corporation to fact check for me.  I am sure Nigel remembers who said it.  She can issue a clarification if she feels the need to, one way or the other.

Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:09:14 PM

I mean, I get your conniption fit with everything else I've been commenting on, and expected no less, but I do have to draw the line at making shit up. 

I didn't make it up...And the conniption fit was exactly what you wanted, so why the hell are you complaining?  Are you not entertained?
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
And here we go with the exaggerated nonsense.  Right on cue.  You do this a lot.  I think the point I was making was pretty clear which is that I come here for fun now vs. content.  To anyone who is objective, that means that I'm not coming here anymore to write rants or essays on BIP or treatises on Shrapnel.  My head is not into that anymore, not here.  But, I still like to come and hang out, have fun, be entertained. 

No, but you and Nigel have taken this to mean that I'm coming here to be entertained by the drama and shenanigans.  Nope.  I find that rather dull and boring because it's the same show over and over again.  Same plot, different characters. 

And as I've said I still hang around because of the relationships I've forged.  Yes, I don't have especially great relationships with either you or Nigel but I think there are some pretty self-evident reasons for that.  My personality really doesn't jive with yours.  I doubt we'd hit it off all that well if we ever met IRL.  We just aren't the type of folks who mix.  But, there's nothing wrong with that on either end of that equation.  It takes all kind of course. 

But anyway, I really must protest attaching my name to this quote about Nigels relationships falling apart.  It just isn't the kind of thing I would say, because as I said, it's not something I follow because I don't care. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Freeky on December 20, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
"No wonder all of your relationships fall apart"  <--- or something to that effect, via DiscoPickle.  Also, IIRC, he also called Nigel a stubborn bitch.

Also, TTM said something similar at one time, I think maybe.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:38:55 PM
I also want to comment that the passive-aggressive jabs are not unnoticed. When someone mentions at every possible passing opportunity how bored they are by a specific (old, inactive) thread and how they never read it and don't care about it, it's pretty obvious that it's meant as a personal jab.

RWHN, you have had it out for me ever since I complained about the puns choking unrelated content threads to death. You have focused on the fact that I don't like puns (which is exactly as personal as someone not liking beads) and completely ignored that what I was actually objecting to was that you, or someone, would post a pun in someone else's thread, and for some reason a bunch of people would jump on board and the thread would turn into a pun competition, effectively killing it.

You have two or three pun threads floating around the board; that's perfect. That's a great place to have a pun-off. A pun here and there isn't a bad thing. It's when they were choking off content threads that, IMO, it was a problem. But since I objected to that and asked if we could please just nip that trend in the bud, you have been making passive-aggressive little pokes at me all over the board, perhaps thinking you were being subtle or something, and I largely ignore them. But I notice them, and frankly, sir, you are a huge, pink, inflamed anus. <------ personal attack
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 20, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
Rwhn- while you didnt say the no wonder line and while i understood what you meant by entertainment i think there main focus going on here from nigel is ad hominem attacks. Just because you didnt do one doesnt mean you didnt do another. I cant say either way. As ive mentioned i get sick of board drama pretty quick. Im not sure why im even jumping in here.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on December 20, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
Rwhn- while you didnt say the no wonder line and while i understood what you meant by entertainment i think there main focus going on here from nigel is ad hominem attacks. Just because you didnt do one doesnt mean you didnt do another. I cant say either way. As ive mentioned i get sick of board drama pretty quick. Im not sure why im even jumping in here.

Oh, I'm not even specifying him in those. I think his worst was the "I don't like you, don't talk to me" line, which he pulled out because I was badgering him for citations and making fun of his whole "confidential sources higher up" thing.

The rest of it is all other people. I posted this in response to his, and other, posts in the 10 points thread insinuating and/or saying outright that I am the main culprit in launching personal attacks on the board.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Cain on December 20, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
I don't like beads or puns.  Or even Star Wars.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:38:55 PM
RWHN, you have had it out for me ever since I complained about the puns choking unrelated content threads to death. You have focused on the fact that I don't like puns (which is exactly as personal as someone not liking beads) and completely ignored that what I was actually objecting to was that you, or someone, would post a pun in someone else's thread, and for some reason a bunch of people would jump on board and the thread would turn into a pun competition, effectively killing it.

Nope.  I could care less whether or not you like the puns.  And I would note that I actually have taken great care to not post puns in other people's threads unless it was a silly thread and it was a poster who I knew wouldn't mind.  More often or not it is the "everyone else piling on" that derails the thread.  It seemed to have evolved to the point that whenever I made a pun, everyone thought I was trying to start a pun-off, which is never the case.  It's not my fault everyone does that.  (I guess I have pun-mind-control lazers or something)

And I've admitted in the past that I'm not all that fond of you.  But it's just a personality thing.  You are who you are, I am who I am.  But where it went too far, for me, was casting me as a fraud.  That I had made up over all these years everything about my education and my profession.  And then more than one person jumped onto that bandwagon.  I mean, that's kind of harsh, I think.  To label someone a fraud.  A community member who's been here for over 6 years and has contributed a lot of time and effort into the community.  To be labeled a fraud.  Yeah, that does still irk me quite a bit.  Ook Ook!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 20, 2011, 07:38:55 PM
RWHN, you have had it out for me ever since I complained about the puns choking unrelated content threads to death. You have focused on the fact that I don't like puns (which is exactly as personal as someone not liking beads) and completely ignored that what I was actually objecting to was that you, or someone, would post a pun in someone else's thread, and for some reason a bunch of people would jump on board and the thread would turn into a pun competition, effectively killing it.

Nope.  I could care less whether or not you like the puns.  And I would note that I actually have taken great care to not post puns in other people's threads unless it was a silly thread and it was a poster who I knew wouldn't mind.  More often or not it is the "everyone else piling on" that derails the thread.  It seemed to have evolved to the point that whenever I made a pun, everyone thought I was trying to start a pun-off, which is never the case.  It's not my fault everyone does that.  (I guess I have pun-mind-control lazers or something)

And I've admitted in the past that I'm not all that fond of you.  But it's just a personality thing.  You are who you are, I am who I am.  But where it went too far, for me, was casting me as a fraud.  That I had made up over all these years everything about my education and my profession.  And then more than one person jumped onto that bandwagon.  I mean, that's kind of harsh, I think.  To label someone a fraud.  A community member who's been here for over 6 years and has contributed a lot of time and effort into the community.  To be labeled a fraud.  Yeah, that does still irk me quite a bit.  Ook Ook!

When I asked whether multiple points of view on drug legalization could be valid, you replied "nope", called my public health expert friend "misinformed", refused to explain, and then when asked how you felt qualified to challenge her credentials, refused to so much as state WHAT degree you have. This, along with your very trolly behavior, led me to state that I doubted whether you were what you said you were. And I did doubt it. I do not apologize for doubting it. When you told Kai and Kai said that you were legitimate, I publicly conceded. I do not apologize, because I don't think I did a badwrong thing to QUESTION you. I will not apologize for my doubt.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 20, 2011, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
And here we go with the exaggerated nonsense.  Right on cue.  You do this a lot.  I think the point I was making was pretty clear which is that I come here for fun now vs. content.  To anyone who is objective, that means that I'm not coming here anymore to write rants or essays on BIP or treatises on Shrapnel.  My head is not into that anymore, not here.  But, I still like to come and hang out, have fun, be entertained.  

No, but you and Nigel have taken this to mean that I'm coming here to be entertained by the drama and shenanigans.  Nope.  I find that rather dull and boring because it's the same show over and over again.  Same plot, different characters.  

And as I've said I still hang around because of the relationships I've forged.  Yes, I don't have especially great relationships with either you or Nigel but I think there are some pretty self-evident reasons for that.  My personality really doesn't jive with yours.  I doubt we'd hit it off all that well if we ever met IRL.  We just aren't the type of folks who mix.  But, there's nothing wrong with that on either end of that equation.  It takes all kind of course.  

But anyway, I really must protest attaching my name to this quote about Nigels relationships falling apart.  It just isn't the kind of thing I would say, because as I said, it's not something I follow because I don't care.  

So, you find drama boring, and yet you (almost exclusively) start threads and make posts that you yourself admit can ONLY cause drama?

Either I'm missing something here, or you're wrapped up in a skullfuckingly stupendous amount of cognitive dissonance.

Oh, and just for the record...

If you think that questioning your professional credentials in a thread where you're relying on those supposed credentials to establish your authority on a subject is a "personal attack" yet you won't even tell the people taking part in the discussion what those supposed credentials actually are, then you might be better served by a forum that's more your speed.

I suggest www.bloviatingandself-deluded.com   <---- (actual personal attack)
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
I don't like beads or puns.  Or even Star Wars.

YOU MONSTER!  :argh!:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 20, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
Y'know, this is stupid and pointless.

I think RWHN should get pledged.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
Yes, when someone else told you it was okay to believe me, you believed me, well them.  You have just captured the dynamic that, I believe, is hurting this place very beautifully.  As did TGRR by falsely accusing me of saying something that someone else said.  Lack of respect.

But I'm sorry that my poking you has apparently caused some additional stress on the board.  It was not intentional.  No, on a personal level, I don't dig you.  But I will make a better effort to not let that effect the board.

It would be great if you and TGRR could take some similar steps when you disagree with me.  
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 20, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
For what it's worth, I still don't believe you, I just believe that Kai believes he has no reason to not believe you.

Though I'm sure that people make the leap to your current supposed position from where you were working when I met you all the time. <----(sometimes personal attacks and valid points are not mutually exclusive)
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on December 20, 2011, 08:10:48 PM
Every single one of us has at some time attacked someone else directly and on a personal level here on this board.  There is no sugarcoating it with "Oh I mean this" or "I was attacking their idea/behavior".  The fact is we've all done it and the sooner everyone realizes we've all played a part in the clusterfuck the sooner we can reach a way to fucking fix it.  There is no one person or persons to blame in any of this it is each and every one of us.  

In the meantime with the he said she said they said bullshit all that has happened is the drama is in full swing, yet again, as usual.

I've done it and I'll be the first to step up to the plate and say I have.  

There is not going to be any kind of fix until the mentality is changed.  Until we can afford each other (not n00bs, not the fucking idiots who hit and run us or the many versions of poptard) but each other the respect we each deserve as evolved bi-peds then nothing is going to change.

Nature abhors a vacuum and we have allowed ourselves to become a giant fun sucking one!  

So, I'm droppping my stone and I strongly suggest the rest of you do the same, glass is fucking expensive, both emotionally and mentally.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 20, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
DAMMIT, THIS IS HARD.

FOCUS, ECH. FOCUS.

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

RWHN. PLEDGE. YOU CAN DO IT. AND SO SHOULD MOST EVERYONE ELSE.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 20, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on December 20, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
For what it's worth, I still don't believe you, I just believe that Kai believes he has no reason to not believe you.

Though I'm sure that people make the leap to your current supposed position from where you were working when I met you all the time. <----(sometimes personal attacks and valid points are not mutually exclusive)

I dunno if this is relevant but when you posted this your post count read: -23cents. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 08:18:28 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
Yes, when someone else told you it was okay to believe me, you believed me, well them.  You have just captured the dynamic that, I believe, is hurting this place very beautifully.  As did TGRR by falsely accusing me of saying something that someone else said.  Lack of respect.

But I'm sorry that my poking you has apparently caused some additional stress on the board.  It was not intentional.  No, on a personal level, I don't dig you.  But I will make a better effort to not let that effect the board.

It would be great if you and TGRR could take some similar steps when you disagree with me.  

I had no choice but to take Kai's word that you had actually stated what your degree was. Had you stated it publicly I would also have had no reason to disbelieve you, but you refused to. That was, in fact, the only thing I asked you, was a direct statement of what your actual training and/or degree was. I became doubtful when you refused to state it.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on December 20, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
DAMMIT, THIS IS HARD.

FOCUS, ECH. FOCUS.

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

RWHN. PLEDGE. YOU CAN DO IT. AND SO SHOULD MOST EVERYONE ELSE.

Holy shit, you're right! I got sucked in.

PLEDGE.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Scribbly on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 20, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
I've put a lot of thought into things, based on the 10 points thread.  It seems that I – or we – are simply not living up to the expectations of others.  We – some of us, anyway – are not the kind of people that decent folk want to associate with.  We are abrasive.  We are unpleasant.  We are the reason that the economy is in the shitter, why volcanoes erupt, and we signed Taylor Swift to a recording deal.

Okay, I can live with that.  I have no problem being the villain, if that is what people feel they must have, to form a complete community.  I can only speak for myself, of course, but seeing as how I cannot seem to live up to your high expectations, I shall endeavor to live down to your low expectations.  Indeed, I shall do so with a clear conscience, for three reasons:

One:   If you're gonna say it, I may as well do it.  Granted, some of you haven't said so in as many words, but Nigel and I being at fault seems to be the default position with just about everyone.  I am unsure whether this is intentional, or some fucked up attempt to be "fair & balanced", nor do I care.

I've said it a lot in the other thread, I'll say it again here just because; I don't think your impression of what people think they 'must have' is accurate. Everyone respects you. I think most people respect Nigel (I know I sure do). I do think you are too quick to believe everyone is banding together to attack you, or paint you as the villain. I think if you look over it, objectively, you have far more supporters than detractors, and even your detractors aren't saying 'zomg Roger is the cancer that is killing PD'.

QuoteTwo:  I am often told that I am not meeting expectations, in one way or another, yet I am never told what those expectations are, and indeed when I ASK, I am told that I am being a dick and that I should just forget it, etc.  I will not wear myself out trying to attain an impossible standard, so I certainly won't drive myself batty trying to live up to a classified one.

We were talking about standards in general in the other thread; like it or not, a lot of your ten thoughts boil down to standards of what is acceptable. For my part, I feel I stated what I'd like to see fairly plainly. I'd like discussions to focus on ideas rather than individuals. That's all. I can't speak for anyone else, but that is what I would like to see at PD, and what would help me work up the energy to post more often.

QuoteThree:  A few of you decided that Nigel had to be included in this.  In fact, there have been references to "The Nigel and Roger Show", and "rogerandnigel.com".  It has in fact been hinted that one problem with the board is that we post too much.  Not that nobody else is posting, mind you, but that WE post too much.  Nigel and I have both reacted to this in different ways.  I will let her discuss her way if she so pleases...Contrary to popular myth, we are in fact two discreet people, not twins conjoined at the bile duct.  That being said, it's really fucking hard to express how angry it makes me when this sort of shit occurs.  RWHN, in particular, felt that this would be a good way to hurt Nigel, the same way he once commented on her love life  "No wonder your relationships always fall apart".  If a comment like that is permissible, if behavior like the above is acceptable, then I guess there are NO FUCKING LIMITS, ANYWHERE.  This works for me.

Disco Pickle is a giant cock (<--- personal attack) and that's already been dealt with so...

Nigel, thanks for posting those examples. They gave me a laugh, and they help illustrate how it can be difficult to tell the difference; but also where it isn't.

QuoteNow, I have come in the last couple of months to accept that RWHN isn't what I always thought he was.  He is, it turns out, a bit of a shitneck who has stated that we are his "entertainment", so I can hardly hold anyone else responsible for the bits of scum that splatter out of his mouth from time to time.  

But while he is an overt dickhead, he's hardly the only one who has cast me – and to some extent Nigel – as partners in crime, in the default bad guy in any and all situations (I have in fact been accused of ruining threads in which I never even posted, a feat that amazes the fuck out of me and one of which I didn't think myself capable).

Please see above I guess. Whilst you may have your detractors, I think you are overstating the general 'anti Roger & Nigel' feeling on the board. Because I don't think that feeling exists. I think almost everyone likes you guys.

QuoteSo, to hell with it.  What I was doing wasn't working anyway.  Nobody was listening any fucking way.  There's no point trying to point at the elephant in the living room, if all people are going to do is holler at you, right?  So, while PD may not be your personal army, I will from here on out be your personal Snidely Whiplash, your Dick Cheney, your Osama Bin Ladin, and your Barack Obama.  I shall fulfill all of your persecution needs.  I may have to make a demo tape, to further advertise my services ("Whether you need a government destabilized, or just have an opponent's hand cut off, look no further!").

It always makes me a little bit irritated when you say things like the bolded. You've been set off by people (apparently) casting you to unrealistic standards. I can appreciate that you feel what was happening wasn't working; but I've done my best to listen, and hear, and engage. MOST people here have, I'd bet. I did my damned best to try and engage with the ten points you made, too. As did Twid, and LMNO, and in fact, almost everyone posting in the thread. You pointed at the elephant in the room. We tried to go 'holy fuck look at that thing'. Then it all got derailed into, well, this. And now nobody was listening.

I don't know if there was any point to posting the above. I'm exhausted, and it seems like any good that could have come out of the afternoon's drama is going to be swallowed up in personal affront and upset instead.

Oh well.

Forget it. It's PD, Jake.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Disco Pickle on December 20, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
Yeah, that quip to Nigel was from me, even if that's not (possibly) the exact wording I used, that was the gist of it.  I immediately felt shitty about hitting post much less typing it and apologized but the damage was done.

Not my proudest post here, but I did it and RWHN shouldn't be saddled with my phallic tendencies. 

That being said, it's not that I dislike you Nigel, and I don't remember the context of the thread, you just rubbed me the wrong way and I decided to throw some shit. 

That was actually the post that made me decide to cut back on posting anything at all, because I do not behave that way in person and don't want to do so here anymore, behind a computer monitor.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 12:23:03 AM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
And here we go with the exaggerated nonsense.  Right on cue.  You do this a lot.  I think the point I was making was pretty clear which is that I come here for fun now vs. content.  To anyone who is objective, that means that I'm not coming here anymore to write rants or essays on BIP or treatises on Shrapnel.  My head is not into that anymore, not here.  But, I still like to come and hang out, have fun, be entertained.  

No, but you and Nigel have taken this to mean that I'm coming here to be entertained by the drama and shenanigans.  Nope.  I find that rather dull and boring because it's the same show over and over again.  Same plot, different characters.  

And as I've said I still hang around because of the relationships I've forged.  Yes, I don't have especially great relationships with either you or Nigel but I think there are some pretty self-evident reasons for that.  My personality really doesn't jive with yours.  I doubt we'd hit it off all that well if we ever met IRL.  We just aren't the type of folks who mix.  But, there's nothing wrong with that on either end of that equation.  It takes all kind of course.  

But anyway, I really must protest attaching my name to this quote about Nigels relationships falling apart.  It just isn't the kind of thing I would say, because as I said, it's not something I follow because I don't care.  

Well, I apologize for putting Disco Pickles' words in your mouth.  I remembered incorrectly, and probably should have checked even without the benefit of our sterling search feature.  My bad, entirely.

That being said, you're still an asshole based on the other things I said, which I am in no means uncertain of.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 12:23:28 AM
There, can we now change the OP to reflect this change?  I mean, it's the decent thing to do, right?  
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 12:23:03 AM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 20, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
And here we go with the exaggerated nonsense.  Right on cue.  You do this a lot.  I think the point I was making was pretty clear which is that I come here for fun now vs. content.  To anyone who is objective, that means that I'm not coming here anymore to write rants or essays on BIP or treatises on Shrapnel.  My head is not into that anymore, not here.  But, I still like to come and hang out, have fun, be entertained.  

No, but you and Nigel have taken this to mean that I'm coming here to be entertained by the drama and shenanigans.  Nope.  I find that rather dull and boring because it's the same show over and over again.  Same plot, different characters.  

And as I've said I still hang around because of the relationships I've forged.  Yes, I don't have especially great relationships with either you or Nigel but I think there are some pretty self-evident reasons for that.  My personality really doesn't jive with yours.  I doubt we'd hit it off all that well if we ever met IRL.  We just aren't the type of folks who mix.  But, there's nothing wrong with that on either end of that equation.  It takes all kind of course.  

But anyway, I really must protest attaching my name to this quote about Nigels relationships falling apart.  It just isn't the kind of thing I would say, because as I said, it's not something I follow because I don't care.  

Well, I apologize for putting Disco Pickles' words in your mouth.  I remembered incorrectly, and probably should have checked even without the benefit of our sterling search feature.  My bad, entirely.

That being said, you're still an asshole based on the other things I said, which I am in no means uncertain of.

I love you too tough guy!   :lol:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 03:14:58 AM
I appreciate it, Demolition Squid. Thank you.

I suspect that people often think that passionate, outspoken people with strong opinions and strong voices are somehow unfeeling megaliths or cartoons with no human emotions, which is why they feel completely free to say and do fucked-up shit to them like call their workplace or their parents or call them names or tell them that they deserve whatever they might be suffering.

Somewhat horrifically, the opposite is usually true; passionate people often feel things ruinously keenly, which is why they are so passionate and outspoken in the first place, and why what seems like a minor slight to others may get magnified to outsized proportions.

Whatever whatever sad music everybody cries.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Pæs on December 21, 2011, 06:29:10 AM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
it seems like any good that could have come out of the afternoon's drama is going to be swallowed up in personal affront and upset instead.

Oh well.

Forget it. It's PD, Jake.

This is the lesson we should all take from the events of the last day or so.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
I would sincerely and politely make another request that the OP is changed to reflect the truth of what was said and by whom. In other words, not me. 

Thanks in advance!
MLiaC
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
I would sincerely and politely make another request that the OP is changed to reflect the truth of what was said and by whom. In other words, not me. 

Thanks in advance!
MLiaC

Done.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 01:51:43 PM
Thank you. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
A bunch of fairly accurate stuff

Don't worry so much.  I just want that cool beard Fidel has.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 21, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
A bunch of fairly accurate stuff

Don't worry so much.  I just want that cool beard Fidel has.

Just comb the back hair around...
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Scribbly on December 21, 2011, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
A bunch of fairly accurate stuff

Don't worry so much.  I just want that cool beard Fidel has.

That's fair.

Be careful with the cigars though, I hear that's how they get you.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 21, 2011, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 20, 2011, 08:51:55 PM
A bunch of fairly accurate stuff

Don't worry so much.  I just want that cool beard Fidel has.

That's fair.

Be careful with the cigars though, I hear that's how they get you someone entirely unrelated.

Fixed.  We are talking about the CIA, after all.

Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Cramulus on December 21, 2011, 02:23:46 PM
Hey clarify for me - is this thread a reaction to my sentiment that I don't like forums where everybody's flaming and intense all the time? Is this mis-framing my statement "[the problem with PD] is not just roger and nigel, it's everybody" as "the problem with PD is just roger"? I get the sense that this is aimed at me, and if it is, I think you missed my point.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 21, 2011, 02:23:46 PM
Hey clarify for me - is this thread a reaction to my sentiment that I don't like forums where everybody's flaming and intense all the time? Is this mis-framing my statement "[the problem with PD] is not just roger and nigel, it's everybody" as "the problem with PD is just roger"? I get the sense that this is aimed at me, and if it is, I think you missed my point.

Nope, it was just a general tantrum, though the actual part of your post that was offensive to me was in fact mentioned.  That would be the bit about how I (we, actually), are not the kind of people you wish to be associated with1.  The part I misunderstood (the Roger & Nigel bit) has fallen by the wayside after your explanation.



1  Hearing that from someone you respect is a bit of an attitude changer.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Cramulus on December 21, 2011, 02:47:35 PM
I didn't say you weren't the kind of people I wanted to be associated with.

What I said was that the atmosphere here often gets so hostile and judgmental that it's difficult for me to identify with the place. You asked why people are posting less - for me at least, that's why. That's not a statement about you and I'm sorry if it came off that way.


Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 21, 2011, 02:47:35 PM
I didn't say you weren't the kind of people I wanted to be associated with.

What I said was that the atmosphere here often gets so hostile and judgmental that it's difficult for me to identify with the place. You asked why people are posting less - for me at least, that's why. That's not a statement about you and I'm sorry if it came off that way.




Okay, my bad.  Sorry about that.  I seem to have developed a reading comprehension problem.



But now you've ruined a perfectly good fit of rage.  :crankey:

mumble mumble kids these days why in my day when we zombied out we shambled around by 4 AM not noon and when we ate a woman's brain, we did it with respect for the woman mumble mumble
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2011, 03:34:13 PM
They should giving brains for free like the sexing and not pay for.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 03:34:13 PM
They should giving brains for free like the sexing and not pay for.

I should be free for brain sexing because more brain sexing makes the happier.  Dick-shaped hole in Roger brain, everybody happy, yes.  

Who we are?
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
Estamos dando a la gente, las personas que comparten. Nosotros le obligará a compartir, y lo hará, ya que fueron construidas para nuestro uso. Estamos utilizando la gente, la gente que utiliza la gente. Queremos que la gente a utilizar, para nuestro uso. Que deberían estar contentos que estamos con ellos, para servir a su propósito.

¿Quiénes somos?
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
Estamos dando a la gente, las personas que comparten. Nosotros le obligará a compartir, y lo hará, ya que fueron construidas para nuestro uso. Estamos utilizando la gente, la gente que utiliza la gente. Queremos que la gente a utilizar, para nuestro uso. Que deberían estar contentos que estamos con ellos, para servir a su propósito.

¿Quiénes somos?

I DON'T SPEAK BELGIAN!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
In that case, we are obviously not the Belgian people.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
In that case, we are obviously not the Belgian people.

Assumes facts not in evidence.  We had an American president that couldn't speak English, and the Canadians had a prime minster that couldn't speak either national language.

We may in fact be Belgians from Texas.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2011, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
In that case, we are obviously not the Belgian people.

Assumes facts not in evidence.  We had an American president that couldn't speak English, and the Canadians had a prime minster that couldn't speak either national language.

We may in fact be Belgians from Texas.

:baby:



Texas Belgians who listen to Bryan Adams, even!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
In that case, we are obviously not the Belgian people.

Assumes facts not in evidence.  We had an American president that couldn't speak English, and the Canadians had a prime minster that couldn't speak either national language.

We may in fact be Belgians from Texas.

:baby:



Texas Belgians who listen to Bryan Adams, even!

Let's don't go overboard, here.

Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Scribbly on December 21, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.

I love you guys, but I hate banks.

Why you gotta make me choose, Roger?  :cry:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.

YOU BE BONNIE, I'LL BE CLYDE!
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.

YOU BE BONNIE, I'LL BE CLYDE!

Only if you promise to kill at least one G-Man by clubbing him with your dick.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 21, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.

I love you guys, but I hate banks.

Why you gotta make me choose, Roger?  :cry:

Life is all about difficult choices, Demo.  For example, I am currently forced to choose between putting this can of tuna I just opened above Filthy Assistant's office ceiling risers, or Mike the Engineer's.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

In fairness, just simply because of the way you and Roger have a - suffer no bullshit - attitude, coupled with the fact that you are incredibly popular posters on here I can understand how a lot of fuckhead noobs think you're everything that's wrong with this place. Don't take it to heart. They're called "fuckheads" for a reason and it isn't their reproductive prowess. But to the rest of us, you're the PD immune system. So maybe we don't always see eye to eye but pls to not conflate that to us siding with the fuckheads. Two separate issues.

Speaking for myself of course but I don't remember any established poster ever saying you're what's wrong with this place.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

And if you DO insist, we're gonna start robbing banks together, using tommy guns.

Then you'll fucking be sorry.

YOU BE BONNIE, I'LL BE CLYDE!

Only if you promise to kill at least one G-Man by clubbing him with your dick.

Well, DUH.

When do we start?
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

In fairness, just simply because of the way you and Roger have a - suffer no bullshit - attitude, coupled with the fact that you are incredibly popular posters on here I can understand how a lot of fuckhead noobs think you're everything that's wrong with this place. Don't take it to heart. They're called "fuckheads" for a reason and it isn't their reproductive prowess. But to the rest of us, you're the PD immune system. So maybe we don't always see eye to eye but pls to not conflate that to us siding with the fuckheads. Two separate issues.

Speaking for myself of course but I don't remember any established poster ever saying you're what's wrong with this place.

Thanks, P3nt. :)

(by "popular" I assume you mean "have too much fucking time on your hands and post all the goddamn time")
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

Great.  But I do still think the amped-up aggression that pops up in this place is still a problem.  No, I don't think it is limited to you two at all.  It is definitely something the whole board community could work on, I think.  This stuff with Khore is a good example where many cooks are stirring the pot.

Just stop replying to the guy if he pisses you off that much.  Stop looking for a reason to go nuclear on him.  It only drags the drama out and definitely is a damper on this forum having any kind of productive conversations or discourse.  I mean, we had a couple of good conversations going and then "holy fuck what did he say?!?!?"

Can't we all just relax and ease up a bit?  
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Scribbly on December 21, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

Great.  But I do still think the amped-up aggression that pops up in this place is still a problem.  No, I don't think it is limited to you two at all.  It is definitely something the whole board community could work on, I think.  This stuff with Khore is a good example where many cooks are stirring the pot.

Just stop replying to the guy if he pisses you off that much.  Stop looking for a reason to go nuclear on him.  It only drags the drama out and definitely is a damper on this forum having any kind of productive conversations or discourse.  I mean, we had a couple of good conversations going and then "holy fuck what did he say?!?!?"

Can't we all just relax and ease up a bit?  

The atmosphere today has been pretty relaxed and great.

Maybe if we stop picking at the scab, it'll heal.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
This stuff with Khore is a good example where many cooks are stirring the pot.

There's precisely one (1) person stirring that pot.

Pretty sure it's Khore.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 21, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

Great.  But I do still think the amped-up aggression that pops up in this place is still a problem.  No, I don't think it is limited to you two at all.  It is definitely something the whole board community could work on, I think.  This stuff with Khore is a good example where many cooks are stirring the pot.

Just stop replying to the guy if he pisses you off that much.  Stop looking for a reason to go nuclear on him.  It only drags the drama out and definitely is a damper on this forum having any kind of productive conversations or discourse.  I mean, we had a couple of good conversations going and then "holy fuck what did he say?!?!?"

Can't we all just relax and ease up a bit?  

The atmosphere today has been pretty relaxed and great.

Maybe if we stop picking at the scab, it'll heal.

But we're doin' it wrong.  :(
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Okay, nevermind.  As you were. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/bnc.jpg)
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Okay, nevermind.  As you were.  

No, no, you're quite correct.  One new and blatant troll is of greater worth than all existing members.

It's absolutely impossible that he is deliberately stirring shit.  The only viable solution is that we're all picking on the poor little darling, like the bastards that we are.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
Nope, I was wrong.  Chalk it up to indigestion. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Okay, nevermind.  As you were.  

No, no, you're quite correct.  One new and blatant troll is of greater worth than all existing members.

It's absolutely impossible that he is deliberately stirring shit.  The only viable solution is that we're all picking on the poor little darling, like the bastards that we are.

I'm strangely comfortable with that. The only thing that bugs about the internet is you don't get to see the fuckhead break down in tears or start throwing punches which happens IRL and can't be recommended enough.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Okay, nevermind.  As you were.  

No, no, you're quite correct.  One new and blatant troll is of greater worth than all existing members.

It's absolutely impossible that he is deliberately stirring shit.  The only viable solution is that we're all picking on the poor little darling, like the bastards that we are.

I'm strangely comfortable with that. The only thing that bugs about the internet is you don't get to see the fuckhead break down in tears or start throwing punches which happens IRL and can't be recommended enough.

Oh, no argument there.

But you and I are bad people in a world full of plaster saints.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Phox on December 21, 2011, 04:55:58 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
.I mean, we had a couple of good conversations going and then "holy fuck what did he say?!?!?" 
Actually, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume the worst when a particularly nasty insult you are familiar with is thrown out in a language that you don't speak well. Turns out it was part of a colloquial phrase in Spanish Spanish that doesn't exist in Latin American Spanish, and not an insult after all, but that's slightly beside the point. And I wouldn't call those conversations "good". In any sense. They were over before that happened, anyway.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/bnc.jpg)

I am distrbed, but oddly aroused. TGRR has a GREAT ass, there.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on December 21, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
I want to say that I appreciate the clarification given by people who have specifically mentioned "Roger and Nigel" in reference to "the problem". That said, three or four instances of that in a week, and it starts to take on a life of its own, as evidenced by the couple of douchebags with pre-existing chips on their shoulders attempting to use that as a rallying point.

So if you don't actually have a grudge against either one of us, I sure would appreciate it if you wouldn't use "Roger and Nigel" as a touchstone for everything that's wrong with the forum, unless you actually do want one or both of us to stop posting/go away.

Great.  But I do still think the amped-up aggression that pops up in this place is still a problem.  No, I don't think it is limited to you two at all.  It is definitely something the whole board community could work on, I think.  This stuff with Khore is a good example where many cooks are stirring the pot.

Just stop replying to the guy if he pisses you off that much.  Stop looking for a reason to go nuclear on him.  It only drags the drama out and definitely is a damper on this forum having any kind of productive conversations or discourse.  I mean, we had a couple of good conversations going and then "holy fuck what did he say?!?!?"

Can't we all just relax and ease up a bit?  

The atmosphere today has been pretty relaxed and great.

Maybe if we stop picking at the scab, it'll heal.

RWHN can't stop picking. It's what he does.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: AFK on December 21, 2011, 05:01:10 PM
No, I'm just tired of all the dogpiles, but like I said, I was wrong so let's just forget it and move on. 
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:03:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/bnc.jpg)

I am distrbed, but oddly aroused. TGRR has a GREAT ass, there.

I can't see the pic, but I do in fact have a great ass.  It is hidden from the public, however.  Hell, it's hidden from the private.  If you wish to gaze on the glory that is my posterior, you will need a weed whacker and a permit from the forestry bureau.  An environment suit is also suggested, as I am eating more vegetables these days.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:56:02 PM

I am distrbed, but oddly aroused. TGRR has a GREAT ass, there.

Is actually my favourite photograph in the history of forever. One day I plan on restoring/retouching this to megapixel quality which, because of the blurry nature of the original, will be more of an illustration project than a restoration one.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:03:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/bnc.jpg)

I am distrbed, but oddly aroused. TGRR has a GREAT ass, there.

I can't see the pic, but I do in fact have a great ass.  It is hidden from the public, however.  Hell, it's hidden from the private.  If you wish to gaze on the glory that is my posterior, you will need a weed whacker and a permit from the forestry bureau.  An environment suit is also suggested, as I am eating more vegetables these days.

:x :x :x
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 05:01:10 PM
No, I'm just tired of all the dogpiles, but like I said, I was wrong so let's just forget it and move on. 

Tired of them when you don't think you have a chance of shifting prevailing sentiment to get one going against someone you don't like, you mean. Don't think that will be soon forgotten. You have gone from someone I think is dumb and mostly ignore to a whole new category of douchebag, and I don't care how many people you think you can rally against me.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 05:34:56 PM
Aw! Thanks! :)

I try to not be ALL bad.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.

It is entirely possible that you are a Bad Person.  Take this simple test:

1.  Do you make jokes about horrible shit that decent people won't even bring up in conversation?

2.  Are you reasonably sure that you are on the wrong planet, because this one is covered in monkeys?

3.  If you could say it was accidentally, would you the whole thing?

4.  Are speed limit signs just useful suggestions?

5.  Is it occasionally acceptable to punch a motherfucker in the mouth, if circumstances warrant/allow it?

Give yourself 1 point for every "yes" answer.

Essay/Short answer section:

A sharp stick is for _______ in the ________, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for __________

If I could, I would __________ all damn day, no matter who _____________

Sunday, Monday _______, Tuesday, Wednesday, ___________  Thursday, Friday, __________ Heyyyyyyyy

Answers will be graded by myself and/or Nigel.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 21, 2011, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.

It is entirely possible that you are a Bad Person.  Take this simple test:


Answers will be graded by myself and/or Nigel.



1.  Do you make jokes about horrible shit that decent people won't even bring up in conversation?
yes.
2.  Are you reasonably sure that you are on the wrong planet, because this one is covered in monkeys?
Fuck yes.
3.  If you could say it was accidentally, would you the whole thing?
Every time.
4.  Are speed limit signs just useful suggestions?
Yes.
5.  Is it occasionally acceptable to punch a motherfucker in the mouth, if circumstances warrant/allow it?
Of course.
Give yourself 1 point for every "yes" answer.
5 points.

Essay/Short answer section:

A sharp stick is for poking people in the eye, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for lesbians with penis envy, Double Penis Fetishists, and for whacking dumb fucks, especially christian homophobes over the head with.

If I could, I would light matches all damn day, no matter who farted

Sunday, Monday Rama Lama Ding Dong, Tuesday, Wednesday, Shatter someones eardrums with a gong,  Thursday, Friday, Sing yet another gleeful murder song,  Heyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.

It is entirely possible that you are a Bad Person.  Take this simple test:


Answers will be graded by myself and/or Nigel.



1.  Do you make jokes about horrible shit that decent people won't even bring up in conversation?
yes.
2.  Are you reasonably sure that you are on the wrong planet, because this one is covered in monkeys?
Fuck yes.
3.  If you could say it was accidentally, would you the whole thing?
Every time.
4.  Are speed limit signs just useful suggestions?
Yes.
5.  Is it occasionally acceptable to punch a motherfucker in the mouth, if circumstances warrant/allow it?
Of course.
Give yourself 1 point for every "yes" answer.
5 points.

Essay/Short answer section:

A sharp stick is for poking people in the eye, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for lesbians with penis envy, Double Penis Fetishists, and for whacking dumb fucks, especially christian homophobes over the head with.

If I could, I would light matches all damn day, no matter who farted

Sunday, Monday Rama Lama Ding Dong, Tuesday, Wednesday, Shatter someones eardrums with a gong,  Thursday, Friday, Sing yet another gleeful murder song,  Heyyyyyyyy


You got the last question wrong, but that's a damn good score anyway.

You are in fact a Bad Person™.  Expect to hear all manner of condemnation by the Decent Folks Brigade™ shortly.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 21, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
You got the last question wrong, but that's a damn good score anyway.

You are in fact a Bad Person™.  Expect to hear all manner of condemnation by the Decent Folks Brigade™ shortly.

What's the correct answer?

Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.

It is entirely possible that you are a Bad Person.  Take this simple test:


Answers will be graded by myself and/or Nigel.



1.  Do you make jokes about horrible shit that decent people won't even bring up in conversation?
yes.
2.  Are you reasonably sure that you are on the wrong planet, because this one is covered in monkeys?
Fuck yes.
3.  If you could say it was accidentally, would you the whole thing?
Every time.
4.  Are speed limit signs just useful suggestions?
Yes.
5.  Is it occasionally acceptable to punch a motherfucker in the mouth, if circumstances warrant/allow it?
Of course.
Give yourself 1 point for every "yes" answer.
5 points.

Essay/Short answer section:

A sharp stick is for poking people in the eye, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for lesbians with penis envy, Double Penis Fetishists, and for whacking dumb fucks, especially christian homophobes over the head with.

If I could, I would light matches all damn day, no matter who farted

Sunday, Monday Rama Lama Ding Dong, Tuesday, Wednesday, Shatter someones eardrums with a gong,  Thursday, Friday, Sing yet another gleeful murder song,  Heyyyyyyyy


You got the last question wrong, but that's a damn good score anyway.

You are in fact a Bad Person™.  Expect to hear all manner of condemnation by the Decent Folks Brigade™ shortly.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
You got the last question wrong, but that's a damn good score anyway.

You are in fact a Bad Person™.  Expect to hear all manner of condemnation by the Decent Folks Brigade™ shortly.

What's the correct answer?



The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.

:lol:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2011, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 21, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

Do I have to do the rest of the quiz?   :D
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

Do I have to do the rest of the quiz?   :D

No, Luna, I already know you're a Bad Person™, for reasons which I will of course keep confidential as is normal with confessors.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2011, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

:lmnuendo:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 21, 2011, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

Do I have to do the rest of the quiz?   :D

No, Luna, I already know you're a Bad Person™, for reasons which I will of course keep confidential as is normal with confessors.

Yeah, that'd probably be for the best.  The world is not ready for this knowledge.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

Do I have to do the rest of the quiz?   :D

No, Luna, I already know you're a Bad Person™, for reasons which I will of course keep confidential as is normal with confessors.

Yeah, that'd probably be for the best.  The world is not ready for this knowledge.

Fuckin' A.  As your confessor, I can no longer drink beer, eat popcorn, or look at those coin operated horsie rides outside of the supermarket without horking up a bit.
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 21, 2011, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
The correct answer for all blanks in the last question was "happy days".

Oh, fuck me. Of course. I like the one where the Fonz goes heyyy.

Strap ons are useful tools for this.


Shoulda seen that one coming.  :lol:

Do I have to do the rest of the quiz?   :D

No, Luna, I already know you're a Bad Person™, for reasons which I will of course keep confidential as is normal with confessors.

Yeah, that'd probably be for the best.  The world is not ready for this knowledge.

Fuckin' A.  As your confessor, I can no longer drink beer, eat popcorn, or look at those coin operated horsie rides outside of the supermarket without horking up a bit.

Hey, your ability to visualize in horrible detail is NOT my fault.  (Despite the photographs, you DID delete those, right?)  And I STILL don't regret the horsie ride incident.  Not my fault, at all.  If they'd had a coin op phone booth like a proper place of business, nobody would have been the wiser.  (Besides, drop in a buck worth of quarters, and, WHEE!)
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Phox on December 22, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 21, 2011, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Waffle Iron on December 21, 2011, 05:26:03 PM
Now, I haven't been here nearly long enough to even pretend to know what has been going on.
But I do like Roger and Nigel. They were the top reason for me to stop lurking and actually join in on the fun.

It is entirely possible that you are a Bad Person.  Take this simple test:

1.  Do you make jokes about horrible shit that decent people won't even bring up in conversation?

2.  Are you reasonably sure that you are on the wrong planet, because this one is covered in monkeys?

3.  If you could say it was accidentally, would you the whole thing?

4.  Are speed limit signs just useful suggestions?

5.  Is it occasionally acceptable to punch a motherfucker in the mouth, if circumstances warrant/allow it?

Give yourself 1 point for every "yes" answer.

Essay/Short answer section:

A sharp stick is for _______ in the ________, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for __________

If I could, I would __________ all damn day, no matter who _____________

Sunday, Monday _______, Tuesday, Wednesday, ___________  Thursday, Friday, __________ Heyyyyyyyy

Answers will be graded by myself and/or Nigel.

1. Yes.
2. Yes
3. Yes, even if I couldn't say it was accidentally.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.

A sharp stick is for poking monkeys  in the nearest sensitive spot, especially if nobody is looking.

Strap ons are useful tools for anything.

If I could, I would burn plastic and styrofoam all damn day, no matter who breathed the fumes.

Sunday, Monday happy days, Tuesday, Wednesday, happy days Thursday, Friday, Friday, I'm in love.  Heyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Luna on December 22, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
Friday, Friday, I'm in love.  Heyyyyyyyy

I see what you did, there.   :lol:
Title: Re: Your Own Personal Fidel Castro™
Post by: Phox on December 22, 2011, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: Luna on December 22, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
Friday, Friday, I'm in love.  Heyyyyyyyy

I see what you did, there.   :lol:
Just showing the true extent of my HorriblenessTM.  :lol: